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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 23, 2023, 01:56:51 PM

Galatasaray really seem to be in big trouble against Bayern Munich. Undecided

If Icardi doesn't have an injection I don't also think that he would be able to enter the game even from the substitutes. I wonder who Galatasaray would prefer in his position if they can't start with Icardi.

Maybe Bakambu would be an alternative. He played for around 10 minutes against Besiktas but I still don't think he is ready for the starting eleven much. Because he hasn't been playing regularly for a long time.

I think the best options for this game are Bayern Munich win @1.43 and over 2.5 goals @1.40.

Galatasaray won't be a push over for Bayern Munich, Bayern has shown weakness this season and Galatasaray hasn't been in bad form also with the duo of icardi and Wilfred Zaha they have been able to always get goals and j believe they would give Bayern Munich a run for their money tomorrow and for sure this game would end both team score

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Galatasaray really seem to be in big trouble against Bayern Munich. Undecided

If Icardi doesn't have an injection I don't also think that he would be able to enter the game even from the substitutes. I wonder who Galatasaray would prefer in his position if they can't start with Icardi.

Maybe Bakambu would be an alternative. He played for around 10 minutes against Besiktas but I still don't think he is ready for the starting eleven much. Because he hasn't been playing regularly for a long time.

I think the best options for this game are Bayern Munich win @1.43 and over 2.5 goals @1.40.

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I hope it's not that easy to say that Napoli will easily win this match. Even though it is true that Union Berlin is not as good as Napoli, Napoli itself is currently in a phase that is not very good. Moreover, they lost good players on their front line.
Union Berlin suffered 2 defeats in the Champions League, but that doesn't mean they can't recover to beat Napoli. In fact I also have Napoli as a favorite and I think most people would do the same. But they have to be careful, and also the luck factor might be something that makes this match different.

Union Berlin doesn't seem like a big obstacle for Napoli in the next match. Napoli, who previously lost to Real Madrid, could most likely win this away match without any problems, they also came with their entire best squad to the Berlin Olympic Stadium. Napoli are favorites in this match even though Union Berlin is playing in front of their fans, so there is little chance of it ending in a draw or both playing out a draw.

The Sevilla vs Arsenal match is also very interesting. Sevilla, who were held to a draw by Real Madrid in the La Liga match, may have to fight hard to beat Arsenal. Sevilla have only collected 2 points from 2 drawn matches, so they will definitely be motivated to win the match against Arsenal so that their chances in the group stage can be better.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on October 23, 2023, 11:45:33 AM

Odds of 1.25 are given for Bayern München's victory tomorrow. I thought it could be lower, but I think this odd is quite good. It's expected that Bayern München will win this match with 4-5 goals. Galatasaray's job is very difficult as there will be no Turkish referee in the match. Also, their most trusted name, Icardi, will not be able to play. It's difficult for them to score with Bakambu. Bayern, on the other hand, has many goal weapons, especially Kane, Sane, Coman and Tel. Bayern München hasn't played Galatasaray since 1972. This match will end the recent debates. We will see who is how strong.

The odds of 1.25 given for Bayern Munich to win are not suitable because Bayern Munich acts as the away team. The odds given for Bayern Munich's victory should be above 1.25.
Bookies may see Galasataray's line-up being without important players such as Icardi and Ziyech. Meanwhile, from the Bayern Munich camp, their performance is in the best form, especially their new striker Kane, who always looks good with the goals he scores.

I don't want this match to end in victory, but I want a draw if Bayern fails to win to give Manchester United a chance in the competition in Group A.

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Quote from: bering on October 23, 2023, 09:26:43 AM

I think Napoli will gets easy win from Union Berlin tomorrow this because although they just lost Osimhen because injured but Napoli still can able to win the match and actually i was doubt Napoli can able to performing well without Osimhen but i was wrong because they still able to gets the winning result in Serie A from Verona and Kvaratskhelia has return to scores goals again yesterday and Rudi Garcia was very confident Napoli can collect 3 points from this match

Union Berlin conditions wasn't really good that at Bundesliga and champion league they had displayed poor performance even on the last match of this competition Union Berlin surprisingly have to lose from Braga and i think Union Berlin have no chances to qualified so Napoli has a good opportunity to return to winning ways from this match and for betting options Napoli has odds @1.94 which is i think this is good odds to bets

You can't compare a teams performance in their various leagues that they are conversant with to a world class challenge like the champions league and so far as football is concerned, the champions league is the center of attraction and attention of all football lovers as each teams plays to the best of their performance.

