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Quote from: Lauda on May 31, 2015, 04:22:45 PM

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:50:27 PM

Well, 2 guys for me, of which neither understands the trust system and are actively abusing it themselves. Its a lot quieter now the guy with 10 accounts got banned.

Are you by any chance referring to QS and Vod or are you talking about others that you won't name? I actually read the accusations against you just today. It was a fun story to read.

Haha no, Pekatete (Phillip Katete) and Bicknellski (Darin Bicknell). They're the only ones who seem to be in love with me.

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#Free market

Quote from: Lauda on May 31, 2015, 04:22:45 PM

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:50:27 PM

Well, 2 guys for me, of which neither understands the trust system and are actively abusing it themselves. Its a lot quieter now the guy with 10 accounts got banned.

Are you by any chance referring to QS and Vod or are you talking about others that you won't name?
I actually read the accusations against you just today. It was a fun story to read.

Quote from: redsn0w on May 31, 2015, 04:00:13 PM

No he added the neutral trust, it is not related with any list. The 3 tiers are negative, positive and neutral trust or feedback (that you can leave to any user).

PS: Or maybe I didn't understand your question.

I understand that, however I was asking if trust depth 3 has any influence now? I somehow misunderstood (?) it as if depth 3 had influence now (making everyone else depth 4).

It has an influence only if you change your (visualization) trust depth from 2 to 3, if you stay or better choose 2 you will not be "affected" by those users in the level 3 of depth.

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Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:50:27 PM

Well, 2 guys for me, of which neither understands the trust system and are actively abusing it themselves. Its a lot quieter now the guy with 10 accounts got banned.

Are you by any chance referring to QS and Vod or are you talking about others that you won't name?
I actually read the accusations against you just today. It was a fun story to read.

Quote from: redsn0w on May 31, 2015, 04:00:13 PM

No he added the neutral trust, it is not related with any list. The 3 tiers are negative, positive and neutral trust or feedback (that you can leave to any user).

PS: Or maybe I didn't understand your question.

I understand that, however I was asking if trust depth 3 has any influence now? I somehow misunderstood (?) it as if depth 3 had influence now (making everyone else depth 4).

Update: Since this is reorganizing I'm curious to why El Cabron is still part of the default trust list? I see him under DeaDTerra and tysat.

redsn0w

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#Free market

Quote from: Lauda on May 31, 2015, 03:41:15 PM

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What's this about, I'm confused? Theymos changes the trust list to 3 tiers?

No he added the neutral trust, it is not related with any list. The 3 tiers are negative, positive and neutral trust or feedback (that you can leave to any user).

PS: Or maybe I didn't understand your question.

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Quote from: Lauda on May 31, 2015, 03:41:15 PM

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:20:27 PM

Then we'd be back where we started Tongue

I'm pretty sure that a huge group of members (mostly scammers) would be satisfied if Vod, QS and you were left out of d.trust. Cheesy

Well, 2 guys for me, of which neither understands the trust system and are actively abusing it themselves. Its a lot quieter now the guy with 10 accounts got banned.

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Quote from: notserp on May 31, 2015, 03:42:16 PM

so does anyone know haploid? and if what kos said about him was true?

Yes. He was busy even when he was active but he suddenly went dark.
What was said about him?

[/quote]so does anyone know haploid? and if what BitcoinDistributor said about him was true?

said he died in a car crash

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Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:20:27 PM

Then we'd be back where we started Tongue

I'm pretty sure that a huge group of members (mostly scammers) would be satisfied if Vod, QS and you were left out of d.trust. Cheesy

Quote from: shorena on May 31, 2015, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 03:09:38 PM

3 tier means, Positive, Neutral and Negative.

If anyone have doubt they can leave neutral trust and when they are sure they can leave negative trust.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

What's this about, I'm confused? Theymos changes the trust list to 3 tiers?

Quote from: notserp on May 31, 2015, 03:42:16 PM

so does anyone know haploid? and if what kos said about him was true?

Yes. He was busy even when he was active but he suddenly went dark.
What was said about him?

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#Free market

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:20:27 PM

Quote from: Lauda on May 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM

Quote from: Tomatocage on May 31, 2015, 01:38:42 PM

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 01:25:23 PM

Not sure this worked as intended.

