UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 201.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on April 21, 2023, 12:31:05 PM

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Both Real Madrid and Manchester City are the best teams. In fact, we expect to see the semi-finals of these two teams in an exciting manner with great joy. I can't predict for sure which team will win because I consider both the teams to have the best experience.

I don't want to sound disrespectful, but there is a huge amount of luck involved, that both clubs of Milan are now in the semi-final of the Champions League. I mean this basically only happened, because the 4 teams that were definitely the weakest ones of the teams that were in the quarterfinal were all playing against each other. I think that every team of the other bracket including FC Chelsea would be the big favourite against any team from the other Bracket that consisted of the Milan clubs, Benfica and Napoli.
So to get this kind of draw only happens once in 20 years or so. Therefore the Italian clubs should enjoy this because it probably won't happen so soon again.

In as much as other smaller but strong clubs are getting qualified for the semi-finals of the champions league, there is no gain in saying that some of them will make it to the finals since the champion leagues just got to it knock out stage and the two clubs with the potential to reach the finals will be Manchester City and Real Madrid even though both if they have been underperforming lately.
But if clubs like Barcelona could come up then we can also predict a few possibilities from their angle, because Baca has also shown a lot of positive results lately to qualify them for the top 3 in the Champions League.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on April 21, 2023, 12:06:49 PM

Both Real Madrid and Manchester City are the best teams. In fact, we expect to see the semi-finals of these two teams in an exciting manner with great joy. I can't predict for sure which team will win because I consider both the teams to have the best experience.

I don't want to sound disrespectful, but there is a huge amount of luck involved, that both clubs of Milan are now in the semi-final of the Champions League. I mean this basically only happened, because the 4 teams that were definitely the weakest ones of the teams that were in the quarterfinal were all playing against each other. I think that every team of the other bracket including FC Chelsea would be the big favorite against any team from the other Bracket that consisted of the Milan clubs, Benfica and Napoli.
So to get this kind of draw only happens once in 20 years or so. Therefore the italian clubs should enjoy this, because it probably won't happen so soon again.

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Quote from: bering on April 21, 2023, 11:41:10 AM

According to Real Madrid records from european competitions champion league and europa league so far they had reach to semifinal matches 32 times and this is the highest records if we compared to other teams in europa so this proven Real Madrid has ruler europe and probably their records cannot be pursuing by other teams and from it we can see Real Madrid is the strongest team in this competition especially Real Madrid has collect 15 champion league title

I wouldn't underestimate Manchester City and Real Madrid because these team had equal chances to advance to the final match and so far Real Madrid is the toughest team that Manchester City will faced and if Manchester City can able to overcomes Real Madrid i think certainly they will being an the champion of this competition because final match will be more easy for them because only faced Inter or Milan which is in the term of consistency Manchester City is more better

In terms of quality and consistency, it cannot be denied that Manchester City is much better than Real Madrid this season, but mentally on the Champions League stage, Real Madrid is the most difficult team to beat because they are the kings of Europe who have won the most UCL trophies.
this is very difficult to predict and of course the semifinal match between Real Madrid vs Manchester City is very fierce compared to the Inter Milan vs AC Milan semi-final pot.

I am a Real Madrid fan but this season I will bet on Manchester City to qualify for the final, I see this realistically that Manchester City's performance this season has been amazing, they are very solid on all fronts and I think after a long wait Manchester City deserve to be able to win the UCL this season.

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Quote from: Distraction on April 21, 2023, 11:52:38 AM

It doesn't feel like there is any defense line that can stop Haaland at the moment. Bayern Munich had really young and skilled defenders like de Ligt and Upamecano for example.

But things went sideways a lot for them anyway. Especially Upamecano was a big disappointment for his team in both legs with bad defending. He isn't very experienced in this atmosphere maybe but he still could have played as good as de Ligt at least. There was an Alaba - Militao duo for Real Madrid in both matches against Chelsea. Maybe they finished the matchup by keeping a clean sheet. However Chelsea and Manchester City are totally different teams right now. I think this duo will have a really hard time defending Haaland. I expect Haaland to score in both matches against them and Manchester City to advance to the finale too.

Both Real Madrid and Manchester City are the best teams. In fact, we expect to see the semi-finals of these two teams in an exciting manner with great joy. I can't predict for sure which team will win because I consider both the teams to have the best experience.

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It doesn't feel like there is any defense line that can stop Haaland at the moment. Bayern Munich had really young and skilled defenders like de Ligt and Upamecano for example.

