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Oh damn those Madrid defenders got me heart attack
Exactly mate, Dortmund just lost two great chances that was suppose to be a goal, the first was by Adeyemi had a one on one with Coutua and he missed it. Second chance hit the bar. Dortmund is pressuring seriously to break the deadlock but lucky is denying them from having a goal.

Real Madrid is doing all the playing with no good chance of finding the back of the net, but i believe that if they have a chance they will score. Dortmund game strategy is as if it wants to outsmart Real Madrid game pattern. No team should be underrated in a final game.
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The UEFA Champions League final match between Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund is about to kick off at London’s historic Wembley Stadium. The excitement is palpable as fans eagerly anticipate this clash of football titans. Both teams have announced their starting lineups, and the stage is set for a thrilling showdown.

Borussia Dortmund's starting XI against Real Madrid: Ryerson, Hummels, Schlotterbeck, Maatsen; Emre Can, Sabitzer; Adeyemi, Brandt, Sancho; Füllkrug.
Real Madrid's starting XI against Borussia Dortmund: Courtois, Carvajal, Rüdiger, Alaba, Camavinga, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Benzema.
Benzema? I think you are in the wrong TV channel so please switch it before you watch an old match, haha. I wish we can still watch Benzema playing for Real Madrid where we can be sure about their win and many goals are going to be scored by him. The match is starting in few seconds now before my post and I’m always feeling some surprises in this match as I mentioned always.
It is more entertaining when there is a bet set on such events and wishing your favorite and the team you bet on win, However, it is also stressing that Real Madrid is playing with more confidence this time which is a very negative thing in my opinion, we use to see them under more pressure and win the match at the very last minutes, but now it is so different and that is what we didn’t use to see with the white house. Knowing that Dortmund will play their best and performance will be much better than any other game.

I accidentally mentioned last year’s Real Madrid line-up. I would also want to watch Benzema in a Real Madrid jersey again. My initial impressions of the match are that Dortmund needs to pay attention to Carvajal. Meanwhile, Dortmund’s shot hit the post, coming very close to scoring. By the way, Emre Can was injured in Dortmund.
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Oh damn those Madrid defenders got me heart attack
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Ancelotti is a very wicked coach... This rotation will tell much on the Dortmund players. At every time, they will be struggling to defend against 4 important finishes. See what will happen, Valverder will be covering the right wing, there there's Bellingham. Then Bellingham will play free role and join the midfield and attack at will. This is a very dangerous formation. Anybody can just brace in and score goal at any time.

Concerning the odds, remember it is finals and also do not forget that Real Madrid is obviously better than Dortmund. There's obviously going to be issues relating the odds.
In the first minute of the game the security had a problem. There were 3 fans on the field and the security couldnt stop them for an long time and on the end it was embarrassing. But now it is all over and they are ready to play. The atmosphere at wembley in front of 86,000 fans is insane and it deserves at least 3 goals in the game. If Real dont score in the first 90 minutes today, it will be very surprising. I would bet on Real Madrid as the winner and a goal from dortmund, maybe Sancho will do it.
From what I have seen so far it's seem both are quite cautious of their play and wouldn't want to mess up anything so I think the goals and maybe the goal winning margin wont be that very much except every decides to turn out differently at the end so I have seen but I might be wrong as the game is just beginning and both teams are trying to get into their strides.
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Ancelotti is a very wicked coach... This rotation will tell much on the Dortmund players. At every time, they will be struggling to defend against 4 important finishes. See what will happen, Valverder will be covering the right wing, there there's Bellingham. Then Bellingham will play free role and join the midfield and attack at will. This is a very dangerous formation. Anybody can just brace in and score goal at any time.

Concerning the odds, remember it is finals and also do not forget that Real Madrid is obviously better than Dortmund. There's obviously going to be issues relating the odds.
In the first minute of the game the security had a problem. There were 3 fans on the field and the security couldnt stop them for an long time and on the end it was embarrassing. But now it is all over and they are ready to play. The atmosphere at wembley in front of 86,000 fans is insane and it deserves at least 3 goals in the game. If Real dont score in the first 90 minutes today, it will be very surprising. I would bet on Real Madrid as the winner and a goal from dortmund, maybe Sancho will do it.
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The both teams have the chances of winning because they are both in a good condition now, but Real Madrid have the higher chances of making it due to the regular participation and it have become part of them, this alone creates fear in the mind of opponent when they are facing Real Madrid in champions league final, they have the experience and currently they are in their best form, but still i can predict this game, let wait for the time and see who comes out champion.

