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TECSHARE

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Quote from: nutildah on February 17, 2020, 12:25:51 AM

To extend the metaphor, I think you quite enjoy rocking the boat for no reason other than the thrill of sitting in a wobbly boat. But then when the boat tips over and you get drenched, you open a thread about how it wasn't your fault, and everybody needs to change except you.

You will never get Vod, TMAN or Lauda removed from DT because everyone can see your own behavior isn't conducive to your end goals -- so why should others pitch in and lend a hand? I have a feeling pretty soon this section will be nothing other than your threads complaining about how everything is unfair.

I don't need to get TMAN removed from the default trust, he removed his abusive negative rating. Is Lauda unblacklisted from the default trust now with Theymos's recent removal of their exclusion? I remember having a part in that blacklisting. I am sure the ratings left for me by Lauda in no way were retaliation for raising awareness of their abusive behavior were they? Vod will get himself removed from the default trust list because he has no control over himself.

Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 11:35:04 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 08:52:35 PM

This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

I just read Tman's negative trust comment to my partner who knows fuckall about BTC, much less the politics of this forum. The first thing he asked after I read the 1st few words was, "Was he drunk?" My partner qualifies as a totally clueless noob and wouldn't give any credence to this. However, if you want to believe that this nonsense is going to severely impact your bottom line, when your 40+ positive trust comments seem to more than counteract for this nuisance, then I guess your perception is your reality.
You're like a woman who bitches about receiving a diamond ring with a 1 carat stone that is E color and VVS clarity. I guess it could be bigger, whiter and more clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sLQHWPa0

I believe it because I have personally experienced it. Users have literally told me so in the past. You have fun telling me what my life experience is though while you have none of the same.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 08:52:35 PM

Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 06:58:03 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 06:22:59 PM

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2r59-Xmge4

It is easy to tell everyone else not to rock the boat while you sit on shore sipping on a piña colada. None of this has any effect on your ability to use the forum. This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

To extend the metaphor, I think you quite enjoy rocking the boat for no reason other than the thrill of sitting in a wobbly boat. But then when the boat tips over and you get drenched, you open a thread about how it wasn't your fault, and everybody needs to change except you.

You will never get Vod, TMAN or Lauda removed from DT because everyone can see your own behavior isn't conducive to your end goals -- so why should others pitch in and lend a hand? I have a feeling pretty soon this section will be nothing other than your threads complaining about how everything is unfair.

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Just a word

I was a trading noob once and wud heavily trust any red digit.
Can't speak for others.

I might hv laughed at a few Red Trusts; but wudn't hv traded with the person who got it.

EDIT: Infact, if I wud hv seen the non-red neutral trust of any DT1 decrying an individual; like the one Lauda put on my; I wudn't hv traded even then.

bones261

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 08:52:35 PM

This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

I just read Tman's negative trust comment to my partner who knows fuckall about BTC, much less the politics of this forum. The first thing he asked after I read the 1st few words was, "Was he drunk?" My partner qualifies as a totally clueless noob and wouldn't give any credence to this. However, if you want to believe that this nonsense is going to severely impact your bottom line, when your 40+ positive trust comments seem to more than counteract for this nuisance, then I guess your perception is your reality.
You're like a woman who bitches about receiving a diamond ring with a 1 carat stone that is E color and VVS clarity. I guess it could be bigger, whiter and more clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my5sLQHWPa0

TECSHARE

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Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 06:58:03 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 06:22:59 PM

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2r59-Xmge4

It is easy to tell everyone else not to rock the boat while you sit on shore sipping on a piña colada. None of this has any effect on your ability to use the forum. This does have an effect on my ability to use the forum.

It is always the same refrain from disinterested 3rd parties. Stop complaining at no cost to myself, because I don't like conflict. Lets not dwell on the cause of the conflict, the damages, or the solutions. What is most important is I don't have to think too hard about it and read critical words.

bones261

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 06:22:59 PM

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2r59-Xmge4

TECSHARE

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Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 05:58:53 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 05:45:29 PM

Cute. We aren't just talking about speech. We are talking about what is effectively a penalty under a system of criminal justice here on the forum. If you are such a advocate of free speech, then you would be arguing for me, and against TMAN's abuse, for the simple act of me exercising my right to free speech. Of course why use logic, when you can simply throw that out the window and project your preferred bias onto everyone else and make excuses to serve those biases?

