UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 150.

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Was anyone expecting Manchester United to win the Europa League at first? I don't think that anyone tips that Manchester United will win the Europa League this season. On which premise will anyone even think of that.
Come to think of it, how did Manchester United qualify for the Europa League?

And seeing how they are now, it is increasingly convincing that their performance is getting worse. There is no chance and even their current position is too bad at 21st, it is really hopeless. The reason they entered the Europa League is indeed like that, because the club won the 2023–24 FA Cup against Man City. Yes, there is nothing to expect from all that, it is increasingly convincing.

Manchester United is maintaining its position thanks to some luck and some performance. Other than that they would be overthrown to the other side of the table in English Premier League and from all competitions including UEFA Europa League.
They have a respectable manager and good players and an amount of failure that worth to be studied in prestigious football academies!

Manchester United need to improve some important aspects to end their current negative trend, the consistency of their current performance is the cause of their slump in the European league and also domestically, so I think if ten hag can't overcome that then they will continue to slump later, in the european league we can see how ten hag made a ridiculous experiment in his strategy to face Fenerbache, Even though if we pay attention to their game strategy when facing Brentford is actually better and Ten Hag should have applied it when facing Fenerbache, but in fact Ten Hag prefers to experiment as if underestimating Fenerbache in the match, although currently Manchester United has many talented players in their squad but without the support of a good strategy from Ten Hag of course it will be difficult for them to rise.

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Quote from: Catenaccio on October 26, 2024, 01:14:19 AM

Manchester United are considering possible replacements for Ten Hag and rumor is Simeone Inzaghi and Xavi as top of possible coaches for a next coach of Manchester United. If Manchester United try to lower their season targets, just to save the incapable coach, they will continue with no improvement and no achievement in coming seasons with Ten Hag.

Simeone Inzaghi is a good enough coach. With Simeone Inzaghi we watched Inter Milan's performance. Inter Milan played in the Champions League final. However, failed to win the Champions League title. Inter Milan also managed to win the Serie A title under Simeone Inzaghi.

Also Xavi was fired by Barcelona but he is an excellent coach. Xavi took over at Barcelona at a time when Barcelona were a team in complete disarray. Xavi has gradually stabilized Barcelona. And the team won the La Liga title. So I think Manchester United will benefit if Xavi is given the role of coach

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Results are bad and Manchester United owner probably wait for terrible results to sack Ten Hag. They are too much hesitating in firing the coach and move on with another one. Ten Hag is incapable so as Manchester United owner, they both need to leave the club.

Manchester United management has invested a lot of money on TEn Hag. And sacking Ten Hag would cost United financially. Perhaps this is why the Manchester United management has not yet decided to sack Ten Hag. But it is certain that Manchester United's performance will not improve if Ten Hag is not sacked.

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Quote from: joniboini on October 26, 2024, 12:43:40 AM

I believe they're ready to pull the trigger at the Villa game, CMIIW. The result gives him ETH time but if he fails to bring MU to the knockout stage of the Europa League I think he's gone. There's no way another Carabao Cup can save him IMO. I do think losing MU so early is not good for the Europa League, simply because the viewership will probably decrease. The memes will be funny though.

Manchester United are considering possible replacements for Ten Hag and rumor is Simeone Inzaghi and Xavi as top of possible coaches for a next coach of Manchester United. If Manchester United try to lower their season targets, just to save the incapable coach, they will continue with no improvement and no achievement in coming seasons with Ten Hag.

Results are bad and Manchester United owner probably wait for terrible results to sack Ten Hag. They are too much hesitating in firing the coach and move on with another one. Ten Hag is incapable so as Manchester United owner, they both need to leave the club.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 25, 2024, 09:00:54 PM

I believe they'll sack Ten Hag before the winter transfer season.

I believe they're ready to pull the trigger at the Villa game, CMIIW. The result gives him ETH time but if he fails to bring MU to the knockout stage of the Europa League I think he's gone. There's no way another Carabao Cup can save him IMO. I do think losing MU so early is not good for the Europa League, simply because the viewership will probably decrease. The memes will be funny though.

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Quote from: snipie on October 25, 2024, 07:54:12 PM

Manchester United is maintaining its position thanks to some luck and some performance. Other than that they would be overthrown to the other side of the table in English Premier League and from all competitions including UEFA Europa League.
They have a respectable manager and good players and an amount of failure that worth to be studied in prestigious football academies!

