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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 26, 2022, 02:56:40 AM

Quote from: X-ray on October 26, 2022, 12:52:00 AM

People are always doing it. They doubt with new coach caused by when you make a comparison between tuchel and graham, tuchel has been giving some trophies like graham was winning none. I can accept such reason by people if tuchel has better history compared with graham but people shall not underestimate graham potter as well. It's already confirmed that chelsea has been going to the last 16. Glad to see this result can be achieved in three wins in a row. It seems the true performance from chelsea is coming back again. It seems like that salz burg is much more dominant to go to the next stage rather than ac milan itself. I don't underestimate ac milan but i just seeing how good salzburg.

Graham Potter was able to bring Chelsea to the top of Group E, after overthrowing RB Salzburg at the Red Bull Arena.
a very satisfying result, considering that in the first leg Chelsea were only able to share points with each other.

So far, the Blues are unbeaten in all competitions from 8 matches. something to appreciate, considering he is the new coach after being left by Tuchel. I will not compare for these two coaches, both do their best for the club and the team.

As for AC Milan, they can't be said to be safe. only one point adrift of RB Salburg.
in the match they met later, was a life and death battle. this match is important for both, and one of the winners will accompany Chelsea to the round of 16.

I can say nothing but praise Graham Potter considering how he started, from Ostersunds Fk, Swansea city, Brighton & Hove Albion and now Chelsea which is his first job on a big stage and his first time in an European competition. In the 9 games he’s managed so far, he has been able to win 6 and draw 3, scoring 15 goals in the process and conceding only 4. He’s a very tactical and an intelligent manager. Since he came to Chelsea I have seen him play different teams and still get good results, I think that’s one of the aspects he’s better than Thomas Tuchel. He’ll go far.

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Quote from: davis196 on October 26, 2022, 01:17:09 AM

Glorious victory for Benfica against Juventus. The Italian team has lots of good players, but the squad lacks confidence. I guess that Juventus needs a new coach.

New coach will not help Juventus to be a better team than they are now. They need new coach and new players to replace some of their "old" players. Defense is really bad as well as the midfield, no good coordination between players to attack and no good coordination to defense. They got some players in the last window transfer market but it does not give them great contribution so far. I believe that they are now regretting the decision to let some players go (both sell and loan) in the previous transfer market such as Dybala, Kulusevski, de Light, etc

No matter how bad the team is or the individual players are, the first thing is always to sack the coach. If this happens, the players will wake up knowing that a new coach with a new mentality is coming.
I don't know the type of agreement Allegri has with Juventus that is making the club so reluctant to issue sack letter even when there are enough reasons to have don that since.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on October 26, 2022, 01:49:47 AM

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Manchester City are back against Dortmund which we know Manchester City are safe and they don't need any more points but this time it will be different but it's more interesting Dortmund is a slightly more dangerous opponent but I think I have hope for Manchester with @1.73 chances on the other side The hosts certainly need points but I think even if Dortmun loses tonight there is still hope in the next match to win.

I watched that game and even though it was a 0-0 in the end it was a pretty good match to watch in my opinion. Manchester City had a way higher ball possession than Dortmund but that was to be expected. Dortmund though had 3 or 4 pretty good chances to score a goal after counter attacks in the first half so Dortmund could have definitely scored at least one goal there.
In the second half Dortmund also started strong but after 10 Minutes or so they lost control over the game. Manchester City even got a penalty but Mahrez did not make that one. Overall i would say the draw is a fair result. ManCity was qualified for the knockout stage before the match anyway.

Dortmund is entirely under pressure from Man City. City dominated the match. unfortunately, City did not get enough opportunities. even with such strong ball possession. It still has not made City penetrate Dortmund's defense.
Dortmund has tried hard, at least not to lose like the meeting in the first leg. Dortmund uses the right strategy. they learned from the defeat in the previous session.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 26, 2022, 12:52:00 AM

People are always doing it. They doubt with new coach caused by when you make a comparison between tuchel and graham, tuchel has been giving some trophies like graham was winning none. I can accept such reason by people if tuchel has better history compared with graham but people shall not underestimate graham potter as well. It's already confirmed that chelsea has been going to the last 16. Glad to see this result can be achieved in three wins in a row. It seems the true performance from chelsea is coming back again. It seems like that salz burg is much more dominant to go to the next stage rather than ac milan itself. I don't underestimate ac milan but i just seeing how good salzburg.

