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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

I'm not sure that Fenerbahce is superior to Lille in terms of squad, I think that in this pair Lille looks like the favorite, and if Mourinho manages to reach the group stage of the Champions League, it will be a great achievement. Fenerbahce will most likely try to play this match in a draw, for Mourinho it has always been a priority not to lose away, but in the matches with Lugano we saw that Fenerbahce has problems with defense, so I think that Lille will also be able to score today.

But it seems we should not underestimate Fenerbahce under Mourinho's direction and although here Lille is slightly favored to win but everything can still change during the match. I am quite sure Fenerbahce will present a surprise that is no less exciting and at the same time Lille must be aware of what they are planning.

Mourinho must know the mistakes made by his players and against a more difficult team he must have done intensively to improve the defense line so as not to concede many goals. A draw may sound naive and I think neither team wants to accept that result and instead both teams will work hard to take the lead first before finally doing full defense to lock in victory.

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Qarabag FK - Ludogorets Razgrad
Qarabag FK will play against the Bulgarian champions, this will be an interesting game because in 11 years they have won 10 titles in the Azerbaijan league and in the last game of the European Champions League Qarabag FK beat Lincoln Red in the first leg by 2 - 0 and in the second leg by 5 - 0, it was a very good performance that Qarabag FK had in both legs and we cannot forget that last season they were very close to reaching the final of the Europa League, they drew in the first leg against Leverkusen and were very unlucky in the second leg, while Ludogorets Razgrad has been a team that loses when they play away from home in this competition, for that reason I bet on Qarabag to win.

Qarabag is a team that has been doing well in European competitions in recent years, especially at home. Qarabag is in excellent form with 5 wins in their last five games. Qarabag's attacking line is very effective and their defense is also solid. Qarabag, who scored five goals against a weak opponent in the previous round this season, are also favorites in this match, but their opponent is an experienced team. Ludogorets are not as strong as in the past years, but they are a tough opponent. Although Ludogorets are good defensively, they struggle to score against strong teams. Considering Qarabag's home advantage and their form, I think Qarabag will be the team to win this match.

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Quote from: boltz on August 06, 2024, 06:35:35 AM

Very important game indeed but I cannot trust french football on International scale and that's why I do think Fenerbahce will win this series and qualify further.

Salzburg - Twente should also be a great football game where in theory Twente should be the favorites and with way more experience in UCL than Salzburg but I think whoever qualifies further , won't actually catch the UCL groups.

For me , the best game of the day is Sparta Prague - FCSB where I personally expect another great game from FCSB and maybe with a bit of luck we can make a draw or even win the game because the current squad of FCSB is capable of achieving victories against more powerful teams from Europe.

Well, if we evaluate the results of the French and Turkish teams, then it seems to me that the former will have better results in the Champions League. But in this case it would be wrong to generalize, we need to consider specific teams and what form they are in now. We saw Fenerbahce in official games with Lugano, and it is very difficult to evaluate Lille only by friendly matches. In my opinion, Lille can become a tough nut to crack for Fenerbahce, the first game will be in France, Lille will try to win this game, I think they will succeed.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

In as much as I have a great deal of respect for the Turkish side, I still do not agree that they have a better squad than the french side Lille, for me I think they have same level of advantage coming into this tie and i would rather watchout to see which side has more tactical abilities because over the years we have seen this french side playing some good football both in the champions league and in the french ligue1, and do not forget that they made it past the group stage in the UCL last season therefore fernebache should be ready to play a very tough game when they meet Lille tomorrow in the champions league qualifiers.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

I think Fenerbahçe will have an advantage in the return leg even if it draws tonight. The first leg is in France with Lille. The return leg is in Istanbul and Fenerbahçe wants to use the return leg advantage well. We conceded easy goals against Lugano but I hope we won't do the same against Lille. I hope Jose Mourinho has prepared the team in the best way possible. I plan to watch the match with pleasure tonight and I hope Fenerbahçe will have a successful match.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

Yes, it is matchday. Fred is the only important missing player as far as I know. He is likely to miss more matches too because of being out for a few weeks.

He is a really important member for the midfield. However Mourinho can still deal with this situation hopefully. He has a really capable squad in his control. But there is one important problem, the defense. Sad

I didn't like Fenerbahçe against Lugano. There were significant weaknesses in defense. Lille are far stronger than Lugano. This is why we need to see a better defending from Fenerbahçe. If we see them prepared then they can get a good result tonight.

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Quote from: boltz on August 06, 2024, 06:35:35 AM

Very important game indeed but I cannot trust french football on International scale and that's why I do think Fenerbahce will win this series and qualify further.

