UK users - ASUS offers up to £300 for your old GPU

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 15, 2023, 07:54:25 AM

Quote from: FP91G on February 15, 2023, 06:39:11 AM

I accidentally met a man who does this. The Chinese have learned to make a lot of branded items very cheap, but not all. They did not learn how to make branded glasses, but their dresses, T-shirts and bags are of very good quality. The certificate is also easy to forge. Store employees are engaged in such fraud, the owner will not do this.

When a customer detects that the GPU is counterfeit, can he get his money back?
Maybe you need the information to reach the owner to be able to make the claim.

There is a lot of such fraud with video cards on aliexpress, when instead of 8 GB the seller sends a 4 GB video card, or instead of a more expensive model, he sends a cheap one, but at the price of a cheap video card. The return is very long, and the seller hopes that the buyer will not be involved in the return procedure. But the price of such ads is always below market prices.

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Quote from: FP91G on February 15, 2023, 06:39:11 AM

I accidentally met a man who does this. The Chinese have learned to make a lot of branded items very cheap, but not all. They did not learn how to make branded glasses, but their dresses, T-shirts and bags are of very good quality. The certificate is also easy to forge. Store employees are engaged in such fraud, the owner will not do this.

When a customer detects that the GPU is counterfeit, can he get his money back?
Maybe you need the information to reach the owner to be able to make the claim.

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Quote from: adaseb on February 13, 2023, 12:09:22 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on February 12, 2023, 06:23:26 AM

Quote from: FP91G on February 12, 2023, 05:12:15 AM

In Russia, there were many cases when a Chinese fake was sold in the official store.

Sold in official stores? That was the owners of these stores wanting to earn extra money with this fraud.

How was this resolved? How can the user be sure that the product is really original?

From my understanding with luxury clothes, usually there is some certificate of authenticy with it. This certificate has some security features. Whether those can be faked or not is another question.

However unless you are familure with the product, it’s hard to tell whether it’s legit or not. Some pretty good looking fakes out there.

I accidentally met a man who does this. The Chinese have learned to make a lot of branded items very cheap, but not all. They did not learn how to make branded glasses, but their dresses, T-shirts and bags are of very good quality. The certificate is also easy to forge. Store employees are engaged in such fraud, the owner will not do this.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 12, 2023, 03:01:22 AM

The company organizing this promotion is OPIA - https://www.opia.com/

It seems that they are experts in doing these types of promotions, as they handle the entire process.
https://www.opia.com/sales-promotions/sales-promotion-solutions/trade-in-promotions/

I found this on their website:

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To ensure efficient and ethical disposal of old products, Opia works with a network of accredited recyclers focused on maximising reusability and value of previous devices as well as on responsible and sustainable disposal.

Source: https://www.opia.com/sales-promotions/sales-promotion-solutions/trade-in-promotions/

There's two alternatives then, recycle or reuse, and in my opinion it doesn't make any sense to recycle the components of these GPUs that they are accepting, because they are "recent" GPUs and only accept fully functioning ones, so by logic they will sell them for someone to use again.
They probably sell in batches to some distributor to resell in other countries, or even sell to specific companies that need GPUs and will pay cheaper prices.

Anyway this campaign is very interesting .

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Quote from: JayDDee on February 13, 2023, 12:47:02 PM

I've never hear of Opia, is it well known in UK? Are they licensed distributors for Asus?

This is what I mentioned in this post:

Quote from: joker_josue on February 12, 2023, 03:01:22 AM

The company organizing this promotion is OPIA - https://www.opia.com/

It seems that they are experts in doing these types of promotions, as they handle the entire process.
https://www.opia.com/sales-promotions/sales-promotion-solutions/trade-in-promotions/

It is one of the best known companies in the marketing sector, which has already done for Samsung, Microsoft, Google, HP, LG, Asus and others.

Therefore, I would say that it is a completely legitimate campaign. And the terms and conditions on the website make it clear that the campaign is promoted by Asus.

