Turkey coal mine disaster: Least 238 dead - page 2.

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Quote from: niothor on May 17, 2014, 05:55:03 AM

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Quote from: Dijital Para on May 14, 2014, 08:30:24 AM

Rescuers are hunting desperately for scores of Turkish coal miners still missing after an explosion caused a pit to collapse, killing at least 238.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27406195

Unfortunatley this happened yesterday in our country. And there are news about the number of death will increase.

Here we go with another tragedy taking hundreds of lives. MH370, South Korean ferry sinking, now this. And on it goes. Sad !God help them. My prayers are with the families who must bear this tragedy.

I don't want to be mean but do you know that around 3000 people die each day in car accidents ?
I don't like this things where people all over the world are talking about that tragedy , all the world is praying for them while in the mean time thousands die and nobody cares , because .... they died alone.

Well what can i say....it seams that it bothers you that some of my prayers are for those people who died in mines. Why don't you start a topic for all the people who dies everyday, so that way i will say a pray for all of them, who died single or in group like the one in mines?!

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Quote from: sana8410 on May 17, 2014, 05:48:48 AM

Quote from: Dijital Para on May 14, 2014, 08:30:24 AM

Rescuers are hunting desperately for scores of Turkish coal miners still missing after an explosion caused a pit to collapse, killing at least 238.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27406195

Unfortunatley this happened yesterday in our country. And there are news about the number of death will increase.

Here we go with another tragedy taking hundreds of lives. MH370, South Korean ferry sinking, now this. And on it goes. Sad !God help them. My prayers are with the families who must bear this tragedy.

I don't want to be mean but do you know that around 3000 people die each day in car accidents ?
I don't like this things where people all over the world are talking about that tragedy , all the world is praying for them while in the mean time thousands die and nobody cares , because .... they died alone.

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Quote from: Dijital Para on May 14, 2014, 08:30:24 AM

Rescuers are hunting desperately for scores of Turkish coal miners still missing after an explosion caused a pit to collapse, killing at least 238.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27406195

Unfortunatley this happened yesterday in our country. And there are news about the number of death will increase.

Here we go with another tragedy taking hundreds of lives. MH370, South Korean ferry sinking, now this. And on it goes. Sad !God help them. My prayers are with the families who must bear this tragedy.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AM

Quote from: Littleshop on May 16, 2014, 10:03:10 AM

I am not sure where you get that information from. US coal is doing well, year by year changes are small as a percentage and exports from the USA are growing, quadrupling since 2005.

OK... may be the coal produced in the US is more or less competitive (the post above by Ron~Popeil says otherwise). But what about the EU? 90% of the coal mines have been closed down. In certain countries such as England and France, there are virtually no active coal mines.

90% ? with all the mines still operating in Germany I doubt that figure:).

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Quote from: Littleshop on May 16, 2014, 10:03:10 AM

I am not sure where you get that information from. US coal is doing well, year by year changes are small as a percentage and exports from the USA are growing, quadrupling since 2005.

OK... may be the coal produced in the US is more or less competitive (the post above by Ron~Popeil says otherwise). But what about the EU? 90% of the coal mines have been closed down. In certain countries such as England and France, there are virtually no active coal mines.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 15, 2014, 01:07:43 PM

Quote from: practicaldreamer on May 15, 2014, 01:01:51 PM

Did you know that in the UK, when the mines were still privately owned, it was said that a mineowner was more concerned over the loss of a pit pony than of a miner. Why ? Because he would have to pay to replace the pony.

Coal miners are treated as sub-humans in almost every part of the world. May be things are a little bit better in the EU and the US, but every where else, their lives are treated as worthless. And the sad thing about the coal mines in the US / EU is that many of them are closing down, unable to compete with the cheaper imports from China and India.

I am not sure where you get that information from. US coal is doing well, year by year changes are small as a percentage and exports from the USA are growing, quadrupling since 2005.

China and India are both coal importers not exporters so they certainly are not driving US coal out of business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States

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Quote from: Ekaros on May 16, 2014, 03:47:33 AM

Nuclear kills?

Actually this is a subject debated on Turkey.

Today the mining company had a press conference about the incident. And what they were saying that they are controlled by the state employees regularly and they have all the documents. And this incident happened anyway. So one of the main reason in turkey people are against nuclear plant is they believe the state is not capable of control the safety. This is very understandable after we see what happened in Soma.

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My condolences go out to all the families that lost someone in the disaster and i hope they find survivors.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 15, 2014, 01:07:43 PM

Quote from: practicaldreamer on May 15, 2014, 01:01:51 PM

Did you know that in the UK, when the mines were still privately owned, it was said that a mineowner was more concerned over the loss of a pit pony than of a miner. Why ? Because he would have to pay to replace the pony.