Fenerbahce was able to match Manchester United's game so that they managed to create an unbeaten chance in the match. Manchester United themselves were not in their best form because they lost slightly regarding ball possession. The winning percentage should have been much greater for Manchester United compared to Fenerbahce but they failed to take advantage of the best opportunities because Fenerbahce played more neatly and solidly.

Although Manchester United did not get a defeat, in my opinion they threw away too many points in matches that they should have won and that really needs to be fixed by Erik Ten Hak.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 24, 2024, 05:04:26 PM

It's now officially that Erik Ten Hang cannot win an Europa match

Last week Manchester United coach put up a camouflage by being able to win Brentford but I was of the opinion that he has not improved a bit. Due you he was able to win, the pressure of being sacked or the speculation because there was no pressure on him was less. But today, he has proven that there's no significant change as he was unable to beat Fenerbahce even after scoring first. Manchester United is unable to win their 3 matches in the Europa league and there's no sign that things will change for them.

I am keen to seeing how Manchester United will end up with Erik Ten Hang. From champions league contenders to Europa league strugglers.

It's painful to watch Manchester United is failing this hard. It's all due to the bad decisions by INEOS and the Glazers to keep the baldy fraud. It's been 12 months since we saw Man Utd won their european game. And i can't believe the owners are still trusting the delusional statement by baldy fraud.

It's a managerial issue. The management must address it by recruiting a new coach for the club.

The latest news says Man Utd is looking for a new coach. I believe they'll sack Ten Hag before the winter transfer season.

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Quote from: fadhilz123 on October 25, 2024, 05:35:01 PM

I also have a view that is not much different from yours where the Roma coach has to see the side that is still lacking so that it can be rebuilt in the Roma team. Because in previous seasons Roma was a team that was so respected by other teams in the Europa League, but for this season it seems that it is no longer there. So the Roma coach himself must be able to realize this and try to make Roma perform much better with players who still have good quality this season so that they are not considered useless when they are in the Roma team.

The previous session Roma is still have Jose Mourinho as head coach. That coach is considering Roma as a respected club after getting the UEFA Conference Cup Thropy. Now with De Rossi, Roma still has a problem with consolidation for each player. I admit, when we talk about strategy, De Rossi is enough brilliant to formulate the strategies. But, he still lack to considering it on the field. But at least he has shown it on the last match. Roma is able to win when face Dynamo Kiev. De Rossi enough briliant to give space Zeki Celik to move on any area. He become a player which can move as offensive and defensive player. This can be note for De Rossi to considering him to next match.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 25, 2024, 06:58:45 PM

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FT Fenerbahçe 1 vs 1 Manchester United.

3x play, 3x draw,
5 GF, 5 GA

Was anyone expecting Manchester United to win the Europa League at first? I don't think that anyone tips that Manchester United will win the Europa League this season. On which premise will anyone even think of that.
Come to think of it, how did Manchester United qualify for the Europa League?

And seeing how they are now, it is increasingly convincing that their performance is getting worse. There is no chance and even their current position is too bad at 21st, it is really hopeless. The reason they entered the Europa League is indeed like that, because the club won the 2023–24 FA Cup against Man City. Yes, there is nothing to expect from all that, it is increasingly convincing.

Manchester United is maintaining its position thanks to some luck and some performance. Other than that they would be overthrown to the other side of the table in English Premier League and from all competitions including UEFA Europa League.
They have a respectable manager and good players and an amount of failure that worth to be studied in prestigious football academies!

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 25, 2024, 06:58:45 PM

Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 24, 2024, 06:23:35 PM

Was anyone expecting Manchester United to win the Europa League at first? I don't think that anyone tips that Manchester United will win the Europa League this season. On which premise will anyone even think of that.
Come to think of it, how did Manchester United qualify for the Europa League?

And seeing how they are now, it is increasingly convincing that their performance is getting worse. There is no chance and even their current position is too bad at 21st, it is really hopeless. The reason they entered the Europa League is indeed like that, because the club won the 2023–24 FA Cup against Man City. Yes, there is nothing to expect from all that, it is increasingly convincing.

yeah man United qualified for the European league not because they got a good ranking in the Premier league. But they escaped because they won the FA Cup which miraculously enabled them to beat Man City whose strength was actually very different from theirs. So it is not surprising that in the ongoing European League we see Man United unable to get maximum results.

