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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on May 30, 2023, 04:53:58 AM

There are so many things that can change anytime before the match will be starting.

- Line up
- Strategy

The fact that if the final line up for manchester city is quite easy to predict compared with intermilan. it's caused by once simeone was changing the striker and he will be also changing the mechanism that used by the club.
I wonder what line up that already planned by simeone. Some reporters were asking him but he was not giving answer or even clue related to the future line up.

That's why the match against manchester city is very hard to predict. I do agree with you. Betting before the final will be starting was right.

Simeone Inzaghi does not have too many choices to choose from tactics to players for his squad or in substitutions. Inter Milan don't have too deep squad like Manchester City and for example at a striker position, they only have two players to replace each other: Lukaku and Dzeko.

In tactics, they don't have too many options like Manchester City. First of all they don't use too many tactics and are too flexible with tactics like Manchester City. Secondly, when facing against Manchester City, they don't have too many good options in tactics to choose.

With Inter Milan and Simeone Inzaghi, if one of their players get injured and miss the final match, they will likely lose big part of their strength.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 30, 2023, 03:10:04 AM

I do not bet on matches from far time, I mean I place bet on the same day of the match. Just 1 hr to the match so that I will be sure of the availability of players, weather condition, formation of the coach and more.
So, on the day of the finals, I will bet Manchester City to win and my stake will be very high. I don't want to know how Inter Milan will do the wonders, but the City team that I have witnessed this season will take Inter Milan down even in the first half of the finals.

There are so many things that can change anytime before the match will be starting.

- Line up
- Strategy

The fact that if the final line up for manchester city is quite easy to predict compared with intermilan. it's caused by once simeone was changing the striker and he will be also changing the mechanism that used by the club.
I wonder what line up that already planned by simeone. Some reporters were asking him but he was not giving answer or even clue related to the future line up.

That's why the match against manchester city is very hard to predict. I do agree with you. Betting before the final will be starting was right.

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As much as I want to buy this idea I still find it difficult to agree that this philosophy will have an impact on the result of this season's final game between Manchester City and Inter Milan, with or without a Croatian player on either team the best team of the day will conquer the day and if Manchester City decide to underestimate Inter Milan they might be in for a shock.

As one of the most prestigious inter-club competitions in Europe, the Champions League never seems to run out of stories. Previously, no club was able to win the Champions League in two consecutive seasons or the defending champion always failed to defend the title in the following season, this myth has been broken by Real Madrid after successfully defending the Champions League title for three consecutive years.

The myth of a team that always wins the Champions League with 1 Croatian player in their team has continued for at least the last 10 years, Inter have the advantage in the Final this time because they have at least 1 Croatian player. This myth might be solved in this season's final, Manchester City went to the Final with great enthusiasm after beating Real Madrid, Manchester City is also equipped with a better squad compared to Inter. This final is very important for Manchester City and Guardiola, there is no reason to underestimate Inter quality even though Manchester City is superior to Inter.

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Quote from: Grim_Fandango on May 29, 2023, 08:34:52 AM

Inter Milan has one big advantage over Manchester City and that is that they have Croatian player in their team.

I don't know if people know but last 10 Champions League winners all had at least 1 Croatian player in their team and it will be interesting to see if that tradition continues this year as well.

2013 Bayern won with Mandzukic
2014 Real won with Modric
2015 Barcelona won with Rakitic
2016 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2017 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2018 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2019 Liverpool won with Lovren
2020 Bayern with Perisic
2021 Chelsea won with Kovacic
2022 Real won with Modric
2023?

As much as I want to buy this idea I still find it difficult to agree that this philosophy will have an impact on the result of this season's final game between Manchester City and Inter Milan, with or without a Croatian player on either team the best team of the day will conquer the day and if Manchester City decide to underestimate Inter Milan they might be in for a shock.

The odds are obviously high in favour of the English club, but I am sure that Pep Guardiola would not use that as a gauge of how this would turn out. Like what I know him for, all matches are to be played as if it's the last one ever, so I believe underestimating the Italian team can't be part of his thought right now. How to play more and be impressive on the pitch would be his target, and thankfully, he has a better team and the many youngsters over there would be desperate to write the winning in their Bios, so I trust that they will give their best on that day. Less than 2 weeks now and it's still counting, I am patiently waiting...

have bet on Inter Milan to win this game, i don't know how am feeling about it. Manchester city and Pep Guardiola could be disappointed in the final, they will lose it, Inter Milan is not a team to undermine in this game , they had champions league tittle in their gallery, something Manchester city doesnt have, that confidence alone is enough for inter Milan, no doubt Manchester city are in good form Right away and are favourite for the title after eliminated bayern munich and Real Madrid, that alone gave them advantage over Inter Milan. but this is final game, both team are equal and are ready to win.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 30, 2023, 03:34:32 AM

