Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season - page 71.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 27, 2022, 06:59:02 AM

Fenerbahce is the leader in the league right now. They will also be champions at the end of the season!

It seems obvious that they are the team playing the best football in the Turkish league for the time being. If there is no setback, if they continue to play the football they are playing now throughout the season, it is impossible for them not to be champions this season. They showed the ability to be a team under the direction of Jorge Jesus. Only such a disciplined coach could achieve this.
Besiktaş and Galatasaray teams have not been so talented. Last season's champion Trabzonspor, on the other hand, is not playing effective football right now. They will probably lose a lot of points later in the season.

With current form and position no doubt they could be stayed here for few more weeks most chances they can stay here until world cup break, and then we have to wait for next round how things could be for them and other competitors in Turkish League they are leading by one point from second spotted team Adana Demirspor with one match in hand and other competitors are struggling badly like Galatasaray down with poor form and Besiktas is looking for new manager as they sack Valérien Ismaël after losing nine points in last five games, and we have the biggest decline from Basaksehir which lost two matches in last three games and biggest lost was against struggling Sivasspor at home.

Now if they are able to keep this momentum then surely no one able to compete with them, and they could be leader with going to end this season as champions.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 26, 2022, 04:17:56 PM

And now he's gone. No more Valérien Ismaël. We wasted maybe two years but finally this is over. Beşiktaş need to find way better manager, especially if it's a Turkish one chances would be bigger. As you know almost all champions have Turkish manager in this league.
Şenol Güneş is the closest candidate, we may see his return tomorrow. I hope he will be more successful than his first term. This squad is quite good, but it was managed very bad. Beşiktaş is still close to first place so nothing's over yet. There will be 25 more matches in the league. There is also Turkish Cup. Beşiktaş still can get something from this season.

Şenol Güneş is one of the best coaches in Turkey. I think there is no other candidate for Beşiktaş and official contracts will be made tomorrow.
I hope we watch a good season for Beşiktaş. The players of the team are really successful and they actually play much better than many teams, but they can't get the desired results in the matches. Of course, the referees have an effect on this, but I think they will be much more successful with a new coach

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Besiktas were the last team that Şenol Güneş worked with. He managed Turkish national team for more than two years after that and he hasn't been actively managing any team for around a year. Besiktas became the champions two times in the 15/16 and 16/17 seasons in the Super League. He is remembered really good there as a result.

It really looks like he is the closest person to sign for the manager position at Besiktas again. I think that this would be a smart move for Besiktas. Because the risk level is much lower than trying a completely different manager like Valerien Ismael. Şenol Güneş knows the league and the team much better in the end. Besiktas needed this change otherwise this season was going to be wasted easily despite having a strong squad. Let's see how much they will improve in defense especially if this transfer happens.

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Fenerbahce is the leader in the league right now. They will also be champions at the end of the season!

It seems obvious that they are the team playing the best football in the Turkish league for the time being. If there is no setback, if they continue to play the football they are playing now throughout the season, it is impossible for them not to be champions this season. They showed the ability to be a team under the direction of Jorge Jesus. Only such a disciplined coach could achieve this.
Besiktaş and Galatasaray teams have not been so talented. Last season's champion Trabzonspor, on the other hand, is not playing effective football right now. They will probably lose a lot of points later in the season.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 25, 2022, 09:17:34 AM

I think Valerien Ismael's days are over. There was already speculations about next manager of Beşiktaş but now it's the only topic of discussion. I guess we will find out who will manage the team in a couple of days. Fans have no patience left at all.

And now he's gone. No more Valérien Ismaël. We wasted maybe two years but finally this is over. Beşiktaş need to find way better manager, especially if it's a Turkish one chances would be bigger. As you know almost all champions have Turkish manager in this league.
Şenol Güneş is the closest candidate, we may see his return tomorrow. I hope he will be more successful than his first term. This squad is quite good, but it was managed very bad. Beşiktaş is still close to first place so nothing's over yet. There will be 25 more matches in the league. There is also Turkish Cup. Beşiktaş still can get something from this season.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 25, 2022, 07:52:08 AM

There is a big decline in Besiktas' performance for some weeks. They won only once considering the last five match weeks.