Exactly what actions are you recommending against TMAN? You've already done what you can do by excluding him from your trust list long ago and the fact that he is not currently on my include list is all that I can effectively do about it, since I am not on DT1. Quite frankly, Tman's comment against you is a reflection on his own character more than your's, anyway.

You could stop making excuses for him, and join me in advocating for his removal from the default trust.

bones261

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 05:45:29 PM

Cute. We aren't just talking about speech. We are talking about what is effectively a penalty under a system of criminal justice here on the forum. If you are such a advocate of free speech, then you would be arguing for me, and against TMAN's abuse, for the simple act of me exercising my right to free speech. Of course why use logic, when you can simply throw that out the window and project your preferred bias onto everyone else and make excuses to serve those biases?

Exactly what actions are you recommending against TMAN? You've already done what you can do by excluding him from your trust list long ago and the fact that he is not currently on my include list is all that I can effectively do about it, since I am not on DT1. Quite frankly, Tman's comment against you is a reflection on his own character more than your's, anyway.

TECSHARE

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Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 05:40:22 PM

The same reason Mr Flint got away with printing absolute filth against Reverend Falwell.

Cute. We aren't just talking about speech. We are talking about what is effectively a penalty under a system of criminal justice here on the forum. If you are such a advocate of free speech, then you would be arguing for me, and against TMAN's abuse, for the simple act of me exercising my right to free speech. Of course why use logic, when you can simply throw that out the window and project your preferred bias onto everyone else and make excuses to serve those biases?

bones261

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 05:14:42 PM

Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 05:08:05 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 02:02:32 PM

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

I concede that Vod's and Lauda's negative comments may give a noob some pause. However, the only pause that I can see a noob having after reading Tman's comment is the time it takes to compose themselves after RFLAO.

Great. Remind me again please what excuses this behavior while others are punished harshly for such activity?

The same reason Mr Flint got away with printing absolute filth against Reverend Falwell.

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Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 05:08:05 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 02:02:32 PM

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

I concede that Vod's and Lauda's negative comments may give a noob some pause. However, the only pause that I can see a noob having after reading Tman's comment is the time it takes to compose themselves after RFLAO.

Great. Remind me again please what excuses this behavior while others are punished harshly for such activity?

bones261

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 02:02:32 PM

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

I concede that Vod's and Lauda's negative comments may give a noob some pause. However, the only pause that I can see a noob having after reading Tman's comment is the time it takes to compose themselves after RFLAO.

TECSHARE

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Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 01:27:37 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 12:38:50 PM

Let me break it down for you real simple like.

The trust system (supposedly) is to help noobs prevent being scammed. As a result noobs rely upon it heavily. Negative rating people thus frightens away newer users from trading with people because they don't have the ability to distinguish between drunk idiots abusing it, and legitimate complaints backed by evidence.

What noob would actually read Tman's negative comment for you and not take it with a grain of salt? Many noobs may be quite naive, however I doubt that few would not trade with you because of it. I could be wrong...

You don't have much if any experience trading here do you? The amount of fraud here makes people quite paranoid and fearful of losing their money. Some people are quite easily spooked, and it doesn't take much to do it. The thought process behind purchasing something is very much an impulsive process. That 2 seconds they take to question that rating is enough to simply end the impulse for a customer, and thus has a direct impact on my ability to trade here. I have seen it before in the past with Vod's abusive negative ratings. They don't know enough to know it should be disregarded, which is exactly my point.

