Topic: Ubiatarplay scam: Let be unite to file a law case against them (Read 2191 times)

As some of you may already know, I’ve been the first one to raise some doubts regarding UbiatarPlay’s behavior, especially in the Italian forum, we’re talking about mid/end May, related to the bounty and the airdrop since a few days after I asked explanations to Francesco Raco, one of the foundrs, he blocked me on Telegram without any reason, he also attacked me on a public Italian chat saying that I insulted him and that I was a liar but, unfortunately for him, I had already sent the private conversation to the admins, so he decided to disappear, weird, eh?

During the last months things got worse and worse, UbiatarPlay people just kept lying and lying regarding everything, showing no respect for the investors or the bounty hunters , bounty hunters that have worked for 3 months, I repeat, 3 MONTHS, to get a few dollars, because they distributed a 5-10% of what they promised.

Here’s a quick recap of what happened:
- As I said they paid only 5-10% of what they promised;
- They said the old spreadsheet was wrong so it took them months to make a new one, or at lest this is what they say, and they can’t publish it because the European Union doesn’t allow them to publish the ETH wallets’ public addresses;
- In order to pay less tokens, they started saying that there were more than 20k bounty hunters in the new spreadsheet while in the old one there were less than 2k, also remember that in their Telegram chat there are only 11k people, how is it possible to have more bounty hunters than users, especially considering that to get the bounty you must join the Telegram chat?
- The number of users in the Telegram chat is fake, they bought hundreds, or thousands, of profiles, you just have to check the users list and it’s easy to spot them;
- Heavy censorship in the Telegram chat, deleted posts and users banned without any warning after they asked stuff they didn’t like;
- They manage all the bounty and airdrop problems by e-mail, in this way they think they can hide the truth from the users without posting in public;
- Fake reviews in the online stores to increase the rating of their app, one of the reviewers even has an Ubiatar logo as profile picture…
- Telegram chat with no real interest from the users, so they thought to change their own profiles and make them look like new users, very enthusiastic about the app, so they ask questions and also answer them, they’re such a losers…


Especially regarding the last point I decided to waste some time to show you how they think to be smart, considering the whole community as poor idiots, I attach you some screenshots:

Here we have 3 posts and we can read 4 different name: Chantal writes, Nina says hello calling her Giulia and Chantal replies calling her Martha!



Jennifer says hello and Chantal calls her Tony, because, in the meantime she changed sex





John Frings says hello and they reply with "Hello Anna", again, another one who changed sex…


And then John Frings/Anna becomes AnnaKate... And below you can notice a quoted post from Mirko, and they call him Peter



And now Martha, I love Martha, she’s great! Here she’s answering to Giulia, her colleague, calling her Dory:


Here she plays dumb asking how to be an avatar, and of course Chantal answers calling her Matthew, so once again, new sex…


And I think it’s a bit weird that Martha doesn’t know how to be an avatar, here she answers as Admin…


Now Martha became Danish, after changing sex she decided to change nationality as well:


And it’s weird, here she says she’s Italian,who knows, maybe the hormones confused her…



Who was Danish? From Vejle? Oh yeah, Martha! But wait, now she’s Mirko, she’s a male again?!



Another change of profile, Nina gets called as Moka



In Switzerland must be easy to find a job, one day you don’t even know what you’re talking about…


…and he next day you’re a mode, unbelievable! Congratulations Tony!



Yet another new name, Vladislav becomes Nadine, you know…



And if you still have some doubts, here’s some screenshot from a private conversation with a mod that changed name several times…





This is what they’re doing to make people (and investors) believing that there actually are people interested in this project, when in the reality nobody cares anymore about them, just to give you another number the Telegram chat loses 200 users per week.

As soon as they get quoted (if they get quoted) this token from 2 dollars will dump directly to a few cents.


So remember, these people are SCAMMERS!

Yesterday I sent a message to the Ubiatar's CEO, Francesco Raco, asking why they are faking the conversation in their Telegram chat since everybody knows that it's them, he blocked me right away and I'm banned from the chat.

These people are shit, they are a shame for the crypto world.

To all bounty participant please rate 1 star and negative feedback to this scam project

Guys, please leave 1 star rating at their 2 apps, we must damage these scammers as much as we can!

UbiatarPlay: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubiatarplay
Ubiatar: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubiatar

We must send their rating down to 1 star!




UBIATARPLAY ARE SCAMMERS!

