UFC 229: Khabib vs McGregor Prediction and Info Thread - page 5.

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Quote from: Thekool1s on October 09, 2018, 12:09:53 PM

People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

Khabib's not in it for the money eh? Ok, so he wouldn't give a rats ass if he won't be getting his purse from the NSAC? Grin

I pretty much doubt that. And it's exactly why he was saying he's sorry at the post fight press conference. He wants his money.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2018, 08:37:30 AM

Yes, its because his losing a lot of oxygen specially when Khabib was on top of him. Plus he was out of the cage for quite so these factors contributed that's why he hasn't see him testing what he calls glass chin of khabib.

Without fighting for years can really affect your stamina and that's what happen to Conor sadly. I still wanted a rematch. I hope that Mcgregor will consider the retirement that he said recently because I have also saw his twitter post that he wanted to have rematch. Khabib is indeed a tough opponent.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 09, 2018, 08:37:30 AM

Oh I wasn't aware that Conor McGregor will go on another hiatus. Perhaps he was devastated with the lost. Or probably he already has a lot of money so no need to get his body getting hurt as the division is really stack up.

He really have and aside from that unlike before after he gets the two division belt. He became more of a showman than a fighter.

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Quote from: Thekool1s on October 09, 2018, 12:09:53 PM

People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

What makes you think it's about the money for him? Why wouldn't he want another opportunity to beat him? Connor has a slim chance of actually winning against him unless he gets lucky. There's obviously some real bad blood between these two now, or at least for Khabib. McGregor just says things to be inflammatory to try get inside your head and it's a good tactic and often works because it can give you an advantage and can often make your opponent lose their cool, and that's what happened when Khabib did a Cantona and jumped into the audience. Apparently Conor's trainer was taunting him during and after the fight making racial and religious slurs so that's why he did what he did. I'd like to see a rematch because the badblood might make for a more explosive fight now and who else are those guys going to fight?

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 09, 2018, 09:26:23 AM

Everything panned out the way McGregor likes it even in defeat. Nevada's athletic commission is withholding Khabib's fight purse of 2M USD until everything is sorted out. He's prolly getting a fine of at least 250K USD and at least one year suspension imo. That's too long and the UFC would have to strip him of the belt...

I doubt he will get a 1-year suspension, that's the UFC's golden boy, they definitely won't let that go without a huge fight.

Conor McGregor is going to slip back into the mid-tiers of the UFC where he belongs IMO. I don't think he should get another shot at Khabib, and I don't think Khabib should get fined or even suspended for his actions. Sure, what he did was unacceptable, but it was nothing out of the ordinary as far as the UFC is concerned.

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In hindsight, Khabib should have tried to win the crowd by taking the moral high ground after his victory. He should have extended his hand to McGregor to help him get up then bowed on McGregor's feet as an act of showing respect and gratitude for giving him the honor of fighting him.

That would've raised Khabib's status in the UFC and in sports in general imho.

Khabib: 'Check mate b*tch!'. Grin

I agree with you , that lack of sportsmanship in a way took some shine away from his victory but all in all he did great and conor ought to back up and get back to wining ways because he looked way too far from his best. I think on a better day Khabib wouldn't stand a chance against Conor but hey! it happens!

I cant really blame Khabib even though trashtalking is just a normal thing before the fight but it did really touched the pride of Khabib and even on his team but that royale rumble shouldnt really happen.It do really shows out no respect to the opponent and into the sports itself. Khabib might have a good record but if people or UFC fans would have negative impressions on you then it would really be an awkward career for sure.

Everything panned out the way McGregor likes it even in defeat. Nevada's athletic commission is withholding Khabib's fight purse of 2M USD until everything is sorted out. He's prolly getting a fine of at least 250K USD and at least one year suspension imo. That's too long and the UFC would have to strip him of the belt...

It's Tony time b*tches! Grin

When it comes to fine then it would really be a piece of cake but talking on suspension then it would be an another story but overall this fight is just an another show. Grin

But sadly, Khabib didnt hold back his emotions and leave a messy trail.

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Quote from: justspare on October 08, 2018, 11:01:43 AM

I have seen everyone ridiculing connor for the fight because he was not capable of defending himself against a take down and everyone talking about where khabib is from and how he did not take the insults very well and he fought really hard while connor was just making a joke out of this whole thing.

However, people are forgetting that khabib was fighting and winning while connor was out drinking and probably doing harder drugs and didn't fought anyone worthy just an exhibition match against mayweather. Connor at his worst took beating for 4 rounds and still manage to see the light at the end of the tunnel until one bad move.

If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Conor's stand up game is strong, but Khabib still dominated him on his feet, after he had trained in boxing for months to fight Mayweather.... There is no excuses for Conor getting dominated on his feet.