But things went sideways a lot for them anyway. Especially Upamecano was a big disappointment for his team in both legs with bad defending. He isn't very experienced in this atmosphere maybe but he still could have played as good as de Ligt at least. There was an Alaba - Militao duo for Real Madrid in both matches against Chelsea. Maybe they finished the matchup by keeping a clean sheet. However Chelsea and Manchester City are totally different teams right now. I think this duo will have a really hard time defending Haaland. I expect Haaland to score in both matches against them and Manchester City to advance to the finale too.

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Quote from: fzkto on April 21, 2023, 11:17:34 AM

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Real Madrid will win this year again, they have the squad, Manchestercity don't have much champions league experience. it will be tough game but Real madrid will qualify at the end. whosever qualify will lift the tiitle. Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

I also think Real Madrid will win this season. But I don't agree that Manchester City have a worse squad. They have great results this year, but as you said, Real have more experience in the Champions League. It will still be very difficult for them to beat Manchester City, especially away.

According to Real Madrid records from european competitions champion league and europa league so far they had reach to semifinal matches 32 times and this is the highest records if we compared to other teams in europa so this proven Real Madrid has ruler europe and probably their records cannot be pursuing by other teams and from it we can see Real Madrid is the strongest team in this competition especially Real Madrid has collect 15 champion league title

I wouldn't underestimate Manchester City and Real Madrid because these team had equal chances to advance to the final match and so far Real Madrid is the toughest team that Manchester City will faced and if Manchester City can able to overcomes Real Madrid i think certainly they will being an the champion of this competition because final match will be more easy for them because only faced Inter or Milan which is in the term of consistency Manchester City is more better

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Quote from: klidex on April 21, 2023, 10:06:13 AM

Real madrid is very experienced in this championship league and in my opinion manchester city is too early to become champions of the champions league while real madrid's performance is superior to manchester city.
We can see the performance of these two clubs and we compare them as a whole, what we can get is that Real Madrid's attack pattern is more frightening than Manchester City.[/left]

It's not about the team was too early or not to win UCL. The problem is how competence the squad that owned by the club. As far as i can see that if the most potential club to win UCL was on the realmadrid/manchester city. It's caused by these team have solid performance during UCL. Real madrid was always able winning the match with perfect result while manchester city is always making so many goels when it was facing its opponent in UCL. This is my principal anxiety when it comes to the probability of the club securing UCL right now.

Manchester city and real madrid have very deep squads at this moment. Real Madrid assembled their best striker with numerous world class players while Manchester City brought their own striker, a goal machine for Manchester City. Remember that the epic match between real madrid vs city last season. Im thinking about that epic match will be repeating at this moment.
Pep is always be careful when the club was facing real madrid. Real madrid is a club with surprises that can make comeback even when the match was almost end.
Ancelotti is already familiar with manchester city's strategy.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 21, 2023, 05:56:20 AM

Real Madrid will win this year again, they have the squad, Manchestercity don't have much champions league experience. it will be tough game but Real madrid will qualify at the end. whosever qualify will lift the tiitle. Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

I also think Real Madrid will win this season. But I don't agree that Manchester City have a worse squad. They have great results this year, but as you said, Real have more experience in the Champions League. It will still be very difficult for them to beat Manchester City, especially away.

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Milan's odd is even less than Inter for the Champions League title now. However there isn't a big difference as well. I mean the gap is only 1.00. Bookmakers are also waiting for a close matchup like me. Maybe I expect Milan to advance but their job won't still be easy. Because you all remember how they eliminated Napoli in the latest round. To tell the truth, Napoli were better playing side in both legs but they still couldn't make the comeback needed. I understand the first leg as there wasn't Osimhen. But still nothing changed after he returned for the rematch as well.

Milan and Inter played really competitive matches against each other in the Serie A this season. I think they will both carry the same ambition to the Champions League as well. But if Milan can find a way to eliminate a strong Napoli then they can do it against Inter too in my opinion.

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Quote from: terrorJR on April 21, 2023, 08:53:54 AM

Look at last season too isn't it like that? I think the current conditions are still the same because Manchester City certainly have a lot of favorites in this regard.
But on the other hand, of course, this doesn't only reflect on current performance because of luck and how strategy is also important, especially now it's quite clear that Madrid's condition is also still focusing on this semi-final.

This season may be very different from last season because last year's conditions are not always the same as the conditions of the two teams this season. I even see that Manchester City have been much stronger this season than last season so that Real Madrid will have a little difficulty in facing Manchester City this season because of the different strength factor. And as for the luck factor, I can't say anything about it because it's beyond reason.