And it is not surprising to see Man United continue to get draws in the 3 matches they have played in the European League this season. This only explains to us that this team really needs fresh air and big changes both in terms of managerial and other things that are needed. Because if it continues like this we will only see Man United falling into an even worse reputation.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 24, 2024, 06:23:35 PM

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FT Fenerbahçe 1 vs 1 Manchester United.

3x play, 3x draw,
5 GF, 5 GA

Was anyone expecting Manchester United to win the Europa League at first? I don't think that anyone tips that Manchester United will win the Europa League this season. On which premise will anyone even think of that.
Come to think of it, how did Manchester United qualify for the Europa League?

And seeing how they are now, it is increasingly convincing that their performance is getting worse. There is no chance and even their current position is too bad at 21st, it is really hopeless. The reason they entered the Europa League is indeed like that, because the club won the 2023–24 FA Cup against Man City. Yes, there is nothing to expect from all that, it is increasingly convincing.

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Quote from: len01 on October 25, 2024, 02:38:36 PM

Damn! Surprise happened with FCSB performance and bad performance from Lyon. Luckily I still got @4 because I cashed out when I had doubts.

FCSB as the favorite team against Rangers who should have easily been able to get full points but were humiliated by a big score.
While Lyon also as the favorite team and also as the host was humiliated by Besiktas who was the weakest team before.
I think there are a lot of surprises in the European league matches since this new system.

I lost a bet yesterday where I placed a bet on Lyon to win, usually I don't use that strategy to gamble but I felt there was no harm in trying because Lyon was favored the most, had better form and depth probably which got me believing they were going to win but they reminded me that there's actually harm in trying some things, I have learned my lessons and would probably learn to stick with the patterns I have always sticked ro as my strategy, though I will still dare to take certain risk with spare funds.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on October 25, 2024, 03:56:18 PM

As Roma need to focus more if not it will not be funny anymore for them. Just take an example that you mentioned about Dovyk, last season his performance was very amazing, but just take a look on how his career is been wasted in Roma, the coach need to know that best approach to change the narration of the team if not we might start seeing the teams that are not even up to there standard winning them in a game, although we are not praying for that to happen. But just take a look at the game yesterday, it remain a bit if not they will end up going on a draw with a team like Dynamo Kiev.

I also have a view that is not much different from yours where the Roma coach has to see the side that is still lacking so that it can be rebuilt in the Roma team. Because in previous seasons Roma was a team that was so respected by other teams in the Europa League, but for this season it seems that it is no longer there. So the Roma coach himself must be able to realize this and try to make Roma perform much better with players who still have good quality this season so that they are not considered useless when they are in the Roma team.

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Quote from: KingsDen on October 24, 2024, 05:04:26 PM

It's now officially that Erik Ten Hang cannot win an Europa match

Last week Manchester United coach put up a camouflage by being able to win Brentford but I was of the opinion that he has not improved a bit. Due you he was able to win, the pressure of being sacked or the speculation because there was no pressure on him was less. But today, he has proven that there's no significant change as he was unable to beat Fenerbahce even after scoring first. Manchester United is unable to win their 3 matches in the Europa league and there's no sign that things will change for them.

I am keen to seeing how Manchester United will end up with Erik Ten Hang. From champions league contenders to Europa league strugglers.

If you've seen no improvements then you must have seen a different game, and for posters that said Erik ten Hag has no playing style, Did you see any yesterday? Or you watched the back of your TV? Even without Bruno Fernandez, Manchester United did well they should have scored a good goal when Casemiro came on but the pass was just too much. People who watched that game without bias will tell you otherwise because, Victor Lindelof was responsible for that goal scored. I consider it a dump take to put blames on Erik ten Hag yesterday but in conclusion, they need to start winning games.

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Quote from: len01 on October 25, 2024, 02:38:36 PM

Damn! Surprise happened with FCSB performance and bad performance from Lyon. Luckily I still got @4 because I cashed out when I had doubts.

FCSB as the favorite team against Rangers who should have easily been able to get full points but were humiliated by a big score.
While Lyon also as the favorite team and also as the host was humiliated by Besiktas who was the weakest team before.
I think there are a lot of surprises in the European league matches since this new system.

