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June 02, 2020, 11:47:51 AM
#95
It happens that Lennox is still there and doing fine

In fact, he beat Holyfield twice, but the first bout was declared a draw. It looked liked a close fight, however Lennox would come out a winner if the judges were more impartial. The fight was in New York, and Lennox is from England while Holyfield is American, so the judges were not. The second fight made Lewis' dominance abundantly clear

My bad, I missed it, so these 3 were not already in their prime but they are still fighting, so what do we expect next, would it be possible for Lennox to fight the winner of Tyson vs Holyfield? I think that one is going to be an exciting fight too

Lennox would dispatch them both in a heartbeat

Though I'm almost certain that he will never step into the ring again (for a brawl) unless he is offered a fat paycheck, like a very, very fat one. He had been wise enough to call off his agreement to a rematch with the elder Klichko as he was obviously past his prime too and got tired from boxing. All in all, I think he is quite happy with his life in retirement. Unlike Holyfield and Tyson, who still look like they have something to tell each other on the canvas, he doesn't have anything  to prove to anyone, and especially to these two losers (from his point of view)

I don't think the boxing match will be between these two. Holyfield is clearly in massively worse shape than Tyson, and I'm sure he knows this. He will get mauled.

I'd love to see Tyson vs Mayweather, even at two different weight classes. I honestly think it would be a competitive fight.

Mayweather is the GOAT of the lower weight classes, and Tyson is a way past his prime heavyweight goat. If they can meet somewhere close in weight, maybe 160lb Mayweather vs 180lb Tyson, I think that would be fair.

Mike Tyson is only around 5ft 9, not too much bigger than Mayweather. I'm sure he's walking around about 190lbs right now, so he could probs cut a big to meet at a catchweight with Money.

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June 02, 2020, 11:04:56 AM
#94
It happens that Lennox is still there and doing fine

In fact, he beat Holyfield twice, but the first bout was declared a draw. It looked liked a close fight, however Lennox would come out a winner if the judges were more impartial. The fight was in New York, and Lennox is from England while Holyfield is American, so the judges were not. The second fight made Lewis' dominance abundantly clear

My bad, I missed it, so these 3 were not already in their prime but they are still fighting, so what do we expect next, would it be possible for Lennox to fight the winner of Tyson vs Holyfield? I think that one is going to be an exciting fight too

Lennox would dispatch them both in a heartbeat

Though I'm almost certain that he will never step into the ring again (for a brawl) unless he is offered a fat paycheck, like a very, very fat one. He had been wise enough to call off his agreement to a rematch with the elder Klichko as he was obviously past his prime too and got tired from boxing. All in all, I think he is quite happy with his life in retirement. Unlike Holyfield and Tyson, who still look like they have something to tell each other on the canvas, he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, and especially to these two losers (from his point of view)
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June 02, 2020, 08:16:44 AM
#93
So Lennox Lewis both beat Tyson and Holyfield? I did not see that one, I wonder where is Lennox right now.
Maybe old champions will start coming back if this even of Tyson vs Holyfield will be successful.

You seem to have missed this:



It happens that Lennox is still there and doing fine

In fact, he beat Holyfield twice, but the first bout was declared a draw. It looked liked a close fight, however Lennox would come out a winner if the judges were more impartial. The fight was in New York, and Lennox is from England while Holyfield is American, so the judges were not. The second fight made Lewis' dominance abundantly clear

My bad, I missed it, so these 3 were not already in their prime but they are still fighting, so what do we expect next, would it be possible for Lennox to fight the winner of Tyson vs Holyfield ? I think that one is going to be an exciting fight too.

These three are the Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, and Deontay Wilder of the current time.

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June 02, 2020, 06:34:00 AM
#92
So Lennox Lewis both beat Tyson and Holyfield? I did not see that one, I wonder where is Lennox right now.
Maybe old champions will start coming back if this even of Tyson vs Holyfield will be successful.

You seem to have missed this:



It happens that Lennox is still there and doing fine

In fact, he beat Holyfield twice, but the first bout was declared a draw. It looked liked a close fight, however Lennox would come out a winner if the judges were more impartial. The fight was in New York, and Lennox is from England while Holyfield is American, so the judges were not. The second fight made Lewis' dominance abundantly clear
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June 02, 2020, 05:26:32 AM
#91
You must be a boxing enthusiast or you have watch these two fought before?

