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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 04, 2024, 11:42:49 AM

Quote from: nelson4lov on November 03, 2024, 05:55:47 PM

You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.

It reminds me of the 22/23 season. Everyone talked about United winning the Europa League, but they didn't. Too many people are discussing only Manchester United. They are unaware that we have Roma, which is becoming the Serie A version of Manchester United. Cheesy

And Manchester United is still play europa league against Glimt under RVN.

At least I also wonder, why are they too excited about Ruben Amorim when in fact Manchester United also still entrusts the coaching chair to Ruud van Nistelrooy at this time. I think, if Ruud van Nistelrooy succeeds in making Manchester United better when compared to the Erik ten Hag era, then I think there is no problem if Manchester United gives Ruud van Nistelrooy more time to become Manchester United's head coach this season.

Because after all, even though Manchester United looks better after the dismissal of Erik ten Hag, but we also can't expect too much from Manchester United. Because of course, there is still a lot of work to be fixed at Manchester United, at least being in a better position in the Premier League standings I think that's enough, because that might also have a good impact on the results that Manchester United will get in the Europa League.

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Quote from: irhact on November 03, 2024, 07:08:07 AM

But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.

When you would have said all these, and people would begin to see reasons with you, to expect more from Ruben Amorim, would have been if Manchester United were in good form already and Ruben Amorim was to be the new coach, in already formidable team. Not the one Ten Hag left it with.

Already, Manchester United is not in their best form, and they have gone below the table spot of the Europa League. The possible means of Manchester United lifting the trophy is not that open this season(it's very rare) Maybe next season or so, when Ruben Amorim has established the kind of squad he wants Manchester United to have, we can think of the possibilities of Manchester United lifting the Europa and reaching the top 4 spot of the PL.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 03, 2024, 05:55:47 PM

You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.

First of all, what should be done is for the new manager to arrange the team and prepare them to be able to play like a team, and then identity the players that he thinks shouldn't be in the club and also the ones he wants to come in, and above all, they should also guarantee the manager of no interference so he can proactively carry out his functions as the head coach, after all these have been put in place then they can start talking about laurels, for now I don't see that coming in for them because they do not have what it takes to win any trophy and should rather concentrate on building the team to be competitive.

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But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.

Do you expect Ruben Amorim wins UEL trophy with Man United in his first season? I think it is too early to expect a big trophy, Ruben Amorim may need some adaptations on Man United. He probably won't win any trophy in his first season. It is not easy to manage a team like Man United because this team has too complicated problems. I assume we don't expect too much on him in this season. I personally only want to see Man United can finish in the top 5. If Ruben Amorim can do it, I think he is successful in this season. For UEL trophy, it shouldn't be a priority because it is something difficult to get by Man United in this season.

I don't think we can compare Manchester United today with when ten Hag first coached the team, when Ten Hag took over Manchester United, at that time Manchester United condition was still good condition when ten hag took over the team, but for now of course you know that Manchester United is in very bad shape, So we can't charge Amorim to win the championship in his first season coaching, Amorim has great potential and ability in coaching but I think he will still need time to restore Manchester United mentality and performance after being down during Ten Hag coaching so far, besides that every manager has a different style and approach so adapting to a new club certainly allows a process to happen and we can't equate one coach with another coach.

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Manchester United will face PAOK on the next UEFA Europe League match on Friday night but still manage by the interim manager Ruud Van Nistelrooy, in last three matches still not winning one match yet after being draw all and make Manchester United dropped to 21th standings awhile with three points.
Have bad capital after being draw by Chelsea at Premier League match must be motivate for securing three points if want get opportunity qualify to knock our round or have been eliminated early at phase league round.

Until matchday 3, have three teams success 100% winning trend from Tottenham Hotspur, Lazio and Anderlecht keep winning last three consecutives match. Upcoming match Tottenham Hotspur have difficult opponent teams agianst Galatasaray will success securing the unbeaten record?

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Quote from: imamusma on November 04, 2024, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 04, 2024, 08:29:03 AM

Hopefully what is being talked about now about Manchester United's future with Ruben can become a reality. But for the fans, I hope you don't hope too much, because if it doesn't come true, it will be even more disappointing. There's nothing wrong with hoping for something, with the note that I said at the beginning, don't be too excessive. I can't say for sure whether the players who were inherited are enough for him to make a change, or he needs until the transfer window opens to make his performance even more optimal. Because some of the players who were inherited, when Erik ten Hag became their coach, played below their best performance, and hopefully his arrival can make the players be at their best level.