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It looks fishy, asuspromotions.com is registered to Opia, I don't see any direct involvement by Asus. Asus has promotion.asus.com.
I've never hear of Opia, is it well known in UK? Are they licensed distributors for Asus?

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 12, 2023, 06:23:26 AM

Quote from: FP91G on February 12, 2023, 05:12:15 AM

In Russia, there were many cases when a Chinese fake was sold in the official store.

Sold in official stores? That was the owners of these stores wanting to earn extra money with this fraud.

How was this resolved? How can the user be sure that the product is really original?

From my understanding with luxury clothes, usually there is some certificate of authenticy with it. This certificate has some security features. Whether those can be faked or not is another question.

However unless you are familure with the product, it’s hard to tell whether it’s legit or not. Some pretty good looking fakes out there.

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Quote from: JayDDee on February 12, 2023, 02:18:07 PM

Not likely associated with ASUS at all so my speculation was wrong. Might be a good idea to change the subject.

The promoter of the promotion is ASUS. This OPIA company just generates this entire campaign.
That is, ASUS hired a company to manage all the logistics of this promotion.

ASUS is not reconditioning products, they want to sell new products and create campaigns for that purpose, like this promotion. They then leave that task to other companies.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 12, 2023, 03:01:22 AM

The company organizing this promotion is OPIA - https://www.opia.com/

It seems that they are experts in doing these types of promotions, as they handle the entire process.
https://www.opia.com/sales-promotions/sales-promotion-solutions/trade-in-promotions/

Not likely associated with ASUS at all so my speculation was wrong. Might be a good idea to change the subject.

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Quote from: FP91G on February 12, 2023, 05:12:15 AM

In Russia, there were many cases when a Chinese fake was sold in the official store.

Sold in official stores? That was the owners of these stores wanting to earn extra money with this fraud.

How was this resolved? How can the user be sure that the product is really original?

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Quote from: adaseb on February 11, 2023, 11:59:52 PM

I know that with certain Luxary clothing brands like Gucci or Prada they actually destroy the clothes instead of discounting them. They do this because they want their products to be in low supply and get more sales.

With GPUs however I don’t think it’s similar situation. There are millions of GPUs out there. Many people are trying to unload them. Buying back 1000 or 2000 units won’t really make a big effect in the market. It’ll only cost Asus tons of money.

In your country, there is no sale of these brands from China several tens of times cheaper? In Russia, there were many cases when a Chinese fake was sold in the official store.

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The company organizing this promotion is OPIA - https://www.opia.com/

It seems that they are experts in doing these types of promotions, as they handle the entire process.
https://www.opia.com/sales-promotions/sales-promotion-solutions/trade-in-promotions/

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I know that with certain Luxary clothing brands like Gucci or Prada they actually destroy the clothes instead of discounting them. They do this because they want their products to be in low supply and get more sales.

With GPUs however I don’t think it’s similar situation. There are millions of GPUs out there. Many people are trying to unload them. Buying back 1000 or 2000 units won’t really make a big effect in the market. It’ll only cost Asus tons of money.

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Quote from: adaseb on February 10, 2023, 12:18:04 AM

Are you sure they are going to be destroyed? If it was Nvidia or AMD doing this promo then I can see them being destroyed to keep a tigger supply and they would get more sales since gamers might buy new instead of used.

No, not sure. It's been done before where a company buys back and destroys their unsold stock so they can sell more of their new stock at higher prices.
This seems like a variation with the same purpose.

Nvidia doesn't sell many anyway so it's more attractive for the OEMs to do it.

Edit: If Nvidia had such a promotion, regardless of the disposition of the returned cards, the OEMs would be screaming. The main reason EVGA dropped
GPUs is because Nvidia sell directly and compete with them.

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Quote from: FP91G on February 11, 2023, 08:37:03 AM

I don't think Asus will sell old hardware. Perhaps they will sell it all to another company that will replace the cooling system and sell "new video cards" on aliexpress

For a graphics card manufacturer, components are very cheap because of bulk purchases, so they definitely won't buy video cards for components.

