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legendary
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December 06, 2022, 09:42:32 AM

Then how the hell did these 14-15 years old got money to gamble with? Regardless, these minors don't have that full encouragement yet to just push their gambling activity and with just a serious approach on them to apply strong restrictions, they will surely have that mindset to just follow.

Not all minors are dumb. They have that knowledge already to know what's right or wrong. It's just that they learning new things each while growing and gambling-related stuff are just around the corner. Now let's say that the said minor is showing bad habits because of gambling, it's the guardian's responsibility to take care of that thing.
it all depends on the way their parents educate or the environment in which they live, if there are many gamblers where the child lives, of course such an environment is not justified because underage children play gambling which should not be common there unless they live in a country free of gambling while in In my country, gambling like that will be prohibited and even the local police will arrest them if they see open gambling like that, let alone allowing minors to play gambling
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December 06, 2022, 09:37:31 AM
If I am not wrong every country has age restriction for gambling even though its completely legal there to gamble online or offline but the operators don't care about it on certain areas because all they need is money and laws are not that strict so they found loophole and all these things must be happening with the officials as well because of corrupted hands.

If you have the evidence and want to really stop the underage kids from gambling then all you can do is take legal actions with lawsuit.
legendary
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December 06, 2022, 09:23:06 AM
Gambling should only be allowed at an age where the person is ready to support himself and his financial needs , underage people who are still dependent on their parents and are still looking for parents consent in life matters shouldn't be allowed to participate in gambling.  They don't know what's good for them and what this gambling world is so better keep them away from this side of world .
Proper check and balance from parents end is the first thing needed for that.
Problem is lack of legitimacy to some KYC procedures in online gambling industry. Everything transaction would be done virtually ofcourse players at any age could really engage to this activity by flasifying documents. And this thing is also evident even in land based casinos. Best thing to do is to prevent them personally if you are their friend or family member; let us start atleast with that. If more people would do so then through years, this might be prevented. Emphasis as well at school would be helpful to lessen the rate of gambling addiction not only on people of right ages but especially to young ones. But quite of suggestion, what if Kyc would be done as a video? Do you guys think that would work? (well, privacy concerns would be tackled if ever).
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December 06, 2022, 08:51:10 AM
Gambling should only be allowed at an age where the person is ready to support himself and his financial needs , underage people who are still dependent on their parents and are still looking for parents consent in life matters shouldn't be allowed to participate in gambling.  They don't know what's good for them and what this gambling world is so better keep them away from this side of world .
Proper check and balance from parents end is the first thing needed for that.
hero member
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December 06, 2022, 08:44:22 AM
The reasons why gambling is not good for under age people they are still at the age making good decisions will be difficult for them.

Underage gambling should never be supported as this younglings don't know what's good for them yet, when they're old enough to make life changing decision as becoming a gambler then they can be allowed to bet. Gambling has an addictive side and when youngling are allowed to be exposed to them we might get dangerous gamblers that can steal just to have money to gamble.

We have seem how destructive gambling can be and usually the youngling are the most affected as they're yet to understand life. Underage gambling should be ban in all countries and casino should put measure in place so they can fight this as well.
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December 06, 2022, 07:56:54 AM
I remember playing pogs and different kinds of games which is some sort of gambling in a form. You are right, we cannot stop kids from discovering things such as gambling. Learning gambling at a young age is inevitable especially nowadays when kids have access to almost everything thru the internet. I would say with proper guidance and discipline from adults a kid will never go astray. I've grown up in a family of gamblers, my grandparents are heavy gamblers but with their proper guidance, I never became a problematic gambler. So parents take a huge part in how these kids grow up since there's no stopping them from discovering things.
When we are kids we are already exposed in gambling due to some of the games that we play which has an element of it and our parents didn't totally stop us from this because they think it was only just a game but they will only stop us if we are over doing it because we also have to study and go to school. This is the priority of our parents as a kid.

I think that can also be apply even if kids are playing the real thing which is gambling. Their parents can allow them but as long as they won't over do it so that they won't become a gambling addict later on which could result for some disastrous things like stealing, mental, and physical health issues. etc.
Since it is impossible to protect kids from being exposed to some gambling games then the parents need to take the initiative and explain to them why those games are not for minors and should only be practiced by them if they are adults, after all the money that is given by the parents to their kids has a completely different purpose, and as such kids should not be free to spend it in whatever they want as that money did not belonged to them in the first place.

Being responsible for taking initiative guiding your kids while they are in the process of exploring things, if you can have that open conversation
with your kids, you should explain to them the aftereffects of this activity.

You need to make sure that they will understand and they will get every point to limit them or if possible not to let them do gambling,
you still have that control while they are still young in mind.

