Topic: Ukraine has launched a global initiative United24 to raise funds (Read 359 times)
Ukraine is experiencing a serious crisis so that the presence of the official fundraising site will make it easy for anyone to help Ukraine, of course strict supervision is important so that all aid can be well received by all Ukrainian citizens.
...My nation could literally get out of debt trouble if we had 40 billion dollars, we are a poor nation and 40 billion dollars is enough to make us not a poor nation anymore. This is why Ukraine getting this amount is a big deal, they would be able to both defend, and also rebuild with that kind of money and would be so much help for them.
The war is not over, so it is impossible to predict now what amount will be required to restore the economy of Ukraine. But it is already clear that this will require more than a trillion dollars, which is comparable to the total capitalization of the entire cryptocurrency market. Just such a figure was announced recently by Oleg Ustenko, the presidential adviser on economic issues.You have to remember that Ukraine was one of the most important nations in the USSR, probably biggest after Russia, which means that they had so much money for building new stuff in order to make people see that communism works, even if it was breaking their treasury. This means that we are talking about a nation that will never get some stuff back, and that is the sad part.
I sincerely wish that you and your country will never be subjected to such aggression that we are now experiencing. But we have no options other than defeating the aggressor! All any other options are just playing into the hands of the occupier! Historically, it is already a fact - ANY negotiations and any AGREEMENTS with Russia, this is just a delay for Russia to implement its plans. Russia's plans in relation to Ukraine are the total destruction of an independent, strong Ukraine. And that means all of us, all the inhabitants of Ukraine. We don't want this! And we have already proven that we can win. The issue of restoration, I already wrote, is very complex, very costly, and very extended in time. But we'll do it too.. Not the first time...
From what I can see, Russia has gained a lot of momentum during the last two weeks or so. Their offensive picked pace after the Ukrainian defense line at Popasna was breached. In a matter of one week, the Russian army advanced 10-15 km from Popasna to the North, South and West directions. And the war won't end if Russia believes that they are advancing and they can achieve their objectives. Because loss of equipment or manpower is not going to deter them. At some point, Ukraine needs to go back to the negotiation table and give concessions. Else this war will never end.
...My nation could literally get out of debt trouble if we had 40 billion dollars, we are a poor nation and 40 billion dollars is enough to make us not a poor nation anymore. This is why Ukraine getting this amount is a big deal, they would be able to both defend, and also rebuild with that kind of money and would be so much help for them.
The war is not over, so it is impossible to predict now what amount will be required to restore the economy of Ukraine. But it is already clear that this will require more than a trillion dollars, which is comparable to the total capitalization of the entire cryptocurrency market. Just such a figure was announced recently by Oleg Ustenko, the presidential adviser on economic issues.
According to preliminary estimates, to restore the infrastructure destroyed by terrorists in Ukraine (cities, factories, roads, etc.), today, about 500-600 billion dollars are needed
This is a very large amount. Definitely, Ukraine cannot cope with such a financial After the end of the war, I see only 3 sources of financing for the restoration: systemic international assistance, reparations from Russia, domestic financing.
...My nation could literally get out of debt trouble if we had 40 billion dollars, we are a poor nation and 40 billion dollars is enough to make us not a poor nation anymore. This is why Ukraine getting this amount is a big deal, they would be able to both defend, and also rebuild with that kind of money and would be so much help for them.
The war is not over, so it is impossible to predict now what amount will be required to restore the economy of Ukraine. But it is already clear that this will require more than a trillion dollars, which is comparable to the total capitalization of the entire cryptocurrency market. Just such a figure was announced recently by Oleg Ustenko, the presidential adviser on economic issues.
Fund rising will not help to win a war by Ukraine. It will prolong the war further. You are going to increase the economic value again.As we know,due to war economy was slept over many countries in the world. The important one among the world is economy, if the developed countries like United States, China, French, Switzerland involve in this war.In a very short period, their will be end of the war.
Fundraising goes for HUMANITARIAN purposes, and infrastructural. Military budgets are filled through completely different channels. In addition to partner assistance, there are targeted programs for the supply of weapons and consumables (cartridges, shells, drones, etc.) from countries that are fighting against rashism. So do not try to engage in the substitution of concepts, and confuse humanitarian funds with the combat support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, these are completely different directions!