Graham Potter was able to bring Chelsea to the top of Group E, after overthrowing RB Salzburg at the Red Bull Arena.
a very satisfying result, considering that in the first leg Chelsea were only able to share points with each other.

So far, the Blues are unbeaten in all competitions from 8 matches. something to appreciate, considering he is the new coach after being left by Tuchel. I will not compare for these two coaches, both do their best for the club and the team.

As for AC Milan, they can't be said to be safe. only one point adrift of RB Salburg.
in the match they met later, was a life and death battle. this match is important for both, and one of the winners will accompany Chelsea to the round of 16.

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Quote from: Bitinity on October 26, 2022, 01:46:26 AM

Quote from: davis196 on October 26, 2022, 01:17:09 AM

Glorious victory for Benfica against Juventus. The Italian team has lots of good players, but the squad lacks confidence. I guess that Juventus needs a new coach.

New coach will not help Juventus to be a better team than they are now. They need new coach and new players to replace some of their "old" players. Defense is really bad as well as the midfield, no good coordination between players to attack and no good coordination to defense. They got some players in the last window transfer market but it does not give them great contribution so far. I believe that they are now regretting the decision to let some players go (both sell and loan) in the previous transfer market such as Dybala, Kulusevski, de Light, etc

I may slightly agree with what you say in this case because the possibility is also slim but of course with a new coach there will be slight changes because of course every coach has its own scheme and strategy and with a new coach there will be slight changes. felt.
But in yesterday's match actually regardless of losing or winning, they can still be said to be playing pretty well compared to before but this result clearly doesn't make them profitable because they want it or not to go down to the Europa League.

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Quote from: salad daging on October 25, 2022, 02:00:52 PM

Manchester City are back against Dortmund which we know Manchester City are safe and they don't need any more points but this time it will be different but it's more interesting Dortmund is a slightly more dangerous opponent but I think I have hope for Manchester with @1.73 chances on the other side The hosts certainly need points but I think even if Dortmun loses tonight there is still hope in the next match to win.

I watched that game and even though it was a 0-0 in the end it was a pretty good match to watch in my opinion. Manchester City had a way higher ball possession than Dortmund but that was to be expected. Dortmund though had 3 or 4 pretty good chances to score a goal after counter attacks in the first half so Dortmund could have definitely scored at least one goal there.
In the second half Dortmund also started strong but after 10 Minutes or so they lost control over the game. Manchester City even got a penalty but Mahrez did not make that one. Overall i would say the draw is a fair result. ManCity was qualified for the knockout stage before the match anyway.

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Quote from: davis196 on October 26, 2022, 01:17:09 AM

Glorious victory for Benfica against Juventus. The Italian team has lots of good players, but the squad lacks confidence. I guess that Juventus needs a new coach.

New coach will not help Juventus to be a better team than they are now. They need new coach and new players to replace some of their "old" players. Defense is really bad as well as the midfield, no good coordination between players to attack and no good coordination to defense. They got some players in the last window transfer market but it does not give them great contribution so far. I believe that they are now regretting the decision to let some players go (both sell and loan) in the previous transfer market such as Dybala, Kulusevski, de Light, etc

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Quote from: davis196 on October 26, 2022, 01:17:09 AM

Glorious victory for Benfica against Juventus. The Italian team has lots of good players, but the squad lacks confidence. I guess that Juventus needs a new coach.
Real Madrid and Manchester City already qualified for the next round, so playing without motivation and not winning their matches yesterday wasn't a surprise. Dinamo Zagreb couldn't compete with AC Milan and I'm sure that AC Milan will follow Chelsea in the eliminations phase.