They really think we are idiots: I've been suspecting for days that all the new people in the chat, all of them extremely enthusiastic for this shit, were the same Ubiatar's people, now we have the proofs: I took this screenshots, in the first one you can see that this Tony guy is asking the difference between the apps, how to do this, how to do that, I mean, looks like he knows zero about Ubiatar...




And then, he probably forgets to log out or change the account and welcomes a new user asking if he's trying THEIR app:




So these losers are chatting among themselves in their own chat because they know that nobody gives a shit about their app! So they fake the conversations!

I got no second reward at all! I took part at the bounty signature for 3 months, 3 MONTHS I mean, and I got no reward! They scammed us all! And looks like they refuse, again, to share the new spreadsheet!

I have received the same mail. This project is 100% scam, they don't want to pay full for participants. They didn't check anything in the past few months.

I just got 66,6 tokens instead of the 870 that were due for my job, I asked explanations by email and this is their answer:

Thank you for contacting us.

Bounty payments are over and they have been made accordingly to the requests received via email. After a careful evaluation of each job presented by the participants, the remuneration was paid at market prices.

Thank you for your cooperation,

Kind regards,
Giulia
UbiatarPlay.io

THEY ARE FUCKING SCAMMERS!! They lied to us all this time!

My friend sent a letter to the supervisory authorities (FINMA - Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority). Today he received an answer. I hope these scammers will have problems. Also letters were sent to other services.

So, I decided to take a look at Ubiatar’s Telegram chat after I read that a user was chatting with their CEO, Francesco Raco, and he told him that now the bounty hunters’ request aren’t 12k, now they have increased to 20k!!

A quick recap:
- Before the bounty hunters are 12k
- Now they are 20k
- In the Telegram chat there are less than 13k subscribers
- In the old bounty spreadsheet there were less than 2k people.

So it’s easy to see that Ubiatar and their CEO are lying to everybody, probably they think to be very smart and have a very low consideration of other people’s intelligence…

After I took a look at their Telegram subscribers I found this:




















Those of course are just a part of the screenshots, there literally are hundreds or even thousands of deleted accounts and other accounts with Southeast Asia names without profile picture. So what does it mean? It means that all those accounts are fake and have been bought in packages just to increase the number of the subscribers in the chat, so they are trying to show a lot of people interested in their project when clearly many of them are fake.

This project just gets worse day by day, SCAMMERS!!

Do you wanna speak out? Then leave 1 star here, at their rating, so maybe they wake up when they have the shittiest ranking of the whole store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubiatarplay

I think we don't have hope here like there is just few people that wanted to have transparency with the ubiatar team. And some seems don't bother about this, guys we've got scammed and they should be hearing our voices. So speak out so the team will take an action and won't belittle us.

Thank you for your suggestion and it can actually help to warn others about this team that doesn't have a palabra de honor. Well in this way we can reach more people and it can somehow affect their coin might as well their product.

Good luck to the team.

Many investors watch their behavior and their messages. Everyone sees that they are lying and want to deceive the bounty members. They do not want to answer questions and ignore them. It's scammers. 3 weeks they can not check the table))) Write a review of their product. Write that everyone knows who they are and how they deceive the people who were engaged in advertising their project
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubiatar&rdid=com.ubiatar

Haha seems the team making fun with us huh? And where the 12,000 emails came from? Maybe someone bombarded their email address. And honestly I don't belong to those 12,000 who emailed them. I don't know why they doesn't want to pay their participants like they just pay us UAC and not even eth or btc. So what's wrong with it.

Everyone who participated should voice out here. And we should give them an ultimatum.

So you are saying you have received almost 12,000 email?! Please, do you really think we're this stupid?

Without the Telegram bounty these are the numbers of the other campaigns:
- Translation: 75 users (accepted: 12)
- Signature: 265 users (accepted: 185)
- Blog and articles: 564 users (accepted: 180)
- Facebook: 632 users (accepted: 588)
- Twitter: 421 users (accepted: 376)
Total: 1957 users (accepted: 1341)

I highly doubt that all the people who took part in the Telegram campaign have sent an email, they will get 1-2 tokens maximum...

Following the numerous requests sent to the email: [email protected], we would like to point out that users who worked for the UbiatarPlay bounty program are almost 12,000.
Our team is checking the work done one by one and only at the end of this procedure we can proceed with the total payment of the amount due.
Thank you

UbiatarPlay Sa

You will have my support even though I didn't work on this bounty. I don't like any company which cheats bounty hunter in this way.