A team losing or recording loses in their league can't justify the outcome of their match in the champions league as some teams even focus all their energy in the champions league more than their national leagues so for me despite the fact that Union Berlin have not been in good form isn't enough reason to belittle them as the outcome of a football match can be unpredictable till the final whistle is being blown.

Moreover, German teams are more composed and competitive when it comes to major challenges like the Europa leagues and the Champions league so anything is possible. Nevertheless, let the best team win.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 23, 2023, 05:52:26 AM

I'm afraid I won't be able to talk positive about Galatasaray at all. Because even though they are going to be the home side this is the first one of their toughest group matches. Bayern Munich are in a way better condition than Manchester United as you know. Galatasaray benefited from Manchester United's defensive weaknesses and Onana's mistakes both. But here I don't know what they can benefit from. Sad

The only weakness could have been Ulreich but he has also been performing really well.

In addition to all of that Icardi got injured in the match against Besiktas. Okan Buruk said that they would assess the situation if he is able to play with an injection. He is a very crucial scorer for Galatasaray now.

Last time Bayern lost a group stages game was in 2017, I am not saying that it is impossible to beat them but when a team hasn't lost a single game in group stages for 6 years, any team would have hard time beating them. I think it's a bit of group draw luck as well of course but they did alright so far.

I think that is a good achievement for any team to get even a draw against such a team. They are the perfect group stage team, they are the perfect league team as well, they just have hard time with the tournament part when the playoffs start and they end up losing eventually. I think that part is important because we are talking about a situation that is definitely not that easy to beat, and Bayern will get an easy win most probably.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on October 23, 2023, 11:55:02 AM

Not get points yet in last two Champion League matches will make Union Berlin have difficult chance if want qualify to next round, I think in Group C Madrid and Napoli will qualify to knock out round.

Union Berlin are at their weakest moments whether in 1.Bundesliga or in Champions League. They are just above the relegation zone with only two victories and 4 defeats. Here in UEFA Champions League, they didn't win a single match and I don't expect them to do with Napoli. Best they can do is to pick the third place to Europa League group stage and try their chance there although I doubt they could go far in any competition this season..

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Odds of 1.25 are given for Bayern München's victory tomorrow. I thought it could be lower, but I think this odd is quite good. It's expected that Bayern München will win this match with 4-5 goals. Galatasaray's job is very difficult as there will be no Turkish referee in the match. Also, their most trusted name, Icardi, will not be able to play. It's difficult for them to score with Bakambu. Bayern, on the other hand, has many goal weapons, especially Kane, Sane, Coman and Tel. Bayern München hasn't played Galatasaray since 1972. This match will end the recent debates. We will see who is how strong.

Quite reasonable with those odds because the bookies already know this will be a Bayern Munich victory despite playing away, usually Bayern can score more than two goals I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeds 4 goals.
I haven't seen any info on Galatasaray so you say Icardi can't play, is it due to injury or having two yellow cards? Yes he's an important player, if he's not there it might be a bit difficult in midfield.
What happens if it's a draw? It's obviously a home win even if it's a draw and Galatasaray's qualification will be even bigger.

This match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich team is very strong. But Galatasaray's players are now very confident. Galatasaray failed to win against Copenhagen in the first match. The match was drawn 2-2. But in the second match, Galatasaray's players played great against Manchester United. Galatasaray won the away match 3-2. They played very well. But winning against Munich is much more difficult. Munich is a very strong team. I think Galatasaray's players will play for a draw in this match. And they will be happy if they can get 1 point. Munich are a very strong team but I don't think it will be easy for them to win against Galatasaray.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on October 23, 2023, 11:45:33 AM

Odds of 1.25 are given for Bayern München's victory tomorrow. I thought it could be lower, but I think this odd is quite good. It's expected that Bayern München will win this match with 4-5 goals. Galatasaray's job is very difficult as there will be no Turkish referee in the match. Also, their most trusted name, Icardi, will not be able to play. It's difficult for them to score with Bakambu. Bayern, on the other hand, has many goal weapons, especially Kane, Sane, Coman and Tel. Bayern München hasn't played Galatasaray since 1972. This match will end the recent debates. We will see who is how strong.

Quite reasonable with those odds because the bookies already know this will be a Bayern Munich victory despite playing away, usually Bayern can score more than two goals I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeds 4 goals.
I haven't seen any info on Galatasaray so you say Icardi can't play, is it due to injury or having two yellow cards? Yes he's an important player, if he's not there it might be a bit difficult in midfield.
What happens if it's a draw? It's obviously a home win even if it's a draw and Galatasaray's qualification will be even bigger.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on October 23, 2023, 11:45:33 AM

Odds of 1.25 are given for Bayern München's victory tomorrow. I thought it could be lower, but I think this odd is quite good. It's expected that Bayern München will win this match with 4-5 goals. Galatasaray's job is very difficult as there will be no Turkish referee in the match. Also, their most trusted name, Icardi, will not be able to play. It's difficult for them to score with Bakambu. Bayern, on the other hand, has many goal weapons, especially Kane, Sane, Coman and Tel. Bayern München hasn't played Galatasaray since 1972. This match will end the recent debates. We will see who is how strong.