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Quote from: rendravolt on April 21, 2023, 09:39:10 AM

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For manchester city against Real Madrid it will be a replay of last season, the two meet in the same round and I think if manchester city wants to win then they have to be at least 5-0 on aggregate in the first leg because we know Real Madrid with a winning mentality and strength His comeback always brings the team back from England. However, if Manchester City only leads by a narrow aggregate point in the first leg, then their chances of getting rid of Real Madrid are very difficult.

I think to win 5-0 seems difficult for Manchester City, because Ancelotti can definitely find a way to survive in the first leg, but does not rule out the possibility Manchester City can do it because they have a pretty tough squad there. But yes, if Manchester City wants to qualify for the finals they must to win with a big score, because Real Madrid is the king of comebacks, previously last season Manchester city could win at home but with a narrow score, so this time Manchester City must be able to win with a big score and must without conceding a goal like their previous game against Bayern Munich at Etihad.

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Quote from: Strongkored on April 21, 2023, 09:19:22 AM

I had read about this but ignored it until I read back from your post, and it's sad enough that an injury has prevented him from becoming a champion league winner if his club can become a champion, it's quite unfortunate, isn't it? great player and played in many big clubs but never lifted a trophy from the most prestigious tournament, moreover he is already 41 years old and not only in the champions league but in competitions between countries he does not have a good record because his country is not one of the best in Europe or in the world in terms of football.

Many favored Real Madrid and also Manchester City because they saw that their journey to the semifinals was fairly good compared to the two teams from the city of Milan, it didn't go smoothly, but there could be surprises because football is always full of surprises where between Madrid or City who go to the final but lose from one of the clubs from Serie A, but still this time to early to say who are the winner

in his favorite Real Madrid and also Manchester City to win the UCL this season is quite logical in my opinion because the quality of their team is better than Inter Milan or AC Milan.
but apart from that, all the possibilities and surprises are still very possible to happen in the final, as we all know the most prestigious competition on the blue continent surprises often occur.

and the success of getting one of Italy's representatives into the UCL final this season has made the Serie A teams count again and this indicates that the Serie A teams have started to rise.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 21, 2023, 05:56:20 AM

Real Madrid will win this year again, they have the squad, Manchestercity don't have much champions league experience. it will be tough game but Real madrid will qualify at the end. whosever qualify will lift the tiitle. Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

Let's talk about real madrid who are ready to be victorious again in the champions league.
Real madrid is very experienced in this championship league and in my opinion manchester city is too early to become champions of the champions league while real madrid's performance is superior to manchester city.
We can see the performance of these two clubs and we compare them as a whole, what we can get is that Real Madrid's attack pattern is more frightening than Manchester City.

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Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

They will make a first Derby Milan in Champions League after 18 years that are so long.

One more interesting thing that I did not see people discussed is Ibrahimovic will not be recorded as winning Champions League even if AC Milan win it. Life is like a joke for Ibrahimovic and he might never have chance to lift the Champions League trophy. From Inter Milan to Barcelona and maybe this time AC Milan, his destiny is not sweetie with Champions League.

I had read about this but ignored it until I read back from your post, and it's sad enough that an injury has prevented him from becoming a champion league winner if his club can become a champion, it's quite unfortunate, isn't it? great player and played in many big clubs but never lifted a trophy from the most prestigious tournament, moreover he is already 41 years old and not only in the champions league but in competitions between countries he does not have a good record because his country is not one of the best in Europe or in the world in terms of football.

Many favored Real Madrid and also Manchester City because they saw that their journey to the semifinals was fairly good compared to the two teams from the city of Milan, it didn't go smoothly, but there could be surprises because football is always full of surprises where between Madrid or City who go to the final but lose from one of the clubs from Serie A, but still this time to early to say who are the winner

Real Madrid got so much hope in the champions league and they need to win this game against Manchester City or any other team but the problem in the other Manchester City's performance in the champions league during this season was really amazing and they won the game against Bayern Munich with perfect results which can be a danger for Ancelotti and his players.

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Talking about this even last season we didn't think it was like that but in the end they had to lose because their confidence was high.
The opponent they will now face in the semi-finals is Real Madrid, we know that the mentality of the Madrid champions is very strong with a good enough fighting power especially for the final minutes which have always been the key to their game.

Even though at this time Haaland has appeared extraordinary in the attack on Manchester City, if they are the same as last season with too much confidence then this is indeed still a bit of a problem, because of course Madrid is not an opponent that can be underestimated.