I'm a little bit of both

But my favorite fight, by and large, is indeed Lennox vs Tyson. I watched it incredible number of times, and would probably watch it as much in the future. It was basically a game-over for Tyson's boxing career. Before this fight Tyson was still considered a top contender. After Lennox it became abundantly clear that Tyson's prime days in boxing were over
I've watched that fight as well, I think that was the only fight I've watch him fight live in TV, the rest of his fights mostly fights where he won, I just watched it in youtube, Lennox vs Tyson happen a long time ago, but I can still remember how Lennox dominated the fight using his length and power.

Ironically, Holyfield tried to pull off the same trick with Lennox but since Lewis' reach is one the biggest in the recorded boxing history, this tactic fell through. Lennox either clinched (his trademark for which he is not liked by many, and rightfully so) or utilized his mighty jab stopping Holyfield's head halfway

So Lennox Lewis both beat Tyson and Holyfield? I did not see that one, I wonder where is Lennox right now.
Maybe old champions will start coming back if this even of Tyson vs Holyfield will be successful.
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June 02, 2020, 04:23:02 AM
#90
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But they have been aging, we can say that those training sculpted their minds and body. As time goes, strength is getting weaker but it's interesting to see if they're still that good.
I highly doubt that we will witnessed the same intensity like they did suring their prime days. I am lowering my expecations upon this match, we all know that they're already too old for this sport — that's a hard fact. Yeah Tyson got an outstanding body build despite of his age but how about Holyfield? Okay let's assume they both achieved a good physique somehow before their fight, but what about the cardio? I reckon huge part of the fight would be jabbing and stancing.

Anyway, is this fight will happen for real Shocked? Hmm they can run a donation program instead of this jf they want lol. I can't believe it. Nevertheless, this is great because I'm also curious to see how two legendary boxers fight once again.
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June 02, 2020, 03:31:02 AM
#89
Actually, we can make a side bet for this just for fun if Tyson will make dirty plays.

Interested?

What odds do you offer if I bet on yes?  Grin

On the serious note, nah man, I don't want to put my bet on that and hopefully it's not available in sportsbook too as it's not good to see dirty tactics in the fight, both fighters will have to play clean since the purpose is very humanitarian, they should give full clean entertainment.

3 rounds of clean fight, that would be awesome to watch and I'm willing to pay for the PPV just to support the cause of this event.

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There are no objective criteria

So no matter who wins or loses, plays dirty or otherwise, there will be disagreements and arguments between the parties. You will never convince the other side about who first went for dirty tactics. Watch carefully the second Tyson vs Holyfield fight, and you will see who deliberately started playing dirty (but hid it well and always managed to get away with it), and who got punished in the end. Holyfield is not that holy as he pictures himself. His head was his third fist, and that's why he got his ear chewed off. Serves him right
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June 02, 2020, 02:33:47 AM
#88
When I was really in a big shocked when I saw the current training regime of Mike Tyson, he is achieving the body of a beast boxer like before.

The same feeling I got when I saw some of his recent videos shared even on 9gag you can find quite a lot. But now that I look at his age, actually 50+ he should still be capable of fighting a decent match.

Of course,,, this is all in training. Against younger opponents they both lose 100%.

then problem is the stamina,if they can still stand exchanging punches without losing their Breath lol.

No wonder there are oxygen ready for this two Old fighter  Grin

I am for Holyfield on this Fight if they are serious about the Game.
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June 02, 2020, 02:17:03 AM
#87
When I was really in a big shocked when I saw the current training regime of Mike Tyson, he is achieving the body of a beast boxer like before.

The same feeling I got when I saw some of his recent videos shared even on 9gag you can find quite a lot. But now that I look at his age, actually 50+ he should still be capable of fighting a decent match.

Of course,,, this is all in training. Against younger opponents they both lose 100%.
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June 02, 2020, 12:35:52 AM
#86
I think the match will not too serious as they want to help the charity, and maybe they will only play for fun to entertain people who watch their match while they will invite more people to donate their money. I guess that can collect some big cash as charities because they are the famous person in Boxing, and they have a reputation among the other.
It's still a fight, how would a non-serious fight look like?

The purpose is for charity, but they could hurt each other since this is boxing, you hit your opponent and you get hit.
We will see who will win in this event, but I think I'll bet on the underdog of the fight, don't know who is the dog here since there's no odds yet, but probably Holyfield  will be the dog as Tyson is very popular, though he was once a dirty fighter when they both met in the past.