Depth 0 is DefaultTrust
Depth 1 is Tomatocage
Depth 2 is Tomatocage1
So any trust ratings Tomatocage1 does doesn't really do anything.

I had a feeling I wasn't understanding it right. I have no plans of using Tomatocage1 for anything other than adding people to my Trust list at Depth 2. Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but as I think it works, Depth 2 ratings hit a little softer than Depth 1. You'd think I would have a clearer understanding how the Trust system works, being in the actual DefaultTrust group and all Embarrassed

If you really want to use Tomatocage1 for trust only you'd have to get him on Depth 1 as well.
They're correct. Being on depth 3 has no affiliation with the default trust as well. If you put for instance Vod in Depth 3 his ratings will be invalidated.
You could try asking BadBear to add your second account there though.

Then we'd be back where we started Tongue

Exactly

, now he used tomatocage1 and added to his trust list those users:

Tomatocage1
Gavin Andresen
haploid23
the joint
Vod
John (John K.)
~~El Cabron~~
DiamondCardz
dogie
DefaultTrust
~~shdvb~~
Quickseller
~~gate11~~

They are still in the default trust list but visible only if someone will put the Trust depth : 3 (and trust DefaultTrust).

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Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 03:09:38 PM

Quote from: shorena on May 31, 2015, 03:07:11 PM

Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:08:57 PM

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QS is good on scam busting but he need to understand the responsibility of default trust. If he has doubt of even 1% he must give neutral trust not Negative trust. That is why Theymos changed trust system to 3tier but mostly DT user don't use Neutral trust they just like to mark red account to show their power.

Is this correct? Can anyone confirm this with a quote?

If thats the case, tomatocages tiering is indeed working.

3 tier means, Positive, Neutral and Negative.

If anyone have doubt they can leave neutral trust and when they are sure they can leave negative trust.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

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Quote from: Lauda on May 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM

Quote from: Tomatocage on May 31, 2015, 01:38:42 PM

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 01:25:23 PM

Not sure this worked as intended.

Depth 0 is DefaultTrust
Depth 1 is Tomatocage
Depth 2 is Tomatocage1
So any trust ratings Tomatocage1 does doesn't really do anything.

I had a feeling I wasn't understanding it right. I have no plans of using Tomatocage1 for anything other than adding people to my Trust list at Depth 2. Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but as I think it works, Depth 2 ratings hit a little softer than Depth 1. You'd think I would have a clearer understanding how the Trust system works, being in the actual DefaultTrust group and all Embarrassed

If you really want to use Tomatocage1 for trust only you'd have to get him on Depth 1 as well.
They're correct. Being on depth 3 has no affiliation with the default trust as well. If you put for instance Vod in Depth 3 his ratings will be invalidated.
You could try asking BadBear to add your second account there though.

Then we'd be back where we started Tongue

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Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 03:08:39 PM

Quote from: erikalui on May 31, 2015, 03:05:51 PM

Hope that the members added in DF1

No one was added to DF1, its a mistake.

I meant the first tier of the OP (I guess it is the list bearing users who are added by the OP), Tier 1. I edited my post as well.

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Quote from: Tomatocage on May 31, 2015, 01:38:42 PM

Quote from: dogie on May 31, 2015, 01:25:23 PM

Not sure this worked as intended.

Depth 0 is DefaultTrust
Depth 1 is Tomatocage
Depth 2 is Tomatocage1
So any trust ratings Tomatocage1 does doesn't really do anything.

I had a feeling I wasn't understanding it right. I have no plans of using Tomatocage1 for anything other than adding people to my Trust list at Depth 2. Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but as I think it works, Depth 2 ratings hit a little softer than Depth 1. You'd think I would have a clearer understanding how the Trust system works, being in the actual DefaultTrust group and all Embarrassed

If you really want to use Tomatocage1 for trust only you'd have to get him on Depth 1 as well.
They're correct. Being on depth 3 has no affiliation with the default trust as well. If you put for instance Vod in Depth 3 his ratings will be invalidated.
You could try asking BadBear to add your second account there though.

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Quote from: shorena on May 31, 2015, 03:07:11 PM

Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:08:57 PM

-snip-
QS is good on scam busting but he need to understand the responsibility of default trust. If he has doubt of even 1% he must give neutral trust not Negative trust. That is why Theymos changed trust system to 3tier but mostly DT user don't use Neutral trust they just like to mark red account to show their power.