Real Madrid are always favourites to win the championship league and when they get to the finals, it is always difficult for any other team to defeat them. Real Madrid has a better squad and more experienced players therefore Dortmund are going to be playing the biggest match of their career. Real Madrid has a better and more experienced coach, everything is in favour of Real Madrid to win and it will be very surprising if Dortmund come out victorious but I would not say it can not happen because what determine if a teams is going to win is their determination on the football field. If Dortmund knowing that this might be their only chance to get the Champions League trophy and play with all their strength, they can pressure Real Madrid into accepting defeat because no team is above getting defeated.
I agree with you that Real Madrid has a better squad and more experienced players to win the UEFA Champions League trophy tonight, but I disagree with you in saying that Borussia Dortmund will play the biggest match of their career. This is not the first time Borussia Dortmund has gotten to this stage in the UEFA Champions League competition, so it is not the biggest match in their career. Have you forgotten the UEFA Champions League finals between Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund played some years ago? That year, no club would match the Bayern Munich squad in the UEFA Champions League competition, but they struggled to beat Borussia Dortmund 2-1 in the finals, thanks to Arjen Robben's late goal. This is not the first time Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid have met in the UEFA Champions League competition. When Lewandowski was still playing for Borussia Dortmund, they had won Real Madrid 4-2 in the UEFA Champions League competition, and Cristiano Ronaldo was also playing at Real Madrid.
Dortmund win against Real Madrid was actually a very long time and beside those set of players are actually no more and same for Real Madrid but like the papers and everyone would think it's actually quite clearer in the side of Real Madrid but football sometimes can be funny and with what I have seen so far it's seem the underdogs are all winners of this year finals, @FA CUP, EUROPA LEAGUE, CONFERENCE EUROPA LEAGUE
I knew it had been a long time since Borussia Dortmund defeated Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League competition. I brought that up so that $weetne$$ would know that this match is not the biggest match for Borussia Dortmund in their career. The UEFA Champions League finals have started. Let's wait and see the outcome of the UEFA Champions League finals.
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The UEFA Champions League final match between Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund is about to kick off at London’s historic Wembley Stadium. The excitement is palpable as fans eagerly anticipate this clash of football titans. Both teams have announced their starting lineups, and the stage is set for a thrilling showdown.

Borussia Dortmund's starting XI against Real Madrid: Ryerson, Hummels, Schlotterbeck, Maatsen; Emre Can, Sabitzer; Adeyemi, Brandt, Sancho; Füllkrug.
Real Madrid's starting XI against Borussia Dortmund: Courtois, Carvajal, Rüdiger, Alaba, Camavinga, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Benzema.
Benzema? I think you are in the wrong TV channel so please switch it before you watch an old match, haha. I wish we can still watch Benzema playing for Real Madrid where we can be sure about their win and many goals are going to be scored by him. The match is starting in few seconds now before my post and I’m always feeling some surprises in this match as I mentioned always.
It is more entertaining when there is a bet set on such events and wishing your favorite and the team you bet on win, However, it is also stressing that Real Madrid is playing with more confidence this time which is a very negative thing in my opinion, we use to see them under more pressure and win the match at the very last minutes, but now it is so different and that is what we didn’t use to see with the white house. Knowing that Dortmund will play their best and performance will be much better than any other game.

I guess Bellingham is what OP meant to type, but then it really is a weird mistake to make  Grin


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I'm hedging my bet against Real Madrid taking the lead at halftime and not losing it decision from the BSFL, by going with a bet on the half time stalemate here. I don't expect the teams to start firing on a cylinder, there should be a more conservative approach and gradual settlement into the match rhythm.

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The UEFA Champions League final match between Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund is about to kick off at London’s historic Wembley Stadium. The excitement is palpable as fans eagerly anticipate this clash of football titans. Both teams have announced their starting lineups, and the stage is set for a thrilling showdown.