So, as per their request I sent an email to [email protected], this was my message:


And this is their answer, if we can call it this way:
So I asked an explanation and I didn't get one, I don't know what those 33.4 tokens are (coincidence, it's exactly the 5% of what I was supposed to receive) and they are thanking me for sending "all the data". Does any of you see any data there? No. What does that mean? They don't even read the emails and just copy paste a text, that's all.

I'm sure he will not answer you. He avoids such questions and gives no specific answers. It's good that the table is public. If the table was closed, they would have deceived us. Many scammers do that. They would have paid 1/20 of the promised payments and said that this is the final payment. Very well that the manager published the table. This they did not sent for bloggers payment. If they also pay them only 5% like for participants in the signature, I am sure that all deceived bloggers will write articles and shoot a video that this project is fraudulent.

Without further a do, all participants needed a transparency. And if the team doesn't want the bounty hunters mess their telegram channel then just create a channel where participants and team can communicate well. If there's nothing to hide then prove it, prove your intentions is clean so we can all be at peace.

Explain better, what are these choices? What exactly did he do wrong?

Actually to all of us the spreadsheets look quite good, with a correct ratio work done / reward, and all the final calculations reach the full amount of tokens so again, explain what's wrong and how it's possible that the data are unverifiable when everything is written in the bounty thread, week by week.

Why don't you want to solve this in a public way? Why keep separate every inquiry and problem of the bounty hunters? Why don't you want to solve this in a public and transparent way?

Can you confirm that you are going to distribute the full amount of UAC you previously promised, so 1.000.000 tokens?

UbiatarPlay SA is a company operating in the “Canton  Ticino” (Switzerland) with more than 20 employees. We are owners of the figurative trademark and name "UbiatarPlay". We distrust anyone to use and organize operations against our company.

Those responsible for illegal actions will be reported to the competent authorities.


The bounty program was played according to some choices of the bounty manager not shared with Ubiatarplay Sa.

A spreadsheet has been issued without the permission of Ubiatarplay with incorrect, unverifiable and disproportionate data.

We are trying to solve problems on a case-by-case basis.

All work will be paid.

The official channel of UbiatarPlay project is: t.me/ubiatarplay

Our team is avaialble for any information

They don't answer because there are no real answers, all just are excuses. For once and for all, why they don't just tell that they won't pay us. Period. No more alibis and just face the consequences that they made. Like actually we're going nowhere with this kind of attitude. Shame on them.

Are you guys in the Telegram chat? They keep hiding themselves behind the "mistakes" of the old bounty manager (of course they don't say exactly what these mistakes are) and, this is ridiculous, they say they can't publish the new spreadsheets due to "privacy reasons". A guy asked what these reasons are and they answered again "for privacy reasons we can not publish data", so they really are like bots!

And this is maybe the funniest part, that guy then asked how it's possible that they have to keep safe those personal info if there was NO KYC process, so they have no info at all of the bounty hunters, and than replied the CEO, with these words, this is his very answer:
thanks for the advice but you have no responsibility in our company.
the chat is made to talk about the project and the ubiatarplay initiatives.
we are handling the emails concerning the bounty disputes.
with a large community this is normal.
now I beg you to be patient and you will also be given an answer.
do not continue to be insistent.
thank you

So again, they don't answer and they imply that if you keep asking you're gonna be banned. Disgusting behavior, these people are very shady!

We can file complaints with these bodies. It will be bad for their reputation

I and my friends are ready to write complaints to these bodies if they deceive us

May I ask what kind of lawsuit do you intend on filing? Because I don't think you have a lot of options to begin with, first their is the part where you are only asking for a recovery of damages in your part for the payment being short. To tell you honestly I don't think it is a good idea as you will spend more on filing a lawsuit compared to the bounty which you will have receive, if in any other way you can retrieve it the best thing would be settling it outside the court room which I think is the most realistic way. 

UPDATE (positive news),
they are trying to solve the problem by email.
they could have thought of it before but at least this shows their good intentions.

I do confirm that I have received only 5% of tokens - 120 instead of 2400. More and more projects change their payment amounts, but somehow it happens exactly during the stake counting. This 95% decrease is quite funny because they already decreased the total amount by 28% earlier.
They will not publish the spreadsheets because "there is private data". There was no "private data" before.

Ubiatarplay is on of the top notch project. I was very impressed and supported them through signature campaign. But I can understand why they are doing like this.
I hope we should have a contact with them before taking any hard step.

Supporting you.

I think all participants should invoke their rights because we've been deceive by the team and the fact their kicking out those who accuse them as scam in telegram means they're too guilty and can't withstand it. And even we email them it will be just useless and waste of time and I think we've been so weak and we can't do anything about this if we're just silently waiting.

