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legendary
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April 10, 2024, 07:09:34 AM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


This season we have focused too much on non-football events instead of focusing on football. We only want to watch football now and we want to finish this season without any problems. I think we all need that.

I think the derby match in the 37th week of the league will decide the championship. Both teams will win all their games until then or stay in the race. Everything will be decided in the 37th week of the league. I hope the tension in that match will be low and it will be a championship match where the deserving team wins.

Looking at these two teams, in my opinion there are greater chances of Fenerbahce losing points before the game against Galatasaray. in Fenerbahce's last 4 games, they conceded goals in all of their last 4 games. in the game against trabzonspor, fenerbahce came very close to losing. in the fenerbahce game against adana, it was a game in which fenerbahce conceded 2 goals, it was not an easy game for fenerbahce and when we look at adana, we see that this season they are not strong, they have been a team that has had results mixed games, but they still caused headaches for Fenerbahce. In my opinion the only game that could make Fenerbahce lose points is the game against:

Kayserispor is not a great team, they are not at the top of the table, but they can make Fenerbahce draw and lose points. Kayserispor's last games were great for them, they are 4 games without winning and they have a history of defeats when they played against Fenerbahce:



source: https://livescores.biz/h2h/fenerbahce-vs-kayserispor

In Kayserispor's last game against Fenerbahce, they managed to score 3 goals and could have won, unfortunately they had some mistakes that made them lose. But it is an important fact for the next game against Fenerbahce. If Fenerbahce wins the next games and also wins the game against Kayserispor, in my opinion they will lose in the game against Galatasaray. At most Fenerbahce would get a draw, but a victory against Galatasaray would be extremely difficult. The only way for Fenerbahce to become champions and pray that Galatasaray loses in the next games
legendary
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April 10, 2024, 05:58:33 AM
I really wonder why Fenerbahçe won't play their next match on Monday instead of Sunday.  Huh  They have a Conference League match tomorrow as you know. They are going to Greece to face Olympiacos. Only with a 2-day break they have a Super League match against Karagümrük. I think the fixture could have been organized like Galatasaray to play on Sunday instead.

This is quite good news for Galatasaray of course. They can turn this into their advantage if they beat Alanyaspor away. Maybe Fenerbahçe players might still be fatigued quite much in their match here. Galatasaray's advantage is really not to play in any other tournament now.  Smiley
The tournament is very important for Fenerbahçe. It is true that they will be tired for the league match they will play at the weekend, as they will focus on the conference league match. Fenerbahçe wants to win championships in two places. They try very hard to be leaders. They want to be favorites in the match against Olympiakos. For this, they have to be on the field with their best squad. They will probably have to rotate in the league.
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April 10, 2024, 05:54:36 AM
I really wonder why Fenerbahçe won't play their next match on Monday instead of Sunday.  Huh  They have a Conference League match tomorrow as you know. They are going to Greece to face Olympiacos. Only with a 2-day break they have a Super League match against Karagümrük. I think the fixture could have been organized like Galatasaray to play on Sunday instead.

This is quite good news for Galatasaray of course. They can turn this into their advantage if they beat Alanyaspor away. Maybe Fenerbahçe players might still be fatigued quite much in their match here. Galatasaray's advantage is really not to play in any other tournament now.  Smiley
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April 09, 2024, 07:34:06 PM
I thought Fenerbahçe would win comfortably against Adana Demirspor. But Fenerbahçe barely got a win against Adana Demirspor. It was a much-needed win for F.Bahçe. Because Fenerbahçe's rival Galatasaray did not make a mistake against Hatayspor. Both teams made no mistakes on their way to the title.

