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We know hiring better players and spending too much money can't be the reason for the teams to have a better performance against each other and we just saw that about Real Madrid and Barcelona, Barcelona spent less money than Real Madrid but they won the friendly match they had. This can be the reason to say regardless of the financial issues in Barcelona I think they can also have the chance to even race for the title in the Champions League.

Financially sound Real Madrid could easily build the squad they want, but I admit that was not the only reason why we won the title. Barcelona, which is continuously rumored to be in poor financial condition, actually impressed in many pre-season matches including when they beat Real Madrid, but that is also not a benchmark that can be the reason that Barcelona will win La Liga this season.

Xavi as a former Barcelona midfield maestro really understands Barcelona well. He works sincerely and builds the quality of his team very well. He has learned a lot from his failures despite the fact that Barcelona's squad depth cannot be expected to succeed in the Champions League. I believe Real Madrid won't beat Barcelona easily, but Real Madrid are a team better prepared to do it.

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Considering the fact that we are not getting the expected performance from Real Madrid and Barcelona are performing better than our expectations, it can be assumed that Barcelona will do well in the Champions League next season.

We can only assume that Barcelona performed better next season in the Champions League, it's been a long time since they performed more than expected of them.
Nobody would likely consider Real Madrid to be a serious contender for the champions league trophy by the next season, in my opinion. Their Laliga and Champions League games will be affected by their failure to sign Mbappe or the lack of a quality striker in their squad. They may not be able to win any trophies at the end of the next season if they lack a quality striker. which hasn't been done in a while.

We know hiring better players and spending too much money can't be the reason for the teams to have a better performance against each other and we just saw that about Real Madrid and Barcelona, Barcelona spent less money than Real Madrid but they won the friendly match they had. This can be the reason to say regardless of the financial issues in Barcelona I think they can also have the chance to even race for the title in the Champions League.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 11, 2023, 01:29:41 PM

Some teams who end up with problems like these could end up having a rougher start and a better ending to the season. But the most important games of Galatasaray is these ones. There aren't that many clubs in Turkey that goes to champions league every single season, it's a rare situation and if they can't be in the group stages, then they might as well not play the rest of the season neither.

Winning the league doesn't seem to be giving a lot, it's like a few million euros, and that means UCL group stages means a lot of money for them. This means that they need to reach to a point where they end up with a good return one way or another, and that seems to be the most important part. Hence, these early games matter more than most late stage games.

Turkish league win has meaning to them but the champions league js always a better peice of the cake. Galatasaray has a good team this season that can maybe even pass the group faze and thats what the fans want to see. So far their fans can be satisfied

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 11, 2023, 11:46:35 AM

I think Munich may have found suitable replacement for Lewandowski, you know both Lewandowski and Harry Kane are good scorers. They have good enough ability to score lot of goals, however before that Kane must have to adapt to the Munich squad and I think it is not something difficult for him. Because you know Thomas Tuchel is recreating his match strategy, so maybe Kane can quickly adapt himself to the players of the Munich team.

When you have a great coach and a great player, adaptation of the player becomes easier. Harry Kane won’t find it hard to adapt to the Bundesliga with a coach like Thomas Tuchel. Some people think the premier league is the most competitive and difficult league to play in Europe. If Harry Kane haven left the premier league and about to start a new journey in Bayern, then he’ll find it easier than what he experienced in premier league. Bayern Munich are lucky to have such a great player joining them this season.

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The strongest team in the Bundesliga is Munich. With such a squad, Munich may not have much trouble winning the Bundesliga title. At the same time, Munich's main target will be the Champions League. Harry Kane is most likely to win both these titles. The Munich team can be considered as the most favorite for the Champions League title next season. But everything still depends on Thomas Tuchel's match strategy.

I’m not too bothered about him winning the champions league trophy in his first season with Bayern Munich but I really want him to have a trophy to his name by the end of this season. He was not lucky to win anything with Tottenham despite how good he is, I don’t feel he’ll find it hard winning a trophy here. Winning the champions league trophy this first season will also be a bonus to him but that won’t be a priority for him now, but if they can make it happen, it’s still all good for him and his new team.

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Quote from: Liberalisasi on August 11, 2023, 01:22:24 PM

So which team do you think has a great chance of winning the Champions League title next season?