Coal miners are treated as sub-humans in almost every part of the world. May be things are a little bit better in the EU and the US, but every where else, their lives are treated as worthless. And the sad thing about the coal mines in the US / EU is that many of them are closing down, unable to compete with the cheaper imports from China and India.

i live in coal country in western PA. There are so many regulations designed not for safety but to make US coal to expensive to compete in the markets. This drives production in the second and third world countries because they can produce more cheaply and pay their workers less. This inevitably leads to accidents and destroyed lives.

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on May 15, 2014, 01:01:51 PM

Did you know that in the UK, when the mines were still privately owned, it was said that a mineowner was more concerned over the loss of a pit pony than of a miner. Why ? Because he would have to pay to replace the pony.

Coal miners are treated as sub-humans in almost every part of the world. May be things are a little bit better in the EU and the US, but every where else, their lives are treated as worthless. And the sad thing about the coal mines in the US / EU is that many of them are closing down, unable to compete with the cheaper imports from China and India.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 15, 2014, 12:43:38 PM

Quote from: practicaldreamer on May 15, 2014, 11:56:01 AM

The mine has been recently privatised. Anyone here know who owns it ?

It is owned by the Soma Kömür İşletmeleri A.Ş. (Soma Mining Inc.). The company employs close to 6,000 workers, and produces more than 3,000,000 tonnes of coal every year. The current CEO is Alp Gürka.

"Alp Gürkan, the owner of the Aegean conglomerate Soma Holding, said that his company managed to reduce the cost of mining coal from $130-140 to $23.8 per ton “thanks to the operation methods of the private sector,” in an interview that was published on Sept. 30, 2012 by daily Hürriyet."

For the love of God.

Did you know that in the UK, when the mines were still privately owned, it was said that a mineowner was more concerned over the loss of a pit pony than of a miner. Why ? Because he would have to pay to replace the pony.

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Quote from: practicaldreamer on May 15, 2014, 11:56:01 AM

The mine has been recently privatised. Anyone here know who owns it ?

It is owned by the Soma Kömür İşletmeleri A.Ş. (Soma Mining Inc.). The company employs close to 6,000 workers, and produces more than 3,000,000 tonnes of coal every year. The current CEO is Alp Gürka.

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A terrible disaster and my heart goes out to the families of those miners that have lost their lives. Brave men all.

The mine has been recently privatised. Anyone here know who owns it ?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 14, 2014, 09:33:27 PM

Quote from: Dijital Para on May 14, 2014, 08:43:06 AM

Main opposition party members wanted an investigation about this specific mine before this incident. But that is declined by the ruling party.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan only cares about money. He doesn't cares about the lives of poor coal miners, who account for a significant fraction of Turkey's GDP and exports. But none of the Western media outlets will criticize him, as he is an US-ally.

So long as production is for profit employers will look for ways to cut costs, and workers will pay the price.

Erdogan is a typical neo-liberal, with everything subordinated to profit.

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Quote from: Dijital Para on May 14, 2014, 08:43:06 AM

Main opposition party members wanted an investigation about this specific mine before this incident. But that is declined by the ruling party.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan only cares about money. He doesn't cares about the lives of poor coal miners, who account for a significant fraction of Turkey's GDP and exports. But none of the Western media outlets will criticize him, as he is an US-ally.

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Wow...that's a terrible accident and I hope those other people stuck in the mine can be rescued. Notice how in all these mining accidents...it's always some greedy company cutting corners and ignoring safety in the name of profits and the poor workers getting hurt or killed.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 14, 2014, 08:38:06 AM

The death toll can climb to over 300, as many more are missing. The coal mining industry is one of the riskiest, despite the innovations in technology. But still, I was thinking that the Turkish mines were at least a little bit safer, compared to those in China, Russia and Ukraine. Seems like I was wrong. Feeling really sad. Incidents such as this one affects the poorest members of the society.

Main opposition party members wanted an investigation about this specific mine before this incident. But that is declined by the ruling party.

There is an increasing problem about worker safety in the Turkey at last years, even though we should expect the opposite with increasing technology. There are problems about controling companies and defending the basic worker rights.

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The death toll can climb to over 300, as many more are missing. The coal mining industry is one of the riskiest, despite the innovations in technology. But still, I was thinking that the Turkish mines were at least a little bit safer, compared to those in China, Russia and Ukraine. Seems like I was wrong. Feeling really sad. Incidents such as this one affects the poorest members of the society.

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Rescuers are hunting desperately for scores of Turkish coal miners still missing after an explosion caused a pit to collapse, killing at least 238.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27406195

Unfortunatley this happened yesterday in our country. And there are news about the number of death will increase.

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