UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 93.

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Quote from: Iroh on May 18, 2023, 01:27:51 PM

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Guardiola and Manchester City worked hard to be present in the final game and to get it hopefully. They eliminated many good teams before reaching that level, including the hard Real Madrid wall.
Inter played good overall but their opponents made their mission way easier. I expect Manchester City to win the final match with 2 goals difference at least.

There’s no denying the effort and hard work Pep and his boys has had to put in to make it to the finals of the Champions League and in my opinion, they’re the favorites to win this game. I think a whole lot of people would like to see Man City winning the Champions League(I know I would).

I’m really happy and a bit surprised with the scoreline in the second leg of the game. Manchester City played so much better than they did in the first leg and the 4 goals scored is the proof of that.
Seeing the amazing form and performance Manchester City has going for them, I think Inter Milan should gear up for a fierce challenge.

Firstly, the score can be explained by the fact that they played at home, with the strongest support, secondly, by the fact that Pep's idea worked, and thirdly, Manchester City are in fact the strongest team now, they have repeatedly proved it. Also, MC have a chance of taking the treble, it would be no surprise

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I think we should not be to harsh with Real Madrid now. In my opinion they have shown a good performance again the Champions League overall and now they have been stopped by the best team in the world at the moment, which is not a big shame. Yes the 0-4 in the second leg looks like they were completely outclassed, but that result obviously came together because of the fact that Real had to try everything in order to score 2 goals to get into the extra time and then ManCity scored another two goal pretty close to the end of the match already. Manchester City definitely deserved to reach the final but it was not like Real had no chance at all. Kroos hit the post when it was 1-0, if that ball goes in, the whole game would have been different.

The reason most people think Ancelotti should get fired and he couldn't have a good performance is that they expect Real Madrid to always be the first hope for the champions league, also Real Madrid is a team they achieved many titles in the champions league and Ancelotti is an experienced coach that's why they were expecting to see Real Madrid winning this game.

Most chances he will be not sacked because we have already news about his future with Brazil needs him as their national coach and discussion is already going between these two parties even his contract is going to end at the end of 2024, but there are few rumours he will leave after end of this season and fly to Brazil for this next job.
After winning double in last season there were expectations about their success into Champions League were high, but many aspects were going to against them which create problems and at the end Manchester City which is currently one of the best soccer team in world give them good punishment and enter into final for their first title under Pep in seven years.

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Quote from: giammangiato on May 18, 2023, 02:18:30 PM

I also think Manchester City will win big against Inter Milan.
I like Manchester City this round and I also make a nice little bet.
If he humiliated Real Madrid 4 - 0, which is a very strong team, let alone with the uncertain Inter Milan.

I admit that Manchester City is superior in quality to Inter Milan. But I don't agree if you say that Inter will be easier to beat, even more tragic than the results Real Madrid got. In the final match, Inter Milan will not have a burden, they will play freely and may even be able to make it difficult for their opponents by implementing a total defensive strategy. If Manchester City wants to get this elite trophy then don't ever underestimate Inter, Pep Guardiola must still flatter and take the Italian representative seriously. I'm not sure Manchester City can beat Inter with a big score.

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Quote from: ginsan on May 18, 2023, 01:43:06 PM

Manchester city is having a pretty perfect season this season they are strong in every game which makes them more aggressive and highly favored this season to win the Champions league title. Some of their final results in the Champions League matches really surprised us where manchester city recorded a big win in the Champions league.

I think City have what it takes to go ahead and finally bring home the one trophy that's been eluding them. This was a masterclass dismantling of one of the most decorated teams in the history of this competition. Pep is a genius, he's gone and built another monster of a team. Silva, Greelish, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Stones, and Rodri were outstanding, they were everywhere on the pitch. They said it was only possible because it was in La liga. Now he's about to win the Premier League 3 times on the bounce and the Champion's League.

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I also think Manchester City will win big against Inter Milan.
I like Manchester City this round and I also make a nice little bet.
If he humiliated Real Madrid 4 - 0, which is a very strong team, let alone with the uncertain Inter Milan.