Best thing to do if possible is to make sure to always be there, your present will avoid them to take this path.
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December 06, 2022, 06:54:05 AM
I personally started sports betting at around 16-17 ages. I remember bettinghouse (or shop whatever you call) was filled with underages. They were all making coupons to make money to eat couple of free lunches in general. They never played with high amount of money as far as I could see. I think side effects of it are bit exeggarated. Like consider a kid betting a dollar for 3 matches to win 25 dollars. Its nothing in terms of amount. It will not influence your life.
Many stores make coupons to attract children to try their luck, which is the store's income.
Unknowingly, these children already play gambling at a young age and their parents also don't complain about this because they see it as fun for their children.
And some parents even give their children extra money so they can try to buy the coupons.
And if this continues, it can cause mental problems because the children see that there is nothing wrong to do and may continue to ask their parents for money.
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December 06, 2022, 03:54:30 AM


And am just curious if this won't affect the person in times to come



Mostly the reason why they won't allow underage persons in gambling is because it can make them addicted to it, and you know that if this comes, you can't control yourself as well as you are going to do everything, no matter what just to gamble, it's sort of like doing drugs. Also, there are a lot of reasons why they are going to gamble. First, they were just told by their parents to bet on this as a task for them, and second, they have friends who will tell them to bet since they can earn money on it.
The question stands about what is the effect of younger ages addiction mate  and not  why they are not allowed because even if they dont? surely people will still find ways to gamble specially youngsters that is very productive and willing to do everything about how to gamble.
so lets not blame sites instead let us blame ourselves from being addicted when we can skip from this if we only learn how to deal in gambling properly from beginning.
I personally started sports betting at around 16-17 ages. I remember bettinghouse (or shop whatever you call) was filled with underages. They were all making coupons to make money to eat couple of free lunches in general. They never played with high amount of money as far as I could see. I think side effects of it are bit exeggarated. Like consider a kid betting a dollar for 3 matches to win 25 dollars. Its nothing in terms of amount. It will not influence your life.
my sports betting in that age? are when we are betting in basketball or volleyball lol.
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December 06, 2022, 03:06:44 AM
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And am just curious if this won't affect the person in times to come
Other countries have restrictions for kids to gamble for a good reason.
Their brains aren't developed enough for being responsible for most decisions, especially for any financial decisions involving addictive games. Those are hard for some adults too mut they are at least legally responsible for their actions.
but the problem here is that Gambling sites cannot completely handle the situation of Under age playing because we knew that gambling is rampant nowadays and younger generation is dealing with this as they can easily fake their details and conduct playing specially in decentralized gambling platform .
maybe we should look at the parental part about this and may see what would be the good effect towards this matter.
legendary
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December 06, 2022, 01:33:22 AM
I personally started sports betting at around 16-17 ages. I remember bettinghouse (or shop whatever you call) was filled with underages. They were all making coupons to make money to eat couple of free lunches in general. They never played with high amount of money as far as I could see. I think side effects of it are bit exeggarated. Like consider a kid betting a dollar for 3 matches to win 25 dollars. Its nothing in terms of amount. It will not influence your life.
legendary
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December 05, 2022, 11:32:21 PM
Just the other day i was predicting  some games in the world cup in a betshop cause my network was bad so i can't stake online  so i decided to go to the betshop to place the bet, then to my shock i was boy aged around 14 to 15 years who came in and gave the cashier a booking code to place the bet and give him the coupon and the cashier collected and i was like isn't this too little to be involved in such acts.

I don't know where you live but where I live that doesn't happen.

Since it is impossible to protect kids from being exposed to some gambling games then the parents need to take the initiative and explain to them why those games are not for minors and should only be practiced by them if they are adults, after all the money that is given by the parents to their kids has a completely different purpose, and as such kids should not be free to spend it in whatever they want as that money did not belonged to them in the first place.

I deny the premise. It is not impossible. If you live in a place where to enter a casino or bookmaker you are asked for an ID and your visit is registered, with large fines and even jail sentences for those who skip it, the possibility of a 14 year old entering is reduced to practically 0.

Education is fine, but if you live in a country where this is not controlled and minors are allowed to enter gambling sites everywhere, even if you educate your children, there is always a risk that they will end up in a gambling site at some point.
legendary
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December 05, 2022, 09:49:15 PM
I remember playing pogs and different kinds of games which is some sort of gambling in a form. You are right, we cannot stop kids from discovering things such as gambling. Learning gambling at a young age is inevitable especially nowadays when kids have access to almost everything thru the internet. I would say with proper guidance and discipline from adults a kid will never go astray. I've grown up in a family of gamblers, my grandparents are heavy gamblers but with their proper guidance, I never became a problematic gambler. So parents take a huge part in how these kids grow up since there's no stopping them from discovering things.
When we are kids we are already exposed in gambling due to some of the games that we play which has an element of it and our parents didn't totally stop us from this because they think it was only just a game but they will only stop us if we are over doing it because we also have to study and go to school. This is the priority of our parents as a kid.

