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Quote from: sportbettor on May 12, 2020, 11:44:36 AM

I believe that professional sports should not suffer from this problem, since the elderly are mainly affected by coronavirus complications. Moreover, the only ongoing national football championship in Europe (Belarus), which takes place even with spectators in the stands, showed the absence of any problems in this matter. Therefore, if the majority decides to continue the championships, then the minority must obey them, or remain outside the game (like Danny Rose).

Well, people return to their jobs across the Europe. I don't think that football players are somehow different and exceptions for them is needed. Though, we obviously don't want to see players getting infected. You say virus is most dangerous for elderly people. It's true, but Montpelier player Junior Sambia was income after he got COVID-19.
Belarus playing with spectators, but I see that one game next weekend is postponed because one player got Covid-19.

There are always some exceptions to any rule, but we should not take them as a basis. The whole world should not expect while single player or team to solve their problems. Otherwise, it will lead to a complete collapse in the world of sports.

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Quote from: sportbettor on May 12, 2020, 11:44:36 AM

I believe that professional sports should not suffer from this problem, since the elderly are mainly affected by coronavirus complications. Moreover, the only ongoing national football championship in Europe (Belarus), which takes place even with spectators in the stands, showed the absence of any problems in this matter. Therefore, if the majority decides to continue the championships, then the minority must obey them, or remain outside the game (like Danny Rose).

Well, people return to their jobs across the Europe. I don't think that football players are somehow different and exceptions for them is needed. Though, we obviously don't want to see players getting infected. You say virus is most dangerous for elderly people. It's true, but Montpelier player Junior Sambia was income after he got COVID-19.
Belarus playing with spectators, but I see that one game next weekend is postponed because one player got Covid-19.

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The recent decision to ease quarantine restrictions in England looks very encouraging for football as well, since after restarting the Premier League, other countries will most likely be able to follow suit.

@sportbettor it seems that there’s yet hope alive for the Premier League to resume in June, provided all the clubs can agree to play on neutral grounds. It’s also pertinent to note that Danny Rose has blasted the government and Premier League officials for restarting the league as he claims that life’s are important, and this is not the right time be restarting football. However I don’t think the government or Premier League officials will care for his statement, but what about you’ll what do you’ll think of his statement?.

I believe that professional sports should not suffer from this problem, since the elderly are mainly affected by coronavirus complications. Moreover, the only ongoing national football championship in Europe (Belarus), which takes place even with spectators in the stands, showed the absence of any problems in this matter. Therefore, if the majority decides to continue the championships, then the minority must obey them, or remain outside the game (like Danny Rose).

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The English Football Federation and the English football clubs agree to complete this season. But it is very difficult to predict the extent of the outbreak. I guess for this reason, a final decision has not been made yet. Footballers and the football industry employees also need to consider their health. In this case, it is not really easy to decide.

I just read this news : https://talksport.com/football/701843/premier-league-season-completed-seven-week-plan-june/

BTW, It will not be difficult to declare a champion as the Liverpool league dominates the league this year in England. However, it would be nice to play leagues so that there would be no injustice in joining the trophies next year.

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Quote from: sportbettor on May 11, 2020, 08:22:37 AM

The recent decision to ease quarantine restrictions in England looks very encouraging for football as well, since after restarting the Premier League, other countries will most likely be able to follow suit.

@sportbettor it seems that there’s yet hope alive for the Premier League to resume in June, provided all the clubs can agree to play on neutral grounds. It’s also pertinent to note that Danny Rose has blasted the government and Premier League officials for restarting the league as he claims that life’s are important, and this is not the right time be restarting football. However I don’t think the government or Premier League officials will care for his statement, but what about you’ll what do you’ll think of his statement?.

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“The government is saying we are bringing football back because it is going to boost the nation’s morale.

“I don’t give a fuck about the nation’s morale, people’s lives are at risk. Football shouldn’t even be spoke [sic] about coming back until the numbers have dropped massively. It’s bollocks. Well see. I’m supposed to tested on Friday so we will just have to wait and see.”

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The UK government has announced that professional sport in England will not be allowed to take place even behind closed doors until June 1 at the earliest.

The second step of these plans involve ‘permitting cultural and sporting events to take place behind closed doors for broadcast, while avoiding the risk of large-scale social contact.’

