UFC 220: Miocic vs Ngannou Info and Prediction Thread

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For all you Ngannou fans out there, watch this. Lol.

I found this hilarious vid about Miocic's opponents' comments before and after their bouts with the HW champ. Watch the Overeem part... And the Ngannou part. Lmao!

Enjoy. Grin

Stipe Miocic Opponents Before and After Fights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWDxjJdbDV0

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 27, 2018, 12:25:39 AM

@eaLiTy. Stipe versus Daniel Cormier was already announced by the UFC yesterday hehehe. The fight will be for UFC 226 coming on July 2018.

I reckon that Dana White is trying to create one of the biggest fight cards in history. Some MMA news sites are already saying that Tyrone Woodley versus GSP and Demetrious Johnson versus T.J. Dillashaw are on as comain events.

That is incredible to be frank,Daniel Cormier was playing down the option of going up to heavy weight even though Dana White was willing to offer that super fight and all of a sudden it all changed.I think there are some heat going on in the AKA gym,Luke Rockhold moved his camp to Roufusport and with the recent tweet of Cain Velasquez,either way i hope if Cormier wins he will retire and vacate the belt ,GSP wont be back for at least a year as he is suffering from diverticulitis but it looks like we will be having Amanda Nunes Vs Cyborg ,imagine a card filled with super fights. Cheesy

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 27, 2018, 02:44:30 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on January 23, 2018, 10:26:37 AM

To be fair with @SaShiRaJaVu, that's how he calls the game, and most members who have replied here get it wrong as well.
They really thought that Ngannou will win the fight easily because he is a big puncher.

That's why we call it predictions, because we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. If you didn't get the winner, it doesn't mean that your prediction or any one's prediction sucks. I'm just sayin.

I made my bet on Miocic to win this fight,i am watching MMA for quite some time and Ngannou had a really good story which is compelling and he surely made the promotion exciting, in my opinion he defeated Overeem but what was his credential other than a faded Andrei Arlovski,no one,he never faced any top five heavyweights and that is not the case with Miocic and turn back to the first page ,to see what my prediction was. Wink

I think a smart bet my friend because all the attention was being heaped onto the African fighter however pure power and big punching can only take you so far.

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Quote from: btc_angela on January 23, 2018, 10:26:37 AM

To be fair with @SaShiRaJaVu, that's how he calls the game, and most members who have replied here get it wrong as well.
They really thought that Ngannou will win the fight easily because he is a big puncher.

That's why we call it predictions, because we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. If you didn't get the winner, it doesn't mean that your prediction or any one's prediction sucks. I'm just sayin.

I made my bet on Miocic to win this fight,i am watching MMA for quite some time and Ngannou had a really good story which is compelling and he surely made the promotion exciting, in my opinion he defeated Overeem but what was his credential other than a faded Andrei Arlovski,no one,he never faced any top five heavyweights and that is not the case with Miocic and turn back to the first page ,to see what my prediction was. Wink

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 24, 2018, 07:25:30 PM

Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 24, 2018, 11:20:33 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 23, 2018, 08:21:55 PM

Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

Both of their past fights ended in the 1st round. The sportsbook predicted the fight would end in under 1.5 rounds, when the gave their odds of -150 to -200, depending on the site. Everyone else expected it to end early, including the experts.

@thejaytiesto. But there was nothing defensive in Stipe's performance however.

Stipe drained Ngannou's energy after the 3rd round by using his weight mostly as Ngannou tried to get him off his back but he couldn't because his big muscles were completely depleted, then he just ended him with repeated short range punches as the guy couldn't even walk anymore.

Draining energy like that is a defensive approach, just like what casuals call "hugging" in boxing. If he wasn't defensive he would have gone for the KO but he was cautious.

I do not see it that way. It was Francis Ngannou who was on the defensive because he gave his back to Stipe. They were wrestling and not boxing. It was also Stipe who kept trying to take his opponent down, again an offensive move.

MMA and boxing are 2 different types of fighting.

Well it showed that there's still a lot to be done with ngannou if he wants to be ufc champion. Miocic showed how to effectively beat a hard puncher and i think it's not that difficult to see that he stuck to his gameplan all throughout the fight. Mma has evolved largely now and ngannou looked like a one dimension fighter. Once his strikes were taken away, it was evident that miocic had the fight.

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@eaLiTy. Stipe versus Daniel Cormier was already announced by the UFC yesterday hehehe. The fight will be for UFC 226 coming on July 2018.