Is this correct? Can anyone confirm this with a quote?

If thats the case, tomatocages tiering is indeed working.

3 tier means, Positive, Neutral and Negative.

If anyone have doubt they can leave neutral trust and when they are sure they can leave negative trust.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 31, 2015, 03:05:51 PM

Hope that the members added in DF1

No one was added to DF1, its a mistake.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:08:57 PM

-snip-
QS is good on scam busting but he need to understand the responsibility of default trust. If he has doubt of even 1% he must give neutral trust not Negative trust. That is why Theymos changed trust system to 3tier but mostly DT user don't use Neutral trust they just like to mark red account to show their power.

Is this correct? Can anyone confirm this with a quote?

If thats the case, tomatocages tiering is indeed working.

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Hope that the members added in Tier1 leave accurate ratings and help to track scammers to protect the community. I feel that it's a responsibility of a DF member to use their feedback power wisely so that nobody tries to abuse the ratings. I don't know most of the members on Tier 1 but I hope OP does monitor them to see if their ratings are accurate or not.

Being on this DF list is merely an obsession and it shouldn't matter if one exists or not on the list as their ratings would matter for those who trust them in any case. Newbies anyways should be wise enough before making any deals without escrows and not blindly trust anyone considering their rank/trust.

BTW, shdvb seems like a trusted member as I have seen his thread in the Currency Exchange section and he has done a lot of trades. Why is he excluded?

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Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:35:28 PM

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Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:06:30 PM

...Lol newbie saying this or I say shill of some account who don't want to disclose his main account.

Mostly people know me here. And all know I am trader here and mostly focus on trading.

Btw I just gave example of tspacepilot.

Typical. Another thread slanderin Quickseller. And when uninvolved buystanders like myself come to his defence, were accused of god knows what without any proof. I see whats happening here, youre not fooling any one.

Lol I am not fooling anyone that is why I am posting with my main account. You are fooling other by making new account and posting.

Most probably you are alt of QuickSeller that is why you are doing this. So later you will sell this account. So it will serve both defending QS and making post so it will move to upward level.

Im not posting from my main account because first BadBear takesQuickseller of his list, Tomatocage adds him, and then right away has to go and take him off for no reason. Coincidence? Sure. I dont want to get pushed out of the way and sweapt aside like Quickseller, but I cant just stand by and watch him get slandered and railroaded while his fairweather friends like Redsn0w turn on him.

someone is tired? I have only explained (partially) how the trust system works ... nothing else, because I do not have anything against Quickseller. I think you can post from your main account, because if you are an honest person an you've never abused the trust system then you will not be removed from some depth 1 users's list (I am sure of this thing).

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Mmmh mhmhh mmmm.

Or the newbie account could be someone who has something against QS. I mean, who would be stupid enough to defend themselves under an alt in such an obvious way? It's more likely that someone who hates QS is doing that. Banning that account would be more than appropriate here, either way.

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Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:06:30 PM

...Lol newbie saying this or I say shill of some account who don't want to disclose his main account.

Mostly people know me here. And all know I am trader here and mostly focus on trading.

Btw I just gave example of tspacepilot.

Typical. Another thread slanderin Quickseller. And when uninvolved buystanders like myself come to his defence, were accused of god knows what without any proof. I see whats happening here, youre not fooling any one.

Really interesting, why a newbie registered 19 May should defend Quckseller? This doesn't make any sense... but good to know.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: deadley on May 31, 2015, 02:06:30 PM

...Lol newbie saying this or I say shill of some account who don't want to disclose his main account.

Mostly people know me here. And all know I am trader here and mostly focus on trading.

Btw I just gave example of tspacepilot.

Typical. Another thread slanderin Quickseller. And when uninvolved buystanders like myself come to his defence, were accused of god knows what without any proof. I see whats happening here, youre not fooling any one.

Lol I am not fooling anyone that is why I am posting with my main account. You are fooling other by making new account and posting.

Most probably you are alt of QuickSeller that is why you are doing this. So later you will sell this account. So it will serve both defending QS and making post so it will move to upward level.

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