The answer is simple to me theoretically: Manchester City. Grin

Bookmakers think the same as me also that they have been the absolute favourite in the recent times. But it is totally normal considering how solid their squad is and how great manager they have. But even though they are the biggest favourite by far there is still nothing guaranteed of course. Even last season Manchester City didn't have a comfortable title. Inter made quite big difficulties for them.

But I will still be supporting Manchester City for a back-to-back title despite its not being an easy task.

It's only natural that Manchstr city is the favorite this season after successfully winning the Champions League trophy last season but you also have to remember that there are other clubs that can turn your favorite club into a loser because it's still Bayern Munich who will have Harry Kane and be able to compete with Haaland after that there's Real madrid has experienced winning the champions league title several times which also provides a great opportunity to beat City as well as Arsenal and Manchste United.
So even though a big club that has or has just won a champions league title and has top players at the club will be favorites in every season, we never forget that surprises always happen like Manchester city last season which was unexpectedly able to beat Inter milan and Real Madrid.

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So which team do you think has a great chance of winning the Champions League title next season?

The Champions league is really going to be very competitive this time around,because almost all the big teams will be looking forward to winning it.Manchester city are champions and I know Guardiola quite well that he will want to retain that tittle just as he did in the premier league,winning the Champions league back to back will be his primary target this season but it isn't just going to be possible like that because there are other teams who are really in quest for this Titttle,a team like Bayern,PSG,Arsenal,Napoli and even Inter are also eying this tittle,that is why it will really be competitive this season.Right now I can't really tell who is the favourite because the season has not started well,most teams are yet to play their games,and I will be able to pick a team after like five games.

I do not understand how this season's Champions League will look like. If it were to be before I will rightly predict at least to some level of accuracy. But this season we have seen that many good players. Have left Europe to South and this shift will automatically have impact in the Champions League.
Talking about people that would likely be the champion. I will say that the most favourite is still Manchester City. Apart from Manchester City is Real Madrid. There will not be very much difference between last season Champions League at this season.

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I knew you made a typo, but just in case, I checked - the Rangers took not 10th but second place in the Scottish League. In general, there are only two big teams and it is impossible for them to take a place lower than the second. I don't even know if this has happened in the last 20-30 years. The periods of dominance of Celtic and Rangers change but they are always at the top.
As for the bet, it's hard to choose because the Rangers will be happy even with draw. Therefore, betting on a simple victory is too risky.

Well I think the difference is huge if we consider the name of each team where Glasgow Rangers is one of the two legendary teams in Scotland having won many titles where Servette at least these 20 last years have not been consistent at all so the quality clearly indicate that Glasgow Rangers should qualify for the group stages most likely.The only problem they have is that they by themselves complicated the game when they were leading 2-0 they concede a penalty which was turned into goal by Servette.I have seen the game though and the quality difference was obvious,I don't think such quality difference can be overturn just by playing in your home stadium but let's see.

As I understand it, when Servette was in the minority, they played bus? How else to explain that the Rangers could not increase the score in their favor. I don't know what their plan is for the home game but since the bus is going so well for them they might play it again hoping for an occasional goal or a push at the end of normal time. The paradox is that the Rangers may also play the upcoming game defensively first, so I don't want to bet on them to simple win and the double chance bet is too low to be interesting.

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Quote from: Liberalisasi on August 11, 2023, 01:22:24 PM

So which team do you think has a great chance of winning the Champions League title next season?

The Champions league is really going to be very competitive this time around,because almost all the big teams will be looking forward to winning it.Manchester city are champions and I know Guardiola quite well that he will want to retain that tittle just as he did in the premier league,winning the Champions league back to back will be his primary target this season but it isn't just going to be possible like that because there are other teams who are really in quest for this Titttle,a team like Bayern,PSG,Arsenal,Napoli and even Inter are also eying this tittle,that is why it will really be competitive this season.Right now I can't really tell who is the favourite because the season has not started well,most teams are yet to play their games,and I will be able to pick a team after like five games.

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Quote from: Liberalisasi on August 11, 2023, 01:22:24 PM

So which team do you think has a great chance of winning the Champions League title next season?

