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Topic: UFC 227: Dillashaw vs Garbrandt 2 Info and Prediction Thread (Read 456 times)

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Coach Justin Buchholz says that Cody lost has something to do with cardio issue:

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Dillashaw also mentioned how Garbrandt may need to fix some technical issues in his game, but according to Bucholz, it is also a conditioning problem.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/8/8/17663018/ufc-justin-buchholz-cody-garbrandt-loss-tj-dillashaw-ufc-227-cardio-issue-mma-news

I'm assuming that the doesn't get trained very well for the second fight, or his back is still nagging him. Gonna be interesting to see him switching camps and leaving Uriah Faber.
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^  So it's looking more like Dillashaw made the right decision by leaving Faber's team for a better one.  His two victories vindicates him.  I think the second match vindicates him even more cos I wouldn't really be that surprised if Garbrandt wasn't trained well to face Dillashaw.

Garbrandt should switch camps now...
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This is a good Cody vs TJ post fight breakdown by BJJ Scout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9mothnNP94

I didn't realize Justin Buccholz left Team Alpha Male early in 2018. That marks the 3rd head coach Team Alpha Male has lost in a relatively short span of time. Martin Kampmann, Duane Ludwig and now Justin Buccholz. The excuse Martin Kampmann used for quitting was his family didn't like california and he wanted to move elsewhere. Duane Ludwig leaving the team was highly publicized on the ultimate fighter season of Urijah Faber and Conor coaching and so that split was ugly. Justin Buccholz quitting as head coach seems to have swept under a rug and kept mostly quiet.

There have been hints dropped that Urijah Faber is the reason TAM head coaches have been quitting. And there have been hints dropped that Cody Garbrandt wasn't training properly (maybe because of Urijah Faber) leading up to this rematch.

That's another angle to the fight which could be worth looking at. Especially if Cody Garbrandt's skill level declines noticeably in his future fights.
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^  Could their history at Team Alpha Male be making Garbrandt more emotional than usual?  Dillashaw was Garbrandt's sparring partner, and there were times when Dillashaw would spar as if it was a real bout.  Lol.  There was a rumor that he hit Garbrandt so hard once during training and it KO'd him.  Cheesy

I think both of them had their own plans on how to beat each other's company. Garbrandt was a great fighter and I trusted how he performed so well with his career eversince he been lost from his previous bouts. The history was a part of his journey in UFC, let's start over and expect more surprising fights to come from them. Roll over the screen and let's await the excitement upon their fight will go further with their next fights.

The bad blood between Team Alpha Male and Dillashaw is really like a drama lol. I don't know what will happen to team alpha male, since their fighter can't win against Dillashwa. Garbrandt is a good fighter indeed but i think he can't control his anger and emotion, i think dillashwa know this very well and abuse it to win the fight vs garbrandt last week.

It was really a drama unfolding right in front on us. I don't know if its just stage or something but most of us bought it and like Cody being the bad guy here but it didn't went on his way. Dillashaw is not the only one who left Team Alpha, there are coach as well if I'm not mistaken. Same reasons, didn't agree on the direction or what's needed to be done. Let's bring Faber vs Dillashaw. hehehehhe.
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^  Could their history at Team Alpha Male be making Garbrandt more emotional than usual?  Dillashaw was Garbrandt's sparring partner, and there were times when Dillashaw would spar as if it was a real bout.  Lol.  There was a rumor that he hit Garbrandt so hard once during training and it KO'd him.  Cheesy

I think both of them had their own plans on how to beat each other's company. Garbrandt was a great fighter and I trusted how he performed so well with his career eversince he been lost from his previous bouts. The history was a part of his journey in UFC, let's start over and expect more surprising fights to come from them. Roll over the screen and let's await the excitement upon their fight will go further with their next fights.

The bad blood between Team Alpha Male and Dillashaw is really like a drama lol. I don't know what will happen to team alpha male, since their fighter can't win against Dillashwa. Garbrandt is a good fighter indeed but i think he can't control his anger and emotion, i think dillashwa know this very well and abuse it to win the fight vs garbrandt last week.
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^  Could their history at Team Alpha Male be making Garbrandt more emotional than usual?  Dillashaw was Garbrandt's sparring partner, and there were times when Dillashaw would spar as if it was a real bout.  Lol.  There was a rumor that he hit Garbrandt so hard once during training and it KO'd him.  Cheesy

I think both of them had their own plans on how to beat each other's company. Garbrandt was a great fighter and I trusted how he performed so well with his career eversince he been lost from his previous bouts. The history was a part of his journey in UFC, let's start over and expect more surprising fights to come from them. Roll over the screen and let's await the excitement upon their fight will go further with their next fights.
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^  Could their history at Team Alpha Male be making Garbrandt more emotional than usual?  Dillashaw was Garbrandt's sparring partner, and there were times when Dillashaw would spar as if it was a real bout.  Lol.  There was a rumor that he hit Garbrandt so hard once during training and it KO'd him.  Cheesy

Cody was very emotional and it really backfired on him. And perhaps TJ thinks that he is sparring with Cody that's why he is so relax in the Octagon. I think the rumor is that Cody KO TJ in a sparring and he even releases video of it prior to their first fight (its a TKO actually). LOL. But I guess what counts most is that TJ is 2 nil against Cody with a KO.
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^  Could their history at Team Alpha Male be making Garbrandt more emotional than usual?  Dillashaw was Garbrandt's sparring partner, and there were times when Dillashaw would spar as if it was a real bout.  Lol.  There was a rumor that he hit Garbrandt so hard once during training and it KO'd him.  Cheesy
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Wtf was that?  I was expecting more from Garbrandt.  He was just a sitting duck out there.  It was almost like he just gave up at the last minute and just went with it win or lose.  He wasn't really there...

