Unacceptable attitudes from new project teams

tycsols

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Quote from: Byakuga on October 22, 2020, 12:58:52 PM

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't, top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I have also seen campaigns that were very successful and the projects were ablemto raise the target funds in the assigned period of time but the shocking part is that still those projects do not want to pay hunters and for that they try to delay distribution, announce swaps, introduce reward claim forms, introduce kyc requirements plus multiple other tactics to reduce the final number of bounty reward.
I have missed out on rewards due to these gimmicks in the past so i know how bad it feels and obviously it should be stopped.

davinchi

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Quote from: iTradeChips on November 04, 2020, 04:47:33 AM

Quote from: BTCappu on November 04, 2020, 04:37:19 AM

Maybe it would be best if people wise up and abandon bounty managers that don’t ask for an escrow upfront before a project. Some of them are not interested in the money that will paid to bounty hunters, they are just interested in their own money, so how about we just boycott them so that they will know that without bounty hunters there is no business for them as bounty managers.

Hence, if they want to wise up, we wise up for them and do the necessary thing, that way they will give it a thought and change to asking for escrows.

That is a good idea, but I am not sure if that will work as there are many bounty hunters that would choose to work rather than put their principles first. Many of the bounty hunters are those who are like workers and are not rich enough to sustain their money making operations in cryptocurrency. So they join and join until they get the right one and be paid the right amount. We can choose to boycott the bounty managers who do not force escrow to companies but these companies will just find another bounty manager to their liking. Such is the deregulated nature of cryptocurrencies. Live with it.

That is the only way we could make this work. If enough of us stop working with bounty managers who do not ask for escrow, or just apply a lot more towards ones that have escrow, we could force bounty managers hand. However we are in a situation where people let alone care about escrow in a bounty manager, do not mind applying for bounties that do not even have a manager, sometimes projects start their own bounty campaign and they only care about that so they end up with basically nothing at all.

I do not really understand why they would do that because at the end of the day if a project is doing their own bounty that means they scared away from paying a bounty manager which shouldn't really be a lot of money if you ask me, and if they fail to do that, they won't be paying you neither.

Winscosinally

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Another good solution is to follow special bounty managers, few still have some love for their bounty hunters and community, they will go any lent to make sure their bounty hunters get paid as promised, bubbalex my eye is on you on this one, Hhampuz is another good one too

Winscosinally

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I'm very familiar with how teams can be so mean after bounty ends, sometimes I felt like I'm been used for nothing, Escrow can actually works but believe me, not all projects will accept this, even projects that have distribution date on their bounty thread change their own rules after bounty ends, we can't do anything about this, let's just accept things as it is.

aemma

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Truth be told, it is an unacceptable attitude but what can anyone do? Because at every instance they will draw you back to the rules and regulations guiding the bounty which you a bounty hunter agreed to before participating. And one thing about rules is that, sometimes it favours only the person that set the rules, while the other party are left in the dark; what I meant is this, a team will delay reward and also quote the rules that they can change the distribution and so on, and the same team will still go ahead to pay deaf ears to hunters thus refusing to pay, refusing to give a date for distribution, reducing the rewards terribly and also blocking the hunters from their groups. So you can see, they set the rules, they implement it and also break it just to suit them.
So that brings us to one solution, escrow, if all bounty managers can make it compulsory to escrow there is a higher chance that they team won't at least refuse to pay; therefore Yes, escrow is needed.

jademaxsuy

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This has been an issue and it did not only happen to new projects but to other older projects as well. There is no action being made but only a few system that has been added and implemented here in tge forum like the trust system. If you are promoting or managing a scam project then you will get tag or something. The best thing we could do is to stop doing bounty hunting so that it will not be a waste of time and resources promoting projects that are not paying. You can join a project but it should be make sure that they are really paying.

shoreno

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Quote from: bakasabo on November 04, 2020, 07:23:58 AM

Quote from: Stanlo on November 04, 2020, 07:07:32 AM

Why escrow? Just find good bounty managers and follow them, you will always get paid no matter what, I can still vouch for bounty managers like btcltcdigger, bubbalex, bounty detective and Hhampuz, also don't forget to do research on the projects first, this will make you notice the projects that have the best potential among the rest

I follow almost every campaign under mentioned bounty managers and yes, I receive bounty rewards. But I can not say that these rewards always have a value. I remember that not all bounty detective campaigns are distributed, bounty projects under btcltcdigger managements usually skip distribution than pay, bubbalex managed campaign that did not distribute and other campaigns tokens cost almost zero.

thats an honest feedback . now hunters will know and not assume too much from the good managers but that was only in the case of bounty campaigns because for the non bounty based campaigns some of those know managers like Hhampuz will always escrow the funds before starting . he ( @Stanlo ) said that good bounty managers still pay no matter what , that includes tokens with less value but except to those pending and unpayed tokens . i think scams are really inevitable no matter how good the managers handling the bounties are

Spaffin

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It turns out that in fact each Bounty hunter on his own and conditionally fulfills the conditions of the Bounty Company, while adhering to the rules of the forum. And thus the Bounty Hunters sell their services to anyone who offers at least some kind of reward, and this reward is not always valuable. If, for example, there was a union of Hunters, then bounty companies and bounty hunters would fulfill all the assigned tasks, and escrow would be the main condition for project teams that conduct bounty companies. In this case, one could even influence the cost of the Hunters' work.

