Many of them here uses email addresses which they don't open frequently. They will miss emails sent to them and also there is a possibility of change in location of the VPN. So it isn't a good idea IMHO.
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The problem with the current rating is that upon trading the account the "old" trust becomes irrelevant, as the new user has nothing to do with the old one. This can be abused by scammers who want to invest in buying such trust-positive high status accounts. Here is my proposal on how to further improve this current trust ranking, and bring it a bit closer to significance in such cases. I know that it is impossible to ban trading accounts, but how about adding -50000 to the trust, if there is clear evidence that the account has been traded, e.g., unusual IP address and device and location should trigger a mail to the original email address that the account was registered - upon no response, we may have already solid evidence (if someone is unhappy with this criteria we may discuss how to improve them). That way trading for trust could be significantly reduced.
This did not fix the problem of trust disputes. Here is a thread about Butterzone in the EXACT same situation I was, yet this thread some how is ignored by the staff and administrators. The user says he has been PMed by admins. Amazing how they take this consideration for their buddies, but for anyone else they turn it into a big public shit show of shaming and remove them from the default trust tree. I don't expect Butterzone will be untrusted any time soon in spite of him using his trust exactly the way I did.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thebutterzone-removed-from-default-trust-858730
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/thebutterzone-removed-from-default-trust-858730
Also, green is the complementary color of red.
This makes it hard for colour-blind people to tell them apart.
Some (any?) other combination would be better.
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute 
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. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
Yeah, yellow was a bad choice but I think it should be some neutral-ish colour. I don't think they should be green though, that makes them look like positive.
That would work very well.
Also, green is the complementary color of red. So when you mix red (a negative trust) and green pigment (a positive trust), it will appear to be black (a neutral trust).
Green is hard to see unless it is bolded.
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
Yeah, yellow was a bad choice but I think it should be some neutral-ish colour. I don't think they should be green though, that makes them look like positive.
That would work very well.
Also, green is the complementary color of red. So when you mix red (a negative trust) and green pigment (a positive trust), it will appear to be black (a neutral trust).
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
Yeah, yellow was a bad choice but I think it should be some neutral-ish colour. I don't think they should be green though, that makes them look like positive.
I was originally thinking a more dark yellow than the bright yellow the forum uses
Perhaps more closer to amber
Couldn't find the right shade of yellow so will just say grey olive or goldenrod look nice
grey
gold
olive
khaki
goldenrod
brown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shades_of_yellow
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
Yeah, yellow was a bad choice but I think it should be some neutral-ish colour. I don't think they should be green though, that makes them look like positive.
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Yeah, positives should be green imo. I don't like the current bold/black. Either black or blue or something for neutral would be good as well.
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
Yeah, yellow was a bad choice but I think it should be some neutral-ish colour. I don't think they should be green though, that makes them look like positive.
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I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
Yeah, yellow was a bad choice but I think it should be some neutral-ish colour. I don't think they should be green though, that makes them look like positive.
Good move, but you also need to reset the whole trust ratings. I see a lot of green accounts, and digging deeper it shows that they sent first or used an escrow.
Look at cooldgamer's sent feedbacks. He is on the default trust list so all those he trusts show up as trustworthy, and he didn't take any risk with them.
Look at cooldgamer's sent feedbacks. He is on the default trust list so all those he trusts show up as trustworthy, and he didn't take any risk with them.
People are free to leave those feedbacks and there's not necessarily anything wrong with it, but you can choose to disregard those feedbacks if you wish. The feedback system is there as a guide and for you to make your own mind up. Having lots of green trust doesn't = they can be trusted. I see lots of people with green trust but once you read it and see it's for several $5's worth of PayPal or whatever I know that feedback is worth very little regardless of whether it is from someone trusted or not. That feedback essentially means they can be trusted with $5 worth of Paypal (or maybe not anything if the chargeback period hasn't ended) or maybe it's worth nothing at all and even the opposite if you suspect he's just trying to cheaply build up feedback/trust.
Good move, but you also need to reset the whole trust ratings. I see a lot of green accounts, and digging deeper it shows that they sent first or used an escrow.
Look at cooldgamer's sent feedbacks. He is on the default trust list so all those he trusts show up as trustworthy, and he didn't take any risk with them.
Look at cooldgamer's sent feedbacks. He is on the default trust list so all those he trusts show up as trustworthy, and he didn't take any risk with them.
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
. Yellow text will be very hard to read. What about using blue for positive ratings and black for neutral ones?
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I think the neutrals should be a yellow colour or something and show up in the trusted section if they're from users on the default trust. Just saw one vod left and thought he'd left a positive and been removed from default trust for a minute .
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can we have default list updated too?
If a user uses escrow and the escrow goes well, then you rate the user for 0 risked BTC and the escrow agent for x risked BTC, both positively...
Right now escrows are leaving positive trust feedbacks for people just for using their services. So that's probably a great idea.
People can't just get positive feedback because they have done a smooth deal through an escrow, IMO.
If I were an escrow agent, I probably wouldn't ever leave positive trust, only a negative on the scammer's side (the thing I'm escrowing does not meet the terms of contract) - or a neutral/suspect (one side I suspect to be a scammer, but the escrow is completed with merely suspicious behavior over the time elapsed, or suspiciously fails prematurely, like during the pre-delivery phase).
I was recently an escrow, and one of the parties PMed me asking for positive trust. My response was to deny positive trust because I didn't need to trust them to do my escrow.
If a user uses escrow and the escrow goes well, then you rate the user for 0 risked BTC and the escrow agent for x risked BTC, both positively...
Right now escrows are leaving positive trust feedbacks for people just for using their services. So that's probably a great idea.
People can't just get positive feedback because they have done a smooth deal through an escrow, IMO.
If I were an escrow agent, I probably wouldn't ever leave positive trust, only a negative on the scammer's side (the thing I'm escrowing does not meet the terms of contract) - or a neutral/suspect (one side I suspect to be a scammer, but the escrow is completed with merely suspicious behavior over the time elapsed, or suspiciously fails prematurely, like during the pre-delivery phase).
If a user uses escrow and the escrow goes well, then you rate the user for 0 risked BTC and the escrow for risked BTC, positively...
Right now escrows are leaving positive trust feedbacks for people just for using their services. So that's probably a great idea.
People can't just get positive feedback because they have done a smooth deal through an escrow, IMO.
If a user uses escrow and the escrow goes well, then you rate the user for 0 risked BTC and the escrow agent for x risked BTC, both positively...
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