I would be lowering expectation for bayern to win this match with at least 4 goals. It will obviously less than it. I was also referring to the previous match against copenhagen. Bayern was struggling against copenhagen.
The same thing will happen and i expect it will be under 4 goals in total for this match. Bayern's odds this time is around 1.43 and it's increasing drastically. I think that draw is also possible to happen too.
Bayern needs to get point even though it will be 1 point and that's fine. The only main target to keep its position as a winner in the group stage.

BTTS is offering a better odds and this choice is also make sense to be taken. 1.61 for btts which is good. Im sure galatasaray will be also scoring against bayern.

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Quote from: marcous on October 23, 2023, 11:31:45 AM

Union Berlin have lost their way this season and cannot target anything in the two best competitions they participate in, the Bundesliga and the Champions League. I thought the closest match against napoli would also end in defeat for them, even though I was surprised by their resistance in the first match against Real Madrid, they almost drew at that time. I also think that this is a very bad season for them, their performance is still inferior to promoted clubs Darmsdtadt and Heidenheim in the Bundesliga.

In group C, I think they will also find it difficult to finish in third place, and continue the season in the Europa League, something that is realistic but also seems impossible to make happen. Napoli and braga will fight for a place in the runners-up, and madrid will most likely qualify as group winners.

Its first time for Bundesliga teams Union Berlin participants in UEFA Champion League, I know less experienced and have been in difficult group made Union Berlin loss 2 of 2 matches. Union Berlin can' take advantage when playing in their home from Braga opponent and almost difficult chance to qualify knock out round exactly upcoming match against Napoli. Actually, Union Berlin have good games on first opening match, success made Real Madrid scoring goals and need waiting until last minute but they can defend with their consistency performance on last match after losing with Braga.

Not get points yet in last two Champion League matches will make Union Berlin have difficult chance if want qualify to next round, I think in Group C Madrid and Napoli will qualify to knock out round.

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Odds of 1.25 are given for Bayern München's victory tomorrow. I thought it could be lower, but I think this odd is quite good. It's expected that Bayern München will win this match with 4-5 goals. Galatasaray's job is very difficult as there will be no Turkish referee in the match. Also, their most trusted name, Icardi, will not be able to play. It's difficult for them to score with Bakambu. Bayern, on the other hand, has many goal weapons, especially Kane, Sane, Coman and Tel. Bayern München hasn't played Galatasaray since 1972. This match will end the recent debates. We will see who is how strong.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 23, 2023, 09:58:58 AM

This season it looks like Union Berlin will not be as good as last season and there is no big hope for Union Berlin to stay in the UCL for long.
And next season it looks like they won't get another chance to compete in the UCL.
The Bundesliga is currently being controlled by really strong team so it will be difficult for Union Berlin to be at the top like last season when they got top four ranking.

It is natural that Napoli odds are quite profitable because the match will take place at the Berlin Olympic Stadium (Germany).

Union Berlin have lost their way this season and cannot target anything in the two best competitions they participate in, the Bundesliga and the Champions League. I thought the closest match against napoli would also end in defeat for them, even though I was surprised by their resistance in the first match against Real Madrid, they almost drew at that time. I also think that this is a very bad season for them, their performance is still inferior to promoted clubs Darmsdtadt and Heidenheim in the Bundesliga.

In group C, I think they will also find it difficult to finish in third place, and continue the season in the Europa League, something that is realistic but also seems impossible to make happen. Napoli and braga will fight for a place in the runners-up, and madrid will most likely qualify as group winners.

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Galatasaray's biggest power, Mauro Icardi, was injured in the last Beşiktaş match. There is a situation where he cannot play. If he doesn't play for Galatasaray, this is good news for Bayern because we saw how good he was against Onana. He made a masterful finish for the third goal. If the probability of Bayern beating Galatasaray is 60%, I think this rate will increase to 80% without Icardi.

According to the reports I read in the media, Icardi needs rest or ice treatment. But he can still play against Bayern Munich if he feels well on match day. Galatasaray have yet to reach last season's performance in terms of team play. We are winning games thanks to individual talents like Icardi and Zaha. That's why Icardi is very important for us. If he doesn't play against Bayern Munich, our attacking diversity will be weakened. I hope he will be fit to play tomorrow. We need him a lot.

