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Topic: U.N. Says ISIS Fatwa Orders ALL Women In Mosul For Female Genital Mutilation - page 2. (Read 3587 times)

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Absolutely anything that happens is Obama's fault!





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Now this is the part I don't get. I understand Obama is trying to pressure the Iraqi government to be more inclusive. Political druthers, I don't have a problem with that. But what I don't understand, is why Obama would pass up such a golden opportunity to attack and virtually eliminate a large contingent of these Islamic fanatics when he has absolutely no problem with attacking these same fanatics in other parts of the world and more often than not, when civilians are at risk.

Obviously, Obama's political druthers haven't worked out while the situation in Iraq has become even worse with these same Islaimc fanatics now entrenched, the same Islamic fanatics Obama could have destroyed almost from the get-go. An all-out attack on these fanatics, in the middle of the desert, no civilians around and almost a guaranteed chance of success. And Obama passed on it for what appears to be...political druthers.

A case of poor judgement...or just late to the dance again?
As if you wouldn't have lambasted Obama for making strikes on these sites if he'd agreed to it. It is not Obama's fault that every time someone looks at an Iraqi solder sternly, they drop their weapon, strip out of their uniform and run away. I know that for you, absolutely anything that happens is Obama's fault, but it's just not true.
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Now this is the part I don't get. I understand Obama is trying to pressure the Iraqi government to be more inclusive. Political druthers, I don't have a problem with that. But what I don't understand, is why Obama would pass up such a golden opportunity to attack and virtually eliminate a large contingent of these Islamic fanatics when he has absolutely no problem with attacking these same fanatics in other parts of the world and more often than not, when civilians are at risk.

Obviously, Obama's political druthers haven't worked out while the situation in Iraq has become even worse with these same Islaimc fanatics now entrenched, the same Islamic fanatics Obama could have destroyed almost from the get-go. An all-out attack on these fanatics, in the middle of the desert, no civilians around and almost a guaranteed chance of success. And Obama passed on it for what appears to be...political druthers.

A case of poor judgement...or just late to the dance again?
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I think that this is a hoax. The ISIS / ISIL is composed of fighters from all around the world, including regions where the Female Genital Mutilation is practiced (such as Somalia, Egypt and Sudan), as well as those from regions where it is not practiced (such as Chechenya and Uzbekistan). Since the latter group is having a majority, this will never be carried out.
The 'religion of peace' strikes again.  And there you have it.  Bush created ISIS. What is islam doing to stop ISIS from murdering, rioting and now mutilation?  
What is Islam doing to stop it?

Those who are doing nothing agree with it which makes them no different…

Like you may have a problem with the tactics of the progressives, but you really don't have a problem with the outcome so you ignore the tactics of the progressives which makes you no different…

Like if a friend of yours commits a crime and you do nothing to stop them, you are just as guilty… It is simple
What is Islam supposed to do to stop it? We're not talking about a friend committing a crime. Islam is a global religion, and you have a few factions who commit these horrible acts. Most of the Muslim communities condemn ISIS and the things they do, but you blame them because what - they're not all getting on planes to Iraq to fight ISIS directly? Do you know just how stupid you sound? Do you care?
Unfortunately, these women are on their own and as callous as it sounds, the spoils of war pretty much define their dilemma.

One thing that puzzles me. Several months ago, when ISIS was first penetrating into Iraq, they set up staging areas in the desert in order to begin their attacks on these Iraqi cities. The Iraqi government was aware of this and secretly asked Obama to attack these ISIS staging areas, located in the desert and far from civilian population. Obama refused their request.
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I think that this is a hoax. The ISIS / ISIL is composed of fighters from all around the world, including regions where the Female Genital Mutilation is practiced (such as Somalia, Egypt and Sudan), as well as those from regions where it is not practiced (such as Chechenya and Uzbekistan). Since the latter group is having a majority, this will never be carried out.

I pray allah it is a hoax and so are all my muslim friends. The mutilation of little girls or grown women is but a deviation of what is written... We will make our voice one, all over the world, to bring a stop to this barbaric idea, real or not.

No Clitoris! No justice! No Peace!