No one knows for sure which team will win it, but you can easily find several favorite teams based on the quality of their players.
Manchester City, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter and PSG are the 4 teams that in my opinion can be favorites in the Champions League next season. But if I had to choose one, I think Manchester City would be the first.

Based on the current form of the team that Manchester City has, I think they deserve to be the favorites to defend the Champions League title next season. I have no hesitation in saying that although it is true that the Champions League is never easy. Real Madrid are certainly good, but if they don't have a striker who can replace Benzema then I think they will miss another final.

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Some teams who end up with problems like these could end up having a rougher start and a better ending to the season. But the most important games of Galatasaray is these ones. There aren't that many clubs in Turkey that goes to champions league every single season, it's a rare situation and if they can't be in the group stages, then they might as well not play the rest of the season neither.

Winning the league doesn't seem to be giving a lot, it's like a few million euros, and that means UCL group stages means a lot of money for them. This means that they need to reach to a point where they end up with a good return one way or another, and that seems to be the most important part. Hence, these early games matter more than most late stage games.

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Quote from: Liberalisasi on August 11, 2023, 01:22:24 PM

So which team do you think has a great chance of winning the Champions League title next season?

The answer is simple to me theoretically: Manchester City. Grin

Bookmakers think the same as me also that they have been the absolute favourite in the recent times. But it is totally normal considering how solid their squad is and how great manager they have. But even though they are the biggest favourite by far there is still nothing guaranteed of course. Even last season Manchester City didn't have a comfortable title. Inter made quite big difficulties for them.

But I will still be supporting Manchester City for a back-to-back title despite its not being an easy task.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 11, 2023, 03:42:29 AM

Bayern Munich has a top striker for next season's champions league and now they are a threat again for other teams after last season was not so convincing because there was no good finisher in front of the opponent's goal. Thomas Tuchel is very sure that the presence of Harry Kane will make Bayern Munich more mature and he can apply the strategy he wants. On the other hand, Harry Kane is certainly very happy because he can return to appear in Europe's highest competition and if he stays at Spurs he will lose his chance to play. Is it possible that Bayern Munich will surprise all the teams and advance to the Champions League final? we have to wait what happens next.

This is good news that Kane has finally been transfered to Bayern Munich. This is a change in the team as they will be looking forward to win the champions league this season. Kane will have a wonderful time in Bayern and I believe that his impact will be felt in the club. It wouldn't be easy to defeat Bayern anymore.

Kane will be successful with his new club because he now has the opportunity to win the European trophies as Bayern is a big team. This means that the champions league will be more competitive than last season and I hope that Manchester city are prepared for it too.

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Bayern Munich may have found a suitable replacement for Lewandowski. Lewandowski and Harry Kane are both scorers. They have the ability to score a lot of goals. But before that, Kane will have to adapt to the Munich squad. It won't be difficult. Because their coach Thomas Tuchel is re-creating his match strategy. So maybe Kane can quickly adapt himself to the players of the Munich team.
The strongest team in the Bundesliga is Munich. With such a squad, Munich may not have much trouble winning the Bundesliga title. At the same time, Munich's main target will be the Champions League. Harry Kane is most likely to win both these titles. The Munich team can be considered as the most favorite for the Champions League title next season. But everything still depends on Thomas Tuchel's match strategy.

Now Thomas Tuchel only has to think about a temporary coating for Manuel Nuer, Yan Sommer has officially moved to Inter Milan. If it is true that Tuchel wants Kepa Arrizabalaga then they must move quickly to secure the Chelsea goalkeeper, because there are rumors that Madrid are also looking for cover for the injured Courtois and Kepa is on their radar as well. Ancelotti and Tuchel have links with Chelsea as both were coaches at Stamford Bridge, so it will be interesting to wait for the end of Kepa transfer.

On the other hand how will Tottenham go through this season without Harry Kane in their squad, will they be able to compete at the top of the EPL. I think even to finish in the UCL zone, Tottenham will encounter difficulties.

Bayern Munich should have tried to keep Sommer in the squad. Good enough coach Sommer. I don't know why Munich let Sommer go. Bayern Munich are in desperate need of a good goalkeeper. Otherwise they won't be able to compete against the big teams in the Champions League. We have seen great performances from Munich in friendly matches. However, the team conceded goals in every match. Without an experienced striker, it will be much more difficult to win the Champions League title.