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I think very few people expect inter to get the title and that's because man city is very strong right now and can destroy any club easily, but this is a final and inter is not a bad team and they can surprise the oppenet with a goal anytime so man city defence should be very careful

Because Manchester city has destroyed the strongest teams in the UCL, namely Munich and Madrid, so for Manchester city, on paper, against Intermilan is not a complicated opponent. Guardiola is a smart coach, of course he has prepared strategies and tactics to be able to win the UCL final match later, at least the target is to reached the Treble winner achieved in this season.

I am also very confident that Manchester City can beat Inter Milan without pity, I bet on Manchester City in the final and I know most people will bet on Manchester City, my prediction is 3 - 0 to win Manchester City.

that makes a lot of sense and also if you look at the overall performance of the two teams this season, of course, on paper, Manchester City is very favorite to win the UCL final this season and you can even say Manchester City will win this match easily, that's if we look at the facts of the two ti throughout this season.
but I remember that this is the UCL final of the highest competition in Europe, anything can happen and many surprises have been created in UCL history, therefore in this final there should not be a team that is too favored and underestimated, even though in terms of the quality of Manchester City is superior to Inter Milan but I think Manchester City still have to play carefully, if they are too tall then it is not impossible that failure will befall this team again this season.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 30, 2023, 03:19:46 AM

When a team plays full defense, it is very difficult for the opposition to score and save goals. It is difficult to save a goal because the opposing team will be attacking as well as defending, so most of the players of the attacking team will leave their defense and move into the opponent's defense. Then if the defensive playing team can make a good counter attack then the chances of scoring are very high for the defensive playing team. This is undoubtedly a big concern for Pep Guardiola. If a team falls behind early in the UCL final, it will be very difficult for that team to come back later.

Playing defensive is very stressful and a whole team must cooperate well as a system to block attacks from opponent. It is never easy to play defensive against a very strongly attacking opponent which are exactly Manchester City in the final match.

Inter Milan have very good players who can help them to switch their mode quickly from defensive to attacking but before they can find their chances with counter attacking, their defense system must be strong and avoid conceded goals. If Inter Milan let Manchester City score first, they will have to play attacking against Manchester City that is never good for them.

Manchester City with one leading goal and their flexible system, can exploit Inter Milan defense and expand the gap. So the key task for Inter Milan is avoiding conceded goal at last after a first half and better within half of a second half. If they succeed with defense like this, they will have chance when Manchester City become impatient and show more space for Inter Milan to exploit with counter attacking.

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Quote from: Prince Malik on May 29, 2023, 06:56:34 PM

I think very few people expect inter to get the title and that's because man city is very strong right now and can destroy any club easily, but this is a final and inter is not a bad team and they can surprise the oppenet with a goal anytime so man city defence should be very careful

Because Manchester city has destroyed the strongest teams in the UCL, namely Munich and Madrid, so for Manchester city, on paper, against Intermilan is not a complicated opponent. Guardiola is a smart coach, of course he has prepared strategies and tactics to be able to win the UCL final match later, at least the target is to reached the Treble winner achieved in this season.

I am also very confident that Manchester City can beat Inter Milan without pity, I bet on Manchester City in the final and I know most people will bet on Manchester City, my prediction is 3 - 0 to win Manchester City.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on May 30, 2023, 01:54:59 AM

Quote from: Grim_Fandango on May 29, 2023, 08:34:52 AM

Inter Milan has one big advantage over Manchester City and that is that they have Croatian player in their team.

I don't know if people know but last 10 Champions League winners all had at least 1 Croatian player in their team and it will be interesting to see if that tradition continues this year as well.

2013 Bayern won with Mandzukic
2014 Real won with Modric
2015 Barcelona won with Rakitic
2016 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2017 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2018 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2019 Liverpool won with Lovren
2020 Bayern with Perisic
2021 Chelsea won with Kovacic
2022 Real won with Modric
2023?

As much as I want to buy this idea I still find it difficult to agree that this philosophy will have an impact on the result of this season's final game between Manchester City and Inter Milan, with or without a Croatian player on either team the best team of the day will conquer the day and if Manchester City decide to underestimate Inter Milan they might be in for a shock.

The odds are obviously high in favour of the English club, but I am sure that Pep Guardiola would not use that as a gauge of how this would turn out. Like what I know him for, all matches are to be played as if it's the last one ever, so I believe underestimating the Italian team can't be part of his thought right now. How to play more and be impressive on the pitch would be his target, and thankfully, he has a better team and the many youngsters over there would be desperate to write the winning in their Bios, so I trust that they will give their best on that day. Less than 2 weeks now and it's still counting, I am patiently waiting...