It still a fight, but there will be no much bleeding between both Tyson and Holyfield because that is not serious fighting between them. No matter who the winner is, the purpose of that event is getting much money for the charity. We can hope there is so much money which can be used to help people in this pandemic. But maybe I will select Tyson to be the winner Grin
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June 01, 2020, 06:17:30 PM
#85

But Tyson is Tyson

While Holyfield is Holyfield. If he takes to his famous headbutts again, Tyson may take to his signature bites as well. I remember Tyson explained after that famous match why he had bitten off Holyfield's ear. The latter had been constantly hitting the former in the nose with his head during the second fight, and the judge did nothing when Tyson tried to appeal to him. The point is, it remains to be seen who is a dirtier fighter overall between them two

No offense but you might just overreacting just because of Tyson's or Holyfield's past.

Tyson's rampage is still there but I doubt he will do something dirty for a charity event. He is not even capable of doing that at his 100% as even he claims he is still on his shape, his strength is not that explosive as before. Back the time he bites Holyfield's ear, he has a grudge on him and since he already knows that time he can't defeat this guy, he does dirty play out of so much upset.

Tyson is more of a mature person now over a year. He even asks for peace with Holyfield. I doubt that was just for showmanship. He is true to his word. Their upcoming fight will be more of pure boxing technique and a clean fight. I'm sure about that.

This is definitely the fight that I like to see too, I'm sure Tyson at his age now are not into drugs or alcohol anymore, this man is a legend, he should show that to the world that even how had he is in the past, he can change and be a better person and a better boxer, better in the sense that he will obey the rules and give a clean fight, that's all we want to see to our boxers as boxing is just a sport, not a battle.

It's always good that people will remember you not being a dirty boxer as fans like a humble boxer as they set as an example especially to the young generation, so with that said, I'm with you that is always hoping and expecting that these 3 rounds of fight was all clean fight.
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June 01, 2020, 06:15:51 PM
#84
Actually, we can make a side bet for this just for fun if Tyson will make dirty plays.

Interested?

What odds do you offer if I bet on yes?  Grin

On the serious note, nah man, I don't want to put my bet on that and hopefully it's not available in sportsbook too as it's not good to see dirty tactics in the fight, both fighters will have to play clean since the purpose is very humanitarian, they should give full clean entertainment.

3 rounds of clean fight, that would be awesome to watch and I'm willing to pay for the PPV just to support the cause of this event.

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Just for clarification, the side bet is about if Tyson will make dirty plays, not who will be the winner of the bout as honestly, I don't want to put a bet on that even on the sportsbook as that will be a no title bout, literally a charity event, oldies but goodies so the hunger to win is not as the same as before. I will instead support the fight by subscribing to PPV.

Yes, to be able to gather lots of donations, they must put an interesting entertainment show, not with dirty plays. They are now living with their grandchildren too I believed that didn't able to witness their prime. That will be a disgrace if Tyson or either Holyfield will do dirty tactics to win.
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June 01, 2020, 05:53:24 PM
#83

But Tyson is Tyson

While Holyfield is Holyfield. If he takes to his famous headbutts again, Tyson may take to his signature bites as well. I remember Tyson explained after that famous match why he had bitten off Holyfield's ear. The latter had been constantly hitting the former in the nose with his head during the second fight, and the judge did nothing when Tyson tried to appeal to him. The point is, it remains to be seen who is a dirtier fighter overall between them two

No offense but you might just overreacting just because of Tyson's or Holyfield's past.

Tyson's rampage is still there but I doubt he will do something dirty for a charity event. He is not even capable of doing that at his 100% as even he claims he is still on his shape, his strength is not that explosive as before. Back the time he bites Holyfield's ear, he has a grudge on him and since he already knows that time he can't defeat this guy, he does dirty play out of so much upset.

Tyson is more of a mature person now over a year. He even asks for peace with Holyfield. I doubt that was just for showmanship. He is true to his word. Their upcoming fight will be more of pure boxing technique and a clean fight. I'm sure about that.
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June 01, 2020, 10:28:13 AM
#82
Mike Tyson looks strong and have big chance to be winner on charity fight versus Holyfield , I know how old Mike Tyson right now but he keeps take his power and stamina by working hard and always take care with his body like an athlete to get full power when fighting on the ring, although long time without get fighting in the ring Mike Tyson still have good power and experience how to beat his enemy and he has mentality to be the winner in charity fight.
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June 01, 2020, 10:13:59 AM
#81
When I was really in a big shocked when I saw the current training regime of Mike Tyson, he is achieving the body of a beast boxer like before

He is on juice

And also the current heavyweight champion which is Fury is interested to fight Mike Tyson, for me it will be a going the fight of the decade if it will happen because they will fight even if they are came from different era

That would be a mismatch of outlandish proportions

So it is never gonna happen in real life. But if we hypothetically imagine such a fight, Tyson which is Fury would easily stop Tyson which is Mike in the first round if he ever chose so. At the end of his career, which was 15 years ago, the original Tyson was defeated by mediocre boxers like Danny Williams and Kevin McBride. There is no way Tyson can fight against the best heavyweight boxers of today. That would be suicidal, plain and simple
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June 01, 2020, 10:04:46 AM
#80
When I was really in a big shocked when I saw the current training regime of Mike Tyson, he is achieving the body of a beast boxer like before. His moves is still intact so for sure that he is still has a deadly body blow and uppercut. If the charity fight will be continue between Tyson and Holyfield, I am sure that it is going to be a big fight.

