Topic: ██ Tutorial: How to keep your Bitcoins 100% secure! ██ - page 4. (Read 5823 times)

Ok thanks I will keep recommending it to my friends.

I have my doubts about these hardware wallets in general, for example worst case scenario they go bankrupt and that website can't be accessed anymore, how will you extract the bitcoins then from the device?

Or i also heard that the website is pretty slow and has some bugs.

Again these devices are good for quickspending, like a normal money wallet, but i would not use them for long term big wealth storage...

Nice writeup.  Here's a very simple one

1) Go here: https://www.buytrezor.com (you can pay with BTC)
OR
1) Go here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R6MRI50 or http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R6LSAZI to purchase from one of our community members (windpath).  If you're Amazon Prime, free 2 day shipping.
2) Wait for it to arrive
3) Set it up
4) Safe and secure

It's not that its a potential risk, the newer the harddisk the higher the risk is, since all this surveilance got out of control. And its getting worse and worse. We live in a global tyrrany now.

A full system scan is imperative, but i also urge people to download Malwarebytes too, since Kaspersky could miss a few malware. I just ran a scan last night with it and picked up other malwares that were not detectable by Kaspersky.

Of course with this method the funds are 100% secure, however the online PC could still be compromized and if you use your online pc for interne banking then it could be a serious problem.

However for bitcoin it isnt until you follow those steps with military discipline, no hacker could hack your coins

so, even a brand new hard disk is a potential risk. you can't trust anything nowadays.
regarding the ram. is it enough to just run a full system virus scan to make sure everything is clean? 

Check the harddrive for hidden firmware on your online PC before putting your bitcoins on it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150216

Yes ram can also contain virus, that it is why it has be be carefully put on the offline PC. And after you want to use the funds there you need to be cautious with it.

I`ll put together a tutorial how to spend from the safe offline wallet without compromizing it. Done!

thanks for putting this tutorial together. i am think of taking over a pc from a family member to use it solely for bitcoin.
i will buy a new hard drive for security purposes but can ram memory also contain a virus?

I`d say all online wallets have moderate security. Sure they can be hacked, or some keylogger reads your password while your write it in, or your government is suspicious about you and all it takes is a court order to empty your online wallet, and you can do nothing about it, as the wallet will comply with the authorities.

So I personally would never store more than 1 BTC on online wallets. Sure they are good for quick-access spending wallets if you want to shop stuff or buy things with bitcoin, and you need quick access to funds (because using the offline funds needs more carefulness), then go ahead.

However if you want to store your retirement fund or your savings, then definitely dont trust them. I don't care if angels run the wallet service, you can never trust a 3rd party with 100% confidence, especially not for funds > 1m$.

Just look how responsibly banks handle the funds:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/banco-de-madrid-files-for-bankruptcy-after-parent-accused-of-money-laundering-1426495127

Would you people consider the block chain wallet secure because that is what I recommend to most people who are new to bitcoin because it is super easy.

What do you mean by this?

Kaspersky has anti rootkit scanner. I just heard in the news that Kaspersky detected many new firmwares in hardware planted by the NSA to spy on people.

Since Kaspersky is Russian, and no other antivirus detected it but this, it can already be said that which antiviruses work for the governments and which are trustworthy lol.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/16/us-usa-cyberspying-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150216


Well thats a bit crude, resetting the printer would have been enough, the printer doesnt have storable memory, only a cache, so after you keep it offline enough or just simply restart, the cache is ereased.

Or print something else with it, that also ereases the previous cache.

But i guess you wanted to make sure.

I`m not sure about honey traps, what did you store there 0.001BTC or similar? Some hackers could only target funds bigger than 1 BTC, so if you store like 10BTC next to a 0.001BTC honeytrap then only the 10BTC could get stolen and you realize it too late.

Also i dont think bitadress.org is a safe way to create an address, there can be millions of things that could stole the private key: keylogger,spyware,trojans. You can never make 100% sure that the online pc doesnt have virus, but you can with the offline PC. That is why it's better to only generate new addresses with the offline PC with a non-tampered Armory or BitcoinCore wallet

If only they can start accepting BTC directly, I would continue using their software.  How are you hoping to prevent Bad Usb virusses written into the firmware? A format will not clear the firmware.

We had some old computer and printers at work, destined to be destroyed, so I visited bitaddress.org and saved it for offline use... I then disconnected it from the internet and printed 200+ paper wallets for future use. {I then destroyed the hardware} so there are no way to get to that information.. It's already recycled material.

Those paper wallets are laminated and split between several destinations.... I used 5 for "Honey traps" on sites and none of them where hacked or accessed... so the rest should be safe.   

Well i recommended Kaspersky IS 2015 because it has everything from rootkit scanner which can hide itself in the root sector of the USB, to normal antivirus, secure keyboard input (which can be helpful in other fields), and firewall with complete internet scam detection like phising site or virused site.

Thanks i`ll read it , gain wisdom from there and implement it in this one

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Nice article.
Here is another thread written earlier - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/howto-create-a-100-secure-wallet-17240

I would definitely add malwarebytes to whatever antivirus you might recommend. Other than that nice guide

OP you should put up a BTC address for tips incase any noobs want to thank you for helping them out.

Yes that is true, however that is only half security.

Because windows has alot of backdoors and shady malware can always sneak into the USB and into the other PC.

Especially in this surveilance era that we live in right now, i need 100% security if i had 1 million $ to store on my own, so each step must be carefully considered.

Also armory has the lockbox feature so you can set up 2 PC's and store the wallets in 2 pieces through a lockbox for extra security.

Also this is only a storage tutorial, i`ll soon write part 2, where i`ll write about how to access the storage safely, because thats a bigger challange, than just purely storing it.

So stay tuned

good giude, but i think newbie, are searching for something more easy and immediate

for example: i think windows firewall is good enough, no need to dl something else

the third point you described (Get your PC that you will dedicate to keep your bitcoins) is everything they need without adding too much

desktop dedicated entirely to btc without installing/surfing, will do the trick, if not connected to wi-fi or any other network, just with its own network

Thanks guys, i`m still updating my post to rething if i missed something.

Also if you guys think that i missed something security related then please tell me to correct it.

I want to make a guide here that is 100% hackproof, so please help contribute to it, thanks!

Very nice tutorial!  Good instructions, and pictures I give it a thumbs up.

Thanks so much for writing this up OP! it helps a lot!