Problem is, they have sent only 5% of the actual amount. To all signature campaign members. This is completely unethical first announce that 1M bounty and after completion of ICO cut reward by 95%.

Community manager of their official group is even worse. He/she is deleting everyone who's complaining that they got only 5%.

I tried to email, contact them on Twitter no reply.

So don't have any other option. Eidoo did same with me now this ubiatarplay. It seems like every project managed by Eidoo is trained to execute bounty scam.

They are also not making updated sheet public due to security concerns. What security they want, every project put their final bounty sheet on bitcointalk. The issue is with their intentions.

Instead of replying, their founder members are banning ppl on fb as well who asked anything about bounty.

I will keep posted here on updates from them.

I don't think that filling out a complaint with the SEC can be very useful. Ubiatar is a European company, based in Switzerland. Even if the SEC usually, when required, carries out its actions all over the world, if I remember correctly this ICO wasn't opened to American investors.

If we as bounty hunters want to report to the regulator, maybe is better to report the fact to the:

1. FINMA - Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority

This is the main site: https://www.finma.ch/en

2. ESMA - European Security and Market Authority

This is the main site: https://www.esma.europa.eu/

on the upper right there is the link to the page: "file a complaint":  https://www.esma.europa.eu/investor-corner/file-complaint

From the page:


But let's see before what happens since they have yet to start distribution for the content creation bounty and the translation one. And especially for the articles and blogs one, there are bloggers and small or big influencers who have taken part to the bounty: and if they are angry for the reward, they surely can delete the articles they have written about Ubiatar in the first place, and then write a new article explaining how they had been scammed in this bounty! It would not be a good advertising for them I imagine  

By the way, they told us that the distribution is still going on, so I hope the mess will be fixed!

The matter is that they are postponing every answer. continuing to gain time and procrastinating, there is not a new spreadsheet, there is no "previous admin" who covers the official clothes and who gives an institutional message, they put Raffealla to procrastinate indefinitely. however, the EIDOO team has already been informed.

-no new spreadsheet.
-always refer you to a "wait" or to write to an email ..
-the CEO and all the institutional components of the team seem to being evaporated.
-they are trying to move the conversation subject always suggesting you try the App
-they ATM uses to ban and censor regularly anyone who asks legitimate questions.

it's really sad for me reading this thread.

I've followed ubiatarplay and i was pretty close to join their bounty. I think i was just lucky.

I really hope that you can have to they promised to you....especially becouse the ico hasn't went bad.

Now there are a lot of fraudulent projects and this is one of them. Again, the members of the bounty were deceived.
Link to their ANN branch
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ubiatar-airdrop-ico-cryptocurrency-to-be-everywhere-3034907
Bounty
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyubiatarplay-cryptocurrency-to-be-everywhere-bounty-3099938
account of their manager
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ubiatarteam-1889869
In the conditions it was written that they allocated 1 million tokens for bounty members.
After completion of the ICO, the manager made calculations and provided table
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yEQ09u_0SL0sxq_UOLEXZSg2CqKLFyW6l-WrpEanraM/edit#gid=144729219
But the bounty members received only 5% of the promised amount. Look at any wallet and see that all received only 1/20. The team blocks the participants in the telegram.
We as members of the bounty can not do anything. I suggest writing in their social networks that the project is scam, so that investors can see it. I also suggest writing them to partners so that they know that they are working with scammers. You can also leave your feedback here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubiatar&rdid=com.ubiatar
It is also possible; it is necessary to write in SEC.
https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
https://www.sec.gov/tcr
I wrote
Write to their founders in Facebook that they are scammers.
https://www.facebook.com/FirstFounder
https://www.facebook.com/francesco.raco.76
https://www.facebook.com/GittoMariaElena
Perhaps you have opinions that we can do more ?!

https://t.me/joinchat/FodyEg0HfNDYM73nFpJGdg
group where we discuss these scammers

Ubitarplay is not a scam from pov of an operating company.

Yeah they have cheated their bounty participants by not giving them what they deserve.
They kept changing the rules, i was closely monitoring this but now it seems that participants have gone rebel.

Im supporting you, lets burn this scam project ubiatar to the ground, spread the word and also this thread to social media network

Hi guys,

Ubiatarplay is making a fun of its bounty team. They are paying only 5% of the bounty budget. No communication from the team, no clarification even.
Lets be unite and file a law case against this fraud company, We have a plan if you are victim of the same connect us on the telegram group:

This is a bounty project which cheated many legendry/hero ,memebrs in signature campaign. Join us and prepare for legal process against them.