⚽ UEFA Nations League final four ⚽ - page 8.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 17, 2023, 02:56:46 PM

Netherlands vs Italy and Croatia vs Spain.
These are the two matches that will be played today and tomorrow.
Here the Netherlands vs Italy is in a very advantageous position for the Netherlands because they will be playing at home.
Although Italy is also a strong team, it looks like the Netherlands can take advantage of playing at home to beat Italy.

I put a little money aside to bet on this match.

I don't agree about Spain, but the choice of the Netherlands looks very attractive - Italy was aimed at gold, now they have lost motivation + they have one day less rest. In turn, the Netherlands is a young hungry team and they will fight 100% even for third place. If I take risks tomorrow by betting on Croatia, I will probably add the Netherlands as well.

What makes you disagree with Spain?
I see that Spain is actually a team that is quite strong and good and they cannot even be underestimated so that when compared to Croasia I still have hope for Spain to win.
Spain and the Netherlands are my favorite clup in this bet and for Italy they will have difficulties if they want to win the match against the Netherlands later.

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Everything looks under control for Italy because they can lead 2-0 in the first half but Netherlands hasn't give up yet and they were attempts to equalized and Bergwijn has been scored goal but apparantly Chiesa has make Italy leading again with current scores 3-1 and he was came as substitution player but it took only 9 minutes for Chiesa to scored goal and i think this goal has killing the game and most likely Italy will be the winner of this match and gets 3rd place

Other match will be interesting because if we see from head to head statistics between Croatia vs Spain there always be a lot of goals happened and Croatia is slightly better from recent performance but probably both teams will displayed attacking style this time although i have seen Spain is the favourite but i don't think Croatia will be easily to beat and for betting option i would like to thinking bet for over 2.5 goals because just like i said before both teams will playing with attacking style

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on June 18, 2023, 09:47:58 AM

The Italian national team are just making sure they don't make any mistake they did against Spain. I'm not surprised at what I'm seeing with the way Netherland are playing poorly in today's game, going by 2 goals down in the first half and I don't see the Italian team backing down on their lead. If they {Italy} create more chances I think they can extend their lead, with Immobile on the bench I feel it will be very hard for Netherland when he {immobile} is been introduced.

Netherlands will face with a concrete defense from Italy in the second half and I really don't think they will be able to break Italy defense. In the second half, Italy can send some main players in and even can make the goal difference bigger. They have many star players on bench, Pellegrini, Zaniolo, Immobile, Barella.

Quote from: hahay on June 18, 2023, 09:43:29 AM

2-0 down since the 20th minute, I think it will be a tough task for the Netherlands to be able to turn things around. Even though the Netherlands can master ball possession but still, this cannot be a guarantee for the Netherlands to be able to score lots of goals. Because after all, if Italy has a good and disciplined defense then of course, Italy will be able to maintain the victory that has been obtained at this time. Therefore, I personally am very confident that Italy will manage to win this match, and become the third winner in this tournament.

Netherlands played like Barcelona with too many slow speed passes and they played like they have 2 or 3 leading goals ahead Italy. In reality they got two conceded goals but did not try to increase their intensity.

Italy with their traditional defense and with many players from Inter Milan, will be able to block such attacks from Netherlands. Except if Netherlands increases their intensity in the second half, they will not have chance to equalize the match and beat Italy. It is shameful for Netherlands as Italy debut this match with their second squad, not with their best squad.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 18, 2023, 07:58:23 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on June 18, 2023, 05:34:34 AM

On paper Spain seems to be the favorite, but Croatia is just as much a favorite in my eyes.Croatia defeated the Netherlands 4-2 and we are talking about a team that came 3rd in the world cup.Croatia will at least want to succeed here and lift the trophy and I think they are ready to give their all as a team.They will play their hearts out for the sake of injury.Spain is of course a strong team, but I think Croatia will push them very hard.

Croatia has never been among the favorites at any major competition, and in recent years it has won a medal almost every time.
At the last 2 world championships and in this edition of the League of Nations, we beat well-known and strong national teams such as England, Brazil, Argentina or France, for example.
It can be said that Croatia does not care who they play against and who is the favorite in the bookmakers, Croatia always plays at the highest level and loses important matches very hard.
Spain has changed the team and currently has a lot of young players without experience playing in major competitions. Croatia is a more experienced team and I think this is a detail that could decide the winner.
In any case, we are expecting an uncertain and exciting match with probable extra time and maybe we will see penalties.

Even though they are not the favorite, we can say that they have achieved good things.They have defeated really strong teams in the world cup and they have very successful and experienced players.Since they managed to beat the Netherlands, which was shown as a heavy favorite in the Netherlands match, I can say that it doesn't matter for me who is shown as the favorite anymore.
As you said, Spain consists of a young squad, so they have a high margin for error.In terms of experience, we can say that they are a team with less experience than Croatia.We can see that Croatia is one step ahead in this aspect because they tend to make mistakes in such final matches.I would love to see possible extra time and penalties, let's see, I will be curiously waiting for the match time.