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Quote from: Iroh on May 18, 2023, 01:27:51 PM

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Guardiola and Manchester City worked hard to be present in the final game and to get it hopefully. They eliminated many good teams before reaching that level, including the hard Real Madrid wall.
Inter played good overall but their opponents made their mission way easier. I expect Manchester City to win the final match with 2 goals difference at least.

There’s no denying the effort and hard work Pep and his boys has had to put in to make it to the finals of the Champions League and in my opinion, they’re the favorites to win this game. I think a whole lot of people would like to see Man City winning the Champions League(I know I would).

I’m really happy and a bit surprised with the scoreline in the second leg of the game. Manchester City played so much better than they did in the first leg and the 4 goals scored is the proof of that.
Seeing the amazing form and performance Manchester City has going for them, I think Inter Milan should gear up for a fierce challenge.

Come to think of it, who are Inter Milan to face the mighty Manchester city?, if the Manchester city could humiliate Real Madrid with a scoreline of 4 goals to nothing from Real Madrid, then we all should already know who the coming match between Inter Milan and Manchester city belong to, Inter Milan are no match for a team like Manchester city and I personally feel that the trophy is been given to Manchester city almost for free.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on May 18, 2023, 04:17:54 AM

Manchester City are really the favorites and it's only natural that they win the game and qualify for the final but I think 4 -0 is a very embarrassing thing and beyond the expectations of many people, maybe if it's only a narrow victory that Manchester City gets it will be normal.
I am very disappointed with Carlo Ancelotti's tactics, he did not play a defender who played very well in A.Rudiger's first leg. It was very surprising why he was not included in the starting line-up and instead the coach chose E.Militao who made many mistakes.

I think this big defeat is the fault of the coach who made a difference in the squad which only made them worse.

Manchester city is having a pretty perfect season this season they are strong in every game which makes them more aggressive and highly favored this season to win the Champions league title. Some of their final results in the Champions League matches really surprised us where manchester city recorded a big win in the Champions league.

Real madrid defeat with a score of 4-0 in the second leg was beyond our expectations because they were surprisingly unable to balance the game from Manchester City in the second leg and even Real Madrid were only able to release 7 shots and 3 shots on target. Now in the final match we will see how Inter Milan can provide aggressive resistance to Manchester City. I think Manchester City is very superior to win the UCL trophy.

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This is even a big enough defeat in terms of aggregate for Madrid that I remember because rarely do they lose with a big enough deficit in the Champions League, but on the other hand Manchester City also deserves to remember their brilliance in their home matches which makes this really decent enough for them.
Talking about their condition in the championship is a big chance for now for Manchester City but even though I also still believe in them to win it's just that they also shouldn't underestimate Inter with their quick counterattacks.
We know Manchester City are a little weak in anticipation of that so it would be better for them to play like they did against Madrid by continuing to attack and make the opponent unable to develop their game.

This big defeat is indeed quite difficult to imagine, but the fact is that Real Madrid could not move when they visited Man City, which was in its glory, the Man City players were quite good at doing their job, they continued to perform well with non-stop attacks so that the final result to the maximum because he managed to score a goal for Man City.

Indeed this is the biggest defeat for Real Madrid on aggregate, because Ancelotti can't do anything about it.

About the championship it's getting closer to Man City we know how Pep Guardiola wanted to chase this trophy a long time ago but now they are in the final they can't fail anymore but I believe if the game is the same as with Real Madrid then maybe the trophy will belong to Man City.

Inter Milan is also on fire in every other match, you shouldn't underestimate it either because Inter Milan could win in the UCL final later, but I hope this will belong to Man City for the first time.

A very big ambition, of course, not only for Pep, but for all the players because they still haven't been able to bring this trophy to add to their collection at the Etihad and this is another opportunity for them.
Don't let the memories of when they were in the final have to stop now because they are the real favorites for now.
On the other hand with this they also have the opportunity to win the Treble at this time because indeed the EPL is now in their hands and now they will clearly be in the final for the Champions League and FA Cup even though their opponents are still very tough.

Inter are on a special note in terms of experience for finals but I think it's also Pep knows what to do at the moment because he experienced that at his previous club as well.

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Quote from: snipie on May 18, 2023, 01:05:11 PM

Guardiola and Manchester City worked hard to be present in the final game and to get it hopefully. They eliminated many good teams before reaching that level, including the hard Real Madrid wall.
Inter played good overall but their opponents made their mission way easier. I expect Manchester City to win the final match with 2 goals difference at least.