This reminds us of the era of Genghis K who felt proud in building town of skulls. Noone knows how many such death we will face in days to come.
Fund rising will not help to win a war by Ukraine. It will prolong the war further. You are going to increase the economic value again.As we know,due to war economy was slept over many countries in the world. The important one among the world is economy, if the developed countries like United States, China, French, Switzerland involve in this war.In a very short period, their will be end of the war.
Fundraising goes for HUMANITARIAN purposes, and infrastructural. Military budgets are filled through completely different channels. In addition to partner assistance, there are targeted programs for the supply of weapons and consumables (cartridges, shells, drones, etc.) from countries that are fighting against rashism. So do not try to engage in the substitution of concepts, and confuse humanitarian funds with the combat support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, these are completely different directions!
Fund rising will not help to win a war by Ukraine. It will prolong the war further. You are going to increase the economic value again.As we know,due to war economy was slept over many countries in the world. The important one among the world is economy, if the developed countries like United States, China, French, Switzerland involve in this war. In a very short period, their will be end of the war.
As a resident of Ukraine, I can tell you where this money goes. On the example of the terribly affected suburbs of Kyiv - Irpen and Bucha.
After the Russian terrorist occupation troops were driven out of the cities, almost everything was destroyed in these cities - roads, communications, electric lines, lines for delivering water and gas to residential buildings and utilities, ....
You can google and find original photos of cities right after the liberation, and now. Roads have been restored. The supply of water, heating, gas is being restored. Power lines, railway interchanges and tracks have been restored, clinics and hospitals, schools, kindergartens are being restored.
All this requires huge funds. Once again, thank you all so much for your help and support! May what you do come back to you many times more!
After the Russian terrorist occupation troops were driven out of the cities, almost everything was destroyed in these cities - roads, communications, electric lines, lines for delivering water and gas to residential buildings and utilities, ....
You can google and find original photos of cities right after the liberation, and now. Roads have been restored. The supply of water, heating, gas is being restored. Power lines, railway interchanges and tracks have been restored, clinics and hospitals, schools, kindergartens are being restored.
All this requires huge funds. Once again, thank you all so much for your help and support! May what you do come back to you many times more!
Well.. tens of thousands of people have lost their lives already. Now nothing can be done for them. But at least some of the damaged infrastructure can be rebuilt. It is going to be a huge task, as I read that already losses amount to hundreds of billions of USD. The government needs to prioritize some sectors over the other, since they won't get funds for complete restoration. Maybe healthcare, education and transport sectors need to be put on priority. Also, the government needs to make sure that the fund allocation is not done in a biased manner and all the regions should receive equal amounts.
I sincerely wish that you and your country will never be subjected to such aggression that we are now experiencing. But we have no options other than defeating the aggressor! All any other options are just playing into the hands of the occupier! Historically, it is already a fact - ANY negotiations and any AGREEMENTS with Russia, this is just a delay for Russia to implement its plans. Russia's plans in relation to Ukraine are the total destruction of an independent, strong Ukraine. And that means all of us, all the inhabitants of Ukraine. We don't want this! And we have already proven that we can win. The issue of restoration, I already wrote, is very complex, very costly, and very extended in time. But we'll do it too.. Not the first time...
As a resident of Ukraine, I can tell you where this money goes. On the example of the terribly affected suburbs of Kyiv - Irpen and Bucha.
After the Russian terrorist occupation troops were driven out of the cities, almost everything was destroyed in these cities - roads, communications, electric lines, lines for delivering water and gas to residential buildings and utilities, ....
You can google and find original photos of cities right after the liberation, and now. Roads have been restored. The supply of water, heating, gas is being restored. Power lines, railway interchanges and tracks have been restored, clinics and hospitals, schools, kindergartens are being restored.
All this requires huge funds. Once again, thank you all so much for your help and support! May what you do come back to you many times more!
After the Russian terrorist occupation troops were driven out of the cities, almost everything was destroyed in these cities - roads, communications, electric lines, lines for delivering water and gas to residential buildings and utilities, ....