Borussia Dortmund's starting XI against Real Madrid: Ryerson, Hummels, Schlotterbeck, Maatsen; Emre Can, Sabitzer; Adeyemi, Brandt, Sancho; Füllkrug.
Real Madrid's starting XI against Borussia Dortmund: Courtois, Carvajal, Rüdiger, Alaba, Camavinga, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Benzema.
Benzema? I think you are in the wrong TV channel so please switch it before you watch an old match, haha. I wish we can still watch Benzema playing for Real Madrid where we can be sure about their win and many goals are going to be scored by him. The match is starting in few seconds now before my post and I’m always feeling some surprises in this match as I mentioned always.
It is more entertaining when there is a bet set on such events and wishing your favorite and the team you bet on win, However, it is also stressing that Real Madrid is playing with more confidence this time which is a very negative thing in my opinion, we use to see them under more pressure and win the match at the very last minutes, but now it is so different and that is what we didn’t use to see with the white house. Knowing that Dortmund will play their best and performance will be much better than any other game.
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Of course, Real Madrid should win comfortably. The same result would have occurred if PSG and Real Madrid had met. Ancelotti and Real Madrid have competed here as a club for years and have probably always won. Now, when we consider these data, who do you think thinks emotionally? I have an idea about who thinks emotionally. Actually, the match will start in half an hour and we will all see what will happen.

There is no clear favorite in any final match. It's difficult for them to win games comfortably. Both teams will try to play their best game. I don't think Dortmund will give up easily and anyone who thinks Real Madrid will win comfortably tonight will be wrong. But that's not enough to bet on Dortmund. I just want to enjoy the game. I can't lose money and get upset in the final. Grin

At least I still very cautious, because the previous two finals had surprises about non-seeded teams managed to win.Therefore,  it is still possible to happen in the Champions League final match will also have results that may be very opposite from what is expected. Although indeed,I also admit that the quality and chances of Real Madrid do not need to be doubted but still, because the previous two finals were a surprise, so it is possible that the surprise will actually continue until this moment too. Therefore, with such an incident, it is at least a sign for bettors maybe not to be too confident to put a lot of money on Real Madrid victory but yes, good luck to you guys.
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Here's the line up.

Ancelotti is using a different strategy, now he rotate Bellingham to play in right wing position. Most of the time when he played in other position except attacking midfielder, he doesn't play really good, this is quite risky.



Im still wondering WHY Borusia Dortmund odds are only 5? and are 5 not for became champion, but for win in the regular time , total crazy, for me Borussia Dortmund odds cant be lower than 8.00 for that market.

Maybe what is happening is so much people is putting money on them so the odds are becoming lower and lowers waiting for a surprise.
Look at the bright side, this mean many people are believe in Dortmund, which make the odds become 5. And... this make Real Madrid odds increase, since you think Real Madrid will definitely win this match, don't miss to bet on Real Madrid.
Ancelotti is a very wicked coach... This rotation will tell much on the Dortmund players. At every time, they will be struggling to defend against 4 important finishes. See what will happen, Valverder will be covering the right wing, there there's Bellingham. Then Bellingham will play free role and join the midfield and attack at will. This is a very dangerous formation. Anybody can just brace in and score goal at any time.

Concerning the odds, remember it is finals and also do not forget that Real Madrid is obviously better than Dortmund. There's obviously going to be issues relating the odds.
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Two hours left before the match, Real Madrid announced their starting eleven against Dortmund, not change yet with current match of Madrid starting line up except Andrey Lunin position replacing by Thibaut Courtois and become his first appearance in Champion League match for this season after long time injury.
Little sad for Andrey Lunin become hero for Madrid when saving penalty kick against Manchester City in the quarter final, play since phase round until semifinal round but Lunin have absent in most crucial final match for Madrid.

madrid starting eleven.