Yeah especially on the first half of the match when Fenerbahçe score there first goal and it was not long Adana Demirspor equalize the goal making it 1-1, so truly Adana Demirspor gave Fenerbahçe a very tough time at the beginning but it was fortunate for Fenerbahçe because there second half became a game changer for them and they began to dominate the match giving Adana Demirspor no opportunity to perform, so irrespective of Fenerbahçe not playing well on the first half doesn't actually make them a lesser club because the only club that's holding them from leading the table is Galatasaray.
While the competition in the league continued like this, it was very risky for Fenerbahçe to lose points against Adana Demirspor because there was little time left until the league ended. On the other hand, the championship race between Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray continues and both teams continue on their way. Fenerbahçe will play a tough conference league match with Olympiacos this week. Galatasaray is luckier in this respect because it will have more rest opportunities.
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April 09, 2024, 06:15:39 PM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


This season we have focused too much on non-football events instead of focusing on football. We only want to watch football now and we want to finish this season without any problems. I think we all need that.

I think the derby match in the 37th week of the league will decide the championship. Both teams will win all their games until then or stay in the race. Everything will be decided in the 37th week of the league. I hope the tension in that match will be low and it will be a championship match where the deserving team wins.

I think the derby match will decide the championship, it seems like neither team will lose any points, neither team has any big matches left.
I am very curious about what kind of match we will watch in the derby.
The referee of this match will definitely be talked about a lot. I think a foreign referee should be brought in for this match and should manage this match.
This should be determined by the teams and TFF.
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April 09, 2024, 05:55:24 PM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


This season we have focused too much on non-football events instead of focusing on football. We only want to watch football now and we want to finish this season without any problems. I think we all need that.

I think the derby match in the 37th week of the league will decide the championship. Both teams will win all their games until then or stay in the race. Everything will be decided in the 37th week of the league. I hope the tension in that match will be low and it will be a championship match where the deserving team wins.
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April 09, 2024, 10:00:14 AM
I thought Fenerbahçe would win comfortably against Adana Demirspor. But Fenerbahçe barely got a win against Adana Demirspor. It was a much-needed win for F.Bahçe. Because Fenerbahçe's rival Galatasaray did not make a mistake against Hatayspor. Both teams made no mistakes on their way to the title.

Yeah especially on the first half of the match when Fenerbahçe score there first goal and it was not long Adana Demirspor equalize the goal making it 1-1, so truly Adana Demirspor gave Fenerbahçe a very tough time at the beginning but it was fortunate for Fenerbahçe because there second half became a game changer for them and they began to dominate the match giving Adana Demirspor no opportunity to perform, so irrespective of Fenerbahçe not playing well on the first half doesn't actually make them a lesser club because the only club that's holding them from leading the table is Galatasaray.
legendary
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April 09, 2024, 09:26:00 AM
Başakşehir drew 1-1 with Beşiktaş at home. The match was generally under Başakşehir's control. Beşiktaş made 156 passes in this match. Beşiktaş conceded in the last minute from a corner. The player who scored the goal for Başakşehir was Emirhan İlkkan, a former young player of Beşiktaş. Life is really weird. Two years ago, Beşiktaş offered Emirhan İlkhan a funny salary of 10,000 TL per month. First to Torino and then to Başakşehir. He also rejected this funny offer and went first to Torino and then to Başakşehir.
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April 09, 2024, 08:55:11 AM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


It wasn't mainly because of thinking of their Conference League match in fact. It was because of the aim to protest TFF board for doing their work really bad. Especially after terrible things happened at the end of the Trabzonspor - Fenerbahçe match Ali Koç wanted to take an action.

I don't know if this was the right kind of action though. If I were him I wouldn't even go to the city in which the match was going to be played. There is no point in bringing U19 players to play for only 1 minute and then go to the locker room.  Sad
Moreover, in that 1 minute, Galatasaray immediately scored the goal and took the lead 1-0. Fenerbahçe protested against the federation officials by bringing its U19 players onto the field, but I think the brand value of the league was gradually decreasing. This move may have caused a stir, as Ceferin and the Turkish teams started to meet one by one. It was not easy for a team playing with the dream of the Champions League to accept such a thing.
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April 09, 2024, 02:20:00 AM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.