Kane was the main player of Tottenham team. The team is weak without Kane. Now Tottenham's main striker will be Richarlison and SOn. SOn is quite experienced but Richarlisong is still very inexperienced. Can't expect too many goals from him. It is also unlikely to see a Tottenham team in the top 6 of the Premier League next season.

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The other day i was seeing the team of Bayern mumich and i thinked to myself, "damn! they really need a big star and a foward more precisely", and finally they ended up bying Harry Kane, for one side i think its an amazing transfer, but for Harry Kane its a little bit sad not ended in another big team of England to break records and win the Premier League.

But well again like all the years with this buy, Bayern Munich its again a contender for Champions League.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 11, 2023, 08:31:11 AM

We know hiring better players and spending too much money can't be the reason for the teams to have a better performance against each other and we just saw that about Real Madrid and Barcelona, Barcelona spent less money than Real Madrid but they won the friendly match they had. This can be the reason to say regardless of the financial issues in Barcelona I think they can also have the chance to even race for the title in the Champions League.

Quality players owned by a team will support good performance for the team itself, but this does not guarantee their success in winning the title. So even if a team has spent hundreds of millions of euros in one season to build their squad with quality players, it may not necessarily bring them success at the end of the season. The performance of the team can be expected to be better if there are a lot of quality players, that is the point.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are very different in their approaches to transfers. Barcelona who are in financial trouble tend to sign free players and also promote some players from the academy, whereas Real Madrid has spent a lot of money to bring in some expensive players. But these two teams have different chances about the title and it all depends on the game strategy and the quality of the team they have.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 11, 2023, 11:46:35 AM

I think Munich may have found suitable replacement for Lewandowski, you know both Lewandowski and Harry Kane are good scorers. They have good enough ability to score lot of goals, however before that Kane must have to adapt to the Munich squad and I think it is not something difficult for him. Because you know Thomas Tuchel is recreating his match strategy, so maybe Kane can quickly adapt himself to the players of the Munich team.

The strongest team in the Bundesliga is Munich. With such a squad, Munich may not have much trouble winning the Bundesliga title. At the same time, Munich's main target will be the Champions League. Harry Kane is most likely to win both these titles. The Munich team can be considered as the most favorite for the Champions League title next season. But everything still depends on Thomas Tuchel's match strategy.

Even if Bayern are targeting a trophy in this competition, it will not be easy for them to make it happen, even though they already have Kane as a goal machine for their team. at least, let's see first how the game scheme they play in the domestic league competition.

But if it's for the Bundesliga title, no one disagrees that it will be difficult to break Bayern Munich's dominance. Last season, Bayern had a bit of a problem because they didn't have a striker who they always relied on to score goals. but in fact, they are still the bundesliga champions even though there is tough competition going on. this season, Tuchel can smile more because the players who are the priority have been successfully brought to the Allianz Arena. for the Champions League, Tuchel must work hard so that his team can progress smoothly.
The problem is, there are many competitors that absolutely cannot be underestimated. in particular, teams from the premier league who are quite ready to compete in the Champions League competition are no exception to defending champions Manchester City. To be honest I can't wait for the draw of this competition, I want to see some of my favorite teams compete and show what they are capable of.

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With the help of Thomas Tuchel, Munich is trying to build a stronger team. Their main target will be the Champions League. And it is for this purpose that the Munich management is building their team. I heard rumors today that Kane's signing with Munich is going to be final. The Munich team will be able to perform better in the Champions League if Harry Kane is in the squad.

Tuchel failed at Chelsea, but he managed to win the Bundesliga title with Bayern Munich last season.
I'm not sure about his ability in the Champions League next season even though Tuchel won that title with Chelsea a few seasons ago. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Inter, Napoli and several other teams are the superior teams, so it is difficult to expect Bayern Munich to win the title even if in the end Kane plays for them next season.

Tuchel could not stabilize the Bayern Munich team last season. Bayern Munich were very lucky so they were able to secure the title. But I won't give this credit to Tuchel.
However, the Munich team managed to bring Harry Kane to the team in the end. And now I think they are a perfect team. I don't see any weakness in this team yet. Next season's Champions League is expected to be more crowded.