Yes, you are right, City have come a long way, they had to play with Bayern and Real, I think that Inter could not beat such opponents, they were definitely lucky and reaching the final is a very good result.

But what should Inter look forward to, against City in the final, will they play defensively? I think that Guardiola will also want to apply pressure from the beginning of the match to score an early goal if possible. In the final, City will not have the home stadium factor, they played very well at home, but the away matches were not so successful.

And it’s also worth considering that Inter is a tougher team, they can bring down City’s attacks with small fouls, which will complicate their game in attack. It's hard to believe that Inter can beat City but this is the final, just one match, if City can't score an early goal and Guardiola's plan doesn't work then the match could be tough, but I still think City will be vastly superior Inter and win confidently.

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The cheater club has become better than others, what a surprise. And City was finally able to beat Real (buying Haaland and Guardiola had nothing to do with it). A sad result and I don't think Inter can win, so City will take the long-awaited cup. But still, I console myself with the fact that clubs like City and PSG, even with one Champions League Cup for two, will be extremely unsuccessful compared to other truly great clubs.

Manchester City deserved to win that game against Real Madrid. They played better at least from the periods I followed. The goals were correct including the third one where there was a player from City in an offside position but he didn't participate in the attack and it was Real Madrid defensive mistake.
City have money to buy whatever they want, well that was the case with Barcelona and Real Madrid to pick the best players in the world and pay higher wages. Barcelona at some points where having financial issues and they continue to have BTW.
In my opinion it will be good to see City getting that long awaited star before PSG Wink

Nope. Football is a business. In any business, if you dump or monopolize the market or otherwise play dirty against everyone, you will be kicked out of this business. But unfortunately in the corrupt European football, things are not at all civilized.
By the way, the other day I came across a funny news that Leipzig will be forced to sell players in order to comply with the rules of the FFP Grin

At the same time, for some reason, I do not see such news regarding PSG/City.

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Quote from: snipie on May 18, 2023, 01:05:11 PM

Guardiola and Manchester City worked hard to be present in the final game and to get it hopefully. They eliminated many good teams before reaching that level, including the hard Real Madrid wall.
Inter played good overall but their opponents made their mission way easier. I expect Manchester City to win the final match with 2 goals difference at least.

There’s no denying the effort and hard work Pep and his boys has had to put in to make it to the finals of the Champions League and in my opinion, they’re the favorites to win this game. I think a whole lot of people would like to see Man City winning the Champions League(I know I would).

I’m really happy and a bit surprised with the scoreline in the second leg of the game. Manchester City played so much better than they did in the first leg and the 4 goals scored is the proof of that.
Seeing the amazing form and performance Manchester City has going for them, I think Inter Milan should gear up for a fierce challenge.

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Of course I can't say it's been a perfect season for Pep Guardiola and Manchester City yet. But when they have 2 finals and 1 title match determination (Premier League) then we can expect them to be a team that has been quite successful so far this season in creating the chance.

Guardiola and Manchester City worked hard to be present in the final game and to get it hopefully. They eliminated many good teams before reaching that level, including the hard Real Madrid wall.
Inter played good overall but their opponents made their mission way easier. I expect Manchester City to win the final match with 2 goals difference at least.

As we have noticed in the subsequent performance of both clubs, Real. Madrid vs manchester city was definitely a walkover for Man City judging from both clubs' performances in the local leagues and this is what is presently playing out in the local league.

While Manchester City is presently heading the premier league table, Real Madrid on the other hand in la Liga is battling with other strong clubs in La Liga like Barcelona to make the top 1 in the league this season.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on May 18, 2023, 12:33:52 PM

Of course I can't say it's been a perfect season for Pep Guardiola and Manchester City yet. But when they have 2 finals and 1 title match determination (Premier League) then we can expect them to be a team that has been quite successful so far this season in creating the chance.

Guardiola and Manchester City worked hard to be present in the final game and to get it hopefully. They eliminated many good teams before reaching that level, including the hard Real Madrid wall.
Inter played good overall but their opponents made their mission way easier. I expect Manchester City to win the final match with 2 goals difference at least.