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I think that this is a hoax. The ISIS / ISIL is composed of fighters from all around the world, including regions where the Female Genital Mutilation is practiced (such as Somalia, Egypt and Sudan), as well as those from regions where it is not practiced (such as Chechenya and Uzbekistan). Since the latter group is having a majority, this will never be carried out.
The 'religion of peace' strikes again.  And there you have it.  Bush created ISIS. What is islam doing to stop ISIS from murdering, rioting and now mutilation?  
What is Islam doing to stop it?

Those who are doing nothing agree with it which makes them no different…

Like you may have a problem with the tactics of the progressives, but you really don't have a problem with the outcome so you ignore the tactics of the progressives which makes you no different…

Like if a friend of yours commits a crime and you do nothing to stop them, you are just as guilty… It is simple
What is Islam supposed to do to stop it? We're not talking about a friend committing a crime. Islam is a global religion, and you have a few factions who commit these horrible acts. Most of the Muslim communities condemn ISIS and the things they do, but you blame them because what - they're not all getting on planes to Iraq to fight ISIS directly? Do you know just how stupid you sound? Do you care?
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.... extremism is not related to a religion per say but to the people that are ready to use anything that can serve their cause. And btw the practive mentioned above has nothing to with Islam it's more of a rite in certain regions ...

I think when we are talking about a FATWA, well, you know what?

It might just have something to do with ISLAM.

Despite popular claims, there is not one Islam, but different versions of it. Depending on which version has the most power in the area, it is either obligatory, preferred or forbidden. So yes, the practice has a lot to do with Islam.

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There are dichotomous differences of opinion among Sunni scholars in regards to female genital cutting. These differences of opinion range from forbidden to obligatory. The Shafi'i and Hanbali schools of Islamic jurisprudence consider circumcision to be obligatory for both males and females, while the Hanafi and Maliki schools of Islamic jurisprudence consider circumcision to be Sunnah (preferred) for both males and females
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http://fgcdailynews.blogspot.com/2010/09/female-genital-mutilation-us.html
Friday, September 10, 2010
Female genital mutilation: US pediatricians withdraw outrageous proposal

September 10, 2010
The Freethinker

THE American Academy of Pediatrics has reversed its recent proposal that doctors be given permission to perform a ceremonial pinprick or nick on a girl’s clitoris if it would keep their families from sending them overseas for a full circumcision.


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Okay Michelle Obama, show what your worth! Will you stand up and fight for millions of women who are being ravaged by misogyny? Or will you be petulant and weak, just like your husband?
Every time you talk about ISIS, I ask the same thing -  what do you think we should be doing about them that we are not? Do you want us to go to war again?  I find ISIS to be deplorable in the things they do. But we created this problem in Iraq when we invaded under false pretenses and deposed the stable - albeit tyrannical - government there.  Under Saddam Hussein's government, women had a hell of a lot more rights than they have under the radical Islamic faction called ISIS. Stop blaming liberals for the mess your President created.
And while the US military was there implementing a democratic government to represent the human rights of all iraqis the women in iraq were much better off than after obama got his butt thrown out without a status of forces agreement that bush/rice had already brokered. But just look the other way dd and ignore the violence because pressure from you lefties helped obama make the decision to just walk away and leave those people vulnerable to the likes of the barbaric muslims that formed isis. And its thanks to fricken praise allah and the religion of peace liberals like you that AMA pediatricians in the US tried to get the practice implemented in the US. You know, so women in America could be properly marked for male ownership.
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Okay Michelle Obama, show what your worth! Will you stand up and fight for millions of women who are being ravaged by misogyny? Or will you be petulant and weak, just like your husband?
Every time you talk about ISIS, I ask the same thing -  what do you think we should be doing about them that we are not? Do you want us to go to war again?  I find ISIS to be deplorable in the things they do. But we created this problem in Iraq when we invaded under false pretenses and deposed the stable - albeit tyrannical - government there.  Under Saddam Hussein's government, women had a hell of a lot more rights than they have under the radical Islamic faction called ISIS. Stop blaming liberals for the mess your President created.
We have had troops in Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy, etc., for 60+ years to keep the peace, and it has worked. Whether we should have gone into Iraq or not is irrelevant. We did go in, and we won. If Obama had kept a similar contingency force there, this would not be happening, but he's both incompetent and politically minded, so he refused to listen to his military leaders and diplomats who warned him that this would happen.