Benfica was kicking juventus's ass out from the champion league. Juventus is still become a horrible team in the serie a. Juventus has been planning to sell some of its players to get funds. It seems like juventus will be using this fund to replace its coach.
The thing that makes me feel shock is allegri was blaming his squad for showing very bad performance. this coach doesn't know if he was also doing shit to his own squads.

Quote from: davis196 on October 26, 2022, 01:17:09 AM

Can't wait to see Barcelona vs. Bayern. The Catalonian team will have to beg for mercy.

The hottest match that have been waiting by so many people in the world. This match will become a key for barcelona. Bayern may kicking barcelona's ass once barcelona will be lost in this match. Bayern is still at its best performance. It was climbing so fast in the bundesliga which has proven its performance going to be the best against in bundesliga. Bayern may domate the match.

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AC Milan has to do everything to get a win in this match, their third in the group with four points. Dinamo also has four points and at the bottom of the group. It's an interesting game, both team need a win to advance ahead to Europa league because I don't see the possibility for them to advance to the knockout stage of UEFA, Chelsea and FC salzburg will qualify to the next stage. In they draw again today and either AC Milan or Dinamo won, then one can say the group is still open. Chelsea only need a draw and one winning to qualify to the next stage. I believe they can get a win today.

There is one game left to qualify for the UEFA knockout stages, where Chelsea have already secured one ticket in the matches they have played, while AC Mila and FC Salzburg still have a chance, considering the current number of points is only one difference, moreover AC Milan will face FC Salzburg, If AC Mila draws and wins, then one ticket has been secured by Milan, and vice versa for Salzburg.
This will be an important match for both, considering the result of win or loss determines both clubs advance to the next round.

Milan's match against Red Bull Salzburg will not be easy. Salzburg is a strong enough team. Even the first match between AC Milan and Salzburg ended in a 1-1 draw. Salzburg players managed to play very well in the home match against Milan. So there is no way to say that Milan will win easily in the next match. The match will certainly be competitive. And Salzburg will try their best to qualify for the knockout round of the Champions League. But Milan is an experienced team. They are in great form in Serie A right now. Even if they get 1 point against Salzburg, they will qualify for the knockout round. So my prediction is Milan will draw the next match goalless.

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Glorious victory for Benfica against Juventus. The Italian team has lots of good players, but the squad lacks confidence. I guess that Juventus needs a new coach.
Real Madrid and Manchester City already qualified for the next round, so playing without motivation and not winning their matches yesterday wasn't a surprise. Dinamo Zagreb couldn't compete with AC Milan and I'm sure that AC Milan will follow Chelsea in the eliminations phase.
Can't wait to see Barcelona vs. Bayern. The Catalonian team will have to beg for mercy.
Brugge vs. Porto is another interesting game. The Belgian team has a really good performance in this year's season of the Champions League.
Perhaps Brugge can achieve something big and reach the quarter-finals.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on October 25, 2022, 01:16:41 AM

AC Milan has to do everything to get a win in this match, their third in the group with four points. Dinamo also has four points and at the bottom of the group. It's an interesting game, both team need a win to advance ahead to Europa league because I don't see the possibility for them to advance to the knockout stage of UEFA, Chelsea and FC salzburg will qualify to the next stage. In they draw again today and either AC Milan or Dinamo won, then one can say the group is still open. Chelsea only need a draw and one winning to qualify to the next stage. I believe they can get a win today.

There is one game left to qualify for the UEFA knockout stages, where Chelsea have already secured one ticket in the matches they have played, while AC Mila and FC Salzburg still have a chance, considering the current number of points is only one difference, moreover AC Milan will face FC Salzburg, If AC Mila draws and wins, then one ticket has been secured by Milan, and vice versa for Salzburg.
This will be an important match for both, considering the result of win or loss determines both clubs advance to the next round.

