Topic: Turkish Muslims now permitted to use toilet paper - page 2. (Read 1907 times)

Russian Today ....... printed can be used as toilet paper LoL

90%. The concept of toilet paper is foreigner to most of them.

Most of the Turks were not that religious two decades ago. But times are changing. Ever since Recep Tayyip Erdoğan got the power, Islamism have been creeping up there. The secular character of the Turkish state have been completely lost.

After reading your post, I've become convinced that Japenese "How To" toilets signs needs to be replicated & deployed worlwide.

Hmm. I know a couple of Turkish guys but none of them had any issue with using toilet paper. Maybe they are not that strictly religious.

Thanks for the reply (and also for the story) now I understood it is only a result (if there isn't present water, etc). Innit, I knew it was only another useless article and not 100% real., have a nice day.

This is no joke. Being a geologist is a tough job. During my studies, there were times when I had to wander through uninhabited regions all alone, walking 30 km every day in search of some crappy rock sample. Although I had a brief stint as a geologist, I believe that I made the right choice by shifting to the GIS sector 10 years ago. 

YEAH that was AMAZING when I tried it for the first time. But it doesnt beat the control the bidet gives you. But still it is  pretty cool feature (Tried it in Terminal Mall in Bangcock)

I think Japan wins when it comes to cleaning your ass, their toilets do it for you (and dry you with warm air).  Wish we had this in the states, toilet paper is nasty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan

i agree, but most of the religious fundamentalist have no access to common sense  
(not even talking about science)

Yes I am a Muslim yes I am from the deepest of the deepest place in the Muslim world and yes toilet paper is very foreign to us, Now for the other readers instead of the "EwwwEwww". Listen to this story:

One time I was in Thailand going out with a group of friends and one of them was from the Netherlands. We literally talked for ten minutes about shitting. He was telling me how an amazing experience it was for him to use the floor seating toilet. Thai people know  how it aligns the lower colon. Also he was amazed by the idea of the bidet. But also how toilet paper was still important to wipe whatever was stuck in between the cheeks and well some of us are hairy down there and needs the friction of the paper. We settled the conversation that the combination of Toilet paper, Bidet and floor seating is the cleanest best experience that will leave you feeling "clean" and refreshed.

Moral of the story? Most of us don't even know how to shit properly. We will learn when we have the balls to actually discuss shitting.

People shit differently in the this world. The way we sit, How to clean and what do we use to clean our behind. It is mazing how this did not progress and I think it is because we all kinda "ashamed" of something so natural and so basic as the "call of nature".

Now back to you my friend, redsn0w:
All this came from one thing that the prophet Mohammad said. And he said it only once. I think it is pretty obvious and whoever would think it is a restriction needs to calm down and actually listen. What he said is the following:

"When you have to go to the empty land, Use water to clean yourself. If you cannot find any, Find any leafs, if you cannot find any, Use stones to wipe". Empty land is an old polite arab way of saying -Going to answer the nature's call-

To me that means dude, clean your ass after you shit. Find the best way that would be cleaner but if you can't seek another and another, just CLEAN after you are done.

For some, and I still can't see why, they think that it means NO, use only water.. but f you can't then siiigh.... hmmm...shiiiit.... yes yes allright I guess you can use toilet paper..... I don't like it though.... but yeah you can......

If someone here think it meant that, then you sir are an EPIC idiot. Good day

(I don't think red sn0w thinks that, just saying because idiots around here would think I meant that)

Are you a muslim? So Was I correct in my thought?


I am asking this because I want to know more, and it is better to know from a muslim instead search on google. Let me know thanks. If you will say it is not a "law" in the Islam then the OP is wrong.

What is this nonesense? I have been using toilet paper since I was a kid. It is not a "restriction". It is just hygiene tips. And since when toilet paper was a better choice than a bidet (That if some idiots here still think Muslims think they should use one and prohibited from the other or a combination of both.)

"For cleaning, one should use water, three stones, or one's left hand."

How does the three stones work?

uhm - from a scientific view toilet paper is big nonsense.
the best way to clean yourself after the big buisness is water (bidet) or (baby) wipes, although the last might be problematic cause of allergies.

there are several studies about it, im just to lazy right now to google it

Turkey is widely considered as the most progressive Muslim nation in the world. If these sort of stories are coming out from there, what we can expect from countries such as Saudi Arabia and Sudan, which are considered as some of the most orthodox?

Unfortunately it does, though it's not prohibited directly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_toilet_etiquette
http://www.myreligionislam.com/detail.asp?Aid=6096

Read:

The use of toilet paper has been declared halal by Turkey's religious authority Diyanet, after centuries of forbiddance by Islamic toilet etiquette. The Turkish Directorate of Religious Affairs has issued a fatwa (Muslim religious ruling) stating that it's now acceptable to use toilet paper for personal hygiene, but only if water is nowhere to be found.

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It is a "country religion" decision, I think it doesn't exist any law in Islam that forbid you to use toilet paper (but maybe I am wrong). This is the first time that I have read a news of this type.

In addition to other religious threads.

http://rt.com/news/247857-turkey-muslims-toilet-paper/


Congratulations.

P.S. But water is better anyway.