Besiktas really seemed like they were going to win against Hatayspor. Weghorst scored already in the 32nd second of the match. Weghorst was nearly winning a penalty for his team also but he was offside by a small margin. Maybe things could have been much different in this match if he wasn't offside and they scored a penalty. Hatayspor made a shocking comeback and won 2-1. Kaan Kanak's winning goal in the 90th minute was really impressive also. Ersin couldn't even react to that shot. Besiktas are still unable to defend their opponents well and this is a big obstacle for them to reach the title this season.

Suddenly things are going wrong for Besiktas, and they are losing ground which is surely indicating that now time is running out for coach Valerien Ismael because this defeat is surely going to be big for them and their chances to be stayed at top even right now they are still fifth and have good chances to keep their chances alive but tactical mistakes and poor transfers in running matches are going the worst for them which are surely not acceptable.

Super sub Kanak who came from bench on 80th minute done amazing job for visitors and give a brilliant goal at 90th minute which give them third win in four matches, and now they are out of the relegation jail for some time.

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 25, 2022, 09:17:34 AM

A lot of mistakes combined and we got this result. Obviously tactical mistakes were the decider of the game. Beşiktaş could've played way better with this squad but something's wrong, for a long time. Substitutions were wrong, again. Muleka was one of the best performers in first half but Ismael decided to get him off. Weghorst couldn't get balls he wanted after that change. Redmond's crosses were okay but generally you can't find many good positions with only crossing game. Dele Alli performed really bad, I wonder what could be the problem. He's far away from his glorious days. Gedson should've started the game. Beşiktaş found very early goal but couldn't find second and as you already know, if Beşiktaş can't make difference to two goals they always concede a stupid goal and lose points. This is what happened, again. Important three points lost, only one win in last six games is unacceptable.

I think Valerien Ismael's days are over. There was already speculations about next manager of Beşiktaş but now it's the only topic of discussion. I guess we will find out who will manage the team in a couple of days. Fans have no patience left at all.

Delle Alli won't be part of this first eleven squad for sure as I was telling it. He probably has mental problems and can't keep up with how important can be this Turkish league for squad and fans. Beşiktaş actually doesn't exactly perform as bad as Galatasaray but defence line and goalkeeper are really not that good to become champion. Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray are better than Beşiktaş because of this mainly. They should do transfers to fix their dc/dcm positions.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on October 24, 2022, 07:42:31 AM

It's a very important match for Beşiktaş. Some opponents have lost points, and some opponents are trying to widen the point difference. 3 points must be taken from this match. Hatayspor is at the bottom of the league, second to last. They're really bad this season.
The forward will be Cenk Tosun. Weghorst is still injured and really needed rest. He pushed too hard in the last weeks, he played in every match. Ismael didn't rotate that position. Montero will play on defense when Saiss is absent. Ghezzal is injured again. Muleka returns to the starting line-up. I don't think Beşiktaş will have a problem on attack. It's very important to score the first goal early. This will broke Hatayspor's resistance.
I expect a game with plenty of goals and a Beşiktaş win. Handicap Beşiktaş victory can also be evaluated. I wish you a profitable day.

Actually Besiktas had a quick lead in the first half but unfortunately they failed to maintain that advantage in the second half, with positive results obtained by Besiktas this week, their ambition to move up to the top 3 has failed, actually Besiktas played quite well in that match but bad final completion in the end made Besiktas have to suffer their second defeat of the season, getting 3 points from a strong team like Besiktas is certainly an extraordinary thing for a team that is at a lower level like Hatayspor so with the addition of 3 points it does make them a little bit away from current relegation zone

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A lot of mistakes combined and we got this result. Obviously tactical mistakes were the decider of the game. Beşiktaş could've played way better with this squad but something's wrong, for a long time. Substitutions were wrong, again. Muleka was one of the best performers in first half but Ismael decided to get him off. Weghorst couldn't get balls he wanted after that change. Redmond's crosses were okay but generally you can't find many good positions with only crossing game. Dele Alli performed really bad, I wonder what could be the problem. He's far away from his glorious days. Gedson should've started the game. Beşiktaş found very early goal but couldn't find second and as you already know, if Beşiktaş can't make difference to two goals they always concede a stupid goal and lose points. This is what happened, again. Important three points lost, only one win in last six games is unacceptable.

I think Valerien Ismael's days are over. There was already speculations about next manager of Beşiktaş but now it's the only topic of discussion. I guess we will find out who will manage the team in a couple of days. Fans have no patience left at all.