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Quote from: Byakuga on October 22, 2020, 12:58:52 PM

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't, top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I think some of the project teams are taking it for granted. They feel that they don't need that bounty hunters anymore after they have successfully raised money.
But I must say that not all are like that as they lose their trust if they fall back on their words.

bakasabo

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Quote from: Stanlo on November 04, 2020, 07:07:32 AM

Why escrow? Just find good bounty managers and follow them, you will always get paid no matter what, I can still vouch for bounty managers like btcltcdigger, bubbalex, bounty detective and Hhampuz, also don't forget to do research on the projects first, this will make you notice the projects that have the best potential among the rest

I follow almost every campaign under mentioned bounty managers and yes, I receive bounty rewards. But I can not say that these rewards always have a value. I remember that not all bounty detective campaigns are distributed, bounty projects under btcltcdigger managements usually skip distribution than pay, bubbalex managed campaign that did not distribute and other campaigns tokens cost almost zero.

Stanlo

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Why escrow? Just find good bounty managers and follow them, you will always get paid no matter what, I can still vouch for bounty managers like btcltcdigger, bubbalex, bounty detective and Hhampuz, also don't forget to do research on the projects first, this will make you notice the projects that have the best potential among the rest

friends1980

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It's good that this topic is treated once more on this forum, because this problem has existed from the very start of bounty campaigns.

At the same time, OP's making the very important and interesting suggestion of using escrows for bounty campaigns.

OP, next time if you know an escrow would be necessary to guarantee a trustworthy campaign, I'd suggest you to warn people from the very start instead of participating and complaining when it's too late.

Futher on, if the team is known, contact a lawyer and sue them.

jessyj48

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Quote from: Byakuga on October 22, 2020, 12:58:52 PM

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't, top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

We don't need to beg anybody because escrow isn't the problem here, escrow only gives you the assurance of getting your coins or tokens but there are many other things affecting bounty hunters, like

1. Exchanges that the project will get listed on
2. Is the project going to have good value?
3. Will the project raise enough funds for development?

There are more reasons why your paid tokens can become useless and escrow can't fix a shit.

Davian144

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Quote from: Dondeon on November 04, 2020, 04:50:15 AM

I personally feel participating in a campaign is by choice and not by force, in as much as I would have want an escrow but we should know that we cannot impose this on any campaign manager, so I think the best thing to do is to avoid most of these campaigns, if ko one is taking part then they will have a re-think.

Obviously everyone who follows the campaign is based on their heart's desire, not the desire or coercion of others, because everyone is free to choose the campaign he likes and based on the results that we have individually analyzed, for Escrow's advice it is good but if it is not there is, then we ourselves have to determine it, keep believing in the project or even leave it.

joseyphil82

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Out of hundreds of bounty campaigns that paid every bounty hunters for their work on this forum only very few used ESCROW, now where did this leave us? Is Escrow that a must right now? Of course not, majority of new bounty projects haven't even launched their tokens yet, how will they use ESCROW??

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We can't force escrow strategy on bounty managers, it's the team choice to use escrow or not, believe me even if all reputable bounty managers on this forum start using escrow many new promising projects won't accept and there is nothing anyone can do about it, joining bounties is not a must so discussing about this doesn't count or change anything.

Escrow is a good thing in bounties, but we still have to be able to see where we are right now. Because bounties are made in general, what the general meaning is that you are free to join them or not. If you don't want your time to be wasted on taking part in a worthless bounty, you can do some research on the project first, so the chances of getting paid will at least increase.

Dondeon

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I personally feel participating in a campaign is by choice and not by force, in as much as I would have want an escrow but we should know that we cannot impose this on any campaign manager, so I think the best thing to do is to avoid most of these campaigns, if ko one is taking part then they will have a re-think.

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Quote from: BTCappu on November 04, 2020, 04:37:19 AM

Maybe it would be best if people wise up and abandon bounty managers that don’t ask for an escrow upfront before a project. Some of them are not interested in the money that will paid to bounty hunters, they are just interested in their own money, so how about we just boycott them so that they will know that without bounty hunters there is no business for them as bounty managers.

Hence, if they want to wise up, we wise up for them and do the necessary thing, that way they will give it a thought and change to asking for escrows.

That is a good idea, but I am not sure if that will work as there are many bounty hunters that would choose to work rather than put their principles first. Many of the bounty hunters are those who are like workers and are not rich enough to sustain their money making operations in cryptocurrency. So they join and join until they get the right one and be paid the right amount. We can choose to boycott the bounty managers who do not force escrow to companies but these companies will just find another bounty manager to their liking. Such is the deregulated nature of cryptocurrencies. Live with it.

BTCappu

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Maybe it would be best if people wise up and abandon bounty managers that don’t ask for an escrow upfront before a project. Some of them are not interested in the money that will paid to bounty hunters, they are just interested in their own money, so how about we just boycott them so that they will know that without bounty hunters there is no business for them as bounty managers.

Hence, if they want to wise up, we wise up for them and do the necessary thing, that way they will give it a thought and change to asking for escrows.

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i think the way bounty hunters go about it is also funny, some just jumped into some projects not clarifying things from the team. I know there are ways bounty managers can protect bounty hunters from all these issues. The issue I have with some of these managers is them not researching the project them are promoting and at the end the project ended up being a scam

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