Either way, Conor doesn't deserve a rematch, he got completely mauled as Joe Rogan says, nothing about that match indicated that a rematch would go any differently. Conor will get mauled a second time, and that big mouth will never utter a word again.

Well, you don't know dana white. He can make a rematch Khabib vs mcgregor easily haha, but i'm agree with you, i think McGregor doesn't deserve a rematch. I'm a mcgregor fan and the result vs khabib is not good. I don't know, maybe he will start again from the bottom.

I don't think Dana White can force people to rematch really, I think sure Dana White wants to make the money fights, but if Khabib doesn't think he deserves it then he won't take the fight. Khabib straight up whooped Conor's ass, until Conor steps his game up and has a few comeback fights, he simply doesn't deserve a rematch. Everybody will know they're only doing it for the money, and when they do rematch (if), he'll get completely smashed again. Khabib was leagues above, I doubt Conor will close that gap.

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People are too optimistic for a rematch. It won't happen, mark my words. Khabib isn't about the 'money' and after what happened I doubt he will cross paths with Gregor again in his career. Things 'actually' got bad between them. This 'tension' wasn't fake for promotion. You can feel it in khabib's eyes when McChicken was talking shit.

@justspare Lol, I kinda agree but people lose interest in things overnight. I doubt "Muslims" will watch the fight if there is a rematch.

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If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Unfortunately he won't have a chance to prove it because there will be no rematch after what Khabib and his mates did.

If you honestly think that there will be no rematch because khabib attacked someone then you are delusional.

Conor literally attacked khabibs bus with something (I forgot was it a rod or something) and injured fighters along the way and got real criminal charges against him and yet they still had a fight, in a true environment conor should have been banned from fighting ever again yet he did get to fight khabib.

Now khabib does something silly that no one should do and there won't be a rematch ? I think the rematch will be even closer than we all think while the wound is fresh. It would definitely create a big pay per view now that Muslim people are even more attached to khabib as well. Dana got Irish first, he already had Americans, now he got Muslims, which means he will make ton of money from this.

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Quote from: izanagi narukami on October 09, 2018, 08:47:30 AM

After seeing the pre and post past , Khabib deserve to be win.
McGregor gimmick surely want to disturb Khabib's emotion but luckily he able to overcome it.
Unfortunately Khabib can't control his emotion until the last of the match so IMO, Gregor's gimmick + Gregor's fans mocking successfully disturb Khabib's anger !

We won't really know if it's planned or not but seeing that what happened in the octagon and outside it is devastating, it's a matter of time that Khabib burst his anger out. Towards the people that are really trash-talking to him. According to the Nevada commission regards to them, they received a 10-day suspension which is not that bad.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on October 08, 2018, 08:25:16 AM

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 08, 2018, 07:14:03 AM

In hindsight, Khabib should have tried to win the crowd by taking the moral high ground after his victory. He should have extended his hand to McGregor to help him get up then bowed on McGregor's feet as an act of showing respect and gratitude for giving him the honor of fighting him.

That would've raised Khabib's status in the UFC and in sports in general imho.

Khabib: 'Check mate b*tch!'. Grin

I agree with you , that lack of sportsmanship in a way took some shine away from his victory but all in all he did great and conor ought to back up and get back to wining ways because he looked way too far from his best. I think on a better day Khabib wouldn't stand a chance against Conor but hey! it happens!

I cant really blame Khabib even though trashtalking is just a normal thing before the fight but it did really touched the pride of Khabib and even on his team but that royale rumble shouldnt really happen.It do really shows out no respect to the opponent and into the sports itself. Khabib might have a good record but if people or UFC fans would have negative impressions on you then it would really be an awkward career for sure.

Everything panned out the way McGregor likes it even in defeat. Nevada's athletic commission is withholding Khabib's fight purse of 2M USD until everything is sorted out. He's prolly getting a fine of at least 250K USD and at least one year suspension imo. That's too long and the UFC would have to strip him of the belt...

It's Tony time b*tches! Grin

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After seeing the pre and post past , Khabib deserve to be win.
McGregor gimmick surely want to disturb Khabib's emotion but luckily he able to overcome it.
Unfortunately Khabib can't control his emotion until the last of the match so IMO, Gregor's gimmick + Gregor's fans mocking successfully disturb Khabib's anger !

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Quote from: darklus123 on October 09, 2018, 02:57:38 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on October 08, 2018, 01:43:38 AM

I think we all know that Conor was somewhat have a questionable issue with this stamina. He usually gases out after round 2. I think the punching power was still their, but his timing is very off because he wasn't able to hit Khabib solidly.