We have won our last 7 games in the Super League and in our last game we beat Beşiktaş in the league. I know that league games and Champions League games are not on the same level but we have a good winning streak and our confidence is high. I definitely think we will not be an easy opponent for Bayern Munich.

The game between this two clubs is really going to be interesting to watch, Galatasary needs to qualify by all means,and I think they Will put up a good fight against Bayern who are currently topping the group.Their group is a really competitive one,and I think in terms of qualification,Galatasary and Bayern will qualify from this group.Manchester United are not playing convincingly for me to think they will qualify with Bayern.They will be facing Copenhagen by tomorrow or next,and I am expecting that it will be very tough for them to win that game also.I can't wait to see how Bayern VS Galatasary will end tomorrow,but if I am to predict it,i'm going for a 2:2 draw.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 23, 2023, 09:21:06 AM

Galatasaray's biggest power, Mauro Icardi, was injured in the last Beşiktaş match. There is a situation where he cannot play. If he doesn't play for Galatasaray, this is good news for Bayern because we saw how good he was against Onana. He made a masterful finish for the third goal. If the probability of Bayern beating Galatasaray is 60%, I think this rate will increase to 80% without Icardi.

According to the reports I read in the media, Icardi needs rest or ice treatment. But he can still play against Bayern Munich if he feels well on match day. Galatasaray have yet to reach last season's performance in terms of team play. We are winning games thanks to individual talents like Icardi and Zaha. That's why Icardi is very important for us. If he doesn't play against Bayern Munich, our attacking diversity will be weakened. I hope he will be fit to play tomorrow. We need him a lot.

We have won our last 7 games in the Super League and in our last game we beat Beşiktaş in the league. I know that league games and Champions League games are not on the same level but we have a good winning streak and our confidence is high. I definitely think we will not be an easy opponent for Bayern Munich.

Mauro Icardi picked up a minor injury in the club's derby match against Besiktas in the Turkish Super Lig over the weekend. But from the reports in the media, there are chances that the Italy international will be in action for his club when the welcome Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League competition tomorrow.
Bayern Munich will be hoping for the striker who's Galatasaray top scorer this season not to feature in that game as it'll increase their chances of winning the game but taking in to consideration about the importance of the player, I think Galatasaray manager is gonna risk it all and by including the player in his team for the game.

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Quote from: bering on October 23, 2023, 09:26:43 AM

I think Napoli will gets easy win from Union Berlin tomorrow this because although they just lost Osimhen because injured but Napoli still can able to win the match and actually i was doubt Napoli can able to performing well without Osimhen but i was wrong because they still able to gets the winning result in Serie A from Verona and Kvaratskhelia has return to scores goals again yesterday and Rudi Garcia was very confident Napoli can collect 3 points from this match

Union Berlin conditions wasn't really good that at Bundesliga and champion league they had displayed poor performance even on the last match of this competition Union Berlin surprisingly have to lose from Braga and i think Union Berlin have no chances to qualified so Napoli has a good opportunity to return to winning ways from this match and for betting options Napoli has odds @1.94 which is i think this is good odds to bets

I hope it's not that easy to say that Napoli will easily win this match. Even though it is true that Union Berlin is not as good as Napoli, Napoli itself is currently in a phase that is not very good. Moreover, they lost good players on their front line.
Union Berlin suffered 2 defeats in the Champions League, but that doesn't mean they can't recover to beat Napoli. In fact I also have Napoli as a favorite and I think most people would do the same. But they have to be careful, and also the luck factor might be something that makes this match different.

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Quote from: bering on October 23, 2023, 09:26:43 AM

I think Napoli will gets easy win from Union Berlin tomorrow this because although they just lost Osimhen because injured but Napoli still can able to win the match and actually i was doubt Napoli can able to performing well without Osimhen but i was wrong because they still able to gets the winning result in Serie A from Verona and Kvaratskhelia has return to scores goals again yesterday and Rudi Garcia was very confident Napoli can collect 3 points from this match

Union Berlin conditions wasn't really good that at Bundesliga and champion league they had displayed poor performance even on the last match of this competition Union Berlin surprisingly have to lose from Braga and i think Union Berlin have no chances to qualified so Napoli has a good opportunity to return to winning ways from this match and for betting options Napoli has odds @1.94 which is i think this is good odds to bets

Napoli did well against Verona, they have themselves together fighting and definitely won by three goals Politano and Khivicha Kvaratskhelia made me smile, I got to predict a double chance on them behalf and they delivered like the Hebrew women. Lol.
I expect same results against Union Berlin struggle to pick up a win in the last five games they have played.
The difficulty that comes with managing the Champions League and also the league games are tough. Napoli with a win or draw is also safe to bet. They will get six points to maintain second place on the group stage if that win comes successfully.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 23, 2023, 09:21:06 AM

Galatasaray's biggest power, Mauro Icardi, was injured in the last Beşiktaş match. There is a situation where he cannot play. If he doesn't play for Galatasaray, this is good news for Bayern because we saw how good he was against Onana. He made a masterful finish for the third goal. If the probability of Bayern beating Galatasaray is 60%, I think this rate will increase to 80% without Icardi.