I reckon that Dana White is trying to create one of the biggest fight cards in history. Some MMA news sites are already saying that Tyrone Woodley versus GSP and Demetrious Johnson versus T.J. Dillashaw are on as comain events.

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@bbc.reporter i called for Stipe to win the fight,the hype was really good but all the fighters Ngannou defeated ,Stipe did that too and Stipe is a golden glove boxing champion and Ngannou is all about power and he wont last that much in a boxing ring with that style ,but i never expected Ngannou to gas out in the first two minutes of the fight Cheesy

,next i would like to see him face Daniel Cormier or Cain Velasquez to establish himself as the greatest heavyweight of all time.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 24, 2018, 11:20:33 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 23, 2018, 08:21:55 PM

Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

Both of their past fights ended in the 1st round. The sportsbook predicted the fight would end in under 1.5 rounds, when the gave their odds of -150 to -200, depending on the site. Everyone else expected it to end early, including the experts.

@thejaytiesto. But there was nothing defensive in Stipe's performance however.

Stipe drained Ngannou's energy after the 3rd round by using his weight mostly as Ngannou tried to get him off his back but he couldn't because his big muscles were completely depleted, then he just ended him with repeated short range punches as the guy couldn't even walk anymore.

Draining energy like that is a defensive approach, just like what casuals call "hugging" in boxing. If he wasn't defensive he would have gone for the KO but he was cautious.

I do not see it that way. It was Francis Ngannou who was on the defensive because he gave his back to Stipe. They were wrestling and not boxing. It was also Stipe who kept trying to take his opponent down, again an offensive move.

MMA and boxing are 2 different types of fighting.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 24, 2018, 11:20:33 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 23, 2018, 08:21:55 PM

Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

Both of their past fights ended in the 1st round. The sportsbook predicted the fight would end in under 1.5 rounds, when the gave their odds of -150 to -200, depending on the site. Everyone else expected it to end early, including the experts.

@thejaytiesto. But there was nothing defensive in Stipe's performance however.

Stipe drained Ngannou's energy after the 3rd round by using his weight mostly as Ngannou tried to get him off his back but he couldn't because his big muscles were completely depleted, then he just ended him with repeated short range punches as the guy couldn't even walk anymore.

Draining energy like that is a defensive approach, just like what casuals call "hugging" in boxing. If he wasn't defensive he would have gone for the KO but he was cautious.

You're being generous to Ngannou. He was finished physically be the end of the first.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 23, 2018, 08:21:55 PM

Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

Both of their past fights ended in the 1st round. The sportsbook predicted the fight would end in under 1.5 rounds, when the gave their odds of -150 to -200, depending on the site. Everyone else expected it to end early, including the experts.

@thejaytiesto. But there was nothing defensive in Stipe's performance however.

Stipe drained Ngannou's energy after the 3rd round by using his weight mostly as Ngannou tried to get him off his back but he couldn't because his big muscles were completely depleted, then he just ended him with repeated short range punches as the guy couldn't even walk anymore.

Draining energy like that is a defensive approach, just like what casuals call "hugging" in boxing. If he wasn't defensive he would have gone for the KO but he was cautious.

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Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

Both of their past fights ended in the 1st round. The sportsbook predicted the fight would end in under 1.5 rounds, when the gave their odds of -150 to -200, depending on the site. Everyone else expected it to end early, including the experts.

@thejaytiesto. But there was nothing defensive in Stipe's performance however.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 22, 2018, 08:27:31 PM

Those fans must be the casuals who only want to see big knockouts and action. Stipe's performance was one of the best I have seen in MMA. It was an example of how a martial artist can defeat a stronger opponent by using good technique, skill and fight IQ.

Im a casual UFC fan as in I only watch the big title fights or fights in which I know who the guys are, but I am not a casual boxing fan so I know how the fight game works which means I understand why Miocic didn't want to do anything stupid. It's like when casual boxing fans trashed Mayweather in being "too defensive", as if being too defensive against world class boxers was easy and not an art in itself, and you don't win 50 fights with 0 loses by being "too defensive" only.

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Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

To be fair with @SaShiRaJaVu, that's how he calls the game, and most members who have replied here get it wrong as well.
They really thought that Ngannou will win the fight easily because he is a big puncher.

That's why we call it predictions, because we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. If you didn't get the winner, it doesn't mean that your prediction or any one's prediction sucks. I'm just sayin.