I don't think so the power punching power for me seems really goes down within this fight. I am not sure tho if that is really because of mcgregor but maybe it is also because Khabib is kinda tougher opponent.

Yes, its because his losing a lot of oxygen specially when Khabib was on top of him. Plus he was out of the cage for quite so these factors contributed that's why he hasn't see him testing what he calls glass chin of khabib.

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It was really a bad match up to McGregor. We all know that the moment he gets Conor to the ground, there's little chance that he can get up because of Khabib's ability to smash or choke you up on the ground. Which we really see in the fight.

The pressure power that khabib have shown us is really his strength and he was able to use it for his favor.

Sad to say I saw an interview with mcgregor and it seems that he is retiring.

Oh I wasn't aware that Conor McGregor will go on another hiatus. Perhaps he was devastated with the lost. Or probably he already has a lot of money so no need to get his body getting hurt as the division is really stack up.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on October 09, 2018, 02:19:42 AM

With the way Dana thinks, rematch is very much possible. The hype is there but listening to Khabibs post fight interview, he doesn't like hype. Just like what McGregor did. You know how the mouth of McGregor works to hype up a fight and Khabib doesnt like it, he took it personally thats why UFC 229 ended in a brawl.

Khabib took it personally because McGregor went to far. He play the race card, insults his father and his religion. If his still under contract with Dana then he can't do anything, but I would like him to fight Tony Ferguson first because I think its another awesome fight to prove who's the best before going on McGregor again.

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Quote from: Kemarit on October 08, 2018, 01:43:38 AM

I think we all know that Conor was somewhat have a questionable issue with this stamina. He usually gases out after round 2. I think the punching power was still their, but his timing is very off because he wasn't able to hit Khabib solidly.

I don't think so the power punching power for me seems really goes down within this fight. I am not sure tho if that is really because of mcgregor but maybe it is also because Khabib is kinda tougher opponent.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 08, 2018, 01:43:38 AM

It was really a bad match up to McGregor. We all know that the moment he gets Conor to the ground, there's little chance that he can get up because of Khabib's ability to smash or choke you up on the ground. Which we really see in the fight.

The pressure power that khabib have shown us is really his strength and he was able to use it for his favor.

Sad to say I saw an interview with mcgregor and it seems that he is retiring.

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With the way Dana thinks, rematch is very much possible. The hype is there but listening to Khabibs post fight interview, he doesn't like hype. Just like what McGregor did. You know how the mouth of McGregor works to hype up a fight and Khabib doesnt like it, he took it personally thats why UFC 229 ended in a brawl.

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Quote from: Pamahaw on October 08, 2018, 03:53:58 PM

Quote from: cellard on October 08, 2018, 01:02:32 PM

I really don't see why there wouldn't be a rematch. I think there will be a rematch, it's pretty obvious. This is the perfect dream scenario that the UFC wanted: More drama. Now people want to see a rematch, specially when Khabib gets his titled stripped most likely. Two of the guys that were involved in the brawl are banned from competing on the UFC, but that doesn't make the fight impossible. It's Khabib fighting on teh octagon not his teammates.

Rematch would be very imminent on this match-up. The post fight brawl serves as a promotion for the rematch and who would not agree with as it will entail very huge amount of money and millions or even record breaking PPV as people are eager to watch it. Very entertaining on my view, the first fight i mean and the second would be more exciting as i see it.

Of course a rematch is inevitable. With all the pre and post fight drama, everyone is talking so the hype is still there. As @cellard has said, Conor is still the cash cow and Dana will just go along because this is business. There's no current roster in the UFC right now that can even match how much money is flowing into the business. Dana says the PPV buys is way over 2 million.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/10/8/17953264/dana-white-ufc-229-khabib-vs-mcgregor-did-way-over-2-million-pay-per-view-buys-mma-news

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Quote from: cellard on October 08, 2018, 01:02:32 PM

Quote from: darkangel11 on October 08, 2018, 11:28:09 AM

Quote from: justspare on October 08, 2018, 11:01:43 AM

If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Unfortunately he won't have a chance to prove it because there will be no rematch after what Khabib and his mates did.

Quote from: justspare on October 08, 2018, 11:01:43 AM

If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Unfortunately he won't have a chance to prove it because there will be no rematch after what Khabib and his mates did.

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Wrestling is part of MMA, if you only like striking then stick to boxing.

True, Fedor started with Judo and so did Khabib.

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I think there will be a rematch. He has to get his cardio issues together, it's been happening for too long. Without endurance and polishing timming and keep practicing takedown defense, he can't win this damn guy.

I very much doubt there will be. They may be playing around, testing the viewers and waiting for the demand to skyrocket, but they also need to make a stand and show that such unsportsmanlike behavior won't be tolerated.

