Topic: [TUTORIAL] Earn Bitcoin Here! - page 2. (Read 3035 times)

I mean no offense I just am not a fan of this tutorial.  It suggests buying of accounts, and loans.  Things I think new users should stay away from.  I think account farmers give signature users a bad name due to quality of posts.  As even if buyer does decent posts chances are the farmer had sub-par posts with a beginnner signature campaign.

I don't think you should count the "You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts." These are users who are brand new and are spending hours for cents.  Which is horrible.  A lot of these I don't consider users as they think it's get rich quick... try faucets... and leave after making cents.

Yes whales own a lot of BTC, but any fiat there is not a even distribution of wealth.  So I think bitcoin is the same as any fiat money.  But I don't think you can say "since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives."  I just don't believe this number.

Well we didnt know who participated in surveys, but lets just assume it was newbies.

But i have fresh data , if you look at the new number of bitcoin users, mostly from Philipines, and SE asia nowadays, then you can correlate that with faucet users and small earning website users data.

You will interestingly find out that almost all new waves of new bitcoin users end up in faucet sites or other earning sites, with small payouts.

That should suggest that most bitcoin users (which are not the core of this forum, the first 10,000 users) are most likely poor as hell.

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Also you can look at the address bitcoin distribution, and the mt gox data to figure out the distribution of wealth.


There are several indicators that point out that most of the wealth is concentrated in the top 2% of bitcoin users

The bitcoin elite could hold as much as 65% of the coins.


And the other core users, which is probably not more than 50,000, hold the other 20-25%.

The remaining 10% is then shared by all newbies. I suspect most dont even have 0.2 BTC

I'm guessing he is talking about his "survey" - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/survey-how-much-bitcoins-you-have-1287718 which kinda looked like a attempt to get posts looking at how long it ran, and was all for a pie chart that a very limited number entered into.  Also it being in newbie forum had to effect it.  But even his own survey does not show 99 percent as poor.

The thing about bitcoins is we cannot tie them to a person easily so we can't say blanket figures like 99 percent are poor.   But far less then 99 percent are poor I think.  And what do you consider poor?  As that term means SO many different amounts depending on where you live.

If you are posting here anyway, and have a high post count, you can just as well earn something while posting. It is up to you of course

I have to assume the 99% is just your assumption and not based on anything. I dont see a reason to reply to the rest of your points as we start to circulate. Its pretty obvious that we have greatly different views on the world and maybe some day we will meet in person and talk about it in more detail.

The incentive you give is like the fish in the proverb, where I prefer people would learn to fish instead. Maybe you are right and those that come here no longer have the mental capacity to learn fishing. I hope you are not. I will be here answering questions regardless, at least for a little longer.

Thats how humans are, I already told you that only a small minority of bitcoin users are fans, the rest of them are just casual users.

We cant have bitcoin as a small private club anymore, to make it global, we have to deal with greedy people too.

If the high and knowledgeable members left because of this, then are were weak, and they are not really supporting bitcoin.


Bitcoin has whatever value we give them,and currently thats quantified by the price.

Whatever potential value it has other than what is quantifies, we will see in the future.


It's not just shitposters, look i wasnt the inventor of the sig campaigns, if it were up to me i would have done it in a different way.

Perhaps remove signatures, and have only avatar campaigns with fixed monthly payout, and then the spam would be reduced.

But it's not my forum, i`m just using the current opportunities.


Haha thats funny but you have to learn more about human psychology. 





Yes this forum is not the only magnet, and it should not be, because that would be a single point of failure.

But it's also the biggest community, so people will most likely find it eventually, and since 99% of bitcoin users are poor, we need to give them incentives.

Mining is not a hype anymore, because that was one of the major magnets that drove greedy people, now probably the sig campaigns are the only income source for greedy people.

I do not want to make a simple +1 , mine is a constructive criticism : with 3 account the amount of stuff to post triples , this does not mean the quality of a post.
I think it is easy to spam , you should be limited to having a personal account (as well as to build a respectable identity on the forum for any services )
Cheers

i personally don't recommend for buying account here and better start all it since newbie because if you bought account from scammer i thought you will having trouble too and i was consider that start everything from beginning is more better

I think this is a good way to start for a newbie who wants to start earning bitcoins by positing on forum as investment is not too high and returns are very good.

its rare tutorial if someone mentioning about buy bitcointalk account but i think this is good for newbie,they can loan bitcoin and buy bitcointalk account for join signature campaign,they should hard work and learn.

The problem is that you are attracting more greedy idiots with threads like these and those that get it and help make this a valueable and usefull forum will wander off and no longer care. Already a high number of old and knowledgable members are gone.


You are talking about price, not value. Bitcoin has intrinsic value due its properties. This has nothing to do with its price and this is exactly why the greedy can not give bitcoin value. They only see its price.


If they build something, shitposters dont build anything. They just rehash. This is exactly my point. If they come and learn and grow and want to understand bitcoin they can contribute to its value by explaining it correctly to others. The more people deeply understand bitcoin the better.


Im not so sure about this. There is so much information (in the internet in general, not only about bitcoin) that people can easily feel overwhelmed by it. I think they are not sheep, they are just scared because they dont want to make the wrong decision. Failing to see that there are no wrong decisions in ones own life.


I think we are drifting off a bit from the main topic here, but yes the system must remain open to everyone. I will try to bring this back to the forum and my main point. This forum is not attracting the majority. The majority will install an app and just use it. This forum may serve them though by spreading knowledge to those that help the majority. Discussing ideas on where bitcoin should or should not go. Think about new ways to use bitcoin or new businesses. All this is nothing the majority does, the majority will just consume and use. Pitching this place as a big faucet for posts is doing it discredit. Its a place of knowledge and exchange and yes this will include coins unless you fight against it, but it should not be the main focus.

If doing this method works for some people then good for them.  Keep in mind, though, that the more people do it, the less effective this method will be.  Signature campaigns will get so watered down that the people will have to move on to something other tedious chore that pays $1 or $2 per hour

Great. I also wouldn't really recommend faucets. Just another tip.

Lol thanks I'll be heading there in a few.

Well, alright then. There are some other useful ways to earn BTC here. The goods and services forum will help you.

I'm not ever gonna sign up to some campaign. I'm not an idiot to not know it's like doing a survey online for pennies a day.

Don't worry. It is indeed quite possible. As some people have actually already mentioned, purchasing accounts is really possible in order to make some bitcoins with campaigns. I must notify you that campaigns only give you a quarter per day, depending on how often you post in a day which makes it rather tedious.

It's really hard to make it work as a new user. I didn't even know you could make that much with campaigns.

That was the answer yo your response: 
Then what is the problem? If what you say is true then there is no problem.




It is, because fiat takes up 99% of value currently, so it's the de facto benchmark for value.

That may change in the future,but currently, fiat is the best benchmark. It's just relative, if you want you can compare it to gold, but i`ll compare it to fiat.



I was referring to commies and socialists here. They bring in their ideology, to build in a wealth redistribution mechanism in the protocol.

It's ridiculous, but they also bring their comrades and add a net 1 million dollar to the community.  Their stupid idea fails, but they still brough 1 million dollar in bitcoin.

Therefore they have added a net positive value to bitcoin.




I get it, i`m here for bitcoin, but you have to understand that 90% of people are sheep, and only do what they are told.

The intellectual class is always in minority, but you have to deal with the majority, in their ways, if you want to expand bitcoin.

Bitcoin cant remain forever a geek/programmer/tech enthusiast community, you also have to add 70 year old grandpas, and 20 year old hippies at some point.