You are really lucky to have cash out otherwise it would have been a lost bet and this is the advantage of the cash out features so that in a case of doubt you can just cash out from the events that has already played according to your predictions. Most of the Europa league games really played accordingly, only few matches didn't follow the favorite odds of the bookies and Lyon really destroyed a lot of bets because people didn't believe they could lose at home to Besiktas and they could not even get a score because the game just ended by 1:0 which is a result that many gamblers didn't saw coming because most people played either Lyon to win, both teams to score or over goals but it sadly ended with just one goal which is quite difficult to get the prediction.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 25, 2024, 01:48:34 PM

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I don’t even know if Manchester United will be able to win any game as this competition is going on. The truth is, a draw will not benefit Manchester United, and this may lead to their disqualification from the competition. This is a very poor performance from Manchester United. With the type of players they have, I didn’t expect them to struggle to win matches in the Europa competition.

There are 5 more matches or 6 more matches that can save Manchester United in the Europa League if they are really able to take advantage of it well. The problem is that it is very difficult to expect this team to play so well in all the remaining games, so its chances of qualifying are lower than ever. Hope is still there, but considering the team's very lackluster performance, I wouldn't expect much from them.

The next 5 matches for Manchester United in the Europa League should not be so difficult, but it all depends a lot on the performance of the players and the strategic approach of the coach. I no longer believe in Ten Hag, even if he always defended himself when Manchester United ended the match in disappointing fashion. This team needs major changes in the leadership structure, including the coach who should be replaced.

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Honestly, I don’t know what the problem is with Manchester United that their performances are so poor. If it’s the coach, I don’t understand why they still keep him. I expected that Erik ten Hag should have been sacked because there has been no improvement in the team recently. No competition seems easy for Manchester United now.if Manchester United continues in this form, this season could be one of their worst. I wouldn’t be surprised if, with this performance, they fail to qualify for any European competition next season.

If Manchester United held a poll on the job satisfaction of coaches and what they should do, then the average would probably say Ten Hag is completely unsatisfactory and he should be sacked.

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AS Roma are not is a good form this season, we all know that, even the game that there were able to win today if not for that opportunity of that penalty in the first half I don’t think they will be able to achieve this 3 points that they got today. It not funny anymore, they have to focus on there performance because there don’t still have any direction on changing it or putting more effort in their performance both in Serie A and Europa league because there are left far more behind. If they will force more I think they will be able to even do something tangible these season or they will just end up like last season or even more poorer in performance. So they have to act fast.

Dynamo Kyiv was not a strong opponent. Even then, I could not be satisfied with the performance of Roma's players. Roma should have performed better. Despite having 61% ball possession, Roma could not score any more goals. The only goal of the match was scored from the penalty spot. Had the goal not been scored from the penalty, the match would have been a goalless draw.

Roma's performance this season is even weaker than last season. The team scored only 8 goals in 8 Serie A matches. I wouldn't say that Roma's attack is weak. Roma players have the ability to score a lot of goals if the coach can use the players in his squad properly. Both Artem Dovbyk and Dybala are excellent players. Dovyk scored 24 goals in La Liga last season. But Dovbyk's performance with Roma is not as good as expected.

As Roma need to focus more if not it will not be funny anymore for them. Just take an example that you mentioned about Dovyk, last season his performance was very amazing, but just take a look on how his career is been wasted in Roma, the coach need to know that best approach to change the narration of the team if not we might start seeing the teams that are not even up to there standard winning them in a game, although we are not praying for that to happen. But just take a look at the game yesterday, it remain a bit if not they will end up going on a draw with a team like Dynamo Kiev.

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Quote from: bering on October 25, 2024, 05:13:26 AM

Ten Hag has been received a lot of criticism because he was attempts to playing Mazraoui as attacking midfielder this because Mazraoui real position is wingback and recently Ten Hag has been give his statement about this because he said Mazraoui has good ability to playing attacking so that's why Ten Hag trying to playing Mazraoui as a midfielder and this experiment is really messed up because Manchester United performing poorly

I think Manchester United is lucky because they didn't lost from Fenerbahce and do not forget too about Onana because he did double saves in this match and Manchester United can avoid defeat however you must be remember that this season is not the first time for Ten Hag did an experiment because at the beginning of season Ten Hag has attempts to playing Bruno Fernandes as a striker and this experiment too didn't rull well

Erik Ten Hag may insist that Mazaoui could play there, but at the same time he has to see how that doesn't work at all. But I can give him this game, Bruno Fernandes wasn't playing and booked, so I think they didn't really had plenty of options to play there anyway, so giving him a chance for this game only could make sense.