If you think Fenerbahce will win, then it's good for you to bet Fenerbahce since they're underdog in this match. Actually I'm surprised to see Fenerbahce becomes underdog since they have better results than Lille. Although Fred is injured, but Dzeko is the one who give biggest contribution to Fenerbahce, without Fred they should able to perform.

Quote from: Ndabagi01 on August 06, 2024, 07:15:44 AM

Real Madrid may have all it takes to win a treble next season but we shouldn’t be surprised if they’re not able to. Despite their great squad for next season, balancing the game in all competitions won’t be a very easy task for them. For any of the three clubs you mentioned, if any of them are able to focus on one competition and give in their all to win it, they might deny Real Madrid the trophy of that competition. The preparations against next season is getting high and I can’t wait to see how things turn out to be for every club.

If Real Madrid can win a treble, it's clear that Ancelotti is the reason why Real Madrid can win treble, unlike the 2016-2018 when no one can beat Real Madrid. In that time, everyone already know Real Madrid was the strongest, but in the present, no one really sure which team will win Champions League because Manchester City and Bayern Munich still have a chance.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on August 06, 2024, 04:45:54 AM

Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

I'm not sure that Fenerbahce is superior to Lille in terms of squad, I think that in this pair Lille looks like the favorite, and if Mourinho manages to reach the group stage of the Champions League, it will be a great achievement. Fenerbahce will most likely try to play this match in a draw, for Mourinho it has always been a priority not to lose away, but in the matches with Lugano we saw that Fenerbahce has problems with defense, so I think that Lille will also be able to score today.

Well, the first real test of the season for Fenerbahçe. Though they had a hard time against Lugano, but it was more like a friendly game for me. I'm not sure how you guys all have this confidence. It's hard to imagineFenerbahçe will win with everything stacked against us. Fenerbahçe are potentially missing some of their best players due to various reasons.
Also, all odds are not favoring Fenerbahçe. The bad thing is we're going to miss Fred from the game against Lille, and this is due to his injury. Jose Mourinho, as Fenerbahce coach, had no time with the team to fix the loopholes in its defensive line.

I personally feel pessimistic to bet on Fenerbahce because of this is gonna be an away game for them. The good thing is, if they lose, and they go to the Europa League. Fenerbahçe won't have to play any qualifiers.
I'm wondering what kind of line-up is gonna be used by Mou, and hopefully Krunic is gonna be a part of starting line up.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on August 06, 2024, 04:45:54 AM

Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

I'm not sure that Fenerbahce is superior to Lille in terms of squad, I think that in this pair Lille looks like the favorite, and if Mourinho manages to reach the group stage of the Champions League, it will be a great achievement. Fenerbahce will most likely try to play this match in a draw, for Mourinho it has always been a priority not to lose away, but in the matches with Lugano we saw that Fenerbahce has problems with defense, so I think that Lille will also be able to score today.

if you look at the trial match played by both teams, which during the trial match Fenerbache was superior in terms of victory, by bringing 4 wins, while Lille only got 2 wins and 2 draws the rest ended in defeat, and this could affect the mental readiness prepared by both teams to go through the real match, and target to qualify for the group stage of the Champions League, without underestimating Lille, it seems that I will prefer Fenerbahce under the guidance of Jose Mourinho, and for defense Jose Mourinho should have had other options that will be used if the defense shown is not satisfactory. the prediction of a narrow score will be achieved by Fenerbache in France later.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

The qualifying round is getting more intense and this match is going to be a very tough one that the outcome cannot be easily predicted. The two teams are not that weak and they’ll give each other a tough time before they’ll be able to get a champion. Experience and tactical approach will matter a lot in this match. Lille has been a usual team in the champions league but for Fernabache, they’ll depend on their coach most on the strategy he uses to see themselves go through to the champions league next season.

Quote from: Josefjix on August 05, 2024, 04:11:38 PM

Barcelona, Girona and Atletico Madrid are the only opponents that can pull threat for the club, it's definitely going to be really hectic for Los Blancos but they always succeed in all levels. Real Madrid is the best club in the European football. They're the best among the best, Florentino Pérez and Carlo Ancelotti made it really possible for the players. Next season, no stress for Real Madrid, they've stuck the necessities and the players needed, they're favorite to win treble next season.

Real Madrid may have all it takes to win a treble next season but we shouldn’t be surprised if they’re not able to. Despite their great squad for next season, balancing the game in all competitions won’t be a very easy task for them. For any of the three clubs you mentioned, if any of them are able to focus on one competition and give in their all to win it, they might deny Real Madrid the trophy of that competition. The preparations against next season is getting high and I can’t wait to see how things turn out to be for every club.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

Very important game indeed but I cannot trust french football on International scale and that's why I do think Fenerbahce will win this series and qualify further.