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Watching chelse to go to the last 16 is a very interesting for sure. It seems like when chelsea coach got sacked replaced with a new one will always become a new method that boosts the performance from players in the club. Havertz has been bringing chelsea to the last 16 which is good to see that. Will chelsea win this trophy in this season? it seems impossible for chelsea but im sure that this has a chance even if it will be facing some big clubs like bayern and real madrid.
Some golden chance almost be converted as goal but these can still be blocked by salzburg's goal keeper. It seems like that if ac milan will be winning the next match and point will be the same as chelsea but chelsea winning in h2h.

Todd Boehly has once again proved critics wrong that the replacement of Thomas Tuchel with Graham Potter is not a blunder. We saw a rejuvenated Chelsea side in the first half when they totally controlled the game. The first half would have produced more than one goal if not for the superb performance of B Salzburg goalkeeper Philipp Kohn. In the second half B Salzburg improved and got an equalizer but thanks to Kai Havertz for that wonderful strike that gave Chelsea the victory. With this win, Chelsea has finally sealed their place in the next round and hopefully, some of their key injured players would recover before the next kicks off. B Salzburg has lost their 40-match unbeaten home run, but they can still qualify if they can beat AC Milan in their final match.

People are always doing it. They doubt with new coach caused by when you make a comparison between tuchel and graham, tuchel has been giving some trophies like graham was winning none. I can accept such reason by people if tuchel has better history compared with graham but people shall not underestimate graham potter as well. It's already confirmed that chelsea has been going to the last 16. Glad to see this result can be achieved in three wins in a row. It seems the true performance from chelsea is coming back again. It seems like that salz burg is much more dominant to go to the next stage rather than ac milan itself. I don't underestimate ac milan but i just seeing how good salzburg.

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Watching chelse to go to the last 16 is a very interesting for sure. It seems like when chelsea coach got sacked replaced with a new one will always become a new method that boosts the performance from players in the club. Havertz has been bringing chelsea to the last 16 which is good to see that. Will chelsea win this trophy in this season? it seems impossible for chelsea but im sure that this has a chance even if it will be facing some big clubs like Bayern and real madrid. Some golden chance almost be converted as goal but these can still be blocked by salzburg's goal keeper. It seems like that if ac milan will be winning the next match and point will be the same as chelsea but chelsea winning in h2h.

Thanks to two victories over Milan, Chelsea turned the situation in the group in their favor, and with their victory over Salzburg, they further consolidated this position. Now the position of the teams in the group has acquired the outlines that many expected before the start of the Champions League group stage matches, but the upcoming full-time match with Milan allows Salzburg to tip the scales in its favor and take the coveted 2nd place.

As a chelsea fans and im very happy to hear this news. This will not make graham and chelsea owner will not be blamed by the supporters. Chelsea can win easily against dinamo. I remember felt so skeptical with chelsea caused by it was only getting 1 point which is the worst achievement so far.
The situation can change just only in a few matches which is unbelievable.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 25, 2022, 06:58:31 PM

Yep. It is an easy match for PSG, they won the match with 7 goals.
To be honest, I'm not surprised with the result since Maccabi Haifa level is not comparable to PSG.
Moreover, if PSG players played together as a team, not relying on individual egos. They must win with big scores because they have 3 top strikers in the world (Neymar-Messi-Mbappe). These 3 strikers are always very productive once they played with good cooperation. Sure, Messi played well, he showed us that he is still a great striker. Wink

Without ego and solid teamwork, PSG is very strong for each opponent. I realize that but it is always difficult to change the attitude of these players in a very short time especially when certain players like Mbappe have more capacity in PSG management. Christophe Galtier has to make a really good approach to his star players so they can change his attitude to not put their egos forward when playing. But change is starting to show, meaning Christophe Galtier is starting to find ways to get players to work for the team instead of focusing on individual stats.

About Messi, you are right and Messi is still a productive striker at PSG. In 5 matches in the Champions League, Messi has scored 4 goals and 3 assists and that statistic is one that proves Messi is still very important for PSG at this time. His contribution to the game has greatly increased this season especially as Messi is starting to get his form back and his adaptation has been good.