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There is a big decline in Besiktas' performance for some weeks. They won only once considering the last five match weeks.

Besiktas really seemed like they were going to win against Hatayspor. Weghorst scored already in the 32nd second of the match. Weghorst was nearly winning a penalty for his team also but he was offside by a small margin. Maybe things could have been much different in this match if he wasn't offside and they scored a penalty. Hatayspor made a shocking comeback and won 2-1. Kaan Kanak's winning goal in the 90th minute was really impressive also. Ersin couldn't even react to that shot. Besiktas are still unable to defend their opponents well and this is a big obstacle for them to reach the title this season.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on October 24, 2022, 02:21:37 PM

I can say one thing for Galatasaray - Alanyaspor match, everything was going great until that red card. But referee has influenced Galatasaray quite negatively by wrong decisions. The referee made an impact on the match. Galatasaray lost two points because of the referee.

I totally agree with you on this. Galatasaray started the game very well and scored very good goals. However, the red card shown by the referee was not correct in my opinion, if he had shown the yellow card, the match would have progressed much differently. Galatasaray, which should have won a comfortable match, lost its power because it played with the missing player and could not win 3 points in the end. It was a sad for Cimbom fans

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Hatayspor 2 - 1 Besiktas JK

what the hell just happened? how did those Besiktas lose? I sincerely regret having bet on them, and something that made me angry, I won't bet on them anymore. once again i bet on them and lost bet and i had already told myself i would not bet on them, i don't know how the hell i went to bet on them. Anyway, this Turkish league I've only been unlucky every time I bet on a team I lose money. I'm just going to follow the games but I won't bet anything

Quote from: execijutiere on October 24, 2022, 02:41:08 PM

Hatayspor defeated Beşiktaş at home with a last minute goal.

so far I can't believe that those damn Besiktas lost, they were already winning and all the damned needed to do was strengthen themselves in defense to manage the result, but what we saw was that they conceded 1 goal and drew and to make matters worse my day they conceded a goal when the game was about to end and lost. honestly it was disappointing, very disappointing.

Quote from: Gencecikmen on October 24, 2022, 02:21:37 PM

I can say one thing for Galatasaray - Alanyaspor match, everything was going great until that red card. But referee has influenced Galatasaray quite negatively by wrong decisions. The referee made an impact on the match. Galatasaray lost two points because of the referee.

Of course the red card came to harm Galatasaray and I'd rather not be blaming the referee, but that goal they conceded in the 90+1 minute was very unlucky, I think Galatasaray was unlucky in this game, they could have won

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Hatayspor defeated Beşiktaş at home with a last minute goal. Volkan Demirel's team was a bit shocked with the goal in the first minute. But they recovered in the second half and scored in the early minutes. Hatayspor got a very important 3 points with a last minute goal.
Ankaragücü ended the match with a draw after taking the lead in the away match. Giresunspor played a dominant game from the beginning to the end of the match. It would have been sad for them if they lost.

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I can say one thing for Galatasaray - Alanyaspor match, everything was going great until that red card. But referee has influenced Galatasaray quite negatively by wrong decisions. The referee made an impact on the match. Galatasaray lost two points because of the referee.

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Today I took a deep breath and thought: I have extra money so I'm going to bet on Besiktas to win the game and I bet on them, I hope the same thing doesn't happen that happened in their last game, anyway I just bet a part of my profit something that doesn't it will hurt me if they lose in this game, has anyone else bet on Besiktas?

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 24, 2022, 11:12:38 AM

I'm losing my faith in Galatasaray for the league title this season. I started to think that Okan Buruk might not be the right manager for the team but I know I need to be patient for some time more as well.

looking at the table they are not far from first place the problem is that there are many teams that are above them and being realistic it is almost impossible for them to become champions, probably this bad performance of theirs will not change anytime soon, unless maybe if they make some changes to the team. but we have to see how they will do in the next games, I don't like to bet on them because in the past they made me lose money, that's why I don't bet on them I prefer to just follow the results of the games

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Beşiktaş's starting 11: Ersin, Rosier, Tayyip, Montero, Masuaku, Josef, Salih, Dele, N'Koudou, Muleka, Weghorst.
https://twitter.com/Besiktas/status/1584574474489208832