He did exactly the same mistake as he did against Dillashaw on the first fight... you could tell his emotions got him carried away when he didn't touch gloves. He wasn't thinking straight. He failed to capitalize on the damage he did to Dillasaw with a couple of good shots.

Exactly, the minute the bell rings, he is thinking of getting his revenge and try to knock out TJ. Unfortunately, TJ got the better of him again and I'm sure that he can't get over with that lose. But he needs to move on and continue, because he is still young. And TJ just closes the chapter and the rivalry.

I can't believe this guy slapped around none other than Dominic Cruz, he did great there, but he is just unable to deal with TJ. There will be no rematch anymore after two losses, it must suck as a fighter to know that you can't have another shot at the guy that beat you twice. It's a long steep road now for Garbrandt if he wants to be a main card fighter again.

Yeah, I re-watched that fight and I'm shock how Cody was in full control of his emotions and not pushing the fight. He even show us that the can play defense, however, none of them was evident on his 2 fight with TJ. And agree, might be a long road for him to go  on top again, but we hope he does because he is young and this lost might be a good lessons for him. (don't be too cocky).
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Wtf was that?  I was expecting more from Garbrandt.  He was just a sitting duck out there.  It was almost like he just gave up at the last minute and just went with it win or lose.  He wasn't really there...

He did exactly the same mistake as he did against Dillashaw on the first fight... you could tell his emotions got him carried away when he didn't touch gloves. He wasn't thinking straight. He failed to capitalize on the damage he did to Dillasaw with a couple of good shots.

I can't believe this guy slapped around none other than Dominic Cruz, he did great there, but he is just unable to deal with TJ. There will be no rematch anymore after two losses, it must suck as a fighter to know that you can't have another shot at the guy that beat you twice. It's a long steep road now for Garbrandt if he wants to be a main card fighter again.

Oh he'll be having no problems getting in main cards.  He's young and he can still claw his way back up and go for the title again imo.  That's if he's willing to sacrifice a lot of time away from his new baby...  Having children could complicate things.
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Yup, It was later admitted that DJ has injured his leg that's why we didn't see any speed difference. Usually, DJ is very quick at his feet and was able to defend himself against takedown which Henry easily gets DJ at the floor, although we all know that Henry is a world class wrestler, but we can't disregard the injury as contributing factor for his lost.
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After the fight Demetrious Johnson said he might have broke his foot and torn a ligament in his leg during his fight with Henry Cejudo. That could be why he wasn't moving as much or as well as he normally does in his fights. Have to wait for confirmation on that.

Dominick Cruz had a medical issue with his feet when he fought Cody Garbrandt. I think he's getting surgery to fix that. Cruz has had that issue for a long time. He had it when he fought TJ Dillashaw which is why those leg kicks of TJ had so much of an effect. It was worse when Cruz fought Cody Garbrandt. If that helps put things into perspective.

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Wtf was that?  I was expecting more from Garbrandt.  He was just a sitting duck out there.  It was almost like he just gave up at the last minute and just went with it win or lose.  He wasn't really there...

He did exactly the same mistake as he did against Dillashaw on the first fight... you could tell his emotions got him carried away when he didn't touch gloves. He wasn't thinking straight. He failed to capitalize on the damage he did to Dillasaw with a couple of good shots.

I can't believe this guy slapped around none other than Dominic Cruz, he did great there, but he is just unable to deal with TJ. There will be no rematch anymore after two losses, it must suck as a fighter to know that you can't have another shot at the guy that beat you twice. It's a long steep road now for Garbrandt if he wants to be a main card fighter again.
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It was the take-down that won the fight for Cejudo. Demetrious was controlling the first half of the round then Henry would take him down and it might have won the rounds for him. It was really close up to the last minute, he even didn't damage Johnson, but his takedowns did won him the fight and the belt.

Cody has no game plan at all, he stood in front of Dillashaw and trying to look for the one big shot that never come.
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^  Could be.  But sh*t.  I wanna see Garbrandt vs Cruz now.  It could be one of a couple of things.  Either Garbrandt is overrated or, yeah, he's still with that back injury.  But it would be so irresponsible of him to train if he wasn't totally injury free.

Anyway, he's young.  He'll be back.
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Wtf was that?  I was expecting more from Garbrandt.  He was just a sitting duck out there.  It was almost like he just gave up at the last minute and just went with it win or lose.  He wasn't really there...

Might have been carrying an injury or something, very unlike him. He’s usually so full of energy & determination. 2-0 to Dillashaw now, their battles together are probably over.
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Wtf was that?  I was expecting more from Garbrandt.  He was just a sitting duck out there.  It was almost like he just gave up at the last minute and just went with it win or lose.  He wasn't really there...
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Does anyone remember how hard to hit Cody Garbrandt was when he fought Dominick Cruz? Seems like his defense is so much worse whenever he fights TJ Dillashaw. Almost like Cody doesn't respect TJ's power at all. That could have cost Cody the fight.

What do you guys think about Mighty Mouse losing by SD?

I thought Henry Cejudo won rounds 2, 4 and 5. If Cejudo could find a way to improve @ riding people, controlling them on the ground & preventing them from getting back up, I think he could beat Demetrious Johnson decisively.

Not certain what Demetrious Johnson's options are. Hopefully there won't be another immediate rematch. I think its better if Johnson has a couple of fights before he fights for the title again. If they fight again in 3 months without either of them improving or changing much, I think the outcome will be the same and it'll be pointless.
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Oh well, looks like Dillashaw was the better man this time. Fair enough, lost my money on this bet but at least I've found a good MMA gambling platform (bitcoinrush).

What do you guys think about Mighty Mouse losing by SD?
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