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A blind trader would really be ending up on being that awakened trader.  Cheesy It all matters on the experience that they would encounter and those initial thoughts and believe on mind will really be swept
away and they would really be having that other approach on the time that they had gained up sufficient experience through different trading encounters.Sooner or later you would really be realizing off those things.
From blind to awaken which it would be the most common case to happen where it isnt surprising that you would really be more better when you do realize up things along the way.
If you are really that liking not to progress yourself then you would be sticking into your common methods until your do realize that it is pointless to continue on this way.

I agree.

Even an awaken trader can also make mistakes with his own technical analysis because we all are doesn't know what's gonna happen in the next movement of the candle. Technical analysis only helps us to have an idea of what might happen next in the price chart, but that doesn't work sometimes so yeah, experience is the best teacher as always.

After all the failures, if you didn't realize something, it means you're not making yourself accept failures to teach you what you'll do next, and that's why most of the newbie traders kept on losing a lot of money because they are not evolving to something better.

Both could fail because both are dealing with the volatility of the market. The difference is, the awakened trader is more careful and skeptical and the decisions rely on technical analysis while the blind only makes decisions based on his personal view.
Awakened traders and blind traders can make good profits but the awakened trader is just more technical so his decisions have a concrete basis compared to blind traders who only basbaseeir decisions on what he feels.

It is true that anyone, whether he is a professional trader or a beginner, will always encounter failures and losses.
The difference is that a professional may occasionally make mistakes but only on a small percentage.
Even if something goes wrong some of the professional traders may have better risk management and deal with psychological stress better.
Because professional traders have more experience and flying hours in this matter.

Actually, in my opinion, this is a stage that every trader will go through.
Starting from a beginner to become a professional.
But I think it goes back to individual character and mindset,
do they really take trading seriously or just give up as beginners.
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A blind trader would really be ending up on being that awakened trader.  Cheesy It all matters on the experience that they would encounter and those initial thoughts and believe on mind will really be swept
away and they would really be having that other approach on the time that they had gained up sufficient experience through different trading encounters.Sooner or later you would really be realizing off those things.
From blind to awaken which it would be the most common case to happen where it isnt surprising that you would really be more better when you do realize up things along the way.
If you are really that liking not to progress yourself then you would be sticking into your common methods until your do realize that it is pointless to continue on this way.

I agree.

Even an awaken trader can also make mistakes with his own technical analysis because we all are doesn't know what's gonna happen in the next movement of the candle. Technical analysis only helps us to have an idea of what might happen next in the price chart, but that doesn't work sometimes so yeah, experience is the best teacher as always.

After all the failures, if you didn't realize something, it means you're not making yourself accept failures to teach you what you'll do next, and that's why most of the newbie traders kept on losing a lot of money because they are not evolving to something better.

Both could fail because both are dealing with the volatility of the market. The difference is, the awakened trader is more careful and skeptical and the decisions rely on technical analysis while the blind only makes decisions based on his personal view.
Awakened traders and blind traders can make good profits but the awakened trader is just more technical so his decisions have a concrete basis compared to blind traders who only basbaseeir decisions on what he feels.
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Based on personal experiences in trading, personal research and observations, ive on my own personal terms, come to the conclusion that, there is two types of trader, and how risky trading be for an individual, depends largely on the type of trader such an individual is..
So without wasting much time, lets dive in..

My Two Types Of Traders Are -

  • The Awakened trader
  • The Blind trader

The awakened trader is one who took their time to study all that there is to trading, including the rudiments, intrics and mechanics, they can read charts, they can effectively do technical and fundamental analysis, they know how important news drives the market and they follow news bumper to bumper.
I personally will chose to see trading as an art rather than science, art can be mastered, and so is trading, those who master the art of trading, we call them professional traders, trading is their profession, this is how they carter for themselves and their family, they are the awakened type of traders, there are very few traders in this category.

The blind trader on the other hand, are traders who guess-trade, they buy Bitcoin, not because they are sure it will go up in the next minute, but because they are hoping/guessing it will, some times, they guess right, but other times, their guess is wrong, trading is like sports betting for them, it is BUY vs SELL playing the match, they watch out for which side other people are contributing more to, are more people buying?, they will buy(FOMO), are more people selling, they will sell(FUD), they lack the will power to make there own original decision and stand by it, this is because they are not even sure of what they are doing, they are just guessing the market, this type of traders are the blind traders, there are very many traders in this category...