Hatayspor's starting 11: Erce, Kamil, Vranjes, Burak, Samuel, Onur, Aabid, Mehdi, Saba, El Kaabi, Ze Luis
https://twitter.com/Hatayspor_FK/status/1584574218431496192

Beşiktaş have not been playing a good game in the last weeks. This is a non-negotiable issue, everyone agrees; but the fact should not be overlooked, Beşiktaş have star football players who can change the fate of the game. Tonight "Weghorst, Dele Alli, Jackson Muleka or Salih Uçan" may change the outcome on the field... Unlike Beşiktaş, Hatayspor have been playing a very good game in the last few weeks. Undoubtedly, coach Volkan Demirel has a big share in this success, but they will play against a strong opponent this week and being the home team will not be enough for them to win...

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I'm really disappointed with the performance of Galatasaray which is my team.

I was really positive about beating Alanyaspor this time and finally ending the winless streak for two weeks. Their performance until getting the red card was impressive and I realized that I missed to watch Galatasaray playing this much willing to win. They were suffocating their opponent with a huge press and one of the goals came thanks to that press as you know. Icardi scored it. I still think that the first red card is disputable but anyway. Grin

I was still confident about Galatasaray to use their score advantage well but interestingly they couldn't keep it. Alanyaspor didn't have a big difficulty in getting that point.

I'm losing my faith in Galatasaray for the league title this season. I started to think that Okan Buruk might not be the right manager for the team but I know I need to be patient for some time more as well.

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Quote from: zaki12 on October 24, 2022, 10:49:39 AM

Quote from: Distraction on October 24, 2022, 07:53:07 AM

After seeing that Galatasaray - Alanyaspor match I can say one thing comfortably. Galatasaray can't win the league title this season as long as they keep up this performance level especially in defense I mean. As there is no other spot other than the 1st place for the Champions League it looks like they won't be able to join it again.

Galatasaray started this match really good actually. They were quite dominant and scored two goals later also. Everything was going great until that red card. After that the team started to be in a big trouble. They should have still been in control honestly. Because they already made their opponents accept their game. Playing with one less players shouldn't have affected them very deeply in defense especially. Above all else, they still had a 2-0 advantage but still couldn't secure a win. Emin Bayram was actually close to scoring the winning goal but he wasted a huge chance.

First I congratulate Galatasaray. Despite the pressure in the penalty area and the pressure passes in the match, they played a very good game despite being sent off. Their Alanyaspor defended well and also leveled the score. I think the referee has also influenced Galatasaray negatively by wrong decisions and preventing the score and the match.

This match was really on the agenda in Turkey. In Sasha Boey's position, I can't say exactly because the goalkeeper is ahead. However, the referee had other decisions that would affect the course of the match for the rest of the match, unfortunately. Galatasaray meanwhile, I think they didn't play very well after 10 players were left. If they had played well, they wouldn't have conceded 2 goals in the rest, am I thinking wrong? 1 point is not a sufficient result for Galatasaray.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 24, 2022, 07:53:07 AM

After seeing that Galatasaray - Alanyaspor match I can say one thing comfortably. Galatasaray can't win the league title this season as long as they keep up this performance level especially in defense I mean. As there is no other spot other than the 1st place for the Champions League it looks like they won't be able to join it again.

Galatasaray started this match really good actually. They were quite dominant and scored two goals later also. Everything was going great until that red card. After that the team started to be in a big trouble. They should have still been in control honestly. Because they already made their opponents accept their game. Playing with one less players shouldn't have affected them very deeply in defense especially. Above all else, they still had a 2-0 advantage but still couldn't secure a win. Emin Bayram was actually close to scoring the winning goal but he wasted a huge chance.

First I congratulate Galatasaray. Despite the pressure in the penalty area and the pressure passes in the match, they played a very good game despite being sent off. Their Alanyaspor defended well and also leveled the score. I think the referee has also influenced Galatasaray negatively by wrong decisions and preventing the score and the match.

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Today's matches are giresunspor-ankaragücü and hatayspor-beşiktaş. Ankaragücü lost 3-0 to Fenerbahçe last week but didn't play badly. They are doing well but I still think they can take points away from Giresun today.
Beşiktaş is the clear favorite despite being away. Besiktas will close this week with 3 points with a clear win against a bad Hatay.
This week Fenerbahçe is the leader despite having one match less.

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