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The Italian national team are just making sure they don't make any mistake they did against Spain. I'm not surprised at what I'm seeing with the way Netherland are playing poorly in today's game, going by 2 goals down in the first half and I don't see the Italian team backing down on their lead. If they {Italy} create more chances I think they can extend their lead, with Immobile on the bench I feel it will be very hard for Netherland when he {immobile} is been introduced.
Where did the Netherland go wrong? They're the favorite in this game, judging by the odds, is in their favor but football these days can't be predicted by the odds we see, the form of a team can even play a better roll in selecting the winner of a game. With how poorly the Netherland have been I think this game is going to be another loss for them, Italy are going to hold on to their lead till FT.

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Quote from: 3meek on June 18, 2023, 09:24:44 AM

I knew Italy would want to work on their mistakes after losing to Spain and show some real Italian football against the Netherlands... They scored 2 goals in the first 20 minutes... Of course this is not the end of the game and anything can happen, but my bet on Italy scoring and not losing is likely to win... I wonder if the Netherlands will be able to get back into the game after missing two early in the match...

2-0 down since the 20th minute, I think it will be a tough task for the Netherlands to be able to turn things around. Even though the Netherlands can master ball possession but still, this cannot be a guarantee for the Netherlands to be able to score lots of goals. Because after all, if Italy has a good and disciplined defense then of course, Italy will be able to maintain the victory that has been obtained at this time. Therefore, I personally am very confident that Italy will manage to win this match, and become the third winner in this tournament.

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I knew Italy would want to work on their mistakes after losing to Spain and show some real Italian football against the Netherlands... They scored 2 goals in the first 20 minutes... Of course this is not the end of the game and anything can happen, but my bet on Italy scoring and not losing is likely to win... I wonder if the Netherlands will be able to get back into the game after missing two early in the match...

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 18, 2023, 05:34:34 AM

On paper Spain seems to be the favorite, but Croatia is just as much a favorite in my eyes.Croatia defeated the Netherlands 4-2 and we are talking about a team that came 3rd in the world cup.Croatia will at least want to succeed here and lift the trophy and I think they are ready to give their all as a team.They will play their hearts out for the sake of injury.Spain is of course a strong team, but I think Croatia will push them very hard.

Croatia has never been among the favorites at any major competition, and in recent years it has won a medal almost every time.
At the last 2 world championships and in this edition of the League of Nations, we beat well-known and strong national teams such as England, Brazil, Argentina or France, for example.
It can be said that Croatia does not care who they play against and who is the favorite in the bookmakers, Croatia always plays at the highest level and loses important matches very hard.
Spain has changed the team and currently has a lot of young players without experience playing in major competitions. Croatia is a more experienced team and I think this is a detail that could decide the winner.
In any case, we are expecting an uncertain and exciting match with probable extra time and maybe we will see penalties.

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Quote from: Lucius on June 18, 2023, 06:34:49 AM

The match between Croatia and Spain will certainly be special for Croatia for several reasons. The first is, of course, the great desire to win gold after success at the last two world championships, and the second is that this may be Luka Modric's last game for the national team.

I think this is the perfect time to win and celebrate the Modric's generation, they deserve this championship, not only this time, but like you said, after a 2nd and a 3rd place in World Cup, it's time to become a champion

Quote from: Lucius on June 18, 2023, 06:34:49 AM

In this regard, it should be mentioned that there will be around 25 000 Croatian fans in the stadium and that they will create a great atmosphere, and that a special moment will be in the 10th minute of the match when all the Croatian fans will sing a verse of a popular Croatian song that will be dedicated to Luka Modric. The goal, of course, is to try to convince Luka to stay playing for the Croatian national team even after the League of Nations final.

I didn't know that, I hope they can convince him to stay until Euro 2024

Quote from: Lucius on June 18, 2023, 06:34:49 AM

As for betting, I will again recommend the option of both teams scoring a goal with three or more goals in a match that has odds of around 2,4. For those who don't remember the last European Championship, these two teams played a great game that ended 3-3 in regular time, and there is no reason why it shouldn't be a game with a lot of goals today.

I think I'll do this one:

2.49 to Croatia winning the championship
I hope you're right, a match with lots of goals is always nice to watch Cool

Talking a bit about the game, I am sure it will be an even more difficult match than against Netherlands.
According to the odds, Croatia has a 26% chance of winning, 28% of a draw, and Spain has a 46% chance.
My sincere opinion is that each team has equal chances to be champion, without favorites, for me it would be 33% chances for each result.