And also the current heavyweight champion which is Fury is interested to fight Mike Tyson, for me it will be a going the fight of the decade if it will happen because they will fight even if they are came from different era.
But they have been aging, we can say that those training sculpted their minds and body. As time goes, strength is getting weaker but it's interesting to see if they're still that good.

It's expected that it wouldn't be the same during their glory days but it will be a big fight if they go seriously.

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June 01, 2020, 09:04:14 AM
#79
You must be a boxing enthusiast or you have watch these two fought before?

I'm a little bit of both

But my favorite fight, by and large, is indeed Lennox vs Tyson. I watched it incredible number of times, and would probably watch it as much in the future. It was basically a game-over for Tyson's boxing career. Before this fight Tyson was still considered a top contender. After Lennox it became abundantly clear that Tyson's prime days in boxing were over

Ironically, Holyfield tried to pull off the same trick with Lennox but since Lewis' reach is one the biggest in the recorded boxing history, this tactic fell through. Lennox either clinched (his trademark for which he is not liked by many, and rightfully so) or utilized his mighty jab stopping Holyfield's head halfway
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June 01, 2020, 08:05:03 AM
#78
When I was really in a big shocked when I saw the current training regime of Mike Tyson, he is achieving the body of a beast boxer like before. His moves is still intact so for sure that he is still has a deadly body blow and uppercut. If the charity fight will be continue between Tyson and Holyfield, I am sure that it is going to be a big fight.

And also the current heavyweight champion which is Fury is interested to fight Mike Tyson, for me it will be a going the fight of the decade if it will happen because they will fight even if they are came from different era.
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June 01, 2020, 07:56:46 AM
#77
But Tyson is Tyson

While Holyfield is Holyfield. If he takes to his famous headbutts again, Tyson may take to his signature bites as well.
I was still young when that fight happened, it was 1996 when these two fights so I was not able to see this fight but I just heard that Tyson bite Holyfield's ear and that was put into my mind until now, I didn't know that Holyfield was a dirty fighter too since he headbutt Tyson.

I think they already forgive each other, a lot of times has pass by and they are both retired, this fight should be no more biting and headbutting because if they will make this a controversial fight, fans may request for a rematch.  Grin Grin


I remember Tyson explained after that famous match why he had bitten off Holyfield's ear. The latter had been constantly hitting the former in the nose with his head during the second fight, and the judge did nothing when Tyson tried to appeal to him. The point is, it remains to be seen who is a dirtier fighter overall between them two


We will see in the coming fight, I got more excited now with the information you just shared.

You must be a boxing enthusiast or you have watch these two fought before?
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June 01, 2020, 04:53:29 AM
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I'm sure it's not going to happen again both men have matured and in fact are best of friends and besides this is a charity event no big money involved for both men the proceed will go to charity, so things will definitely end well for both legends it's good to see that both legends are still on their top shape

I wouldn't bet my hat on it

Lennox and Tyson were also BFF in their early boxing days, and d'ya know how it ended? In 2002 Tyson attempted to attack Lennox at a press conference, then he took to biting again. This time it was Lewis' leg. The dude is a beast, and you never know when it is going to come unleashed and attack. If anything, Holyfield should insure his ears. As they say, best friend or not, someone's gotta pay

But this is a charity game it is meant to be a friendly match, no belt is on the line here, the emotion is not that high compare on those matches, they have both matured and mellowed, they are friends for a long time now after they retired and it's not a long bout, they might even just staged it because it's for a cause

But Tyson is Tyson

While Holyfield is Holyfield. If he takes to his famous headbutts again, Tyson may take to his signature bites as well. I remember Tyson explained after that famous match why he had bitten off Holyfield's ear. The latter had been constantly hitting the former in the nose with his head during the second fight, and the judge did nothing when Tyson tried to appeal to him. The point is, it remains to be seen who is a dirtier fighter overall between them two

im not really a fan of boxing but i will support such fight because i heard this is a fight for cause  related to those who have been infected by covid

Just keep in mind that things may quickly spiral out of control and turn pretty ugly if this fight ever happens
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