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Topic: Ukraine and EU sign free trade zone deal with EU (Read 1549 times)

legendary
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So, has Russia taken control of Ukrainian yet? Should be a simple task for such a big country.

That's the pincher, isn't it? Smiley Russia was never interested in taking control over Ukraine, unlike some Western powers tried to misrepresent.
sr. member
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it's a trade agreement, not a free trade agreement...
full member
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So, has Russia taken control of Ukrainian yet? Should be a simple task for such a big country.
legendary
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I've found an interesting read:
http://meatinfo.ru/news/na-ukrainu-nadvigaetsya-tsunami-restitutsii-326551

A wave of restitution threatens to overrun Ukraine.

One of the consequences of signing of EU association agreement is Ukraine's obligation to adapt its laws to EU standards, where restitution is a key element.

Polish and Hungarian former owners have serious views on property and land in Western-Ukraine, as does the Jewish community.
legendary
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Ukraine made such a big deal from this. As the result they will be only poorer, even with only association. Look at Bulgaria. Look at Greece. Look at Romania and so on. Europe does not need anything from these countries. Not even as a workforce.

The Western Europeans might not need the workforce, but for sure they need the ready access to these markets. Western & Central European markets look saturated right now. The only growth is occurring in the east, especially in countries such as Croatia, Baltics and Poland.
hero member
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in defi we trust
Ukraine made such a big deal from this. As the result they will be only poorer, even with only association. Look at Bulgaria. Look at Greece. Look at Romania and so on. Europe does not need anything from these countries. Not even as a workforce.

Again somebody who has no clue about what he is talking.

Romania was made poor by the damn communist regime and in the following 11 years when an ex kgb trained officer was elected through fraud as president.

Things have improved so much during the last years only an idiot would deny it.

It is our own fault that things are not like in the rest of the EU. It's the corruption and our politicians fault for this , we are to blame for it.
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Ukraine made such a big deal from this. As the result they will be only poorer, even with only association. Look at Bulgaria. Look at Greece. Look at Romania and so on. Europe does not need anything from these countries. Not even as a workforce.


Greece and those other countries were not made poor by EU.  They had debt crisis going back decades and then adopting the EU meant they couldn't print themselves out of debt.   Would you rather have high unemployment or hyperinflation?  The latter would be more harmful for small economies than say Weimar Germany which was capable of producing its' own consumer goods.

Plus we've known what the traditional strategy was.  The Greeks were probably counting on America, Australia and Canada to accept a million of their unemployed, except to find nobody wants the poor Greeks when you can instead have multi-millionaires from Arabia, China and India.


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Ukraine made such a big deal from this. As the result they will be only poorer, even with only association. Look at Bulgaria. Look at Greece. Look at Romania and so on. Europe does not need anything from these countries. Not even as a workforce.
hero member
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These three countries will give the EU more manpower really cheap, unprotected labor to be subject to work without any social rights ...
Really a win, but only for large companies, a defeat for European workers!

Not to the Ukrainians who move west.  You make more money as a construction labourer in London than working as a doctor in Ukraine.  There's also far more worker rights in western Europe than in the east.


Though moving to a cesspool like London is equivalent to selling your soul for money.  It's not the 1980s communism anymore, most of Eastern Europe now has contemporary cities with technology and it has a better community than the west.  It's just the wages which suck and/or finding a job.  Otherwise if you have a job it's often a good thing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYqY5YELd0
What Americans think of Eastern Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgCrhIevwU
The real Eastern Europe



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These three countries will give the EU more manpower really cheap, unprotected labor to be subject to work without any social rights ...
Really a win, but only for large companies, a defeat for European workers!
hero member
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Asian region, I suppose. I can remember that he said this once, but I can't remember an exact country name.
I think he mentioned Japan.

No way , I clearly remember he had no clue about the fact that "blood money" is still widely used in Japan nor what it means.
He also had a wrong picture about Japan in many things including their law system.

Probably he lives in Patala.

legendary
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Asian region, I suppose. I can remember that he said this once, but I can't remember an exact country name.
I think he mentioned Japan.
hero member
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Asian region, I suppose. I can remember that he said this once, but I can't remember an exact country name.

I have asked him tens of times to reveal his beautiful country but he keeps dodging the question.
Mean time he accuses every country in the world of being shitty and this although I clearly remember he said he has never set foot in us/eu or even Russia.

I hate people who live in their huts and by reading newspapers or wikipedia they claim they know everything about everything.

If Sweden is a shitty country then what the hell is Nigeria ?
legendary
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Asian region, I suppose. I can remember that he said this once, but I can't remember an exact country name.
hero member
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Besides , calling Sweden a shitty nation ? you jungle boy with your fourth world country?

Oh, trust me. My country is much more developed than your country (Romania). The crime rate is much lower, and the HDI is very much higher. Posting some pictures from your country, to remind you:


And your country is what? Without telling its name I assume is a landfill near a bigger landfill.

Where are you from , god of all knowledge?
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While this serves USA geopolitical goals and weakens the Russian position in the region I only see the EU as being the looser, heck not even Romania is fully integrated right now, and there are still major issues with roman immigrants in southern europe right now but that's my opinion I guess
legendary
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Besides , calling Sweden a shitty nation ? you jungle boy with your fourth world country?

Oh, trust me. My country is much more developed than your country (Romania). The crime rate is much lower, and the HDI is very much higher. Posting some pictures from your country, to remind you:



legendary
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Here is a good presentation of the EU-UA deal:

5 facts you need to know about Ukraine-EU trade deal
http://rt.com/business/168856-ukraine-europe-trade/
hero member
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Not one European person in any EU country does not want to see any Ukrainians comming in to their country...to take jobs or to bring "great ukrainian culture" there ! They hate forigners...So go ahead jump of joy now...and stay poore and humiliated by your European mentors in the future.

Also, Ukraine is having a huge population (46 million, which can result in a migrant population of 5 million to 15 million). Even the Bulgarians (population of 7 million) faced so much travel restrictions in the EU, despite Bulgaria being an EU member state. Even if Ukraine becomes the EU member, major countries such as Spain, UK, France, Germany and Italy will impose travel restrictions on them for at least 20 years. Only the shitty nations, such as Sweden and Poland will be welcoming the Ukrainian immigrants.

The thread and the news are about a free trade agreement. The EU has this with a lot of countries which will never be part of EU so stop with your non-sense.

Besides , calling Sweden a shitty nation ? you jungle boy with your fourth world country?
legendary
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Not one European person in any EU country does not want to see any Ukrainians comming in to their country...to take jobs or to bring "great ukrainian culture" there ! They hate forigners...So go ahead jump of joy now...and stay poore and humiliated by your European mentors in the future.

Also, Ukraine is having a huge population (46 million, which can result in a migrant population of 5 million to 15 million). Even the Bulgarians (population of 7 million) faced so much travel restrictions in the EU, despite Bulgaria being an EU member state. Even if Ukraine becomes the EU member, major countries such as Spain, UK, France, Germany and Italy will impose travel restrictions on them for at least 20 years. Only the shitty nations, such as Sweden and Poland will be welcoming the Ukrainian immigrants.
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