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https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2020/5/11/21254456/no-professional-sport-england-june-1-project-restart-discussions-continue-premier-league-coronavirus

https://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2020/5/11/21255138/tottenham-hotspur-news-danny-rose-project-restart-bullshit-peoples-lives-are-at-risk

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8292683/Agree-neutral-grounds-season-cancelled-warns-LMA-chief-Richard-Bevan.html

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The recent decision to ease quarantine restrictions in England looks very encouraging for football as well, since after restarting the Premier League, other countries will most likely be able to follow suit.

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Fortunately, most of the domestic European football championships will be played out. As for the decisions of France, Belgium and the Netherlands, this is a big disappointment for everyone.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 08, 2020, 02:54:13 PM

As I understand, clubs from these leagues will qualify to UEFA competitions according to their current position.
Some teams, like Lyon may start legal actions against league decision, though, Lyon president still hope that Ligue can reconsider everything and resume season.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/lyon-chief-aulas-still-hopeful-that-ligue-1-season-will/1e4qx3b85s4ob1gfujwyt8k4b5
Cambuur from Netherlands also considering legal actions because they weren't given promotion to Eredivisie from second division:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/27/cambuur-captain-im-still-angry-its-an-unbelievable-decision

Under this circumstances I don't think Lyon's appeal means anything. I don't think anyone wants leagues canceled. However, it is obvious that this will be the most correct thing to do because of the epidemic. Naturally, huge losses will occur in large leagues due to European cups. Maybe there will be some actions in order to find a solution.

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Quote from: slaman29 on May 08, 2020, 05:11:02 AM

Well, we know already today there won't be French, Dutch or Belgian (LTU misses this out) seasons although PSG were crowned champions already and that league won't be fighting for places but does anyone know who represent Netherlands and Belgium at UEFA competitions next season?

I intentionally didn't mentioned Belgian league because it's not cancelled yet oficially, they still haven't decided. But from recent news, it's most likely that they will be forced to cancel season:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.besoccer.com/new/amp/government-prohibits-competitions-before-31st-july-in-belgium-and-league-to-be-cancelled-830900

As I understand, clubs from these leagues will qualify to UEFA competitions according to their current position.
Some teams, like Lyon may start legal actions against league decision, though, Lyon president still hope that Ligue can reconsider everything and resume season.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/lyon-chief-aulas-still-hopeful-that-ligue-1-season-will/1e4qx3b85s4ob1gfujwyt8k4b5
Cambuur from Netherlands also considering legal actions because they weren't given promotion to Eredivisie from second division:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/27/cambuur-captain-im-still-angry-its-an-unbelievable-decision

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Quote from: slaman29 on May 08, 2020, 05:11:02 AM

Well, we know already today there won't be French, Dutch or Belgian (LTU misses this out) seasons although PSG were crowned champions already and that league won't be fighting for places but does anyone know who represent Netherlands and Belgium at UEFA competitions next season?

Waiting for the Italian and Spanish leagues to continue this year would be a dreamy approach. I think it's better that they don't start. First of all, human health!

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Well, we know already today there won't be French, Dutch or Belgian (LTU misses this out) seasons although PSG were crowned champions already and that league won't be fighting for places but does anyone know who represent Netherlands and Belgium at UEFA competitions next season?

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Quote from: vycl87 on May 07, 2020, 09:47:10 AM

German Bundesliga will be back at 16th May (without fans)
Turkish SuperLeague will be back at 12th July (without fans)

Also English Premier League, Bulgarian League, Serbia and Crotia also will be back.

All of these leagues made an official announcement.

There is way more leagues in Europe which announced return dates. Faroe Islands league will begin this weekend. Estonian league will return on 19th May, Polish on 29th May, Hungarian on 23th May. And Belarus didn't even stopped playing with spectators despite virus

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So far we have only 2 leagues ended - in Netherlands and France. But there is many clubs unhappy about this decision and they already started legal actions against.

Quote from: DeathAngel on May 07, 2020, 12:45:59 PM

Serie A will also finish, all 20 teams voted to make sure the season will be completed. We will soon get a feast of football once again

Seria A probably have worst situation, I'm not sure how they are going to continue season. Even in recent days, there was new virus cases confirmed in several teams like Torino or Fiorentina.