Thibaut Courtois

Carvajal
Rudiger
Nacho
Mendy

Valverde
Camavinga
Toni Kroos

Rodrygo
Jude bellingham
Vinicius Junior
I'm keenly waiting for the game to start as I'm glued to my television.
Thibaut courtois being among the starting eleven for Madrid is surprising to me, as the second choice goal keeper is at his best at moment, so I would have preferred him, it could as well be that carlo Ancelotti is thinking maybe courtois has more experience.
The starting eleven for Madrid is not something out of expection, as they've always brought out three men attack whenever they are facing a crucial game, the central defence is locked with four men defence and  central midfield is mixed with both attacking and defensive midfielders, which is valverde, camavinga and Toni kroos.

Hey man am so angry right now because I am still far from home due to the level of traffic I experienced here but watching the game in the midst of football fans would have been my greatest joy but hopefully I will catch up the second half and I hope I don't get disappointed on seeing the score line after the first half. The Real Madrid coach has no better goal keeper to replace the second choice goal keeper other than Thibaut courtois since the first choice keeper is injured at the moment and can't be risked in this game since the first choice keeper is fit for the game dispite this game being his first champions league game this season.

Aside the change of goal keeper, other players are in good shape and there is no change in the players that were in action against Manchester City so I believe they will have a good game tonight hopefully they end up winning the trophy once again.
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As long as the game is not over, everything is still possible. Many people bet on Real Madrid because it is one of the strongest clubs in Europe, but what if Real Madrid's fate is not as lucky as predicted outside the match. Dortmund's hope is still there. They will try to give Real Madrid a fight by showing their best performance to produce a more competitive match. Dortmund will use this final to become one of the clubs to be reckoned with, beating Real Madrid in the final will make them even more confident in the following season.

Well, I haven't been visiting this thread much lately. After checking and reading it, I just realized that the match between Borussia Dortmund vs Madrid will be held soon. referring to the predicted composition of the two teams, it is very likely that there will be no changes to the pattern they usually apply. Dortmund with 4-2-3-1, Madrid with 4-3-1-2. However, it is very likely that Terzic will apply counterattack tactics and strategies. because playing openly against Madrid will be difficult and it is very likely that Madrid will break through Dortmund's goal more quickly. I tried to look at the odds for these two teams, Madrid's odds are quite ideal. while Dortmund, is quite big.So, it is certain that Real Madrid is further favored.

Regardless, I agree with you. Even though in this match Dormtund is more of a mediocre team, that doesn't mean they will just give up and let Real Madrid lift the Champions League trophy. moreover, the opportunity was right in front of them. What is certain is that Edin Terzic and his team will try their best to give Real Madrid a fight. So, before the fight starts and ends, anything can happen, even though on paper Real Madrid is the favorite to win. Well, what's unique about football is that it's not just about data and statistics, let alone calculations, anything can happen when a match is played. one mistake made by either team, can have a big impact on the outcome of this match. In this match, I will not side with any of the teams that will fight. After all, both Dortmund and Madrid want to lift the championship trophy. As a football lover and neutral supporter, I hope this fight is not boring. I hope Dortmund can provide resistance, so that this match will be interesting for us to watch and enjoy. Whoever wins, they are the ones who deserve to lift the Champions League trophy. so, let's wait and enjoy.


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The UEFA Champions League final match between Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund is about to kick off at London’s historic Wembley Stadium. The excitement is palpable as fans eagerly anticipate this clash of football titans. Both teams have announced their starting lineups, and the stage is set for a thrilling showdown.

Borussia Dortmund's starting XI against Real Madrid: Ryerson, Hummels, Schlotterbeck, Maatsen; Emre Can, Sabitzer; Adeyemi, Brandt, Sancho; Füllkrug.
Real Madrid's starting XI against Borussia Dortmund: Courtois, Carvajal, Rüdiger, Alaba, Camavinga, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Benzema.
The game will start in a few minutes and both teams are now starting to warm up a little bit in their respective areas, looking at the starting line-up that the two coaches fielded today, of course it can be seen that if both teams field their best squad to be able to beat each other today, the final match is certainly the most anticipated match by fans of both teams at the moment and I think the big hope is of course in Madrid fans who want to celebrating their 15th Champions League trophy of the season, Madrid are by far the favourites to win the final but I personally hope Dortmund will be able to make it difficult  and can even beat Madrid to break Madrid dominance.