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Quote from: noobfromPH on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

Francis Ngannou underestimated Stipe, he really thought that he can bully anyone with his KO punch. Unfortunately, Stipe was really pumped up for this fight, because Dana and the management has somewhat "disrespect" him as champion. The Organization is building Francis Ngannou as the next big thing. But Stipe has other plans though. And the blue print to defeat a guy like Francis is not a secret. Ground and pound, ragdolled him. tire him and then tire him more. Grin

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2018, 08:23:39 PM

@SaShiRaJaVu. There will be no ground game in this fight because both fighters will be busy trying to knock out each other. Also, trying to change level and get a takedown would be taking a big risk for both because it would take a lot of energy considering their size and weight.

In any case, the fight will be over in under 1.5 rounds with Francis Ngannou's hands raised. This is the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

seriously? is that how you predict fights? we all know that Ngannou knockout overeem in their fight however miocic is different from overeem and a different fighter. miocic used different techniques in their last fight. Ngannou didn't realize that miocic used ground and pound to take points from him. the fight was very thrilling because either one of the fighter will be KO'd. that is a heavy weight match; everybody is expecting a KO. though the game is very entertaining, predictions sucks.

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Those fans must be the casuals who only want to see big knockouts and action. Stipe's performance was one of the best I have seen in MMA. It was an example of how a martial artist can defeat a stronger opponent by using good technique, skill and fight IQ.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on January 22, 2018, 12:30:48 PM

Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 22, 2018, 07:52:25 AM

Ngannou has no ground game.

...and Miocic took advantage of that and Ngannou admitted that he underestimated Miocic.
Looking at some comments in FB, some claims they are not entertained with the main event since after the 3rd round, all Miocic did was punch, hug and run repeat and there are times he (Miocic) can finish the fight but did not make a follow up and played safe. If I am in Miocics shoes, I would do the same, I don't care if fans will not be entertained, I am there to fight and make sure I walk home on my 2 feet and not on a stretcher.

Fuck those fans, those are just casuals, who didn't know about anything in the art of fighting.

Although Ngannou looks very tired and can be taken out anytime, he is still dangerous that's why Miocic was a little hesitant. He don't want to get hit by a "Hail Mary" and jeopardized the fight, its already in the bag for him.

Velasquez vs Miocic next, DC doesn't want to fight Miocic and campaign at HW because Cain will make a comeback.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on January 22, 2018, 07:52:25 AM

Ngannou has no ground game.

...and Miocic took advantage of that and Ngannou admitted that he underestimated Miocic.
Looking at some comments in FB, some claims they are not entertained with the main event since after the 3rd round, all Miocic did was punch, hug and run repeat and there are times he (Miocic) can finish the fight but did not make a follow up and played safe. If I am in Miocics shoes, I would do the same, I don't care if fans will not be entertained, I am there to fight and make sure I walk home on my 2 feet and not on a stretcher.

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I never doubted Cormier winning, he is a world class fighter, Olympian with several gold medals... it's another level. There's no point for him to keep fighting, Jon Jones was the only guy that could match him and he is out indefinitely because of the drug tests.

Ngannou has no ground game.

UFC 221 has no big stars that I can identify other than Mark Hunt, will not stay awake to watch it live, as a casual UFC fan I have no idea about these guys so will not bet anything.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on January 21, 2018, 11:18:40 AM

Last night I am itching to place a bet on Miocic when saw the odds and I should have done so. Miocic looks pissed at Dana White and grabbed the belt before Dana strapped the belt to Miocic's waist. UFC hyped up Ngannou and make him look like the next cash cow of UFC, but Ngannou's power is no match with the fight plan of Miocic.

When Dana White was interviewed by Fox Sport, Dana mentioned something about Ngannou going to France for a vacation and that 2 weeks prior to the fight. Who would go on a vacation 2 weeks before a main event. But Nganou is graceful at defeat and accepted what happened to him tonight.

There are 2 guys right now that is in line for the next match of Miocic, Cain Velasquez and Daniel Cormier. But UFC will ahve 2 problems to think of before that book either of the two. cain Velasquez has gone surgery after surgery and his body may not be able to deliver what is being expected for him to do. Daniel Cormier needs to step up as he is currently at Light Heavyweight.

Stipe felt he was disprespected by Dana White and the UFC. Did you see that he moved the Monster energy drink can away from him during his press conference? That was their sponsor and that should always be visible to the audience. Stipe wittingly moved the can away to show his aversion to the UFC as an organization, I reckon.

Also, Francis Ngannou has shown that he has more to learn about the game. I was so mistaken to think that he was the next great champion in the UFC.

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