Salzburg - Twente should also be a great football game where in theory Twente should be the favorites and with way more experience in UCL than Salzburg but I think whoever qualifies further , won't actually catch the UCL groups.

For me , the best game of the day is Sparta Prague - FCSB where I personally expect another great game from FCSB and maybe with a bit of luck we can make a draw or even win the game because the current squad of FCSB is capable of achieving victories against more powerful teams from Europe.

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In fact, with the current squad Real Madrid has, a team that will defeat them has to work really hard and also be a lucky team like them. Even for next season, Real Madrid is the most favorable team to win the Champions League. They have the best squad currently in the world of football.

Barcelona, Girona and Atletico Madrid are the only opponents that can pull threat for the club, it's definitely going to be really hectic for Los Blancos but they always succeed in all levels. Real Madrid is the best club in the European football. They're the best among the best, Florentino Pérez and Carlo Ancelotti made it really possible for the players. Next season, no stress for Real Madrid, they've stuck the necessities and the players needed, they're favorite to win treble next season.

Looking at the current Real Madrid squad, it seems that it will be difficult for opponents to beat them, especially since the midfield and back line are very luxurious, both core players and reserves. It can be said that the Madrid squad is only minus in the back line because there are no reserve players who are the same as the core players but this can be overcome by Ancelotti because he is very good at utilizing the skills of his players. so that the Real Madrid squad can be said in other words almost perfect.

Of course with this almost perfect squad, Real Madrid has a big dream, which is to get the Treble winner for the first time, although Real Madrid's preseason did not perform optimally, but that is not an obstacle for Real Madrid because Real Madrid is always not good during preseason but always good when the league starts, especially the UCL league, they will be difficult to beat. Only Man City has a chance to beat them in the UCL league next season, this is if we look at the squad owned by other teams besides Real Madrid in the UCL league. In addition, the format of the UCL league next season will be different from the previous season, of course making other teams difficult because the match schedule will be even denser.

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I don't see any reason clubs should be complaining because they are displaying what they are good at and as far as you are a player you must answer to every call for every game except on special occasion, or you are not among the top 11 then you have to be benched aside that your duty must be performed as a player. PSG don't have to much competitive competition to play in compare to the English clubs. Even Spain and others are not as tough as the English leagues.

There are things you've said which am not in agreement with and I will be snapping in pointing those out.

~ Players are not robots that you should expect that they at all time have to be active for all calls, they are humans too that deserves resting despite being professionals at what they do.

Secondly, it's laughable to say that the English Premier League is more competitive than the Spanish Laliga league, aside from wide viewership that the EPL has I don't see anything much competitive about the league than the Laliga. Often times the Spanish clubs has more wins than the English clubs in all their meetings in international matches in Europe. The EPL to me is just a hype above it's position. Spanish league has most strong clubs than any other football league in the world. Do your findings.

Sometimes people draw their conclusion from what they are more conversant with. Probably he watches the EPL more than the Spanish Laliga. The EPL has no advantage over the Spanish Laliga when it comes to competitiveness. I will only say that the EPL is more physical than the Spanish Laliga. While the Spanish Laliga is more tactical than the EPL, and football is more of tacticals than physicality. That's why when English side meets the Spanish side on European football, the Spanish sides has recorded more wins. So when people say that the English league is more competitive than Laliga I don't agree with that. The champoins league has provided an avenue to see which league is more strong in Europe and Spanish Laliga leads the way so far.

Even some of the leagues they regularly refer to as farmers league team's from those leagues gives a better performance in the European football competition's going far in those competition than the EPL teams do. This reminds me of a heated debate I once had two season's again with some zealous EPL football fans in my neighborhood about when Erling Haaland first came to the EPL. The argued that he wasn't going to have much goals as he did with Dortmund in the German Bundesliga because the EPL is very tough and high competitive, an idea I countered.
Today, two seasons has gone by and Haaland has constantly had the highest goals in each of the two seasons he has spent with Manchester City and still going but I can to an extend say Haaland wouldn't have it that easy with the Spanish Laliga.

Some fans that are glued to the EPL matches alone exalt the EPL beyond what it is and it's really worrisome. Yes, the EPL is great and fantastic to watch but if you want to watch tactical and possession based games with a touch of technical creativity Spanish Laliga is where the real flex lies.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

I'm not sure that Fenerbahce is superior to Lille in terms of squad, I think that in this pair Lille looks like the favorite, and if Mourinho manages to reach the group stage of the Champions League, it will be a great achievement. Fenerbahce will most likely try to play this match in a draw, for Mourinho it has always been a priority not to lose away, but in the matches with Lugano we saw that Fenerbahce has problems with defense, so I think that Lille will also be able to score today.