You can google and find original photos of cities right after the liberation, and now. Roads have been restored. The supply of water, heating, gas is being restored. Power lines, railway interchanges and tracks have been restored, clinics and hospitals, schools, kindergartens are being restored.
All this requires huge funds. Once again, thank you all so much for your help and support! May what you do come back to you many times more!
Well.. tens of thousands of people have lost their lives already. Now nothing can be done for them. But at least some of the damaged infrastructure can be rebuilt. It is going to be a huge task, as I read that already losses amount to hundreds of billions of USD. The government needs to prioritize some sectors over the other, since they won't get funds for complete restoration. Maybe healthcare, education and transport sectors need to be put on priority. Also, the government needs to make sure that the fund allocation is not done in a biased manner and all the regions should receive equal amounts.
40 billion is a wild amount of money. I mean maybe USA doesn't realize this because they have like 30 trillion dollars in debt, and that is why they do not realize what they are doing. But at the same time, we are talking about a thing where 40 billion dollars is a huge huge huge amount for many other nations.
My nation could literally get out of debt trouble if we had 40 billion dollars, we are a poor nation and 40 billion dollars is enough to make us not a poor nation anymore. This is why Ukraine getting this amount is a big deal, they would be able to both defend, and also rebuild with that kind of money and would be so much help for them.
My nation could literally get out of debt trouble if we had 40 billion dollars, we are a poor nation and 40 billion dollars is enough to make us not a poor nation anymore. This is why Ukraine getting this amount is a big deal, they would be able to both defend, and also rebuild with that kind of money and would be so much help for them.
I hope they use the money from this donation to build their country,,, not to fund war with humanitarian donations.
You seem either confused, either implying some odd propaganda.
They have to defend/keep their country first, isn't it? Rebuilding the country makes sense only after the war is over.
But the way, from what I see on the website, the initiative not only accepts cryptos, but also allows dedicating a donation to a certain direction, which means that it's unlikely that money donated to, say, medical aid, would be used for military purposes.
As a resident of Ukraine, I can tell you where this money goes. On the example of the terribly affected suburbs of Kyiv - Irpen and Bucha.
After the Russian terrorist occupation troops were driven out of the cities, almost everything was destroyed in these cities - roads, communications, electric lines, lines for delivering water and gas to residential buildings and utilities, ....
You can google and find original photos of cities right after the liberation, and now. Roads have been restored. The supply of water, heating, gas is being restored. Power lines, railway interchanges and tracks have been restored, clinics and hospitals, schools, kindergartens are being restored.
All this requires huge funds. Once again, thank you all so much for your help and support! May what you do come back to you many times more!
The food crisis have hit the world. Ukraine and Russia being the leaders in wheat exports into war have caused the lack of supply in the global market. For some time period India exported wheat to all global destinations and now India have stopped the export. Likewise more and more crisis is happening around, and war can give an end to all these. Before making an end to the war, rebuilding a nation is like destructing the donations received from support around the world.
I hope they use the money from this donation to build their country,,, not to fund war with humanitarian donations.
You seem either confused, either implying some odd propaganda.
They have to defend/keep their country first, isn't it? Rebuilding the country makes sense only after the war is over.
But the way, from what I see on the website, the initiative not only accepts cryptos, but also allows dedicating a donation to a certain direction, which means that it's unlikely that money donated to, say, medical aid, would be used for military purposes.
Seem like every country has their agenda and hardly anyone is really really thinking about Ukraine. They suffer a lot and they will suffer so much in coming days.
I hope they use the money from this donation to build their country,,, not to fund war with humanitarian donations.
You seem either confused, either implying some odd propaganda.
They have to defend/keep their country first, isn't it? Rebuilding the country makes sense only after the war is over.
But the way, from what I see on the website, the initiative not only accepts cryptos, but also allows dedicating a donation to a certain direction, which means that it's unlikely that money donated to, say, medical aid, would be used for military purposes.
Their enemy is a nation hated by many, we are seeing Saudis killing Yemeni people, or Chinese to kill Uyghur people all the time, but neither the recipient nor the attack fits the bill.
