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Quote from: NapoleonBonaparte on July 31, 2014, 12:56:27 AM

Just move to another country. No reason to stay in UK as it is easy to move within the zone.

The only problem there being that not everyone has the conditions to do so (money, family, friends, language), and the place you might end up going to, may not necessarily be a whole of a lot different.

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Just move to another country. No reason to stay in UK as it is easy to move within the zone.

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World is what it is - it's never equal, because there are always a group of people who tries to rule everything.

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Anyone know what happened to the guy from Middlesbrough that was behind Oink ?

Now that truly was a great place. I can't remember how I managed to get into the Pink Palace but I haven't since Oink's demise found an alternative that is anything like as good.

I did once sit an online "interview" to get into (I think) Whatcd Cheesy

- I failed when I was asked about different mp3 encoder settings - I only use FLAC Wink

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I agree citizens should be paid for watching state broadcast propaganda

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Quote from: whitefly on July 24, 2014, 07:57:05 AM

Knowledge should be free in my opinion. Not everybody can afford things, does it mean he shouldn't have it?

Information doesn't obey any rules, it can be copied, redistributed, seen etc.. there's no way that that can be prevented.

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The media companies have their hands in everybody's pockets. You can't even show a Blu-Ray disc if you legally purchased it to a patient sitting in a doctor's office (i'm not even talking about the waiting room, I'm talking about a private area like an exam room or dentist's chair) because it's considered public display. For that you need to buy a $667 (guess they didn't want $666) license from MPLS when they send you a cease & desist letter.

Exactly, this protects only a very tiny group and screw over the rest of civilization, including artists.

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Knowledge should be free in my opinion. Not everybody can afford things, does it mean he shouldn't have it?

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The worst part is people don't believe you and think you're making it up when you're telling them about this kind of bullshit, a bit like when you try to explain the economy lol Tongue

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The media companies have their hands in everybody's pockets. You can't even show a Blu-Ray disc if you legally purchased it to a patient sitting in a doctor's office (i'm not even talking about the waiting room, I'm talking about a private area like an exam room or dentist's chair) because it's considered public display. For that you need to buy a $667 (guess they didn't want $666) license from MPLS when they send you a cease & desist letter.

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Quote from: sintax on July 24, 2014, 04:21:32 AM

Seems a bit weird that they'll bother sending warning letters when their not going to take any further action anyway Huh

That's called watered down politics, there have been countries that have actually made it go through where you get a letter sent and then you can be taken to court or be disconnected from your ISP, I believe France has done that and the UK did attempt it at one point but there's clearly been that much outrage and opposition they've been forced to think twice, but they're trying to still make it look like they're doing something.

Is a bit like these fines being levied against banks that commit money laundering crimes etc. they can't do as much damage as they want to because of lobbying interests.

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Quote from: BTCmoons on July 24, 2014, 06:07:40 AM

Quote from: medUSA on July 24, 2014, 04:06:27 AM

Quote from: byt411 on July 23, 2014, 04:16:08 AM

That definitely doesn't make any sense at all. Why would it be illegal? It's like a library, only remotely and easily accessible, with loads more information. There is nothing wrong with file sharing....

You are right, there is nothing wrong with the act of file sharing, trouble is when people are sharing copyrighted files.

This is accurate, there is no real need to do this. File sharing on a P2P level is very inefficient and puts users at risk of getting infected with a virus

How do you figure p2p file sharing is very inefficient? Sure, if you're not careful with what you download and install, you could run into trouble; but otherwise, it seems a pretty good system to me.

But what we do actually need is copyright reform, and getting rid of useless middlemen.

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Quote from: medUSA on July 24, 2014, 04:06:27 AM

Quote from: byt411 on July 23, 2014, 04:16:08 AM

That definitely doesn't make any sense at all. Why would it be illegal? It's like a library, only remotely and easily accessible, with loads more information. There is nothing wrong with file sharing....

You are right, there is nothing wrong with the act of file sharing, trouble is when people are sharing copyrighted files.

This is accurate, there is no real need to do this. File sharing on a P2P level is very inefficient and puts users at risk of getting infected with a virus

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Seems a bit weird that they'll bother sending warning letters when their not going to take any further action anyway Huh

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Quote from: byt411 on July 23, 2014, 04:16:08 AM

That definitely doesn't make any sense at all. Why would it be illegal? It's like a library, only remotely and easily accessible, with loads more information. There is nothing wrong with file sharing....

You are right, there is nothing wrong with the act of file sharing, trouble is when people are sharing copyrighted files.

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Quote from: TheIrishman on July 23, 2014, 11:42:57 PM

The UK Did *NOT* Just Decriminalize File-Sharing

http://torrentfreak.com/the-uk-did-not-just-decriminalize-file-sharing-140723/

<< All it took yesterday was a single article to trigger off a tidal wave of copycat reports across dozens of sites including the mainstream RT.com. Just to be absolutely clear - Britain HAS NOT decriminalized file-sharing and to suggest otherwise only puts people at unnecessary risk. File-sharing remains ILLEGAL in the UK, guaranteed. >>

I was going to post exactly this. This is just an added "voluntary" measure, similar to the six strikes in the US; it doesn't protect anyone from actions copyright holders might want to take against file sharers.

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The UK Did *NOT* Just Decriminalize File-Sharing

http://torrentfreak.com/the-uk-did-not-just-decriminalize-file-sharing-140723/

<< All it took yesterday was a single article to trigger off a tidal wave of copycat reports across dozens of sites including the mainstream RT.com. Just to be absolutely clear - Britain HAS NOT decriminalized file-sharing and to suggest otherwise only puts people at unnecessary risk. File-sharing remains ILLEGAL in the UK, guaranteed. >>

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Is this downloading or file sharing?

Attacking downloaders and small time uploaders isn't really cost effective. Going against service providers might still be.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 23, 2014, 11:00:31 AM

lol... good luck with that. Grin

Nowadays with tools such as VPNs, TOR and I2P, it is near to impossible to track file-sharing. If some idiot is downloading the files without any precaution, then I don't have any sympathy for him.

Politicians usually are not so technical skilled, they think the law simply applies to the digital sphere. Files will go trough the internet in one way or another, basically it's what the internet was made for - it's silly to try to destroy the infrastructure of the internet because they don’t like something.

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lol... good luck with that. Grin

Nowadays with tools such as VPNs, TOR and I2P, it is near to impossible to track file-sharing. If some idiot is downloading the files without any precaution, then I don't have any sympathy for him.

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Quote from: byt411 on July 23, 2014, 04:16:08 AM

That definitely doesn't make any sense at all. Why would it be illegal? It's like a library, only remotely and easily accessible, with loads more information.
There is nothing wrong with file sharing....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

It makes all sense.

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