According to the reports I read in the media, Icardi needs rest or ice treatment. But he can still play against Bayern Munich if he feels well on match day. Galatasaray have yet to reach last season's performance in terms of team play. We are winning games thanks to individual talents like Icardi and Zaha. That's why Icardi is very important for us. If he doesn't play against Bayern Munich, our attacking diversity will be weakened. I hope he will be fit to play tomorrow. We need him a lot.

We have won our last 7 games in the Super League and in our last game we beat Beşiktaş in the league. I know that league games and Champions League games are not on the same level but we have a good winning streak and our confidence is high. I definitely think we will not be an easy opponent for Bayern Munich.

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I immediately looked this up and indeed for the modern era they have never met because in the records I found they had played in the Champions League in 1972/73 and indeed I also did not know if I did not look for it because I was not born at that time Cheesy

the h2h is not really applicable because it was half a century ago and not important to be used as a benchmark.

This is a new era but even though Galatasaray are consistent now and have the advantage of playing home I don't think the result will be too different because the possibility for Galatasaray is only a draw in this match but even then it is difficult because it is very rare for Bayern in the Champions League especially for the group phase they get a draw because they always sweep the victory in this group phase.
So I remain confident that 3 points will belong to Bayern.

After reading your reply I also became curious and traced the match between the two clubs and it was very far away and cannot be a benchmark because 100% of the players have all changed and if we talk about chances of winning I still hold Bayern Munich to win because in terms of quality performance My players still see Bayern Munich as superior and I say this because I always see and compare the performances of the two clubs which are very clearly different.
But even though the quality of the players is different, I think Galatasaray has an extraordinary defense, even though they can't score, I'm sure the club's defense will make it difficult for the Munich players to score and end the match in a draw.
To bet on this match it looks like I am still doing my research and maybe I will take a double chance for this match.

Indeed, in the end this goes back to what scheme they apply in this match whether Galatasaray will try to keep up with the game Bayern is doing in this match or not because everything has a risk I think.
But it would be better if Galatasaray tried to match the intensity of Bayern with a fast game than using a defense scheme but indeed this would be more draining but the results could be more benchmarked.
Copenhagen did the same thing before and they managed to hold Bayern just that lack of focus in the crucial minutes made them have to give up 1 point in the last minutes. Galatasaray can also try that, it's just that the risk is clear when trying to keep up but it doesn't go well then this can backfire for Galatasaray itself.

This time everything is against Galatasaray and they can't have any chance against Bayern Munich because normally Galatasaray don't have enough power to stand against Bayern Munich and the players they have but the difference in this game for Galatasaray is they don't have Mauro Icardi because he is injured and this can definitely damage the team.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 23, 2023, 09:21:06 AM

Galatasaray's biggest power, Mauro Icardi, was injured in the last Beşiktaş match. There is a situation where he cannot play. If he doesn't play for Galatasaray, this is good news for Bayern because we saw how good he was against Onana. He made a masterful finish for the third goal. If the probability of Bayern beating Galatasaray is 60%, I think this rate will increase to 80% without Icardi.

It is true that Icardi gets injured, it is a quite serious problem. There is no exact time when he can return, he must be absent against Bayern Munich. When Icardi can't play, I agree that Galatasaray attacking will reduce its power quite a lot. Not sure how the percentage of Bayern Munich to win the match, but in theory Bayern Munich should be easier to beat Galatasaray when it loses their machine goal. In the previous match, it was very obvious that Icardi has a big role in the front line of Galatasaray.

Quote from: uswa56 on October 23, 2023, 09:48:23 AM

Napoli have proven that they are still strong even without their mainstay Victor Osimhen, in their last match in Serie A the Napoli team appeared strong even without Victor Osimhen, but if this striker plays of course Napoli's strength will be very strong.

Indeed. Napoli is still strong enough although Osimhen can't play against Union Berlin. They still have Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Matteo Politano, and Giacomo Raspadori. These players played well in the last match of Serie A yesterday. Although it will be an away match against Union Berlin, it is no doubt if we consider the quality of Napoli squad.

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