It wasn't mainly because of thinking of their Conference League match in fact. It was because of the aim to protest TFF board for doing their work really bad. Especially after terrible things happened at the end of the Trabzonspor - Fenerbahçe match Ali Koç wanted to take an action.

I don't know if this was the right kind of action though. If I were him I wouldn't even go to the city in which the match was going to be played. There is no point in bringing U19 players to play for only 1 minute and then go to the locker room.  Sad
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April 09, 2024, 12:22:03 AM

If you say bad, it actually not that bad because Besiktas can still be one of the top team, but regarding Fernando Santos tactics, I agree that they are not optimal and cannot keep up with the tactics of more modern games.
Previously, Fernando Santos did have experience in coaching Portugal and Poland, so this was the reason why Besiktas tried to use his services as coach, but his performance over the past 3 months has shown to be less than optimal.
He is quite old and the tactical style of play he uses for Besiktas cannot surpass what the opposing team does, just as today match against Istanbul BB was also less than optimal.

Fernando Santos may not be one of the best technical directors in the world. But we have to remember that Beşiktaş fired 5 coaches this season before signing Fernando Santos. It would be unfair if we put all the blame on Fernando Santos. I think the biggest problem is the quality of Beşiktaş's squad. That's why Beşiktaş can't get consistent results even if Xabi Alonso comes. Also, we have to say that the signings they made in the winter transfer window didn't contribute to the team. So they are having a season where everything is bad for them.
Yes, currently the style of play created by Fernando Santos in terms of tactics in each match seems to be lagging behind other team, in fact several times the games created by Fernando Santos are easy for the opposing team to read.
This is the reason why many people doubt Besiktas and are considered an unstable team, if Fernando Santos is willing to follow more advanced playing style, maybe it can really help Besiktas to make it easier to win.
When it comes to other coaches, we actually don't need to talk about it because it has been proven that there won't be any changes and for the future of Besiktas, I not sure that Xabi will come as the coach to replace Fernando Santos.

Moreover, Besiktas already has players who can be said to be quite good, overall the line-up they have can be relied on if the formation applied by the coach is really right.
Things like this should be concern for Fernando Santos, he must be able to place each player correctly and use some more advanced playing strategies, otherwise Besiktas will really need new coach next season.
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April 08, 2024, 03:46:13 PM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.

Why are you surprised? Fenerbahçe had already announced many times that they wouldn't play this match. I expected them to make more radical decisions, such as withdrawing from the league. But they only sacrificed the Super Cup, and this match should have been played at the beginning of the season or in the middle of the season at the latest. It's almost time for the new season's Super Cup match, but the guys could only organize this match now. This incompetent federation made a mess of that too.
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April 08, 2024, 03:05:05 PM
The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.


You said something very true. I completely agree with your opinion. Unfortunately, there is no resignation culture in our country. I guess, again no one will resign after this chaos. Last night, what really happened? Why did Fenerbahce wait to concede a goal that game at all if their plan was to leave the pitch? Some fans are angry with Ali Koç because he couldn't even do the protest properly.
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April 08, 2024, 01:57:38 PM
The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.

As expected, Fenerbahçe started the game with the U19 team. In the first minutes of the game, the Fenerbahçe team was going to withdraw from the field, but Galatasaray took the lead 1-0 with the goal of Icardini before the game was stopped, and Fenerbahçe withdrew from the field when the game was stopped.
TFF will announce the decision as soon as possible.

I wasn't aware of what was going on around this game beforehand, but now I read some interviews and realized what the whole deal was about. It is complicated, but what I don't get yet is: why did Fenerbahce go and play that game at all if their plan was to cancel the game or leave the pitch after a few minutes anyway? Does that make any difference?