Of course, it won't be ASUS dealing with these cards. They are just the promoters of the promotion.
I'm sure they are working with a company that will check and validate the cards sent, according to the established criteria. Afterwards, this company will recycle the equipment or recondition it. Hence it is very difficult to know what will happen, if it is not said directly.

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Quote from: joker_josue on February 10, 2023, 02:55:22 AM

Quote from: adaseb on February 10, 2023, 12:18:04 AM

However this is only ASUS doing this. If they destroy the GPUs there is some benefit for them by reducing supply but they would also be helping out the rest of the GPU manufacturers at the same time and I don’t think they care whether their competition gets sales or not.

The fact that they only accept GPUs in "perfect working condition", is proof that their goal is to give the equipment a second use.

It can even be to recycle board components. With the lack of materials on the market, it might be a strategy to get some. But will you give £300 to recycle material? I also think it will be for reconditioning and selling in smaller markets elsewhere in the world.

I don't think Asus will sell old hardware. Perhaps they will sell it all to another company that will replace the cooling system and sell "new video cards" on aliexpress

For a graphics card manufacturer, components are very cheap because of bulk purchases, so they definitely won't buy video cards for components.

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Quote from: adaseb on February 10, 2023, 12:18:04 AM

However this is only ASUS doing this. If they destroy the GPUs there is some benefit for them by reducing supply but they would also be helping out the rest of the GPU manufacturers at the same time and I don’t think they care whether their competition gets sales or not.

The fact that they only accept GPUs in "perfect working condition", is proof that their goal is to give the equipment a second use.

It can even be to recycle board components. With the lack of materials on the market, it might be a strategy to get some. But will you give £300 to recycle material? I also think it will be for reconditioning and selling in smaller markets elsewhere in the world.

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Are you sure they are going to be destroyed? If it was Nvidia or AMD doing this promo then I can see them being destroyed to keep a tigger supply and they would get more sales since gamers might buy new instead of used.

However this is only ASUS doing this. If they destroy the GPUs there is some benefit for them by reducing supply but they would also be helping out the rest of the GPU manufacturers at the same time and I don’t think they care whether their competition gets sales or not.

For example if you trade in your phone at your cell phone provider, they will most likely send it to auction since they only make money off the service.

If you trade in your phone at Apple store then they might destroy it or use it as a refurbished models for warranty purposes to keep supply tight.

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Quote from: adaseb on February 09, 2023, 12:15:46 PM

I think it is smart. Because many people don't want to go thru the hassle of selling their old GPUs on eBay or on Facebook market place and dealing with the headache. Generally what they will most likely do is take the GPU and they will be auctioned off and some resellers will be bidding on those.

They do this with smartphones. Its a good way to upsell people a new phone. Obviously you sell for less than selling it privately but many people don't want to sell electronics second hand because its a pain dealing with certain buyers. You know how it is. You want $100 for a phone and they offer you $20, because "its got 1 scratch I gotta replace screen for $80", etc.

And this is also proof that GPU sales must be suffering.

The returned GPUs will likely be destroyed to take them completely off the market to prevent them from competing with new products. Many tech companies do this.
Cisco was notorious for buying their unsold products at retail for the sole purpose of destroying them to prevent them from being sold to anyone else.

I'm surprised the 3060ti is included in the buyback as it's the newest available in it's class. I thought they'd wait for the 4060ti to be out.
I'm not in UK but I have a couple of cards on the list would trade.

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I think it is smart. Because many people don't want to go thru the hassle of selling their old GPUs on eBay or on Facebook market place and dealing with the headache. Generally what they will most likely do is take the GPU and they will be auctioned off and some resellers will be bidding on those.

They do this with smartphones. Its a good way to upsell people a new phone. Obviously you sell for less than selling it privately but many people don't want to sell electronics second hand because its a pain dealing with certain buyers. You know how it is. You want $100 for a phone and they offer you $20, because "its got 1 scratch I gotta replace screen for $80", etc.

And this is also proof that GPU sales must be suffering.

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