UEFA Conference League 2022/23 Season - page 13.

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Quote from: cygan on August 26, 2022, 10:47:53 AM

not only the groups in the europa league were drawn today but also in the conference league. my favorite to win this competition is, based on financial power alone, the english premier league club west ham united

I can say without hesitation that this league is not prestigious and I am were to be UEFA I wouldn't allow the league exist. There are too many under dogs and I don't even know the name of some clubs. We shouldn't expect much here but the favourites are the known names, which is Westham United and Villareal. Atleast Westham got their first winning today.

Ughh, yes, you got my support. True...

It is the same with almost any competition. More and more teams, but this is actually the joke nobody expected. Even though it is cool to know that underdogs get more money, but start another completion called XXXX; nobody really cares. I agree.

This is not to just post. I really mean that nobody is really interested in the conference league. You could call so many leagues something. But there are just these competitions fans are looking forward to...

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Quote from: cygan on August 26, 2022, 10:47:53 AM

not only the groups in the europa league were drawn today but also in the conference league. my favorite to win this competition is, based on financial power alone, the english premier league club west ham united

I can say without hesitation that this league is not prestigious and I am were to be UEFA I wouldn't allow the league exist. There are too many under dogs and I don't even know the name of some clubs. We shouldn't expect much here but the favourites are the known names, which is Westham United and Villareal. Atleast Westham got their first winning today.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 27, 2022, 08:21:55 AM

Quote from: cygan on August 26, 2022, 10:47:53 AM

not only the groups in the europa league were drawn today but also in the conference league. my favorite to win this competition is, based on financial power alone, the english premier league club west ham united

West Ham is certainly one of the favorites to win this competition, but Villareal, the semi-finalist of the Champions League, has a better chance.
It will also be interesting to see if Koln can repeat the success of Frankfurt and how well Anderlecht can. These are probably the biggest favorites to win this competition.
West Ham was very close to the trophy last season and I wish them the best of luck this season, but I think Villareal is still the bigger favorite to win this competition.
English clubs often have a problem in European competitions because of the very difficult and long English league.

If I had to make a bet I would choose Villareal. I don't see West Ham as one of the competitors this season. Of course they could always step up the game, no doubt about that, but Villareal also has some very good experience and not to forget they beat Bayern in the champions league last season. That was quite a statement. You can't beat Bayern if you are not a top team. So with all the international experience they have, I see Villareal as the real favorite here.

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Quote from: cygan on August 26, 2022, 10:47:53 AM

not only the groups in the europa league were drawn today but also in the conference league. my favorite to win this competition is, based on financial power alone, the english premier league club west ham united

West Ham is certainly one of the favorites to win this competition, but Villareal, the semi-finalist of the Champions League, has a better chance.
It will also be interesting to see if Koln can repeat the success of Frankfurt and how well Anderlecht can. These are probably the biggest favorites to win this competition.
West Ham was very close to the trophy last season and I wish them the best of luck this season, but I think Villareal is still the bigger favorite to win this competition.
English clubs often have a problem in European competitions because of the very difficult and long English league.

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Quote from: cygan on August 26, 2022, 10:47:53 AM

Başakşehir and Fiorentina should qualify without any problem in Group A. West Ham is already favorite of the tournament right now, I see Steaua and Anderlecht have similar chances in Group B. Villarreal is another favorite for me. Second place for this group is open for all teams but Villarreal probably finish it first. Partizan, Cologne and Nice will fight for two places, as I watched Slovacko games I don't think they have any chance.
For Group E AZ Alkmaar is by far the favorite but other clubs have same level. Group F is also another balanced group. Sivasspor got bad results this year, I don't see they qualify from this group, Slavia Prag and Cluj will go to next stage. Basel and Bratislava are favorites in Group H. I don't see much surprises here.
After Group stage we may see better matches as I don't see big interest to these games besides fans of these teams.

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not only the groups in the europa league were drawn today but also in the conference league. my favorite to win this competition is, based on financial power alone, the english premier league club west ham united

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UEFA Europa League groups have been announced. Başakşehir is in group A. Başakşehir's group includes Fiorentina, Hearts and RFS. Sivasspor is in group G. Sivasspor's group includes Slavia Prag, Cluj and Ballkani. Also Group B it's just blowing my mind, good luck to everyone. Group B: West Ham, FCSB, Anderlecht and Silkeborg. Group B might as well be a UEFA Europe League Group.