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Not going to say this can be a safe bet, but we all know Manchester City got a much better situation and they could beat the strong teams Inter Milan could never even imagine to beat them, however betting on Inter Milan is worth taking the risk and this risk can grant goo reward because according to some sources I can see betting on Inter Milan can grant much more reward and since this team in unstable and unpredictable, I think it worth to bet on Inter Milan and take the risk.

I sold my bet and re-stake double chance for Manchester City, the way Inter won their last two matches made me rethink that this match may end as a draw in a regular minute and we may see the extra minute and the penalty, reminded me of how the World Cup ended and I think the double chance of a win or draw will be okay for my satisfaction, Manchester City is still my favorite to win this match but there things we need to reconsider about Inter and how Manchester City will win this match, I have included the risk of that draw for regular time and also add a bet for them to lift the Champions League as a separate bet to manage my risk.

Pep guardiola himself admitted that to score two , three or four goals against italian teams it's a tough one. He knew and aware that inter milan would play defensive and try to counter every manchester city attack and whenever they successfully steal a goal , it's almost a sure thing pep teams going frustrating.

And guess what? Inter lift the trophy while manchester city crying in the corner for the second time in ucl final, that's the scenario that a lot of people might forgot.

When a team plays full defense, it is very difficult for the opposition to score and save goals. It is difficult to save a goal because the opposing team will be attacking as well as defending, so most of the players of the attacking team will leave their defense and move into the opponent's defense. Then if the defensive playing team can make a good counter attack then the chances of scoring are very high for the defensive playing team. This is undoubtedly a big concern for Pep Guardiola. If a team falls behind early in the UCL final, it will be very difficult for that team to come back later.

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Quote from: Cookdata on May 29, 2023, 05:00:37 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:14:24 PM

Not going to say this can be a safe bet, but we all know Manchester City got a much better situation and they could beat the strong teams Inter Milan could never even imagine to beat them, however betting on Inter Milan is worth taking the risk and this risk can grant goo reward because according to some sources I can see betting on Inter Milan can grant much more reward and since this team in unstable and unpredictable, I think it worth to bet on Inter Milan and take the risk.

I sold my bet and re-stake double chance for Manchester City, the way Inter won their last two matches made me rethink that this match may end as a draw in a regular minute and we may see the extra minute and the penalty, reminded me of how the World Cup ended and I think the double chance of a win or draw will be okay for my satisfaction, Manchester City is still my favorite to win this match but there things we need to reconsider about Inter and how Manchester City will win this match, I have included the risk of that draw for regular time and also add a bet for them to lift the Champions League as a separate bet to manage my risk.

I do not bet on matches from far time, I mean I place bet on the same day of the match. Just 1 hr to the match so that I will be sure of the availability of players, weather condition, formation of the coach and more.
So, on the day of the finals, I will bet Manchester City to win and my stake will be very high. I don't want to know how Inter Milan will do the wonders, but the City team that I have witnessed this season will take Inter Milan down even in the first half of the finals.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on May 29, 2023, 08:52:49 AM

Having one Croatian in every team that have won the champions league from 2013 is just a coincidence.

Of course it is just a coincidence and it doesn't mean that team has to have Croatian player in order to win Champions League but it is interesting anyway. If anything, it says that Croatian players play in the top world team, therefore they often win CL.

I can't believe that people thought that there is actually something behind it and that I have to further explain this football joke that goes around for years...

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Quote from: Grim_Fandango on May 29, 2023, 08:34:52 AM

Inter Milan has one big advantage over Manchester City and that is that they have Croatian player in their team.

I don't know if people know but last 10 Champions League winners all had at least 1 Croatian player in their team and it will be interesting to see if that tradition continues this year as well.

2013 Bayern won with Mandzukic
2014 Real won with Modric
2015 Barcelona won with Rakitic
2016 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2017 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2018 Real won with Modric and Kovacic
2019 Liverpool won with Lovren
2020 Bayern with Perisic
2021 Chelsea won with Kovacic
2022 Real won with Modric
2023?