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Quote from: Lida93 on August 05, 2024, 01:43:43 PM

Quote from: RockBell on August 05, 2024, 09:20:10 AM

I don't see any reason clubs should be complaining because they are displaying what they are good at and as far as you are a player you must answer to every call for every game except on special occasion, or you are not among the top 11 then you have to be benched aside that your duty must be performed as a player. PSG don't have to much competitive competition to play in compare to the English clubs. Even Spain and others are not as tough as the English leagues.

There are things you've said which am not in agreement with and I will be snapping in pointing those out.

~ Players are not robots that you should expect that they at all time have to be active for all calls, they are humans too that deserves resting despite being professionals at what they do.

Secondly, it's laughable to say that the English Premier League is more competitive than the Spanish Laliga league, aside from wide viewership that the EPL has I don't see anything much competitive about the league than the Laliga. Often times the Spanish clubs has more wins than the English clubs in all their meetings in international matches in Europe. The EPL to me is just a hype above it's position. Spanish league has most strong clubs than any other football league in the world. Do your findings.

Sometimes people draw their conclusion from what they are more conversant with. Probably he watches the EPL more than the Spanish Laliga. The EPL has no advantage over the Spanish Laliga when it comes to competitiveness. I will only say that the EPL is more physical than the Spanish Laliga. While the Spanish Laliga is more tactical than the EPL, and football is more of tacticals than physicality. That's why when English side meets the Spanish side on European football, the Spanish sides has recorded more wins. So when people say that the English league is more competitive than Laliga I don't agree with that. The champoins league has provided an avenue to see which league is more strong in Europe and Spanish Laliga leads the way so far.

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Here is the schedule for the next Champions League qualifying matches in the first leg which will be held in the next 2 days, I think it will be increasingly difficult to predict because the obstacles are getting more difficult, previously I bet on UCL matches and always made wrong predictions because actually I also don't really know the clubs that entered this qualifying round except Fenerbahce and Lille but they will meet in this round so it's quite difficult to guess who will win, but in the first leg it looks like Lille will benefit because they are playing at home, maybe I will bet on Lille's victory.
Here are the odds between Lille vs Fenerbahce

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 05, 2024, 01:35:19 PM

In fact, with the current squad Real Madrid has, a team that will defeat them has to work really hard and also be a lucky team like them. Even for next season, Real Madrid is the most favorable team to win the Champions League. They have the best squad currently in the world of football.

Barcelona, Girona and Atletico Madrid are the only opponents that can pull threat for the club, it's definitely going to be really hectic for Los Blancos but they always succeed in all levels. Real Madrid is the best club in the European football. They're the best among the best, Florentino Pérez and Carlo Ancelotti made it really possible for the players. Next season, no stress for Real Madrid, they've stuck the necessities and the players needed, they're favorite to win treble next season.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 05, 2024, 03:39:01 PM

Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

This is one of the matches that I'm waiting for in the 3rd round qualifier for the Champions League because after all this is a match that although in terms of their level is balanced but in terms of experience for the Champions League these two clubs have also felt to be in the big competition several times so I expect good things to happen in this match because of course interesting matches are always an expectation for now.
Both are quite balanced, it's just that Lille have a bigger advantage where they will play home which of course is a very good thing for them. But with Fenerbahce's performance, especially for the attack line, I think it could be more of a threat because even though the teamwork is still not solid but there are some great players despite their age that should be taken into account at Fenerbahce.

In addition, I want to watch Qarabag's match against Ludogorets. These 2 clubs are not threatening but when against big clubs always show a pretty good defense so I expect the same for an interesting game in this match.

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Fenerbahçe will play an important Champions League match against Lille tomorrow. This is one of the most decisive matches of the season for Fenerbahce. Lille are a strong team and it's not difficult for Fenerbahce to get through. I think Fenerbahçe is better in terms of squad quality and team, but Lille has more experience in the Champions League. Even a draw for Fenerbahce in tomorrow's game would mean a place in the round.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 05, 2024, 01:35:19 PM

In fact, with the current squad Real Madrid has, a team that will defeat them has to work really hard and also be a lucky team like them. Even for next season, Real Madrid is the most favorable team to win the Champions League. They have the best squad currently in the world of football.

Real Madrid team looks very composed, and just as you said, any team that will defeat them will have to be a team that is good in counter attack because Madrid defense is not as good as any other positions in the squad unless if they reinforce the defense before the beginning or f the Champions League campaign.

Madrid will hardly get eliminated in the group stage because they are the favorite team to win the Champions League and they have good squad that can defeat almost every team in the Europe.

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