To upcoming traders, which category do you want to belong? its your decision to make.
But most times the Blind traders ends up making profit too, I know of many guess -traders that makes profit , but the issues is since they don't know the rudiments of the trade they won't know when to end the trade and most time it leads to the total loss of the currency,
If I am guess-trading I will bear in mind that the risk of loosing that money is greater and bigger than the risk of making profit so how ever the trade goes it doesn't come as a surprise to me.
But experience as you said matters alot whether you are a blind trader or awaken trader experience will always guide you to an extent on what to do in different situations.
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A blind trader would really be ending up on being that awakened trader.  Cheesy It all matters on the experience that they would encounter and those initial thoughts and believe on mind will really be swept
away and they would really be having that other approach on the time that they had gained up sufficient experience through different trading encounters.Sooner or later you would really be realizing off those things.
From blind to awaken which it would be the most common case to happen where it isnt surprising that you would really be more better when you do realize up things along the way.
If you are really that liking not to progress yourself then you would be sticking into your common methods until your do realize that it is pointless to continue on this way.

I agree.

Even an awaken trader can also make mistakes with his own technical analysis, because we all are doesn't know what's gonna happen in the next movement of the candle. Technical analysis only helps us to have an idea on what might happen next in the price chart, but that doesn't work sometimes so yeah, experience is the best teacher as always.

After all the failures, if you didn't realize something, it means you're not making yourself to accept failures to teach you what you'll do next, and that's why most of the newbie traders kept on losing a lot of money because they are not evolving to something better.
sr. member
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I line your line of thought at OP. However, I wonder which category the holders, day traders, swing traders, positon traders fall into.
What I tend to think is that there is a process or stages to this.
Maybe that is what the OP means. Because you move from one stage to the next on the trading route.
You may be the awakened trader today and the blind trader tomorrow or vice-versa it all depends on your strategy.
legendary
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The blind trader on the other hand, are traders who guess-trade, they buy Bitcoin, not because they are sure it will go up in the next minute, but because they are hoping/guessing it will, some times, they guess right, but other times, their guess is wrong, trading is like sports betting for them, it is BUY vs SELL playing the match, they watch out for which side other people are contributing more to, are more people buying?, they will buy(FOMO), are more people selling, they will sell(FUD), they lack the will power to make there own original decision and stand by it, this is because they are not even sure of what they are doing, they are just guessing the market, this type of traders are the blind traders, there are very many traders in this category...

To upcoming traders, which category do you want to belong? its your decision to make.
A blind trader is a temporary phenomenon, because we all know what the simple guessing of the price movement leads to, such trading can only be successful temporarily. I doubt that there are such traders, that is, there are such people, but they cannot be called traders, they are just amateurs who want to try their hand at trading. And a successful trader will always study the fundamental before seriously engaging in this business.
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Oh yes, The more we trade is the more experience we earn ourselves and this experience can be converted to knowledge that we can use on our next trades. As long as you have the desire to achieve your goal and the desperation to learn by experience, You will basically learn trading along the way but yeah there's risk to it like losing a bunch of amount of capital before you achieve your first successful aware trade. Most of our first trade are fails because of lack of experience but there's a chance that we have knowledge on how to trade given that we studied before we trade, This means knowledge isn't the only one that can make your trade successful, There are many factors such as experience.
Just doing something several times does not increase your experience or your skills, I have known many people over the years which gave themselves all kind of goals, and even if I can perceive their enthusiasm they have failed to make any progress over the years and they are still stuck with the same skills and goals.

What they lack is intent, basically they do stuff but they do not even know what they are trying to find out with their actions, making no surprising at all they do not improve as they fail to gain any insight with their actions.
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  • The Awakened trader
  • The Blind trader
And the Awakened Traders, I am sure, were also the blind traders in the beginning, probably not all but most of them. We know that in order to become a professional and awakened person in the world of crypto trading, we need various processes to go through, starting with continuous learning and experience. Don't think that professional traders never lose and lose money. This is a big mistake, of course, they have been through it and even now they may still be going through periods of defeat when trading. However, what differentiates awakened traders from blind traders is how they react to their trading activities, whether they win or lose. How do they evaluate their strategy and performance during trading so that they can formulate a better strategy and trading accumulation in the future? And how do they respond to losing money while trading, are they able to control their emotions or not?

Dunno but I prefer to call professional traders rather than awakened traders. Maybe because it's a common term. But this term is also unique, it reminds me of anime that has the power of awakening where this power makes a person much better than before based on previous experiences and defeats.   Grin Grin