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Quote from: bones261 on February 16, 2020, 01:27:37 PM

What noob would actually read Tman's negative comment for you and not take it with a grain of salt? Many noobs may be quite naive, however I doubt that few would not trade with you because of it. I could be wrong...

so you're just giving him a free pass to red tag people based on utter horseshit? why is that the norm around here? because he kisses the right asses and (unjustifiably) red tags the right people?

just to be clear, TMAN is on DT1 and everyone around here is fine with him dishing out negative trust for "being a wanknozzle" and "having a micropenis", and of course for good measure "fuck you, your mum, your dad and smell your pillow as I just wiped my shitty dick after taking it out your dads arse".

this is the purpose of the default trust system? to make sure noobs see these incredibly important "warnings about scammers"?

which is it? is the default trust system to protect noobs from scammers or to perpetuate your unbelievably pathetic little flame wars?

lauda, will you red tag TMAN for "lying" and "dishonesty" since he didn't really fuck TECSHARE's father in the ass? i didn't think so. you only tag people for "lying" when it suits you.

this shit is such an embarrassment to the forum.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 16, 2020, 12:38:50 PM

Let me break it down for you real simple like.

The trust system (supposedly) is to help noobs prevent being scammed. As a result noobs rely upon it heavily. Negative rating people thus frightens away newer users from trading with people because they don't have the ability to distinguish between drunk idiots abusing it, and legitimate complaints backed by evidence.

What noob would actually read Tman's negative comment for you and not take it with a grain of salt? Many noobs may be quite naive, however I doubt that few would not trade with you because of it. I could be wrong...

TECSHARE

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Dear Sir,

Is this an endeavour to stifle mine own free speach? Most speach except that given by physics and other science al naturale profesorial types is indeed of subjective content, and even theresuch speach is a subjective rendition of true objectivity, which rarely exists in the form of speach atall.

My official subjective opine on t'mans trust abuse be that nobody are perfect and that folks be nonplused over the matter as a byproduct of self-induced amnesia when it comes to recollecting thine forum possesses very few iron-cast rules and prohibitions.

Trust ratings should be a looose guide and not an absolute arbiter for defacto-ing the trust-worthiness of each indevidual. If peopel worshippe trust scores as some sort of sacered, divine provenance instead of reading the con-tents of the rateings therein, well my good fellow they likely aren't engageing in traid to begin with.

Let me break it down for you real simple like.

The trust system (supposedly) is to help noobs prevent being scammed. As a result noobs rely upon it heavily. Negative rating people thus frightens away newer users from trading with people because they don't have the ability to distinguish between drunk idiots abusing it, and legitimate complaints backed by evidence.

Seeing as a large percentage of my trade base is new users, because I maintain high levels of positive trust, and I sell several items in the lower price range, I make an ideal introduction to trade for new users here on the forum. That is of course until people shit up my trust page with abusive unsubstantiated ratings. You can opine about how it doesn't matter to you all day, but not everyone uses the forum the same way. The vast majority of the people saying it doesn't matter don't even trade here, so it is no skin off of their back if it causes others problems.

truth or dare

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Quote from: truth or dare on February 15, 2020, 03:25:58 PM

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 15, 2020, 05:19:21 AM

Yeah, that continues to be another battle that takes place around TMAN Roll Eyes

After a debate about how to talk, now a discussion about trust, it seems that the forum has too much to conflict with others Roll Eyes

Quote from: Vod on February 14, 2020, 07:48:10 PM

I wonder how long it will take for the OP to realize what he is doing to himself... if he even cares. :/
#peace2020

Let's act like Vod Grin

Nice peace for everyone Grin

Quote from: truth or dare on February 14, 2020, 10:55:34 PM

This TMAN character is clearly an idiotic child, that is spoiling 8 to 9 years hard work and spotless trading from a senior member here. The most concerning part is, that although a few will voice disaproval, they will not actually dare take the appropriate steps to exclude this juvenile fool. They will not counter his red tags either. Which is useful long term for those that understand tagging must be abolished.

I would think this would be an insult to him. After all, who are you? Recently, I saw your posts, complaining about the trust system on this forum, I believe this is not your official account, create new accounts and raise complaints about how the trust system works, do you think it's right?

Peaceeeee Wink

If you had the capability to understand the insoluble problems the tagging system has, then you would not need to ask that question.

Have another read of the posts that you have failed to comprehend.

This is my official account.

The taging system used to work well but it got softened and confused a bit, like CryptoHunter after an electroshock therapy session (EST). now nobody's really sure what's going on. Irregardful, it should remain to profide at least some type of warning that a user is known to act like a fuckhead and may not be trust-worthy..