I think it was the Fenerbahce president or some high official from the club who said that the U19 will go there, but that he can "guarantee the game won't last 90 minutes". If everything was set in stone from the start, I don't understand why they let the game begin at all and not just boycott it.
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April 08, 2024, 10:49:21 AM
What the fuck was that? Im refering to the behaviour of Fenerhbace in the supercup final against Galatasaray, i read in some papers it was related to a fight with the Turkis federation , but man i think the claim is not so convincing, first if i was the Turkish federation i say to them start to play better on europe and stop making excuse about tireness, in english footbal they play way more and no team say anything.
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April 08, 2024, 08:27:06 AM
The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.
I learnt this the hard way and it is a huge relieve that I later learnt this tough lesson. I use to be so confident of Beşiktaş, Galatasaray and Fenerbahce believing the three teams to always remain victorious against any opponent. It worked for sometime but not too long before Beşiktaş became a weak team that cannot be trusted. Similarly, Fenerbahce also started demonstrating a high level of inconsistency in both home and away matches. Galatasaray did not disappoint much but the odds is usually very small and highly discouraging. The safe way to goal about this is to target goals for the selected teams, at least that have been coming through for most of them.
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April 08, 2024, 07:35:03 AM
The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

This final match was supposed to be played in Arabia, but due to some problems in Arabia it couldn't be played. Now the match that was supposed to be played in Türkiye could not be played because Fenerbahçe president Ali Koç pulled the Fenerbahçe football team off the field.

Ali Koç, who is Fenerbahçe president only because he is the son of the richest family in Turkey, should resign from his position as Fenerbahçe president. He has been president for 6 seasons and has no achievements. Fenerbahçe had unsuccessful results during his term. He used Fenerbahçe in this match to overshadow his own failure.

Ali Koç should resign before the president of the Turkish football federation. Fenerbahçe is the team of 30 million fans, not his family's company.
Because of these off-field factors, betting on matches is also bad and ridiculous. We don't know what's going to happen in the next few weeks. With this withdrawal from the league, referee errors, etc., there is great uncertainty. As written above, there is no real reason why no match was played this week.

Ali Koç's name has been mentioned for years for Fenerbahçe presidency. Eventually he became the president, but there was failure after failure, strangeness after strangeness. I think it would be better for everyone, even for the betting, if such a rich man concentrates on his own companies and quits football.
legendary
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April 07, 2024, 06:19:49 PM
The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

There is one thing we still can't get used to, this is Turkey and no one resigns here, it doesn't matter whether they are guilty or not.

As expected, Fenerbahçe started the game with the U19 team. In the first minutes of the game, the Fenerbahçe team was going to withdraw from the field, but Galatasaray took the lead 1-0 with the goal of Icardini before the game was stopped, and Fenerbahçe withdrew from the field when the game was stopped.
TFF will announce the decision as soon as possible.
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April 07, 2024, 05:56:29 PM
It was obvious that Fenerbahce would not take the field in this match.Ali Koc was clear from the beginning that he wanted this match to be postponed and rescheduled for a better date.The league and the European Cup were more important for Fenerbahce, which made this match lose its importance.If Galatasaray had not been eliminated from the European Cup and both Fenerbahce and Galatasaray had a European Cup match 3-4 days later, the TFF's decision would have been to postpone the match, but they did not do that. We can clearly say that the TFF took a biased decision and no one can deny that.
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April 07, 2024, 05:54:08 PM
The Super Cup scandal in Saudi Arabia. And today's scandal. Despite so much scandal, no official resigned.

This final match was supposed to be played in Arabia, but due to some problems in Arabia it couldn't be played. Now the match that was supposed to be played in Türkiye could not be played because Fenerbahçe president Ali Koç pulled the Fenerbahçe football team off the field.

Ali Koç, who is Fenerbahçe president only because he is the son of the richest family in Turkey, should resign from his position as Fenerbahçe president. He has been president for 6 seasons and has no achievements. Fenerbahçe had unsuccessful results during his term. He used Fenerbahçe in this match to overshadow his own failure.

Ali Koç should resign before the president of the Turkish football federation. Fenerbahçe is the team of 30 million fans, not his family's company.
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