To upcoming traders, which category do you want to belong? its your decision to make.
For now, I'm in another category, namely given-up traders as traders and temporarily quitting trading because of several reasons and awareness.  Grin
But hopefully, someday, I can become a professional trader or awakened trader.
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One thing about the so-called awaken traders is that, while they are doing their analysis, strategizing and calculating the market on what action to take by then the best positions of the in the market must have gone by and they end up entering late all because they wanted to be sure before entering the market whereas the blind trader has already jumped in blindly at the best spot pulling out better profit than the awakened.
Be you a blind trader or an awakened one as OP categorized them, I believe there are times their patterns favours them it just depends how often they get lucky about it all.
A blind trader could really be ending up always to be awakened one on the time that they would really be making out some or getting the knowledge and experience that they would gain along the way and this what makes them a better trader.Its inevitable but it does depend on how you do gonna take up some things on which you would really be cope up with because there are ones who are really that stuck into learning
because they arent making themselves that able to learn and mindful about their errors and mistakes and this is why they do really get stucked and doesnt improve over time.
This is why it does vary on someone.
Oh yes, The more we trade is the more experience we earn ourselves and this experience can be converted to knowledge that we can use on our next trades. As long as you have the desire to achieve your goal and the desperation to learn by experience, You will basically learn trading along the way but yeah there's risk to it like losing a bunch of amount of capital before you achieve your first successful aware trade. Most of our first trade are fails because of lack of experience but there's a chance that we have knowledge on how to trade given that we studied before we trade, This means knowledge isn't the only one that can make your trade successful, There are many factors such as experience.
legendary
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One thing about the so-called awaken traders is that, while they are doing their analysis, strategizing and calculating the market on what action to take by then the best positions of the in the market must have gone by and they end up entering late all because they wanted to be sure before entering the market whereas the blind trader has already jumped in blindly at the best spot pulling out better profit than the awakened.
Be you a blind trader or an awakened one as OP categorized them, I believe there are times their patterns favours them it just depends how often they get lucky about it all.
A blind trader could really be ending up always to be awakened one on the time that they would really be making out some or getting the knowledge and experience that they would gain along the way and this what makes them a better trader.Its inevitable but it does depend on how you do gonna take up some things on which you would really be cope up with because there are ones who are really that stuck into learning
because they arent making themselves that able to learn and mindful about their errors and mistakes and this is why they do really get stucked and doesnt improve over time.
This is why it does vary on someone.
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One thing about the so-called awaken traders is that, while they are doing their analysis, strategizing and calculating the market on what action to take by then the best positions of the in the market must have gone by and they end up entering late all because they wanted to be sure before entering the market whereas the blind trader has already jumped in blindly at the best spot pulling out better profit than the awakened.
Be you a blind trader or an awakened one as OP categorized them, I believe there are times their patterns favours them it just depends how often they get lucky about it all.
You may be overestimating how long it can take for a good trader to take a decision, swing traders may take a few minutes to study the market and take a decision, but when a trade can last for days or even months then to take a few minutes will not make a major difference on the outcomes swing traders will get, and even if taking a few minutes could make a large difference if we were talking about day trading, day traders will adjust and could take a decision in matter of seconds instead.
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A blind trader is someone with strong manipulation skills. These types of traders have strong followers on social media and choose and trade coins in the market just like they bet. He persuades the masses to buy the coins he said and eventually dumps the coins. These people have nothing to do with technical analysis and news, they just focus on advertising and driving audiences. The awakened trader teaches you how to fish, not how to eat fish. Awakened traders carefully consider each possibility and set a scenario based on the usual outcomes of all. If you intend to stay in the market for a long time, follow the awakened traders.
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Based on personal experiences in trading, personal research and observations, ive on my own personal terms, come to the conclusion that, there is two types of trader, and how risky trading be for an individual, depends largely on the type of trader such an individual is..
So without wasting much time, lets dive in..

My Two Types Of Traders Are -

  • The Awakened trader
  • The Blind trader

The awakened trader is one who took their time to study all that there is to trading, including the rudiments, intrics and mechanics, they can read charts, they can effectively do technical and fundamental analysis, they know how important news drives the market and they follow news bumper to bumper.
I personally will chose to see trading as an art rather than science, art can be mastered, and so is trading, those who master the art of trading, we call them professional traders, trading is their profession, this is how they carter for themselves and their family, they are the awakened type of traders, there are very few traders in this category.

The blind trader on the other hand, are traders who guess-trade, they buy Bitcoin, not because they are sure it will go up in the next minute, but because they are hoping/guessing it will, some times, they guess right, but other times, their guess is wrong, trading is like sports betting for them, it is BUY vs SELL playing the match, they watch out for which side other people are contributing more to, are more people buying?, they will buy(FOMO), are more people selling, they will sell(FUD), they lack the will power to make there own original decision and stand by it, this is because they are not even sure of what they are doing, they are just guessing the market, this type of traders are the blind traders, there are very many traders in this category...