Ruben Amorim seems to be relying on Ten Hag legacy squad until the end of the season, and will only completely overhaul his squad in June. However, a January transfer deal is possible, but they will have to let go of some existing players first to achieve their goals. If I understand correctly, Ruben Amorim position is a coach and not a manager like Ten Hag. If that is true, it will clearly limit his room to move in the transfer market. Meanwhile, fans expectations will obviously increase drastically with the appointment of Ruben Amorim, which is understandable, but I agree that fans should not expect too much in his first season.

I also think we shouldn't expect much in the first season. They will compete with a squad that they didn't build themselves in the first season. Amorim will strive for the best, but I don't think he should be held responsible if he has poor results. I think he should be given an opportunity. This opportunity should be next season because he can only solve this problem in the summer transfer period.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 05, 2024, 06:43:11 AM

Why shouldn’t Ruben Amorim be capable of leading Manchester United to success in this season's Europa League? He is a skilled coach with all the technical abilities necessary to achieve this. While Erik ten Hag initially brought some success to Manchester United, he frequently clashed with his players and made a lot of mistakes in his game plan. I believe that Manchester United’s new head coach, Ruben Amorim, can achieve immediate success at the club and with the help of Ruud van Nistelrooy build strong relationships with his players to reach new heights.

Manchester United should also think that they have to play well. The coach has done his job he has done his job honestly. Because everyone knows him as the best coach. Manchester United is not a team of kids they know how to play that why they are not playing well and win matches. Their record is also so bad that they have won only one match in the matches play in the week so far. They should think that they are play for the title. We could only hope for them because Manchester United could not play well even in their way then the fault lies with the players of Manchester United and not with any coach. Manchester United should see if they start play well then they can be a strong team from now on.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 04, 2024, 11:11:10 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 04, 2024, 08:29:03 AM

Hopefully what is being talked about now about Manchester United's future with Ruben can become a reality. But for the fans, I hope you don't hope too much, because if it doesn't come true, it will be even more disappointing. There's nothing wrong with hoping for something, with the note that I said at the beginning, don't be too excessive. I can't say for sure whether the players who were inherited are enough for him to make a change, or he needs until the transfer window opens to make his performance even more optimal. Because some of the players who were inherited, when Erik ten Hag became their coach, played below their best performance, and hopefully his arrival can make the players be at their best level.

Ruben Amorim seems to be relying on Ten Hag legacy squad until the end of the season, and will only completely overhaul his squad in June. However, a January transfer deal is possible, but they will have to let go of some existing players first to achieve their goals. If I understand correctly, Ruben Amorim position is a coach and not a manager like Ten Hag. If that is true, it will clearly limit his room to move in the transfer market. Meanwhile, fans expectations will obviously increase drastically with the appointment of Ruben Amorim, which is understandable, but I agree that fans should not expect too much in his first season.

Ruben Amorim is not a magician and might only be able to contribute little to the teams performance this season, and no one should expect too much from him. It will be by next season when he has understand the players potential, and how to use them with his own playing strategy is when people can expect good results. However, since he is not given the right to get players of his choice, that might be challenging to him. I don't know why Manchester united management gave too much to Ten Hag and yet he messed things up.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 04, 2024, 12:34:34 PM

UEFA took a scandalous decision and usurped Beşiktaş's right to play home matches. While the Maccabi Tel Aviv match should have been played in İstanbul, it was announced that it would be played in another country. This is stealing Beşiktaş's right, on what grounds can you usurp a home game? Unfortunately, the UEFA mafia is at work again. The situation in Israel doesn't affect the away games of football teams in any way. If the situation was the other way around, the match should have been played somewhere else instead of Israel, but the match is in Türkiye, not Israel. Why is such a decision being taken? Israel has a strong lobby, but there is no proper justification for this decision. Because there is no logical explanation. Beşiktaş can beat that team anywhere, but it's not acceptable that our right was stolen in front of our eyes. Legal experts should examine this situation and a solid compensation should be obtained. This decision is harmful for us both in football and economically. UEFA should compensate us for this. The Turkish government should do everything it can against this decision and protect Turkish clubs.

It’s absolutely unfair for UEFA to take away Besiktas's right to play their home games, as it undermines the integrity of fair play and respect for club rights. This decision doesn’t reflect well on UEFA’s commitment to equal treatment for all teams. In my opinion, Besiktas should strongly consider filing a formal petition against UEFA, standing up for their rights and for the support of their fans who deserve to see their team play at home.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 05, 2024, 06:43:11 AM

Why shouldn’t Ruben Amorim be capable of leading Manchester United to success in this season's Europa League? He is a skilled coach with all the technical abilities necessary to achieve this. While Erik ten Hag initially brought some success to Manchester United, he frequently clashed with his players and made a lot of mistakes in his game plan. I believe that Manchester United’s new head coach, Ruben Amorim, can achieve immediate success at the club and with the help of Ruud van Nistelrooy build strong relationships with his players to reach new heights.