Talking about the match between Netherlands and Italy, I'm going against the odds as well, I think Italy has a good chance to take 3rd place.

Both matches are super balanced, it will be great to watch.

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The match between Croatia and Spain will certainly be special for Croatia for several reasons. The first is, of course, the great desire to win gold after success at the last two world championships, and the second is that this may be Luka Modric's last game for the national team.

In this regard, it should be mentioned that there will be around 25 000 Croatian fans in the stadium and that they will create a great atmosphere, and that a special moment will be in the 10th minute of the match when all the Croatian fans will sing a verse of a popular Croatian song that will be dedicated to Luka Modric. The goal, of course, is to try to convince Luka to stay playing for the Croatian national team even after the League of Nations final.

As for betting, I will again recommend the option of both teams scoring a goal with three or more goals in a match that has odds of around 2,4. For those who don't remember the last European Championship, these two teams played a great game that ended 3-3 in regular time, and there is no reason why it shouldn't be a game with a lot of goals today.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on June 18, 2023, 06:15:26 AM

In today's final match, my favorite is Spain by a small margin. Looking at the semi-finals of the Nations League, I saw Croatia better, but the opponents they played were different. Croatia played with a relatively easy team like the Netherlands. But Spain played with a strong giant like Italy. Therefore, semi-finals cannot be a measure by itself.

Portugal and France were previously champions in the Nations League. Now it's Spain's turn. Europe's biggest winners take turns. I'm sure Germany and Italy will also be champions in the coming years.

Croatia is always at the top places in tournaments like this, but they can't win. I think they will suffer a similar fate again. They are losing their golden generation. I'm not sure if they can achieve similar success with new players.

It is going to be an interesting final Croatia vs Spain,Spain did not do well in the last World Cup but they got and beat Italy and are coming to the final tonight to me as slight favorites.I say slight favorites because Croatia has been so many times in a final recently and they have never managed to win any of it so for them tonight it is going to be a special game,it would be even more special if we take into consideration the age of the senior players which most likely won't be able to play in any major tournament again and as such they will try as hard as they can to win this Nations League this season.

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In today's final match, my favorite is Spain by a small margin. Looking at the semi-finals of the Nations League, I saw Croatia better, but the opponents they played were different. Croatia played with a relatively easy team like the Netherlands. But Spain played with a strong giant like Italy. Therefore, semi-finals cannot be a measure by itself.

Portugal and France were previously champions in the Nations League. Now it's Spain's turn. Europe's biggest winners take turns. I'm sure Germany and Italy will also be champions in the coming years.

Croatia is always at the top places in tournaments like this, but they can't win. I think they will suffer a similar fate again. They are losing their golden generation. I'm not sure if they can achieve similar success with new players.

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On paper Spain seems to be the favorite, but Croatia is just as much a favorite in my eyes.Croatia defeated the Netherlands 4-2 and we are talking about a team that came 3rd in the world cup.Croatia will at least want to succeed here and lift the trophy and I think they are ready to give their all as a team.They will play their hearts out for the sake of injury.Spain is of course a strong team, but I think Croatia will push them very hard.

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Quote from: Doell on June 17, 2023, 03:15:39 PM

Let me guess which club will win between the Netherlands vs Italy, to be honest my guess is Netherlands will secure the third-place spot rather than Italy, although on paper Italy is ahead when against Netherlands. I mean the Netherlands is winless in their last 7 matches against Italy, it's proven that Italy is ahead at there, but this match will be played at De Grolsch Veste, so at home there is still a chance for the Netherlands to win this match. But somehow I'm doubt to bet on Netherlands, I personally would probably choose both teams to score, because the odds are not too bad currently @1.62.

It's true that Italy is quite ahead of the Netherlands and I think Italy can still achieve the expectation of reaching that third place. Regarding the predictions for the match between these two countries, I think it is quite difficult to determine the result, but what is clear is that the two of them will not remain silent and will definitely score goals with each other. Your bet choice is very correct and there is no doubt that later it is possible that the match will end 2-1 regardless of who will win it. I think it's time for the Netherlands or Italy to prove that in next year's competition both of them will become one of the next nations league champions.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 17, 2023, 04:23:36 PM

Spain had better focus on finishing the match without extra time or penalty shoot-outs. Because Croatia are really great in those times. However there is an interesting information about a head-to-head between these teams in Euro 2020. Spain defeated them 5-3 by scoring 2 goals in extra time. Would we have a similar scenario here maybe? We will see.

I think it' not going to be an easy game for Spain by any means because aside from being a team going through a new transition phase, the Croatia squad in my opinion on an average are more experienced than the Spanish, while the Spanish team might have more talents overall, but this a kind of match were experience might be of significant importance.