I really don't see why there wouldn't be a rematch. I think there will be a rematch, it's pretty obvious. This is the perfect dream scenario that the UFC wanted: More drama. Now people want to see a rematch, specially when Khabib gets his titled stripped most likely. Two of the guys that were involved in the brawl are banned from competing on the UFC, but that doesn't make the fight impossible. It's Khabib fighting on teh octagon not his teammates.

Conor will either get the rematch next, or fight Nate for the trilogy, perhaps fight Tony, or even Portier again but I don't see Conor giving a rematch to someone he has beaten.

Conor is still the money fight, he can get whoever he wants to fight again, the money is too good to refuse, even for Khabib which says he doesn't fight for money (yeah sure).

I want to see Khabib take on Fergusson tho, let's see if he can stop someone with pretty much unlimited stamina.

Agreed. I reckon it is already written in Dana's storyboard that there will be a rematch. Conor wants it and Khabib certainly will not mind another big paycheck hehehe.

But Dana has to work hard in asking for the minimum fine and punishment from the Nevada State Athletic Commision for Khabib if the UFC wants this rematch within a year.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 08, 2018, 03:56:24 PM

Quote from: justspare on October 08, 2018, 11:01:43 AM

I have seen everyone ridiculing connor for the fight because he was not capable of defending himself against a take down and everyone talking about where khabib is from and how he did not take the insults very well and he fought really hard while connor was just making a joke out of this whole thing.

However, people are forgetting that khabib was fighting and winning while connor was out drinking and probably doing harder drugs and didn't fought anyone worthy just an exhibition match against mayweather. Connor at his worst took beating for 4 rounds and still manage to see the light at the end of the tunnel until one bad move.

If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Conor's stand up game is strong, but Khabib still dominated him on his feet, after he had trained in boxing for months to fight Mayweather.... There is no excuses for Conor getting dominated on his feet.

Either way, Conor doesn't deserve a rematch, he got completely mauled as Joe Rogan says, nothing about that match indicated that a rematch would go any differently. Conor will get mauled a second time, and that big mouth will never utter a word again.

Well, you don't know dana white. He can make a rematch Khabib vs mcgregor easily haha, but i'm agree with you, i think McGregor doesn't deserve a rematch. I'm a mcgregor fan and the result vs khabib is not good. I don't know, maybe he will start again from the bottom.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 08, 2018, 03:56:24 PM

Quote from: justspare on October 08, 2018, 11:01:43 AM

I have seen everyone ridiculing connor for the fight because he was not capable of defending himself against a take down and everyone talking about where khabib is from and how he did not take the insults very well and he fought really hard while connor was just making a joke out of this whole thing.

However, people are forgetting that khabib was fighting and winning while connor was out drinking and probably doing harder drugs and didn't fought anyone worthy just an exhibition match against mayweather. Connor at his worst took beating for 4 rounds and still manage to see the light at the end of the tunnel until one bad move.

If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Conor's stand up game is strong, but Khabib still dominated him on his feet, after he had trained in boxing for months to fight Mayweather.... There is no excuses for Conor getting dominated on his feet.

Either way, Conor doesn't deserve a rematch, he got completely mauled as Joe Rogan says, nothing about that match indicated that a rematch would go any differently. Conor will get mauled a second time, and that big mouth will never utter a word again.

I like to see this kind of fight, I hope that would end his career so he will stop talking, it just makes hype on him and people betting on him.
Only Mayweather has the right to have a big mouth because until now he is still undefeated, a possible rematch on Pacman is more exciting I guess.

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Quote from: justspare on October 08, 2018, 11:01:43 AM

I have seen everyone ridiculing connor for the fight because he was not capable of defending himself against a take down and everyone talking about where khabib is from and how he did not take the insults very well and he fought really hard while connor was just making a joke out of this whole thing.

However, people are forgetting that khabib was fighting and winning while connor was out drinking and probably doing harder drugs and didn't fought anyone worthy just an exhibition match against mayweather. Connor at his worst took beating for 4 rounds and still manage to see the light at the end of the tunnel until one bad move.

If connor really prepared for years like khabib did instead of just publicity stunts, connor seems like the better fighter to me. He just needs stage time and training and he will kick anyones butt in the ring.

Conor's stand up game is strong, but Khabib still dominated him on his feet, after he had trained in boxing for months to fight Mayweather.... There is no excuses for Conor getting dominated on his feet.

Either way, Conor doesn't deserve a rematch, he got completely mauled as Joe Rogan says, nothing about that match indicated that a rematch would go any differently. Conor will get mauled a second time, and that big mouth will never utter a word again.

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