Dortmund who performed poorly in the league certainly surprised for we this season because they were able to reach the final and even before maybe none of us here really hoped and predicted Dortmund could get this far, even I think Dortmund fans also did not expect that their favorite team could reach the final round and of course now they are starting to hope if they can get a second Champions League trophy this season after last winning in the season 1997.
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Two hours left before the match, Real Madrid announced their starting eleven against Dortmund, not change yet with current match of Madrid starting line up except Andrey Lunin position replacing by Thibaut Courtois and become his first appearance in Champion League match for this season after long time injury.
Little sad for Andrey Lunin become hero for Madrid when saving penalty kick against Manchester City in the quarter final, play since phase round until semifinal round but Lunin have absent in most crucial final match for Madrid.

madrid starting eleven.

Thibaut Courtois

Carvajal
Rudiger
Nacho
Mendy

Valverde
Camavinga
Toni Kroos

Rodrygo
Jude bellingham
Vinicius Junior
I'm keenly waiting for the game to start as I'm glued to my television.
Thibaut courtois being among the starting eleven for Madrid is surprising to me, as the second choice goal keeper is at his best at moment, so I would have preferred him, it could as well be that carlo Ancelotti is thinking maybe courtois has more experience.
The starting eleven for Madrid is not something out of expection, as they've always brought out three men attack whenever they are facing a crucial game, the central defence is locked with four men defence and  central midfield is mixed with both attacking and defensive midfielders, which is valverde, camavinga and Toni kroos.
Everyone is glued to their watching devices Grin, no one wants  to miss the start of a such an anticipated match...
Let's see what will really show up in today's game, surely I know it's going to be a tough one as almost everyone has the hope for realmadrid to win which they will need to proof wrong....
Today's game won't be more of possession as we all know that realmadrid aren't always after possession , maybe dortmund could do that too and forget about possession for goal Cheesy. Goal is the Goal  Cool
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Borussia Dortmund's starting XI against Real Madrid: Ryerson, Hummels, Schlotterbeck, Maatsen; Emre Can, Sabitzer; Adeyemi, Brandt, Sancho; Füllkrug.
Real Madrid's starting XI against Borussia Dortmund: Courtois, Carvajal, Rüdiger, Alaba, Camavinga, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Benzema.
From these confirmed lineups, I pick Real Madrid as the favorites to win the 2023/24 Champions League title.

Wembley will be a historic venue for Real Madrid fans all over the world to watch their favorite team make history in Europe's biggest competition.
At first I was hesitant in making my betting choice, but now I have chosen Real Madrid. Later when the match is in progress, I will place another bet.
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The UEFA champions league final is coming to an end today, i still have that confident on Borussia Dortmund to lift the trophy because they will like to use the strategy they have never use before since the beginning of this tournament to beat Real Madrid 1:0.

This game will look like surprise to Real Madrid players, the way Borussia Dortmund players will use all their chances well to secure goals that will give them victory, which we have seen something like this in the UEFA Europa league that made Atalanta to beat unbearable team to lift the trophy which Real Madrid will experience such thing today.

If Real Madrid succeed in this game to beat Borussia Dortmund to lift the trophy and also lift la Liga league trophy, it will make their fans to be making noise all over, but I know they will surely miss this trophy by mistake.

A narrow win I will agree because, the last four Champions League Competition finals have all ended the same way? Lol
Manchester City won 1--0 against Inter Milan, Real Madrid won 1--0 against Liverpool, Chelsea won 1--0 against Manchester City and then, Bayern Munich triumphed over Paris Saint Germans with the scoreline ending as  ,1--0.
I just hope it's not as you've said lol, I want a perfect good by for Toni Kroos and Luka Modric who I think will be also leaving the club despite keeping it low-key.

Games are decided on the pitch, but I would want to see that happening, I will watching this game from kick-off to the lifting of trophy let's zee how it goes.
I want to be perplexed, I want Borrussia Dortmund to do it for the legend Marco Reus leaving if they can. Lol.

Real Madrid fans are no noise maker's nor noise pollution. We all know Chelsea fans are the nosey and at the same time noisy. Whatever Real Madrid wins they've merited one way or the other.