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I am seeing great performances so far from the Romanian team FCSB (Ex Steaua Bucharest) winning also away the second leg in a more convincing way than in the first leg.The same can be said for Cluj which looks really pragmatic and some time even cynical in winning the games with just 1-0 scores and just getting what they want.In fact they just scored at the 90th minute and the game is about to end now,it is great seeing teams from Romania at this level again but what it does not look good for Romania is we don't see Dinamo Bucharest,Rapid Bucharest and other teams from the capital which used to be participants in European competitions and are now almost out from many years.

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There are UEFA Conference League Play-off 2nd leg matches tonight. Başakşehir have to win this game but I'm not very positive about this round for Başakşehir. I think Başakşehir will be eliminated. I hope they surprise me and go to the Group Stage.

Başakşehir's starting XI against Royal Antwerp: Volkan, Şener, Duarte, Ndayishimiye, Hasan Ali, Biglia, Mahmut, Berkay, Serdar, Mounir, Okaka. Royal Antwerp's starting XI against Başakşehir: Butez, De Laet, Alderweireld, Pacho, Vines, Verstraete, Nainggolan, Yusuf, Miyoshi, Ekkelenkamp, Frey.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 25, 2022, 12:15:48 PM

The biggest problem of the Turkish teams in these big tournaments in Europe is that they have big difficulties in showing their real strength. Especially teams like Basaksehir are even struggling more as they don't have too much experience in this kind of an environment. Antwerp are normally not a strong team to beat for them. Actually we watched Basaksehir in the Champions League before. Maybe they didn't perform well but I was hoping them to know what they were doing after this experience.

Today I hope that we see a stronger team against Antwerp. Basaksehir's job might seem harder in this away game but it is up to them to reverse things. They just need to improve their attacking performance more to have the game under control.

I rather think that the Turkish teams have less quality in their teams compared to past times. Years ago there was always a Turkish team that had a couple of really good players in their team. Now it is often the case that players which are too old for other leagues or aren't really at their best level anymore then decide to go to a Turkish team. How in the world would you compete with the top five or six teams from Europe if you sign Özil or Podolski when their best years are ages ago?

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The biggest problem of the Turkish teams in these big tournaments in Europe is that they have big difficulties in showing their real strength. Especially teams like Basaksehir are even struggling more as they don't have too much experience in this kind of an environment. Antwerp are normally not a strong team to beat for them. Actually we watched Basaksehir in the Champions League before. Maybe they didn't perform well but I was hoping them to know what they were doing after this experience.

Today I hope that we see a stronger team against Antwerp. Basaksehir's job might seem harder in this away game but it is up to them to reverse things. They just need to improve their attacking performance more to have the game under control.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on August 20, 2022, 04:43:51 PM

It was a sad night for Başakşehir. They had not on keeping the 1-0 advantage against Antwerp at their home. The next match will be at the home of Royal Antwerp. But I'm not very positive about next round for them. I think Başakşehir will be eliminated. I hope they surprise me and go to the Group Stage.

It's time for second leg, Başakşehir have to win this game as they made heavy investment to the team again. If they can't play in Europe then all of these investment will be gone for nothing. Bertrand Traore, Mesut Özil, Mounir Chouiar, Leo Duarte, Lucas Biglia, Patryk Szysz and Francis Nzaba came to Başakşehir. When you make these kind of transfers you have to play in both leagues. If it's only for local league that means Başakşehir will be in a huge loss.
Royal Antwerp is a though opponent but Başakşehir has way better squad. I hope they won't fail this time. Stop Frey again and don't let any set ball to be dangerous, that should be the formula tonight.

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Tomorrow is the return game between APOEL and Jurgorden. The first game was soundly beaten by the Swedes 3-0. I don't know who will win this time, but I think that in any case the Conference League ends for the Cypriots. I'm more interested in the return games, which will be in a few days. I'm sure there will be plenty of good matches there.

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This is a very common thing among the Turkish teams when it comes to European tournaments I'm afraid.

Turkish teams had unbelievably bad results this week. There was no team that performed well except Fenerbahçe. Our clubs spend incredible amounts of money on new transfers. But they can't form a good team. I think our most important problem is stability. We are always in a change, but we are not stable. That's why we are faced with surprising results.