Blaming Bush is a 'two wrongs make a right' logical fallacy, and a red herring. The decision to leave and pull out all the troops was Obama's and Obama's alone, so he is solely responsible for the consequences of his decision to leave Iraq unprotected.
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I think that this is a hoax. The ISIS / ISIL is composed of fighters from all around the world, including regions where the Female Genital Mutilation is practiced (such as Somalia, Egypt and Sudan), as well as those from regions where it is not practiced (such as Chechenya and Uzbekistan). Since the latter group is having a majority, this will never be carried out.
The 'religion of peace' strikes again.  And there you have it.  Bush created ISIS. What is islam doing to stop ISIS from murdering, rioting and now mutilation?  
What is Islam doing to stop it?

Those who are doing nothing agree with it which makes them no different…

Like you may have a problem with the tactics of the progressives, but you really don't have a problem with the outcome so you ignore the tactics of the progressives which makes you no different…

Like if a friend of yours commits a crime and you do nothing to stop them, you are just as guilty… It is simple
legendary
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.... extremism is not related to a religion per say but to the people that are ready to use anything that can serve their cause. And btw the practive mentioned above has nothing to with Islam it's more of a rite in certain regions ...

I think when we are talking about a FATWA, well, you know what?

It might just have something to do with ISLAM.
sr. member
Activity: 350
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I think that this is a hoax. The ISIS / ISIL is composed of fighters from all around the world, including regions where the Female Genital Mutilation is practiced (such as Somalia, Egypt and Sudan), as well as those from regions where it is not practiced (such as Chechenya and Uzbekistan). Since the latter group is having a majority, this will never be carried out.
The 'religion of peace' strikes again.  And there you have it.  Bush created ISIS. What is islam doing to stop ISIS from murdering, rioting and now mutilation?  
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Okay Michelle Obama, show what your worth! Will you stand up and fight for millions of women who are being ravaged by misogyny? Or will you be petulant and weak, just like your husband?
Every time you talk about ISIS, I ask the same thing -  what do you think we should be doing about them that we are not? Do you want us to go to war again?  I find ISIS to be deplorable in the things they do. But we created this problem in Iraq when we invaded under false pretenses and deposed the stable - albeit tyrannical - government there.  Under Saddam Hussein's government, women had a hell of a lot more rights than they have under the radical Islamic faction called ISIS. Stop blaming liberals for the mess your President created.
legendary
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I think that this is a hoax. The ISIS / ISIL is composed of fighters from all around the world, including regions where the Female Genital Mutilation is practiced (such as Somalia, Egypt and Sudan), as well as those from regions where it is not practiced (such as Chechenya and Uzbekistan). Since the latter group is having a majority, this will never be carried out.
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Not to belittle people that follow a faith by the way. Come on though, stop killing people!! Although it is a good way of reducing the population of Earth, soon we'll hit 8 billion and then we're all boned, religious or not!!
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The al-Qaeda-Inspired Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has ordered all girls and women between the ages of 11 and 46 in and around Iraq’s northern city of Mosul to undergo female genital mutilation, the United Nations said on Thursday.

“This is not the will of Iraqi people, or the women of Iraq in these vulnerable areas covered by the terrorists,” she added.


There is no logical reason for genital mutilation, it just demonstrates there are many retards on the world.
Ironically it is in Iraq, "democracy yeah".. I think a cultural revolution is needed in Iraq.
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Okay Michelle Obama, show what your worth! Will you stand up and fight for millions of women who are being ravaged by misogyny? Or will you be petulant and weak, just like your husband?
No Obama is busy with golf and supporting Israel in killing Palestinians, who cares about the suffering of innocent people .....
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Okay Michelle Obama, show what your worth! Will you stand up and fight for millions of women who are being ravaged by misogyny? Or will you be petulant and weak, just like your husband?
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How far has Islam now proven to be still a dark age religion? How far must it go to say we are a dark age religion ? Very strange. Most of ISIS fighters don't come from countries where FGM is practised (Sudan, Somalia) or is it anything to do with Islam. It seems like a move to antagonise the West especially after FGM has become headline news.
Could ISIS be playing a 'double agent' role?
there are about 2 billions Muslims in the world, Isis group is formed by what a couple of thousands of persons that were fighting in Syria, You are generalizing way to much, and extremism is not related to a religion per say but to the people that are ready to use anything that can serve their cause. And btw the practive mentioned above has nothing to with Islam it's more of a rite in certain regions

As for ISIS or at least their fighters, they were trained and armed by the western world.....déjà vu ?
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