I think that the one that should not be underestimated here is Real Madrid, because it is a very complete team, plus we all know that Haaland is the star here at City, obviously he is Pep's secret weapon, but Ancelotti is a very skilled technical director , intelligent and a Madridista at heart, he will know what defenses to put on him that he will not have freedom of anything, of that they can be sure, now, the problem here will be for City how to stop Benzema and Vinicius? on the other hand to Modric, this is something that has to be seen from the most valuable point of view.

This is what must be realized.
Last season, Manchester City were eliminated from the Champions League. One of the biggest reasons was that they were too complacent with the aggregate they had.
But in the end, even though last season their performance was very good and their players were also great, they had to end up losing.
Now it would be very reckless if they still think that Madrid is below them, especially now that Madrid's focus is clearer for the Champions League and of course we also must not forget that Madrid are the defending champions for the Champions League.

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Quote from: Uruhara on April 21, 2023, 06:01:51 AM

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Real Madrid will win this year again, they have the squad, Manchestercity don't have much champions league experience. it will be tough game but Real madrid will qualify at the end. whosever qualify will lift the tiitle. Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

After seeing how Benfica and Napoli could be eliminated from the Champions League. So I think anything can still happen in the semi-final. Even Man City's victory against Bayern is also quite surprising. so it could be that the Man city vs Real Madrid match will be a quite surprising match. But I agree about Real Madrid being much more experienced and also stronger mentally. But Man City this season has been absolutely amazing. they are consistent in almost all competitions not only in the Champions League. So this season could be different from last season. last season man city was eliminated in the semi-finals. But maybe this season will be different.

Indeed, if we look at the results of several quarter-final matches, the favored teams to advance to the semifinals of Napoli and Benfica were eliminated. However, as a team that has more experience in the Champions League, Milan and Inter really deserve a ticket to the semifinals.

For manchester city against Real Madrid it will be a replay of last season, the two meet in the same round and I think if manchester city wants to win then they have to be at least 5-0 on aggregate in the first leg because we know Real Madrid with a winning mentality and strength His comeback always brings the team back from England. However, if Manchester City only leads by a narrow aggregate point in the first leg, then their chances of getting rid of Real Madrid are very difficult.

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The problem remains the same, depending on how mentally prepared they are at the moment.
As long as Manchester City are still not good from a mental standpoint against Madrid, no matter how good their squad is, they will still not be fine because they have lost mentally.
On the other hand, don't forget Madrid, which has always been one of the clubs that always has its own impression for the matches they live, which of course this will be troublesome, especially with the last 10 minutes which have always been their secret weapon.

On the other hand for the next bracket we will also see an interesting derby there because Milan and Inter are definitely fun to watch.

If you look at the mental maturity of the players from these two teams, between Manchester City and Real Madrid, in my opinion, Manchester City is superior to Real Madrid, and if you pay attention to the respective leagues between these two teams, Manchester City is showing better performance. and consistent in his wins while Real Madrid is not like that even though sometimes they are lions in their matches but he doesn't get it consistently.
But I myself can't decide which one is better because these two teams are giants in their respective leagues and are both temporarily ranked second in their league today.

Regarding Ac Milan and Inter Milan, I think they are playing like in their own league, namely Serie A, but it looks like they are in the Champions League semi-finals and it is indeed very interesting to watch, I think just watching will be boring, why not bet on these two matches, bro? .

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For the Champions League, it is clear that from a mental point of view, Madrid is better if we reflect on the conditions under which the previous seasons occurred.
Let's take an example for last season because indeed looking at all the conditions, last season there was a very visible difference in the mentality of the two teams when they played.
In terms of confidence Manchester City is better, I admit that but their confidence is too big and it was immediately broken by Madrid in the last 10 minutes which knocked them out at that time.

Things like this are still possible for now if Madrid don't really make their conditions much better in terms of mentality because indeed from the performance of the two teams we don't need to question that because clearly they are the 2 best clubs in the high domestic league.

Talking about Milan and Inter, the chances are even more terrifying. We know their history when several decades ago there was an interesting impression when they were in the quarter final of the Champions League, which at that time was full of enthusiasm and really felt like a derby.
Even if things are a bit off now for something like this, but of course we expect something interesting for the Milan Derby in this semi-final.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on April 21, 2023, 08:54:23 AM

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Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

They will make a first Derby Milan in Champions League after 18 years that are so long.

One more interesting thing that I did not see people discussed is Ibrahimovic will not be recorded as winning Champions League even if AC Milan win it. Life is like a joke for Ibrahimovic and he might never have chance to lift the Champions League trophy. From Inter Milan to Barcelona and maybe this time AC Milan, his destiny is not sweetie with Champions League.