He had a fundamental reason when last season he failed to stabilize Bayern Munich, it was because of the short time he got. Who would have thought that Bayern Munich would sack Nagelsmann at that point? Da. Most of us were shocked when we heard that Bayern Munich had terminated their partnership with Nagelsmann, whereas at that time they had a big Champions League match coming up and it was going to determine whether they could go all the way or not. And they ended up having to stop.
Now the situation is much different because he's had plenty of time to adapt, and some of the players did recommend him.

I don't blame Tuchel for not stabilizing Bayern Munich last season. Because there were problems within the Munich management. The Munich management changed their coach before several important matches. Its ill effects were seen in Munich's performance. It cannot be blamed on Thomas Tuchel. Nagelsmann was doing very well with Munich. Nagelsmann was then abruptly fired. I would say this was a stupid decision by the Munich management.

you are right Now the situation is different. Tuchel has had enough time to work with the team. And Munich's performance has been steady. We have seen better performances from Munich in friendly matches. If they can continue this performance, they can easily secure the Bundesliga title.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 11, 2023, 11:46:35 AM

Bayern Munich may have found a suitable replacement for Lewandowski. Lewandowski and Harry Kane are both scorers. They have the ability to score a lot of goals. But before that, Kane will have to adapt to the Munich squad. It won't be difficult. Because their coach Thomas Tuchel is re-creating his match strategy. So maybe Kane can quickly adapt himself to the players of the Munich team.
The strongest team in the Bundesliga is Munich. With such a squad, Munich may not have much trouble winning the Bundesliga title. At the same time, Munich's main target will be the Champions League. Harry Kane is most likely to win both these titles. The Munich team can be considered as the most favorite for the Champions League title next season. But everything still depends on Thomas Tuchel's match strategy.

Now Thomas Tuchel only has to think about a temporary coating for Manuel Nuer, Yan Sommer has officially moved to Inter Milan. If it is true that Tuchel wants Kepa Arrizabalaga then they must move quickly to secure the Chelsea goalkeeper, because there are rumors that Madrid are also looking for cover for the injured Courtois and Kepa is on their radar as well. Ancelotti and Tuchel have links with Chelsea as both were coaches at Stamford Bridge, so it will be interesting to wait for the end of Kepa transfer.

On the other hand how will Tottenham go through this season without Harry Kane in their squad, will they be able to compete at the top of the EPL. I think even to finish in the UCL zone, Tottenham will encounter difficulties.

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With the help of Thomas Tuchel, Munich is trying to build a stronger team. Their main target will be the Champions League. And it is for this purpose that the Munich management is building their team. I heard rumors today that Kane's signing with Munich is going to be final. The Munich team will be able to perform better in the Champions League if Harry Kane is in the squad.

Tuchel failed at Chelsea, but he managed to win the Bundesliga title with Bayern Munich last season.
I'm not sure about his ability in the Champions League next season even though Tuchel won that title with Chelsea a few seasons ago. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Inter, Napoli and several other teams are the superior teams, so it is difficult to expect Bayern Munich to win the title even if in the end Kane plays for them next season.

Tuchel could not stabilize the Bayern Munich team last season. Bayern Munich were very lucky so they were able to secure the title. But I won't give this credit to Tuchel.
However, the Munich team managed to bring Harry Kane to the team in the end. And now I think they are a perfect team. I don't see any weakness in this team yet. Next season's Champions League is expected to be more crowded.

He had a fundamental reason when last season he failed to stabilize Bayern Munich, it was because of the short time he got. Who would have thought that Bayern Munich would sack Nagelsmann at that point? Da. Most of us were shocked when we heard that Bayern Munich had terminated their partnership with Nagelsmann, whereas at that time they had a big Champions League match coming up and it was going to determine whether they could go all the way or not. And they ended up having to stop.
Now the situation is much different because he's had plenty of time to adapt, and some of the players did recommend him.

Bayern Munich have failed to exploit a player like Sadio Mane. I think Sadio Mane is an extraordinary forward that can change the team's results at any moment. I still don't understand why Bayern Munich couldn't bring Sadio Mane.

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