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Quote from: salad daging on October 25, 2022, 02:00:52 PM

Manchester City are back against Dortmund which we know Manchester City are safe and they don't need any more points but this time it will be different but it's more interesting Dortmund is a slightly more dangerous opponent but I think I have hope for Manchester with @1.73 chances on the other side The hosts certainly need points but I think even if Dortmun loses tonight there is still hope in the next match to win.

And unfortunately, the match ended with draw, due to Man-city inability to utilize the given yesterdays opportunities, because I still don't understand while a very resourceful stricker like Erling Haaland had to be bench after the first half and not allowed to play the game to the end, because had he been on the match till the end, I'm sure the penalty wasted by Riyad Mahrez would have been a goal had it been played by the goal king "Erling Haaland". But I'm still yet to recover from yesterday's game as this draw cut my slip.

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Real Madrid failed to win their last 2 matches in the Champions League, but it is safe for 1 ticket to qualify for the next round. I don't think Real Madrid should lose to Leipzig today, but Leipzig are really expecting a good result in this match to qualify. On the other hand, it was also disappointing for Manchester City where they only drew in their last two matches in the Champions League. Not exciting but that's how the coach feels when he feels his team is safe to go through.

I think, Real Madrid will definitely use this match to recover their losses they experienced in their past matches that made them to dropped points. I don't think, Leipzig has the strength to defeat Real Madrid in this match, because their strikers are not too strong to have access to Real Madrid goalpost compared to some strong teams Real Madrid has defeated in this UEFA champions league competition. Real Madrid will win Leipzig 2-0 to improve their points and to make people to believe that they are in a solid ground to win this season title and many titles to come.

Real Madrid lost 3-2 against Leipzig. Real Madrid's performance was not bad. They performed similar to the horizon matches and played with similar tactics. Real Madrid's match strategy was the same. However, the performance of Leipzig's players was outstanding. The performance of their attacking players was excellent. So they were able to easily break the strong defense of Real Madrid. and scored three goals. Despite losing this match, Real Madrid is at the top of the table. So, even if they can't score points in this match, the Madrid team is not facing a loss.

Now it is clear why the bookmakers had such odds, everything really turned out as they expected, Leipzig and Chelsea won.
It is interesting that Vinicius and Rodrigo each scored(like i thought) a goal and in general were almost able to replace Benzema and Modric, but unfortunately for Real yesterday Leipzig played just fine.
The only thing that came out with a surprise was a draw for Manchester City. Here, even the bookmakers did not expect.

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Real Madrid lost 3-2 against Leipzig. Real Madrid's performance was not bad. They performed similar to the horizon matches and played with similar tactics. Real Madrid's match strategy was the same. However, the performance of Leipzig's players was outstanding. The performance of their attacking players was excellent. So they were able to easily break the strong defense of Real Madrid. and scored three goals. Despite losing this match, Real Madrid is at the top of the table. So, even if they can't score points in this match, the Madrid team is not facing a loss.

Qualified to next round seems Real Madrid not full team when beating by Leipzig last night, actually disappointed with Real Madrid have beaten by Leipzig and not guarantee will finish at top standings position if last match get bad result again. Have bad performance at last two Champion League match failed get full points, last matchday held to draw by Shaktar Donetsk and beaten by Leipzig make Real Madrid left 1 points only from Leipzig at standings position.

Face difficult qualified to next round with runner up standings because will face team finish at 1st standings position actually dominance by bigger team like Manchester City, Bayern, PSG and Chelsea. I think Real Madrid have to all out last match facing Celtic to secure first standings position and next round faced with team finish at seconds position standing.

The Real Madrid coach will not want to take any risks. If they qualify from the top of the points table, they will face relatively weaker teams in the next round. So Real Madrid will perform very carefully against Celtic. And they need full points against Celtic. The Celtic is not strong as a team. Celtic have yet to win a match in the Champions League. If Real Madrid performs in this match with their main squad then they will have no problem winning against Celtic. However, if Ancelotti allows their second-tier squad to play in this match, the match with Celtic is likely to be a draw. I look forward to Ancelotti's decision.

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Real Madrid and Man City must be qualified for the next round, that's why they didn't play very seriously today.