Different context, its not an invasion to another country
As much as I don't want to agree with el kaka22, I guess there's some truth in it; there must be some racial and other related factors that will make the fund raising in Ukraine probably more successful than the ones done in behalf of Afghanistan, for example, or Yemen or Somalia or Syria. The mere fact that the country in peril here is in Europe must be a large factor. Whether we like it or not, it is imaginable, even acceptable to a certain extent, for a war or invasion to happen in Asia or in Africa but not in Europe. You wouldn't be as shocked if Iraq is invaded by the US as when Ukraine is invaded by Russia.
Anyway, whatever the context here or however it is called, this is invasion.
I suspect ukraine may soon have no shortage of funding.
Strangely enough the european union appears completely absent from the conflict.
Have not seen many war updates. Everything is being kept quiet. Russia appears to be refining its hypersonic missile technology under real world conditions.
The logistics of russian T-90 tanks costing $1.2 million versus switchblade drones costing $6,000 doesn't appear the best scenario for russia.
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U.S. House passes $40 billion Ukraine package to provide military, humanitarian aid
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/house-passes-40-billion-ukraine-package-to-provide-military-humanitarian-aid.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/house-passes-40-billion-ukraine-package-to-provide-military-humanitarian-aid.html
Strangely enough the european union appears completely absent from the conflict.
Have not seen many war updates. Everything is being kept quiet. Russia appears to be refining its hypersonic missile technology under real world conditions.
The logistics of russian T-90 tanks costing $1.2 million versus switchblade drones costing $6,000 doesn't appear the best scenario for russia.
This is very true, seems that they can get a lot of donations around the globe not only the US. Just look at the initial stage of war, money was pouring via crypto donations to Ukraine. So no wonder, they will be receiving more donations during and after this war. The sympathy is on them not on Russia. So yes, I think, Ukraine can easily recover after this war is over. There are so many countries and organizations that are willing to help.
But this indirect US _Russia war will be game changer - because Putin will now be only taking money in Ruble. If the petrodollar deals break then America will be in trouble too.
There's no documentations what does they do with the previous fundraising, but based on the address 357a3So9CbsNfBBgFYACGvxxS6tMaDoa1P they already spend almost the funds (465 BTC or $14 Million+ with the current rate). But I think it's understandable since they're still struggling with their current conditions, it's unethical to ask them about the funds used for.
There must be a scammer which want to take advantage with this situation, but I didn't heard any news until now, perhaps the victim didn't publish it.
With USA sending SO much, I do not think that these donations really matter as much as we think it does. They had a total of 100+ million from what they claim came from crypto world, don't know exactly where and which coin, but it is clear that they are getting hundreds of times more from nations directly. Just USA is 400+ times bigger than what the regular retail investor in crypto paid for. This is understandable, because the all of crypto market cap is not even 10% of what USA GDP is or their debt is.There must be a scammer which want to take advantage with this situation, but I didn't heard any news until now, perhaps the victim didn't publish it.
This shows that we are still small and have a room for growth as well. Ukraine will do fine financially, it is retaking the lands they lost that will take a while.
...Sometimes I am questioning myself - are all these funds legit, or someone is using situation in Ukraine to get rich ?
Anyone who wants to make a donation for Ukraine should independently conduct a small study so that the funds sent get to their destination. There are many legal foundations in Ukraine that collect donations for various charitable purposes. In addition to what is indicated in the starting post, I can add the official website of "Aid For Ukraine" https://donate.thedigital.gov.ua/
What about other funds, that were created previously? They raise funds to help Ukraine also. And they are also legit.
Sometimes I am questioning myself - are all these funds legit, or someone is using situation in Ukraine to get rich ?
There's no documentations what does they do with the previous fundraising, but based on the address 357a3So9CbsNfBBgFYACGvxxS6tMaDoa1P they already spend almost the funds (465 BTC or $14 Million+ with the current rate). But I think it's understandable since they're still struggling with their current conditions, it's unethical to ask them about the funds used for. Sometimes I am questioning myself - are all these funds legit, or someone is using situation in Ukraine to get rich ?
There must be a scammer which want to take advantage with this situation, but I didn't heard any news until now, perhaps the victim didn't publish it.
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