This is my official account too..

Hey,

That all sounds totally subjective, therefore wide open to abuse and manipulation which can destroy free speech, deter members from speaking up or presenting evidence of wrong doing by DT members. Therefore it's dangerous, and destructive, it can be used as a tool to prevent honest members creating an open and optimal environment to discuss, debate and evaluate their ideas and opinions together.

Welcome to bitcoin talk. You and suchmoon are going to have a lot in common I think.

You forgot to give your official subjective opinion on tmans trust abuse?

I believe it is clear abuse of the intended purpose of the trust system. That's subjective because there is no consensus to the true purpose of the tagging system. I know that lemons are certainly dangerous. That's a free tip to a fellow noob.

If you wanna hang in the beginner's section some time then hit me up bro.

truth or dare

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 15, 2020, 05:19:21 AM

Yeah, that continues to be another battle that takes place around TMAN Roll Eyes

After a debate about how to talk, now a discussion about trust, it seems that the forum has too much to conflict with others Roll Eyes

Quote from: Vod on February 14, 2020, 07:48:10 PM

I wonder how long it will take for the OP to realize what he is doing to himself... if he even cares. :/
#peace2020

Let's act like Vod Grin

Nice peace for everyone Grin

Quote from: truth or dare on February 14, 2020, 10:55:34 PM

This TMAN character is clearly an idiotic child, that is spoiling 8 to 9 years hard work and spotless trading from a senior member here. The most concerning part is, that although a few will voice disaproval, they will not actually dare take the appropriate steps to exclude this juvenile fool. They will not counter his red tags either. Which is useful long term for those that understand tagging must be abolished.

I would think this would be an insult to him. After all, who are you? Recently, I saw your posts, complaining about the trust system on this forum, I believe this is not your official account, create new accounts and raise complaints about how the trust system works, do you think it's right?

Peaceeeee Wink

If you had the capability to understand the insoluble problems the tagging system has, then you would not need to ask that question.

Have another read of the posts that you have failed to comprehend.

This is my official account.

TECSHARE

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Quote from: TMAN on February 15, 2020, 07:01:05 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 15, 2020, 06:46:12 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hey TS.. how’s your dads arse hole feeling? What about yours?

Fucking dickhead wanknozz

You had warnings, you refused to a knowledge the warnings, now you are bitching?

You are a bully without any ammo you shitnugget

You don't get to use the trust system to threaten people into silence. That is not what it is for.

~TMAN

Your bullying ways need to stop, I told you what I was going to do yet you continued. I may be a 14 year old girl but I have bigger balls than you.

You are a cyber rapist

I am sure this is all very entertaining to you. As long as people like TMAN, Vod, Lauda have the ability to abuse the trust system at will and without reprecussion, it will remain a joke. Here is a list of people responsible for this failure of the forum systems through their own inaction:

Vod
monkeynuts
vizique
TheNewAnon135246
hybridsole
Avirunes
buckrogers
owlcatz
nutildah
dazedfool
LFC_Bitcoin
ezeminer
The Pharmacist
Jet Cash
bL4nkcode
Gunthar
finaleshot2016
xtraelv
crwth
krogothmanhattan
roycilik
bavicrypto
theyoungmillionaire
~~o_e_l_e_o~~
gospodin
Alex_Sr
Coolcryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
~~DireWolfM14~~
TalkStar

Shout out to Suchmoon for putting their money where their mouth is and taking action. The inaction of the rest of you is shameful, and you are responsible for the failure of the trust system.

TMAN

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 15, 2020, 06:46:12 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hey TS.. how’s your dads arse hole feeling? What about yours?

Fucking dickhead wanknozz

You had warnings, you refused to a knowledge the warnings, now you are bitching?

You are a bully without any ammo you shitnugget

You don't get to use the trust system to threaten people into silence. That is not what it is for.

~TMAN

Your bullying ways need to stop, I told you what I was going to do yet you continued. I may be a 14 year old girl but I have bigger balls than you.

You are a cyber rapist

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