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It won't be much different if Man City's chances of winning the Champions League are above 70% in the final later and even I believe it will exceed the current percentage. This season Man City is really strong on all fronts and the match ended with a score of 4-0, showing how Pep Guardiola is able to make all his players play solid and coordinated, there are almost no mistakes made by Man City players, when they beat Real Madrid and their defense is under no pressure at all. Talking about the statistics and the quality of the players that both of them have, it can be concluded that Man City's chances are far greater to bring the title to the Etihad Stadium this season.

Of course, I think it's undeniable, I saw an easy win for Manchester City last night and it's true that the mentality of the king of Europe Real Madrid was not visible throughout the match.

I have the impression that Manchester City can win the second leg because they managed to draw against Real Madrid in the first leg. Manchester City dominated the match with many chances in the first leg, but luck was still on Real Madrid's side, which made Thibaut Courtois work hard to save his goal. The second leg was very good, especially in the first half where Manchester City had 72% of 100% ball possession. Real Madrid only defend not because they wanted to defend, but had to defend because Manchester City pressed quite intensely.

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Of course different games have different strategies that are applied and I think Inter Milan will try to survive as long as possible in the final match later and learn from Real Madrid's defeat precisely because Ancelotti implemented a defensive strategy in the first half. Agree or not, in the past the Italian League was known for having a pretty great defense and it was difficult to break the concentration of their defense, but today we don't see it 100% and the style of play has changed a lot.

I agree, Italian teams tend to have a strong defense. Juventus, Milan, Inter are some of the teams that are strong in defence. I remember how Inter defended well under Mourinho, but now their style has definitely changed.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on May 18, 2023, 09:57:26 AM

It's hard to stop Manchester City when they have been so impressive so far. They managed to beat two title contenders this season (Bayern Munich and Real Madrid), so it is clear that Manchester City's chances of win the title seem normal higher.

Probability of temporary victory for Manchester City is close to 70% versus Inter's 12%. I agree this probability will change because the final is still quite a long way off, but it doesn't seem like much if it's a fact that Manchester City don't have any problems with players' fitness and form. Right now Manchester City's main focus is to seal the Premier League title, and I think the game against Chelsea this weekend will be the final they will win.

It won't be much different if Man City's chances of winning the Champions League are above 70% in the final later and even I believe it will exceed the current percentage. This season Man City is really strong on all fronts and the match ended with a score of 4-0, showing how Pep Guardiola is able to make all his players play solid and coordinated, there are almost no mistakes made by Man City players, when they beat Real Madrid and their defense is under no pressure at all. Talking about the statistics and the quality of the players that both of them have, it can be concluded that Man City's chances are far greater to bring the title to the Etihad Stadium this season.

Of course different games have different strategies that are applied and I think Inter Milan will try to survive as long as possible in the final match later and learn from Real Madrid's defeat precisely because Ancelotti implemented a defensive strategy in the first half. Agree or not, in the past the Italian League was known for having a pretty great defense and it was difficult to break the concentration of their defense, but today we don't see it 100% and the style of play has changed a lot.

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It definitely looks like it could finally be the season where Manchester City is winning the big Champions League title. It is still not a safe thing, that ManCity will win the Champions League though. I mean obviously they are the huge favorite in the final against Inter Milan but the fact that this is already the final and therefore only 1 game gets played increases the chances of Inter drastically in my opinion. In one match everything can happen and it is always possible that not the better team is winning a game the one that simply has more luck. So if Inter is able to score a goal after a corner kick or a free kick or something then everything is possible in the final.

Manchester City has a high chance of winning the final match. Inter are good defensively and maybe on the counter too. But in any case, I don't want to underestimate Manchester City who have evolved to become the strongest team this season as the favorite finalists in terms of the title. They have a big mission about the treble, FA Cup, Premier League and Champions League.

Of course I can't say it's been a perfect season for Pep Guardiola and Manchester City yet. But when they have 2 finals and 1 title match determination (Premier League) then we can expect them to be a team that has been quite successful so far this season in creating the chance.