I had read about this but ignored it until I read back from your post, and it's sad enough that an injury has prevented him from becoming a champion league winner if his club can become a champion, it's quite unfortunate, isn't it? great player and played in many big clubs but never lifted a trophy from the most prestigious tournament, moreover he is already 41 years old and not only in the champions league but in competitions between countries he does not have a good record because his country is not one of the best in Europe or in the world in terms of football.

Many favored Real Madrid and also Manchester City because they saw that their journey to the semifinals was fairly good compared to the two teams from the city of Milan, it didn't go smoothly, but there could be surprises because football is always full of surprises where between Madrid or City who go to the final but lose from one of the clubs from Serie A, but still this time to early to say who are the winner

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Quote from: skarais on April 20, 2023, 01:37:46 PM

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Making it to the semifinals is not completely safe for Manchester City because in the semi-finals Real Madrid is the opponent they will face.
Let's analyze a little about who will qualify for the final between Real Madrid and Manchester City.

Manchester City's best achievement in the Champions League is runner up in the 2020/2021 season.
At that time Manchester City lost against Chelsea with a score of 0-1 and the only Chelsea winning goal was scored by Kai Havertz in the 42nd minute.
Manchester City's Journey Prior to reaching the final, the club coached by Pep at that time were in group C with Porto which qualified for the round of 16 and in that round Man City managed to beat Borussia Monchengladbach 4-0 on aggregate.

Continue to the final quartel round. In this round, Manchester City also had to go through a challenge against Bundesliga representatives, namely Dortmund.
Pep's team worked hard to beat them 2-4 on aggregate.
Likewise, in the semifinals Manchester City managed to enter the final with a convincing aggregate goal over PSG.

This season, Pep Guardiola has a bigger chance to present the UCL trophy even though their opponent is Real Madrid.
This time Real Madrid, in my opinion, will recognize the strength of Pep Guardiola's team even though their history is superior.
I feel that European football is no longer in favor of Real Madrid with various considerations.

Regarding the semifinal match between Real Madrid vs Manchester City, of course we all cannot draw clear conclusions as to who will qualify for the final. This is a very sensational semifinal because Manchester City, who are struggling to win their first Champions League trophy, are challenged by a team that incidentally is the king of the Champions League, Real Madrid. So for sure this has to be the best semifinal as expected.

I personally support Manchester City's quest for a first title, but I really don't believe Pep Guardiola can convince his team to perform carefree. Real Madrid are a very experienced team compared to passionate Manchester City, so of course the mentality of the two teams is very different. Pep also really wants to make history for Manchester City at Champions League, so he really needs to be able to make his team play well in the two semi-final legs this season.

That's right skarais. Real Madrid vs Manchester City is a sensational semifinal because one of them makes it to the final and wins the Champions League trophy will get a new history.
If it were Real Madrid, then Los Blancos would be the only club that would not be able to equal the record for most UCL titles of all time.
If Manchester City manages to do this, it will be history for the first time they have won the Champions League.
Even though I am not a supporter of either team, I hope this season belongs to Manchester City.

So is AC Milan vs Inter Milan which includes an interesting semifinal to look forward to the final result.
The semi-finals of the two teams from Milan are unique because of their respective histories.
If Inter Milan manages to beat AC Milan, then this will be the final that the Nerazzurri will remember after the 2009/2010 season when they last won against Bayer Munchen. And at that time Inter was very great under coach Jose Mourinho.
As I recall, that season was the history of the Inter treble winner.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on April 21, 2023, 05:56:20 AM

Real Madrid will win this year again, they have the squad, Manchestercity don't have much champions league experience. it will be tough game but Real madrid will qualify at the end. whosever qualify will lift the tiitle.

Do you think it is too soon to award the title to Real Madrid. They will have to meet a very strong team, Manchester City and I see Real Madrid are more experienced than Manchester City but it is not fair to say they are stronger than Manchester City.

This semi final pair is hard to predict the winner. In the past season, it is Real Madrid but will they repeat it this season?

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Ac milan and Inter milan has shown that italian football is improving rapidly.

They will make a first Derby Milan in Champions League after 18 years that are so long.

One more interesting thing that I did not see people discussed is Ibrahimovic will not be recorded as winning Champions League even if AC Milan win it. Life is like a joke for Ibrahimovic and he might never have chance to lift the Champions League trophy. From Inter Milan to Barcelona and maybe this time AC Milan, his destiny is not sweetie with Champions League.

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