There is no doubt about Ruben Amorim abilities and leading to Manchester United into final of the UEFA Europa Cup but it's never been easy for anyone to manage Manchester United because it's one of the biggest but wired club in Premier League and things are never been easy for any coach to handle this all as we have in last few years many coaches already sacked due to their poor performance even we have few qualities.

Now in next few days we will have this new era in this club history as Ruben Amorim is coming and looking for rebuild this club and its reputation which is under serious threat due to the worst start of this season and having terrible performance in last few years under Eric Ten Hag.

Mostly are expecting positive changes for club but still it's not easy and Ruben Amorim needs time for doing this because first he will take time for understanding and having some positive changes in January which will help him for bringing good results which are looking not easy.

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Quote from: irhact on November 03, 2024, 07:08:07 AM

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Ruben Amorim is a good coach, and I don’t think he necessarily needs direction from Ruud van Nistelrooy to understand the situation at Manchester United or the condition of the players after Erik ten Hag’s dismissal. He’s a skilled coach with the technical know-how to connect with his players. Given that the current club captain is Portuguese, I wouldn’t be surprised if he quickly builds a strong rapport with the new team and players, allowing him to focus on the tasks ahead.

But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.

Why shouldn’t Ruben Amorim be capable of leading Manchester United to success in this season's Europa League? He is a skilled coach with all the technical abilities necessary to achieve this. While Erik ten Hag initially brought some success to Manchester United, he frequently clashed with his players and made a lot of mistakes in his game plan. I believe that Manchester United’s new head coach, Ruben Amorim, can achieve immediate success at the club and with the help of Ruud van Nistelrooy build strong relationships with his players to reach new heights.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 04, 2024, 08:29:03 AM

Quote from: xzone on November 04, 2024, 07:29:27 AM

Of course, we should not rush to say some things. But Manchester United needed such a refresh. Ruben Amorim is a successful name, he will definitely be of great help to the team. The team can be very successful after Manchester United makes 1-2 transfers, they have a stronger squad than the teams in this league. Of course, the players and the coach need to get used to each other, but Amorim is a coach who can do this, everything will be fine

Hopefully what is being talked about now about Manchester United's future with Ruben can become a reality. But for the fans, I hope you don't hope too much, because if it doesn't come true, it will be even more disappointing. There's nothing wrong with hoping for something, with the note that I said at the beginning, don't be too excessive. I can't say for sure whether the players who were inherited are enough for him to make a change, or he needs until the transfer window opens to make his performance even more optimal. Because some of the players who were inherited, when Erik ten Hag became their coach, played below their best performance, and hopefully his arrival can make the players be at their best level.

Well, what you said is absolutely correct, because Ruben Amorim's first season in coaching Manchester United it was quite difficult, especially to win a title in his first season, of course it was quite impossible when Man United's condition was in chaos, it was better not to expect too much, the most important thing is that Man United can improve their performance, that is proof that Ruben Amorim can do his job well and hopefully it will continue to improve so that he can restore Man United's glory.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 04, 2024, 11:11:10 AM

Ruben Amorim seems to be relying on Ten Hag legacy squad until the end of the season, and will only completely overhaul his squad in June. However, a January transfer deal is possible, but they will have to let go of some existing players first to achieve their goals. If I understand correctly, Ruben Amorim position is a coach and not a manager like Ten Hag. If that is true, it will clearly limit his room to move in the transfer market. Meanwhile, fans expectations will obviously increase drastically with the appointment of Ruben Amorim, which is understandable, but I agree that fans should not expect too much in his first season.

Manchester United fans do not need to expect more from Ruben Amorim for this season because he also needs to make a good adjustment with the players and the current condition of the Manchester United team. But if Ruben Amorim is able to provide something better since this season to Manchester United, it will certainly make his name very famous and praised by Manchester United fans even though he does not have the authority to buy new players because he is only tasked with being an ordinary coach in the current Manchester United team.

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Quote from: irhact on November 03, 2024, 07:08:07 AM

But can he lead Manchester United to the Europa League trophy this season or will Manchester United fans come up with the excuse that we should give him more time at the club. There are managers that takeover the management of a club and brings them success instantly by winning them some trophies. Erik ten hag did it for Manchester United when he took over therefore Ruben Amorim have to do the same or for me he has failed. Arteta did it for Arsenal too and when managers bring success to the club then the club can give them more time to build the team to the standard that they can work with the players to bring success to the club.