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That happened because of the decline that Real Madrid has shown this season, so much of the decline that is very visible from Real Madrid. They are not usually able to put mental pressure on opponents, but lately they seem to be losing it. I don't know if this is the effect of Ancelotti's strategy which tends to be monotonous or if there are other things that are internal problems at Real Madrid.

I think we should not be to harsh with Real Madrid now. In my opinion they have shown a good performance again the Champions League overall and now they have been stopped by the best team in the world at the moment, which is not a big shame. Yes the 0-4 in the second leg looks like they were completely outclassed, but that result obviously came together because of the fact that Real had to try everything in order to score 2 goals to get into the extra time and then ManCity scored another two goal pretty close to the end of the match already. Manchester City definitely deserved to reach the final but it was not like Real had no chance at all. Kroos hit the post when it was 1-0, if that ball goes in, the whole game would have been different.

The reason most people think Ancelotti should get fired and he couldn't have a good performance is that they expect Real Madrid to always be the first hope for the champions league, also Real Madrid is a team they achieved many titles in the champions league and Ancelotti is an experienced coach that's why they were expecting to see Real Madrid winning this game.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 18, 2023, 11:01:50 AM

Having this type of win can definitely mean only good things for them. Looking for the current situation, they can win the league title, they can win the fa cup and they can win the UCL this season.

It definitely looks like it could finally be the season where Manchester City is winning the big Champions League title. It is still not a safe thing, that ManCity will win the Champions League though. I mean obviously they are the huge favorite in the final against Inter Milan but the fact that this is already the final and therefore only 1 game gets played increases the chances of Inter drastically in my opinion. In one match everything can happen and it is always possible that not the better team is winning a game the one that simply has more luck. So if Inter is able to score a goal after a corner kick or a free kick or something then everything is possible in the final.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 18, 2023, 11:01:50 AM

Having this type of win can definitely mean only good things for them. Looking for the current situation, they can win the league title, they can win the fa cup and they can win the UCL this season.

Pep definitely built a team that is better than any we have seen in a long time, maybe the only better team I can remember would be Real team that won 3 in a row and Barcelona team that did sextuple, those are the only other two teams I can remember that is better, that means when you consider 10-15 years in the past, that is just 1-2 seasons total with 1 team, that is an all time good team. I sense that they will get the league by the looks of it, and Inter should b easy, not saying they will get it neither, they may or they may not, but I can say that they have the biggest chance compared to Inter.

When Manchester City managed to overthrow the king of Europe so sadistically, it was hard for me to doubt their ability to plan to win their first Champions League title this season. Pep Guardiola is a coach who never failed to lead Manchester City to win the Champions League title against Chelsea in the final, but he is a good coach to learn from and correct his mistakes the next time.

This season Manchester City have been favorites for the title since the round of 16. They are one of the best among Napoli, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and PSG, and when they are in the final I think I will no longer doubt them.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on May 18, 2023, 09:05:10 AM

Manchester City are favorite to win the Champions league, but the Italians can still do something, they have a slight chance. Manchester City are the best team in the world now from their record this season and how fearlessly they have played against the top teams in the world and won them, if Inter Milan will win, they have to accept their position as the team expected to loose, build a strategy around that and try to use it to their advantage. There are some good players in Inter Milan and with the five men they play with in their midfield, if they can have a strong midfield and be the dominant side there, they can be a problem to Manchester City.

Inter, who are the Underdog team, will try their best not to be easily beaten. Although I personally am from the power classification Manchester City excels. They have a much more stable squad than Inter. But Inter is not to be underestimated and in the Final a miracle can happen anytime, especially when it comes to winning trophies.

Quote from: masulum on May 18, 2023, 09:13:47 AM

I think Inter Milan will struggle to beat Man. City. If we look at the composition of the players, City is much better than Inter Milan. Guardiola also understands how to bring his team to stay calm when his team under pressure. They will almost win the EPL title, so UCL title will complete City's achievements this season, FA Cup title maybe as a bonus. Inter are statistically better than before, but I'm not sure it's enough against City.

Well, it looks like Pep Guardiola will present 3 titles as well as the first coach to make Man City dream come true so far. Actually, Inter here doesn't benefit much even though they have reached the Final, because in the end they are facing the best club of the season. Quite curious how Inzaghi will challenge Pep Guardiola strategy at the top of the Champions League final later.

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