There are no penalties specialist and regardless of the odds, penalties is a game of luck and it's always 50/50 game imo, and it doesn't matter if world all stars is playing against a 2nd tier team of a league in Gibraltar, it's going to be anybody's games.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 17, 2023, 04:23:36 PM

First of all none of the finalists has won the Nations League title yet. So it must be another factor that makes both teams hungry for the title now. The odd gap for the win isn't very close actually but I'm not surprised with seeing Spain having an odd like 2.04. Because Croatia are still not an easy opponent for them at all. We have already seen how capable they are from their match against Netherlands.

Spain had better focus on finishing the match without extra time or penalty shoot-outs. Because Croatia are really great in those times. However there is an interesting information about a head-to-head between these teams in Euro 2020. Spain defeated them 5-3 by scoring 2 goals in extra time. Would we have a similar scenario here maybe? We will see.

The final between Spain and Croatia is about to start but I have managed to collect some history of these two teams. I have seen Croatia and Spain face each other (H2H) since 2016 (Euro Cup - UEFA Cup) between these two games (Korea won twice, Spain won once and drew once). This final game will be a tough battle between the two teams as the two teams are the stronger from here with Spain winning once but winning by a wide margin. So assuming I want to back the draw, everyone is hungry and desperate to win this cup. So we will definitely watch this game and understand the situation.

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First of all none of the finalists has won the Nations League title yet. So it must be another factor that makes both teams hungry for the title now. The odd gap for the win isn't very close actually but I'm not surprised with seeing Spain having an odd like 2.04. Because Croatia are still not an easy opponent for them at all. We have already seen how capable they are from their match against Netherlands.

Spain had better focus on finishing the match without extra time or penalty shoot-outs. Because Croatia are really great in those times. However there is an interesting information about a head-to-head between these teams in Euro 2020. Spain defeated them 5-3 by scoring 2 goals in extra time. Would we have a similar scenario here maybe? We will see.

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Quote from: Doell on June 17, 2023, 03:15:39 PM

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But somehow I'm doubt to bet on Netherlands, I personally would probably choose both teams to score, because the odds are not too bad currently @1.62.

I have a hunch that the Netherlands might secure the third-place spot, despite Italy having the upper hand on paper and I agree the home advantage might give the Netherlands a chance to come out on top. Although, Italy put up a strong performance against Spain, it's worth considering their recent form and how well they performed. I agree with your prediction of both teams scoring, and I might even consider placing that bet myself. Good luck if you decide to go ahead with it!

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Quote from: decodx on June 17, 2023, 01:06:45 PM

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Because Italy lost by Spain, and so Italy will return to play against the Netherlands in the next few hours to fight for third place. Of course, with such a close schedule it is difficult for Italy to be able to maximize the potential of its players. So yes, playing against the Netherlands is a difficult job for Italy, after previously under pressure from Spain and then Italy under pressure that was equally difficult against Netherlands and made me doubt Italy at this moment.

Yeah. While many are focused on the outcome of the final match, we should also pay attention to the match for third place between Italy and the Netherlands. Both teams have a rich history in football and have been struggling in recent years. Italy, once one of the most feared teams in international football, has failed to qualify for the World Cup 2018, and again in 2022. A four-time winner of the tournament and Euro 2020 champions! The Netherlands has been on a gradual decline in their performance ever since clinching the bronze medal at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, although they did manage to make it to the final of the Nations League in 2019, only to be defeated by the host country, Portugal.

What are your predictions, folks? Which of these two teams do you think will secure the third-place spot?

By the way, unless I'm mistaken, the match is scheduled to take place tomorrow at 15:00 CET, not in a few hours as you mentioned.

Let me guess which club will win between the Netherlands vs Italy, to be honest my guess is Netherlands will secure the third-place spot rather than Italy, although on paper Italy is ahead when against Netherlands. I mean the Netherlands is winless in their last 7 matches against Italy, it's proven that Italy is ahead at there, but this match will be played at De Grolsch Veste, so at home there is still a chance for the Netherlands to win this match. But somehow I'm doubt to bet on Netherlands, I personally would probably choose both teams to score, because the odds are not too bad currently @1.62.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 17, 2023, 02:56:46 PM

Netherlands vs Italy and Croatia vs Spain.
These are the two matches that will be played today and tomorrow.
Here the Netherlands vs Italy is in a very advantageous position for the Netherlands because they will be playing at home.
Although Italy is also a strong team, it looks like the Netherlands can take advantage of playing at home to beat Italy.

I put a little money aside to bet on this match.

I don't agree about Spain, but the choice of the Netherlands looks very attractive - Italy was aimed at gold, now they have lost motivation + they have one day less rest. In turn, the Netherlands is a young hungry team and they will fight 100% even for third place. If I take risks tomorrow by betting on Croatia, I will probably add the Netherlands as well.

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