Do you expect Ruben Amorim wins UEL trophy with Man United in his first season? I think it is too early to expect a big trophy, Ruben Amorim may need some adaptations on Man United. He probably won't win any trophy in his first season. It is not easy to manage a team like Man United because this team has too complicated problems. I assume we don't expect too much on him in this season. I personally only want to see Man United can finish in the top 5. If Ruben Amorim can do it, I think he is successful in this season. For UEL trophy, it shouldn't be a priority because it is something difficult to get by Man United in this season.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on November 04, 2024, 11:42:49 AM

It reminds me of the 22/23 season. Everyone talked about United winning the Europa League, but they didn't. Too many people are discussing only Manchester United. They are unaware that we have Roma, which is becoming the Serie A version of Manchester United. Cheesy

And Manchester United is still play europa league against Glimt under RVN.

I don't see any direct odds for the title right now, but here are the teams' odds of reaching the final:

Tottenham Hotspur - 2.63

Manchester United - 4.50

Athletic Bilbao - 5.00

Lazio - 5.50

As Roma - 6.00

Real Sociedad - 7.00

Fc Porto - 8.00

Galatasaray - 8.00

Eintracht Frankfurt - 9.00

Lyon - 9.00

There is obviously a direct correlation with title chances. United are much closer to Lazio, Athletic, etc. than Tottenham. You can say that Tottenham are the favorites and all the others are underdogs, and it is difficult to argue with such an assessment because Tottenham looks better than the other teams and there will be no “additions” from the Champions League this year.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 03, 2024, 05:55:47 PM

You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.

It reminds me of the 22/23 season. Everyone talked about United winning the Europa League, but they didn't. Too many people are discussing only Manchester United. They are unaware that we have Roma, which is becoming the Serie A version of Manchester United. Cheesy

And Manchester United is still play europa league against Glimt under RVN.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 04, 2024, 08:29:03 AM

Hopefully what is being talked about now about Manchester United's future with Ruben can become a reality. But for the fans, I hope you don't hope too much, because if it doesn't come true, it will be even more disappointing. There's nothing wrong with hoping for something, with the note that I said at the beginning, don't be too excessive. I can't say for sure whether the players who were inherited are enough for him to make a change, or he needs until the transfer window opens to make his performance even more optimal. Because some of the players who were inherited, when Erik ten Hag became their coach, played below their best performance, and hopefully his arrival can make the players be at their best level.

Ruben Amorim seems to be relying on Ten Hag legacy squad until the end of the season, and will only completely overhaul his squad in June. However, a January transfer deal is possible, but they will have to let go of some existing players first to achieve their goals. If I understand correctly, Ruben Amorim position is a coach and not a manager like Ten Hag. If that is true, it will clearly limit his room to move in the transfer market. Meanwhile, fans expectations will obviously increase drastically with the appointment of Ruben Amorim, which is understandable, but I agree that fans should not expect too much in his first season.

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Quote from: xzone on November 04, 2024, 07:29:27 AM

Quote from: nelson4lov on November 03, 2024, 05:55:47 PM

You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.

Of course, we should not rush to say some things. But Manchester United needed such a refresh. Ruben Amorim is a successful name, he will definitely be of great help to the team. The team can be very successful after Manchester United makes 1-2 transfers, they have a stronger squad than the teams in this league. Of course, the players and the coach need to get used to each other, but Amorim is a coach who can do this, everything will be fine

Hopefully what is being talked about now about Manchester United's future with Ruben can become a reality. But for the fans, I hope you don't hope too much, because if it doesn't come true, it will be even more disappointing. There's nothing wrong with hoping for something, with the note that I said at the beginning, don't be too excessive. I can't say for sure whether the players who were inherited are enough for him to make a change, or he needs until the transfer window opens to make his performance even more optimal. Because some of the players who were inherited, when Erik ten Hag became their coach, played below their best performance, and hopefully his arrival can make the players be at their best level.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on November 03, 2024, 05:55:47 PM

You guys are too early on the Rúben Amorim speculations on a possible Man Utd UEL trophy win. Ruben hasn't even taken the reigns yet but the debate is already getting heated. I would prefer if we wait at least till the group phase is finished and observed how well Man Utd performs in the 5 remaining fixtures. If he's going to win the UEL with Man Utd, there would be signs like Man Utd like success group stage + knockout stages before we start even talking about quarter + semis.

Of course, we should not rush to say some things. But Manchester United needed such a refresh. Ruben Amorim is a successful name, he will definitely be of great help to the team. The team can be very successful after Manchester United makes 1-2 transfers, they have a stronger squad than the teams in this league. Of course, the players and the coach need to get used to each other, but Amorim is a coach who can do this, everything will be fine

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