As much as I want to buy this idea I still find it difficult to agree that this philosophy will have an impact on the result of this season's final game between Manchester City and Inter Milan, with or without a Croatian player on either team the best team of the day will conquer the day and if Manchester City decide to underestimate Inter Milan they might be in for a shock.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on May 29, 2023, 06:43:03 PM

Quote from: Cookdata on May 29, 2023, 05:00:37 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:14:24 PM

Not going to say this can be a safe bet, but we all know Manchester City got a much better situation and they could beat the strong teams Inter Milan could never even imagine to beat them, however betting on Inter Milan is worth taking the risk and this risk can grant goo reward because according to some sources I can see betting on Inter Milan can grant much more reward and since this team in unstable and unpredictable, I think it worth to bet on Inter Milan and take the risk.

I sold my bet and re-stake double chance for Manchester City, the way Inter won their last two matches made me rethink that this match may end as a draw in a regular minute and we may see the extra minute and the penalty, reminded me of how the World Cup ended and I think the double chance of a win or draw will be okay for my satisfaction, Manchester City is still my favorite to win this match but there things we need to reconsider about Inter and how Manchester City will win this match, I have included the risk of that draw for regular time and also add a bet for them to lift the Champions League as a separate bet to manage my risk.

Pep guardiola himself admitted that to score two , three or four goals against italian teams it's a tough one. He knew and aware that inter milan would play defensive and try to counter every manchester city attack and whenever they successfully steal a goal , it's almost a sure thing pep teams going frustrating.

And guess what? Inter lift the trophy while manchester city crying in the corner for the second time in ucl final, that's the scenario that a lot of people might forgot.

I think very few people expect inter to get the title and that's because man city is very strong right now and can destroy any club easily, but this is a final and inter is not a bad team and they can surprise the oppenet with a goal anytime so man city defence should be very careful

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Quote from: Cookdata on May 29, 2023, 05:00:37 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:14:24 PM

Not going to say this can be a safe bet, but we all know Manchester City got a much better situation and they could beat the strong teams Inter Milan could never even imagine to beat them, however betting on Inter Milan is worth taking the risk and this risk can grant goo reward because according to some sources I can see betting on Inter Milan can grant much more reward and since this team in unstable and unpredictable, I think it worth to bet on Inter Milan and take the risk.

I sold my bet and re-stake double chance for Manchester City, the way Inter won their last two matches made me rethink that this match may end as a draw in a regular minute and we may see the extra minute and the penalty, reminded me of how the World Cup ended and I think the double chance of a win or draw will be okay for my satisfaction, Manchester City is still my favorite to win this match but there things we need to reconsider about Inter and how Manchester City will win this match, I have included the risk of that draw for regular time and also add a bet for them to lift the Champions League as a separate bet to manage my risk.

Pep guardiola himself admitted that to score two , three or four goals against italian teams it's a tough one. He knew and aware that inter milan would play defensive and try to counter every manchester city attack and whenever they successfully steal a goal , it's almost a sure thing pep teams going frustrating.

And guess what? Inter lift the trophy while manchester city crying in the corner for the second time in ucl final, that's the scenario that a lot of people might forgot.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on May 29, 2023, 01:45:34 PM

Manchester city has more quality players than Inter, Manchester still has a better coach, with this they are good to go. Inter are very much aware of the kind of team they will be facing, so I know inter will be very difficult for Manchester city to beat, but Manchester City will still be the winner.

I have been seeing different predictions on the forum here and almost all is in support of Manchester city winning inter Milan, every one have been doing their analysis base on the two club’s players, how expired their players are, the two club’s achievements, and how experienced the two clubs coach are, if we are going by all this, we know that Manchester city is better than inter Milan, but don’t we just think about it that inter Milan might just have the opportunity of scoring 1 goal and they will try their possible best to defend d one goal and they will be the winner of the league. Actually it’s just an assumption, I also believe Manchester City will win.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:14:24 PM

Not going to say this can be a safe bet, but we all know Manchester City got a much better situation and they could beat the strong teams Inter Milan could never even imagine to beat them, however betting on Inter Milan is worth taking the risk and this risk can grant goo reward because according to some sources I can see betting on Inter Milan can grant much more reward and since this team in unstable and unpredictable, I think it worth to bet on Inter Milan and take the risk.

I sold my bet and re-stake double chance for Manchester City, the way Inter won their last two matches made me rethink that this match may end as a draw in a regular minute and we may see the extra minute and the penalty, reminded me of how the World Cup ended and I think the double chance of a win or draw will be okay for my satisfaction, Manchester City is still my favorite to win this match but there things we need to reconsider about Inter and how Manchester City will win this match, I have included the risk of that draw for regular time and also add a bet for them to lift the Champions League as a separate bet to manage my risk.

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Manchester City are very close to win the Champions League for the first time ever in their history as you know. This is going to be a very special moment for the fans, players and Guardiola all. Only thing they need to do is to not underestimate Inter and that must be good enough to be the winner. I think they are aware of this already as they don't have any luxury of being complacent in this crucial point.