Normally Bruno plays there and he could be their best player, I believe in him and Bruno could be the only player from the old United era where they were at least a bit better. This is why I believe we are going to see what they can do with Mazroui only when Bruno is not playing, which is understandable and could happen. What we need to focus on right now however is all the other positions, look at left back, they haven't had a left back in years. They are missing the whole point of building a team, and just putting more players on same positions and then making one of them play out of position which makes no sense.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 25, 2024, 01:48:34 PM

Honestly, I don’t know what the problem is with Manchester United that their performances are so poor. If it’s the coach, I don’t understand why they still keep him. I expected that Erik ten Hag should have been sacked because there has been no improvement in the team recently. No competition seems easy for Manchester United now.if Manchester United continues in this form, this season could be one of their worst. I wouldn’t be surprised if, with this performance, they fail to qualify for any European competition next season.

I think it's the coach as he's the one making the players to feel comfortable with the way they're playing. Did you see his after match interview when he was praising the players for not giving up and not losing in 3 matches after being down. He thinks it's a good thing but what he doesn't know is that, many individuals watching the game are seeing how poor Manchester united are playing and there's not going to be any change until the coach is sacked. He has a very poor mindset as how can a big club like Manchester United be settling for draws after draws against teams that they should be winning. The players don't even have a mindset of winning anymore.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 25, 2024, 01:48:34 PM

I don’t even know if Manchester United will be able to win any game as this competition is going on. The truth is, a draw will not benefit Manchester United, and this may lead to their disqualification from the competition. This is a very poor performance from Manchester United. With the type of players they have, I didn’t expect them to struggle to win matches in the Europa competition.

It’s surprising the way Manchester United have been performing poorly. Three matches have been played, and Manchester United have been able to get just three points from the three matches that they have played. They have been able to get a draw from the three matches that they have played, which is really embarrassing. Manchester United are struggling to get even a draw from the matches that they are supposed to win conveniently. Manchester United are having quality players. It's just surprising why they are just struggling, they are playing against clubs that they are not supposed to find difficult to win.

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 25, 2024, 01:48:34 PM

Honestly, I don’t know what the problem is with Manchester United that their performances are so poor. If it’s the coach, I don’t understand why they still keep him. I expected that Erik ten Hag should have been sacked because there has been no improvement in the team recently.

Manchester United performance has been poor since last season, and it continues this season. Lots of people requested for Ten Hag's sack last season, but maybe because of the FA Cup won by Manchester United last season, that’s the reason why they decided to keep him. But we are now in another season, and Manchester United performance is getting worse, and the management is not just ready to let Ten Hag go, maybe they are still trying to give him more time.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on October 25, 2024, 01:48:34 PM

I don’t even know if Manchester United will be able to win any game as this competition is going on. The truth is, a draw will not benefit Manchester United, and this may lead to their disqualification from the competition. This is a very poor performance from Manchester United. With the type of players they have, I didn’t expect them to struggle to win matches in the Europa competition.

Honestly, I don’t know what the problem is with Manchester United that their performances are so poor. If it’s the coach, I don’t understand why they still keep him. I expected that Erik ten Hag should have been sacked because there has been no improvement in the team recently. No competition seems easy for Manchester United now.if Manchester United continues in this form, this season could be one of their worst. I wouldn’t be surprised if, with this performance, they fail to qualify for any European competition next season.

Previously, many predicted that Man United would fall when visiting Fenerbahce's headquarters, it is natural because of the inconsistency of the Manchester United squad that made many of us doubt it. I said both teams have the same chance, but the match has the potential to be a draw. The result is 1 point for Fenerbahce, 1 point for Manchester United. If United's poor performance is due to the wrong coach, then United seems to be in the process of finding an ideal replacement. But if it's a player, then there must be something that is overhauled from the problems that occur in their team. I can't say whether Man United is focused on the Europa League, or they are focused on fixing the team in their Domestic League. The 3 matches they played in this competition ended in a draw, so are they still targeting to qualify for the next phase, Or, their focus is shifted to improving their bond in the Premier League. However, a draw will not satisfy many parties and maybe for The Red Devil fans. Well, there are still many matches they have to go through and the important point is to improve their performance in the Premier League. If it is indeed difficult to improve United's performance, then perhaps the final decision will be to replace Ten Hag.

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