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Quote from: vycl87 on May 07, 2020, 09:47:10 AM

German Bundesliga will be back at 16th May (without fans)
Turkish SuperLeague will be back at 12th July (without fans)

Also English Premier League, Bulgarian League, Serbia and Crotia also will be back.

All of these leagues made an official announcement.

Serie A will also finish, all 20 teams voted to make sure the season will be completed. We will soon get a feast of football once again

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German Bundesliga will be back at 16th May (without fans)
Turkish SuperLeague will be back at 12th July (without fans)

Also English Premier League, Bulgarian League, Serbia and Crotia also will be back.

All of these leagues made an official announcement.

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French Footbal Federation has just announced Ligue 1 also canceled for this year like Eredivise.
I am expecting same decision for Seria A, La Liga and Premier League actually.

Probably, Bundesliga will be completed this summer.

It's sad to see such news. Interesting how it will affect teams which still compete in UEFA cups, like Lyon or PSG. Probably remaining matches of Champions league will be played somewhere on neutral pitch, so they would be allowed to play.
I think that this scenario is possible in your mentioned countries, but I read that teams may be allowed to back on training soon.
AakZaki, AFAIK, UEFA makes such payments to federations every year, it's used for football development, infrastructure improvement, but this year federations will be allowed to use this money to support clubs which were affected by this crisis.

UEFA has already announced that it will provide great financial assistance to all member country clubs. Still, it would be nice to have sports competitions where they should be, on the pitch. I hope everything will be the same next year. Even if I don't watch it very often, I already miss watching a match in the stands.

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June seems to be a tentative date to resume football games. I think that it can only be achieved with an extreme measure of sanitation and Covid19 tests. Without the public, it is sad but we have not yet won the battle against the Coronavirus until there is a cure. Sporting events should be resumed due to their importance to the economy.

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Quote from: Nadziratel on April 28, 2020, 11:31:10 AM

French Footbal Federation has just announced Ligue 1 also canceled for this year like Eredivise.
I am expecting same decision for Seria A, La Liga and Premier League actually.

Probably, Bundesliga will be completed this summer.

It's sad to see such news. Interesting how it will affect teams which still compete in UEFA cups, like Lyon or PSG. Probably remaining matches of Champions league will be played somewhere on neutral pitch, so they would be allowed to play.
I think that this scenario is possible in your mentioned countries, but I read that teams may be allowed to back on training soon.
AakZaki, AFAIK, UEFA makes such payments to federations every year, it's used for football development, infrastructure improvement, but this year federations will be allowed to use this money to support clubs which were affected by this crisis.

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The postponement of various European competitions due to the Covid-19 pandemic had a significant financial impact on all countries on the continent. So far only the Bundesliga in Germany have approached the possibility of continuing the rest of the 2019/20 season competition. Serie A (Italy), Ligue 1 (France), La Liga (Spain) and the English Premier League already have a plan but it is not certain.

UEFA has a program that has been running since 2004, with the aim of providing assistance to members of their federation who need funds related to football development. The funds owned by the program will be used to help all members of the UEFA federation during the Covid-19 pandemic.

UEFA wants to provide assistance to its members in ways that are appropriate to their respective conditions. As a result, an agreement has been reached to provide funding of up to 4.3 million euros to each member of the association, which will be paid in the remainder of the 2019/20 season and the following season, "UEFA President Aleksander Ceferin was quoted by Football Italia^[1]

Reference^[1]: https://www.football-italia.net/152615/uefa-gives-2365m-associations

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French Footbal Federation has just announced Ligue 1 also canceled for this year like Eredivise.
I am expecting same decision for Seria A, La Liga and Premier League actually.

Probably, Bundesliga will be completed this summer.

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I think there should be some distinction between players getting lesser money but at the same time teams still want to get back as well. So, either if leagues comes back that means players should get the 100% amount on their contract, or if they are not going to play they could get a cut.

If the players end up playing that means they shouldn't care about no fans on the arena or where the money is not coming, if teams are not getting money from different sources they normally gets, it doesn't matter to player because obviously they are doing what they are paid to do, they get paid to play and they end up playing which means it doesn't matter to them if teams are not getting the full money they were expecting.

If the company that hires me gives me a contract and then they lose some jobs, do they give me less money? No, they either fire me or they send me on unpaid leave, you can't both make me work and still pay less, same should go for the players as well.

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