Manchester City do not need to underrate Inter Milan, neither do they need to over rate them. They don't even need to consider them for anything. What Manchester City need to do is to be determined and replicate what they did against Real Madrid in the second leg of the semifinals. If Manchester City can play up to 60% of what they gave against Real Madrid, Inter will be demolished even in the 1st half. Inter Milan cannot withstand Kevin, Haaland and the rest of them for 90 minutes without comceding , it is just impossible. I mean, there's nothing inter can do about this, they will not win the Champions League.

It seems like you have a strong belief in Manchester City's capabilities and their chances against Inter Milan!!! Inter Milan is a historically successful club with a strong roster of talented players. They have their own strengths and strategies that they will bring to the match. Football is a dynamic sport, and any team has the potential to perform well and achieve victory on a given day. it’s always exciting to see top teams compete in the UEFA Champions League, and the outcome of the matches can often surprise us.

Inter Milan of a truth has better record in the UEFA Champions League history than Manchester City does and I think their better experience in the competition will somehow have an effect on the game.
However Manchester City's current squad is very lethal and almost unplayable when they're playing in their full strength and that is why they've been backed by not just many football fans but also bookmakers to conquer Inter Milan and win a trophy that's eluded them since the formation of the club.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 29, 2023, 02:30:07 PM

Manchester City do not need to underrate Inter Milan, neither do they need to over rate them. They don't even need to consider them for anything. What Manchester City need to do is to be determined and replicate what they did against Real Madrid in the second leg of the semifinals. If Manchester City can play up to 60% of what they gave against Real Madrid, Inter will be demolished even in the 1st half. Inter Milan cannot withstand Kevin, Haaland and the rest of them for 90 minutes without comceding , it is just impossible. I mean, there's nothing inter can do about this, they will not win the Champions League.

I too have a lot of belief and faith in Manchester City and in their capabilities but I wouldn’t advise City to underrate or underestimate their opponents, Inter Milan. Inter Milan has fought hard too and defeated other teams that are equally competitive and strong. Manchester City very well needs to consider their opponents.
But I think you’ve got a point also. If Manchester City could replicate the way and tactics which they had used when playing Real Madrid in the second leg, then I think Manchester City could most likely score a goal or two in the first half and go ahead to win the game. But they should never underestimate their opponents.

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Quote from: bbigtart on May 29, 2023, 03:15:44 PM

What makes all football lovers eagerly await this season's final is that in 2005 the Istanbul final brought together the Reds between Liverpool vs Ac Milan. Now in Istanbul, the Blue is bringing together Manchester City vs Inter Milan. This is very interesting

Manchester City vs Inter this season will be very different from Liverpool vs Milan in 2005. This season Manchester City really proved to the world that they are the favorites in the Champions League from the group stage to the final, but Inter also have optimism about the title.

I don't think it's easy for Manchester City to beat Inter, but maybe in terms of the aggressiveness of the game, Manchester City are much better than Serie A teams. I want Manchester City to win their first title in the Champions League and they don't have to be the unluckiest team in this European competition. The hope is that Manchester City will win, but I don't think they should underestimate Inter who have also reached the last stages of this great competition.

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Inter Milan will have a difficult time deciding on a tactic to utilize against Manchester City. Manchester City, like every other team we know, has many strategies and will only use those that will benefit them throughout the game. Let Inter Milan not spend too much time looking for Man City's flaws, but instead use their own tactics to get an advantage over them in the first few minutes of the game.

The only weakness of Pep Guardiola's strategy is to play total defense and counterattack. This scenario may be implemented by Inter in their strategy in the final, but the level of success can always be doubted considering Manchester City's performance. So far Manchester City have waited quite a while to win their first Champions League title, so I think they have more determination this season to get there than Inter.

We can differentiate the strength of teams based on squad depth and also their performance so far. Inter tend to be unstable, but they also have a good squad, but Manchester City looks more ready to complete its mission this season. Just a few days from now Manchester City have an FA Cup final against Manchester United. So they will probably focus 100% there first before going to the Champions League final.

Actually, all of us thinking that this is certainly going to be a win for Manchester City. But I would say Manchester City should not underestimate Inter in the finals. Of course, there is a reason why they are in the finals. Manchester City should take Inter very seriously. Just because Manchester City was able to beat Real Madrid quite easily doesn't mean that they have already become the winner of the Champions League. Two matches that are currently bearing the utmost importance for Manchester City are the two finals that are left. Manchester City should not also get ahead of themselves and take one match at a time. First, they should prepare for the match against Manchester United and after that, they should concentrate on the Champions League final.

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