To upcoming traders, which category do you want to belong? its your decision to make.
Based on my personal experience, everyone started from being a blind trader and end up being an awakened trader. You will create trading mishaps when you are still a newbie but that is understandable since you are starting learning to trade. And as you go on trading and increasing your experiences, you become wise and more strategic, that’s why you are now an awakened trader that knows already how to trade smartly and lessen your mistakes and losses.
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One thing about the so-called awaken traders is that, while they are doing their analysis, strategizing and calculating the market on what action to take by then the best positions of the in the market must have gone by and they end up entering late all because they wanted to be sure before entering the market whereas the blind trader has already jumped in blindly at the best spot pulling out better profit than the awakened.
Be you a blind trader or an awakened one as OP categorized them, I believe there are times their patterns favours them it just depends how often they get lucky about it all.
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Reading the OP's topic, in my case I'm still also a blind trader. Because I have not yet acquired that much knowledge about technical analysis.
But I keep abreast of news and trends and market updates and do my short-term trading accordingly. Since the market often pumps and down based on news, so I am continuing my short-term trading based on that. And here I have accepted that it is not true that I will face profit all the time. But looking at the current state of Bitcoin and its past few years I have also taken up a long-term trading, I don't know if I should call it blind trading or something else.
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It seems difficult for a trader to get advantage out of its trading because if a person even does not know about trading and how to manage their strategies so getting advantage become difficult sometimes. The person who is familiar with the strategies, related risk and know about the market position will be profitable. otherwise without knowing anything will make it difficult.
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The truth about trading is that it's success is not given to the brilliant of minds or the educated. Infact much learning may breed confusion and add to a person years before mastery. The single most important trait in trading is the traders psyche and it's mastery, it remains true that you don't have to be right to make money from the market. Understanding the probability nature and aspect to trading is your first salvation from interfering emotions. Get a simple system that works and stick to it for years u'll be a master of the trading system, if you continue to learn new systems and strategies then it'll come to pass that after many years your are confused
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Sadly, it is not always the case. I can tell that most "blind traders" do not learn much from experience alone, and because of that, they continuously lose their trades.                                                                                      I believe it is necessary for a "blind" trader to awaken himself/herself, not only by experience but also with the help of studying by reading and watching pieces of literature and joining discussions related to trading.
Losing the money is the easiest way to teach those irresponsible trader, they should experience the worst first before making any progress which is not good especially if you can avoid it in the first place. Being a trader is consider as your job, and in order to succeed you have to do your job correctly but if your focus is not to learn, don’t expect trading can make your rich, there’s no successful trader today that is purely based on their guesses.
Personally I started trading as a blind trader unfortunately market dealt with me after series of losing streaks consequently rekted my account, thereafter I changed my mindset to learning how to trade irrespective how long or how far it's going to take me to master it to certain level of earning profits, in as much as there are professional traders who trade for a living why can't I also do so, I had repositioned myself from a blind trader to an reawakened trader though not to a professional level yet but I begin to master the art and developed my own trading strategy which is based both technical and fundamental analysis.
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It is better to be an awakened trader after losing a previous trade by learning to analyze it properly and correctly to recover his losses and make a profit. This is not easy for an awakened trader type as they have to spend more time learning various trading-related things.

That's why before beginners enter the world of trading, they must learn about trading and have analytical skills to reduce the risk of those losses. Blind traders don't want to use their time to learn more because they only want to get profits without having to bother learning, namely by relying on signals from other traders.
Impossible for you to remain to be that blind of all the possible mistakes or errors that you would commit along the way.This is something that would unlikely to happen since we do always go after for profits which means
that we would really be giving out some importance for whatever condition that we do able to encounter and it would be part of our common sense that we would really be avoiding the next errors specially if we are already that having the experience on that.It would be that part of your instinct that you would really act against to it since you know that its a losing method or analysis but since this market is unpredictable
then there's no way that each analysis would be 100% precise. One things for sure is that you would really be making yourself wise as long you do proceed further.
But we see that some traders keep making mistakes and repeating them because they don't want to learn more about trading. They expect too much from other people's signals that they forget that trading is only for people who want to profit on their own terms and not depend on others. If they don't realize their mistake, they will lose more and won't be able to make a profit unless they can get lucky because I think luck in trading can come to them.

And suppose we already have sufficient experience and knowledge to trade. In that case, we must hone skills in analysis so that these skills can increase gradually and we will have more opportunities to make a profit. This is not easy because not everyone can follow the process.
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Calculating probabilities, then applying the strategy actually made me lose points because price volatility increased relatively quickly.
This is where consistency helps greatly, a trader who is consistent and always monitoring the market will only have to continue from where he or she left off, personally, reading charts to me is like reading a book, one can step out, and come back later to continue from where they stopped even though the chart keeps moving, even the market movement that happen while the trader was away, which is recorded in the chart, is another good source for the trader to analyze on to better predict what could happen even in the current market movement.
You though made it clear that you trade occasionally, and I also don't think there is any reason to be ashamed of what type of trader a person is, those who are the awakened traders was once blind, there were not born as awakened traders, so we all have the opportunity to become one if it's what we want
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