What you said about Turkish teams is true. They pay more than the leagues in Europe, and they cannot provide the necessary success. You said Fenerbahce was successful, but Fenerbahce is a much better quality team than its rival. They should have won that game differently. There should be teams aiming for the semi-finals in European cups. Anyway, back to the topic, there may be surprise results in the Conference league. Everything will be clear after the rematch.

They pay more for what? I haven't seen real superstars transfer over into the Turkish league recently. Usually it is only players who are quite far away from their peak and are looking for a last chance to make some cash in a league in Europe.

Internationally, there wasn't much to be celebrated for the Turkish clubs over the last couple of years. If anything, they should at least be able to successfully compete in the Conference league in order to become a more attractive destination for some of the better players, but for now it doesn't look as if that was going to happen. It is also not really what the strong players are looking for, to play in the Conference league. One way out would really be to form a top team as they used to have years and years ago.

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It was a sad night for Başakşehir. They had not on keeping the 1-0 advantage against Antwerp at their home. The next match will be at the home of Royal Antwerp. But I'm not very positive about next round for them. I think Başakşehir will be eliminated. I hope they surprise me and go to the Group Stage.

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Quote from: flipme on August 20, 2022, 09:26:36 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 18, 2022, 06:51:22 PM

This is a very common thing among the Turkish teams when it comes to European tournaments I'm afraid.

Turkish teams had unbelievably bad results this week. There was no team that performed well except Fenerbahçe. Our clubs spend incredible amounts of money on new transfers. But they can't form a good team. I think our most important problem is stability. We are always in a change, but we are not stable. That's why we are faced with surprising results.

What you said about Turkish teams is true. They pay more than the leagues in Europe, and they cannot provide the necessary success. You said Fenerbahce was successful, but Fenerbahce is a much better quality team than its rival. They should have won that game differently. There should be teams aiming for the semi-finals in European cups. Anyway, back to the topic, there may be surprise results in the Conference league. Everything will be clear after the rematch.

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Quote from: flipme on August 20, 2022, 09:26:36 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 18, 2022, 06:51:22 PM

This is a very common thing among the Turkish teams when it comes to European tournaments I'm afraid.

Turkish teams had unbelievably bad results this week. There was no team that performed well except Fenerbahçe. Our clubs spend incredible amounts of money on new transfers. But they can't form a good team. I think our most important problem is stability. We are always in a change, but we are not stable. That's why we are faced with surprising results.

It has indeed been quite some time ago that a Turkish team was really hard to beat. It is also not the big clubs from the past that dominate the league anymore. Usually it was the same two to three top teams which also performed pretty well internationally, but those times seem to be over currently.

Is Özil already playing for Istanbul BB? There aren't really many words about him, but his best times are probably over anyway. The transfer to Erdogan's club was probably due to the good relationship he has with Erdogan. I doubt that Özil is still able to elevate Istanbul's game to the next level. He doesn't really look that motivated anymore. Maybe he made some good money and is now having his final years of his professional career. At first I expected him to go into the US or so instead of another Turkish club.

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Does anyone follow the results of the clubs from North Macedonia, Kosovo and Bosnia in this competition?
After winning the first matches, Zrinjski from Bosnia and Ballkani from Kosovo are very close to advancing to the group stage of this competition, which would be the first time in history that a club from Kosovo and Bosnia play in the group stage of a European football competition.
Really surprising and unexpected results and it seems we are about to watch football history being made Grin

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 18, 2022, 06:51:22 PM

This is a very common thing among the Turkish teams when it comes to European tournaments I'm afraid.

Turkish teams had unbelievably bad results this week. There was no team that performed well except Fenerbahçe. Our clubs spend incredible amounts of money on new transfers. But they can't form a good team. I think our most important problem is stability. We are always in a change, but we are not stable. That's why we are faced with surprising results.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 18, 2022, 06:51:22 PM

It wasn't a good night for Basaksehir. They had big problems on keeping the 1-0 advantage against Antwerp. Their being under a big pressure brought the equalizer as well in the last minutes. This is a very common thing among the Turkish teams when it comes to European tournaments I'm afraid. Basaksehir could struggle more in the rematch and I'm not very positive about next round for them.

The goal in the 88th minute from Dinis Almeida made Basaksehir inevitably have to give up their victory that was in sight.
Sozer should have known from this match what to do in the second leg and the evaluation they have to do is to stay focused, especially in the first 10 minutes and the last 10 minutes because this is indeed a crucial minute in the match.

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