I thought hard when betting on the club that has qualified to the next round, it's the same as playing slot or dice, all technical and analysts will be lost and got the wrong result when choosing clubs like Madrid or Mancity. As we know, we will bet on Madrid because has better for each line even not as host, but when the match began,I really thing can't believe between 20' have missed 2 goals, seem it was not Real Madrid, I feel like withdrawing the bet and choose the opponent.

On paper Real Madrid is very easy beat Leipzig and Manchester City will have no difficulty when they away to Dortmund. But different conditions occur on the field because Real Madrid and Manchester City prefer to play it safe because they have managed to secure a ticket to step into the round of 16.
It is very risky to place a bet on a team that has already made it through to the next round, they prefer to play it safe and have fun on the field because they have no ambition to secure victory. Real Madrid did not play as shown in the previous match, the final result gave Real Madrid defeat, Ancelotti was never worried about this result, because this match was only considered a formality to fulfill the quota for matches in the Group stage.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 25, 2022, 11:33:54 PM

Real Madrid lost 3-2 against Leipzig. Real Madrid's performance was not bad. They performed similar to the horizon matches and played with similar tactics. Real Madrid's match strategy was the same. However, the performance of Leipzig's players was outstanding. The performance of their attacking players was excellent. So they were able to easily break the strong defense of Real Madrid. and scored three goals. Despite losing this match, Real Madrid is at the top of the table. So, even if they can't score points in this match, the Madrid team is not facing a loss.

Qualified to next round seems Real Madrid not full team when beating by Leipzig last night, actually disappointed with Real Madrid have beaten by Leipzig and not guarantee will finish at top standings position if last match get bad result again. Have bad performance at last two Champion League match failed get full points, last matchday held to draw by Shaktar Donetsk and beaten by Leipzig make Real Madrid left 1 points only from Leipzig at standings position.

Face difficult qualified to next round with runner up standings because will face team finish at 1st standings position actually dominance by bigger team like Manchester City, Bayern, PSG and Chelsea. I think Real Madrid have to all out last match facing Celtic to secure first standings position and next round faced with team finish at seconds position standing.

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Real Madrid failed to win their last 2 matches in the Champions League, but it is safe for 1 ticket to qualify for the next round. I don't think Real Madrid should lose to Leipzig today, but Leipzig are really expecting a good result in this match to qualify. On the other hand, it was also disappointing for Manchester City where they only drew in their last two matches in the Champions League. Not exciting but that's how the coach feels when he feels his team is safe to go through.

I think, Real Madrid will definitely use this match to recover their losses they experienced in their past matches that made them to dropped points. I don't think, Leipzig has the strength to defeat Real Madrid in this match, because their strikers are not too strong to have access to Real Madrid goalpost compared to some strong teams Real Madrid has defeated in this UEFA champions league competition. Real Madrid will win Leipzig 2-0 to improve their points and to make people to believe that they are in a solid ground to win this season title and many titles to come.

Real Madrid lost 3-2 against Leipzig. Real Madrid's performance was not bad. They performed similar to the horizon matches and played with similar tactics. Real Madrid's match strategy was the same. However, the performance of Leipzig's players was outstanding. The performance of their attacking players was excellent. So they were able to easily break the strong defense of Real Madrid. and scored three goals. Despite losing this match, Real Madrid is at the top of the table. So, even if they can't score points in this match, the Madrid team is not facing a loss.

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In the game between PSG and Maccabi Haifa, PSG played a very good game. But Maccabi Haifa played a very bad game. Maccabi Haifa played the whole match and scored 2 goals. But PSG scored 7 goals in this match. I didn't think at first that they 7 goals can be scored in this match. PSG has won this match.

I expected PSG to win but not with that heavy score line. PSG went into the game with enough fire power and played really well. Messi was magical. His performance yesterday was nothing short of scintillating. He made eight final-third entries and managed five shots on goal along with creating four chances for his teammates, then scored two goals and provided two assists. PSG will terrify a lot of teams this season and I hope they can win the UCL.

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