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Topic: Trust is Broken - page 2. (Read 363 times)

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
February 13, 2018, 11:20:21 PM
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I don't have a dog in this fight. While I have always seen both of these users bumping heads with many around the forum, for standing up for what they believe in respectively, it is not surprising that they've had a run in with one another at some point. If I had to guess, BADecker probably is unaffected by DT ratings; they only spend their time (as far as I can tell) in the off-topic and Politics section (off-topic 2).

I don't think their ratings are affecting their ability to operate around the forum as they normally would. I would agree that rating someone based on their personal beliefs isn't appropriate, but everything has it's limitations and someone's belief very easily could begin to infringe upon the experiences of others in a way that would be communally agreed upon as malicious. Not saying this is the case, though it could be reasonable for Vod to see it this way, just giving some criteria for where that reasoning has its limitations.

If it were the case that DTs rating stopped this user from sharing their opinion, or using the forum in a meaningful/productive way then this would be troublesome to sanction a particular viewpoint or set of ideas that are irrelevant to Bitcoin (according to most). They're still freely doing as they do, without any consequence from what I can tell. What exactly is broken about this?

If you feel you cannot trust somebody because of what you perceive to be cognitive dissonance, refusal of logic or contemptible thinking then you should be able to express that in their trust ratings without recourse. It would be imperative for anybody making any decisions based upon BADecker's trust to investigate the context and claims being made, rather than the plain number that is being presented. If I'm incorrect about any of this I'm open to change my mind and negotiation, this is just how I'm seeing things at first glance.

If trust is based on dislike of strong opinions by people WITHIN the default trust list, then the system should be removed altogether.

Trust is based on subjective opinions, everyone is going to have their criteria and it is bound to contradict another members principals or criteria at some point. This does not make it useless or merit its removal, it simply means it is not an objective system and should be applied as such.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1022
Anarchy is not chaos.
February 13, 2018, 10:33:30 PM
#1
While I never had much faith in it, I've been looking through various people's trust ratings over the last couple of weeks.

The Merit system, I don't think will help much, but I don't see where it does harm. Trust is another animal.

I will point out an egregious example. It's in no way unique, but it is egregious. User BADecker has negative trust for having strong Christian opinions. Trust is supposed to be about reliability.

Before anyone jumps me for being biased towards him, I personally greatly dislike BADecker. He is an ignorant, bombastic, bigoted son of a bitch. He is the prototypical example of precisely why I personally hate Christianity and am ashamed to have ever been a Christian.

This does NOT merit negative trust. If trust is based on dislike of strong opinions by people WITHIN the default trust list, then the system should be removed altogether.

As I said, this was not the only example I found, nor was it even unique. Just one I chose because the aforementioned user and I have a history. He's made me angry on multiple occasions, but I never felt any need to impugn his trust simply because we disagree.

Shame on you, Vod!
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