Both teams have Legendary players announcing their retirement after this game. Yes, both teams are going to try their best to win this match. And of course, this is the most prestigious title after the World Cup. It is going to be a great achievement for the team which will be able to win. This is definitely going to be more valuable to Dortmund compared to Real Madrid. because Real Madrid has already been able to win so many Champions League but on the other hand has not been able to win the Champions League trophy as many times as Real Madrid. That does not mean Real Madrid is not going to take this match seriously. That also does not mean Dortmund is going to play better in this match. I mean they can play better. But this is not going to be the only reason.
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The UEFA Champions League final match between Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund is about to kick off at London’s historic Wembley Stadium. The excitement is palpable as fans eagerly anticipate this clash of football titans. Both teams have announced their starting lineups, and the stage is set for a thrilling showdown.

Borussia Dortmund's starting XI against Real Madrid: Ryerson, Hummels, Schlotterbeck, Maatsen; Emre Can, Sabitzer; Adeyemi, Brandt, Sancho; Füllkrug.
Real Madrid's starting XI against Borussia Dortmund: Courtois, Carvajal, Rüdiger, Alaba, Camavinga, Kroos, Modric, Valverde, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Benzema.
i think its too early as at the time you posted this, the real starting XI are revealed only from 30 minutes before kickoff time or less, coaches still most times alter the starting list for reasons best known to them. All other things you see on live score platforms are just guesses from the platform. Benzema has been out and in Saudi Arabia for quite some time now and I don't know if you want to bring him back to Madrid for the purpose of the Final only. I think you wanted to put Bellingham there though.

This is an opportunity for Dortmund to make history once again since their last champions league title was 1997. and it would mean a whole lot to the dynamics of finals this season. I am rooting for Dortmund as my favorites, have my stakes on them and would love to see them celebrate victory at the end of 90 mins.
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The starting XI's are as above.  Smiley

It is getting more exciting as time passes. There is less than half an hour left for the big final game to begin. I hope Real Madrid don't get ahead in the first half already. Otherwise my chance to get a draw in the current round of BSFL is going to vanish.  Tongue

I still predict Real Madrid to become champions like most people though. It looks like an inevitable ending for me. Real Madrid are very good at crisis management also by the way. Even if they get behind I think they would found a way to come back.

But for Dortmund, I'm not that confident.  Sad
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Of course, Real Madrid should win comfortably. The same result would have occurred if PSG and Real Madrid had met. Ancelotti and Real Madrid have competed here as a club for years and have probably always won. Now, when we consider these data, who do you think thinks emotionally? I have an idea about who thinks emotionally. Actually, the match will start in half an hour and we will all see what will happen.

There is no clear favorite in any final match. It's difficult for them to win games comfortably. Both teams will try to play their best game. I don't think Dortmund will give up easily and anyone who thinks Real Madrid will win comfortably tonight will be wrong. But that's not enough to bet on Dortmund. I just want to enjoy the game. I can't lose money and get upset in the final. Grin
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Two hours left before the match, Real Madrid announced their starting eleven against Dortmund, not change yet with current match of Madrid starting line up except Andrey Lunin position replacing by Thibaut Courtois and become his first appearance in Champion League match for this season after long time injury.
Little sad for Andrey Lunin become hero for Madrid when saving penalty kick against Manchester City in the quarter final, play since phase round until semifinal round but Lunin have absent in most crucial final match for Madrid.

madrid starting eleven.

Thibaut Courtois

Carvajal
Rudiger
Nacho
Mendy

Valverde
Camavinga
Toni Kroos

Rodrygo
Jude bellingham
Vinicius Junior
I'm keenly waiting for the game to start as I'm glued to my television.
Thibaut courtois being among the starting eleven for Madrid is surprising to me, as the second choice goal keeper is at his best at moment, so I would have preferred him, it could as well be that carlo Ancelotti is thinking maybe courtois has more experience.
The starting eleven for Madrid is not something out of expection, as they've always brought out three men attack whenever they are facing a crucial game, the central defence is locked with four men defence and  central midfield is mixed with both attacking and defensive midfielders, which is valverde, camavinga and Toni kroos.
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