I think that can also be apply even if kids are playing the real thing which is gambling. Their parents can allow them but as long as they won't over do it so that they won't become a gambling addict later on which could result for some disastrous things like stealing, mental, and physical health issues. etc.
Since it is impossible to protect kids from being exposed to some gambling games then the parents need to take the initiative and explain to them why those games are not for minors and should only be practiced by them if they are adults, after all the money that is given by the parents to their kids has a completely different purpose, and as such kids should not be free to spend it in whatever they want as that money did not belonged to them in the first place.
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December 05, 2022, 06:55:14 AM
Not all minors are dumb. They have that knowledge already to know what's right or wrong. It's just that they learning new things each while growing and gambling-related stuff are just around the corner.
I agree, they've got the knowledge and it's not just an accident that they fell into the gambling houses or casinos. They're even smarter these days with the help of technology.
Today's underage children are smarter than children for decades because their food intake is better than before, triggering better brain development as well. In learning something, they tend to be able to accept it more quickly than previous children. And with the help of technology makes them well developed and better teaches them good things.

Now let's say that the said minor is showing bad habits because of gambling, it's the guardian's responsibility to take care of that thing.
The sad thing about this is that the guardian is doing the best but still not enough to guard the kid because of being hard-headed. This is mostly a parental problem but if the kid is in a bad community and got bad influence in the circle of friends, that's hard to deal with.
The most common problem faced is parents who are too busy with their activities and do not supervise their children properly. They think that by giving what their child asks for, they can solve the problem. But that only sometimes works because, in that way, children feel they can do something different from other children. This is what parents need to realize because, with today's technological developments, parents also need to learn more to accompany their children.
sr. member
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December 05, 2022, 05:26:22 AM
I remember playing pogs and different kinds of games which is some sort of gambling in a form. You are right, we cannot stop kids from discovering things such as gambling. Learning gambling at a young age is inevitable especially nowadays when kids have access to almost everything thru the internet. I would say with proper guidance and discipline from adults a kid will never go astray. I've grown up in a family of gamblers, my grandparents are heavy gamblers but with their proper guidance, I never became a problematic gambler. So parents take a huge part in how these kids grow up since there's no stopping them from discovering things.
When we are kids we are already exposed in gambling due to some of the games that we play which has an element of it and our parents didn't totally stop us from this because they think it was only just a game but they will only stop us if we are over doing it because we also have to study and go to school. This is the priority of our parents as a kid.

I think that can also be apply even if kids are playing the real thing which is gambling. Their parents can allow them but as long as they won't over do it so that they won't become a gambling addict later on which could result for some disastrous things like stealing, mental, and physical health issues. etc.
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December 05, 2022, 04:07:18 AM
.....then to my shock i was boy aged around 14 to 15 years who came in and gave the cashier a booking code to place the bet and give him the coupon and the cashier collected and i was like isn't this too little to be involved in such acts.
There are countries whose legal age is 16 and there may be others with lower number as their age of consent. I doubt the one or two-year age gap won't really be that big of a factor when we talk about the "side effects" of gambling addiction at an early age.


Our government is also pushing this legal age due to incidents involving minors, mostly 17 years old. It has really good aspects to have this 16- to 17-year-old legal age. At this generation's age, 16 to 17, people are more mature than they were in my time, and they are more curious about things that we parents can't stop.
Mostly, those side effects greatly affect those teens, as that is where they start learning what is really in the world, and this is also the time that teens get curious, which is where the addiction starts. 
After seeing how young people grow big and misbehave this time around, I concluded that God created another generation from the year 2000. If you look at this teenagers you think that they know things as they have grow. but I took out my time to call few of them and interviewed them and I discovered that they don't have any experience of life. There is little or even nothing in their head about life and that is why I cry for them because they are heading to doom and some of their parents do not take responsibility, they allowed society to train their kids any how the kids meet the society
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December 05, 2022, 03:37:13 AM
Not all minors are dumb. They have that knowledge already to know what's right or wrong. It's just that they learning new things each while growing and gambling-related stuff are just around the corner.
I agree, they've got the knowledge and it's not just an accident that they fell into the gambling houses or casinos. They're even smarter these days with the help of technology.

Now let's say that the said minor is showing bad habits because of gambling, it's the guardian's responsibility to take care of that thing.
The sad thing about this is that the guardian is doing the best but still not enough to guard the kid because of being hard-headed. This is mostly a parental problem but if the kid is in a bad community and got bad influence in the circle of friends, that's hard to deal with.
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December 05, 2022, 01:06:21 AM

Then how the hell did these 14-15 years old got money to gamble with? Regardless, these minors don't have that full encouragement yet to just push their gambling activity and with just a serious approach on them to apply strong restrictions, they will surely have that mindset to just follow.

Not all minors are dumb. They have that knowledge already to know what's right or wrong. It's just that they learning new things each while growing and gambling-related stuff are just around the corner. Now let's say that the said minor is showing bad habits because of gambling, it's the guardian's responsibility to take care of that thing.
That's true. Let's not always put the blame on the gambling sites, there's also the side of lack of responsibility from the parents or guardians of these underage kids.
Although, in the case of OP's story about the cashier making it possible for the kids to gamble is the gambling platform's mistake.
They could be sued for that.
I remember when I was still young and since I am too small, the cashier will always ask for my ID when I try to buy things that should only be allowed for 18+ age. i.e. cigarettes and alcohol. They should keep on reminding their employees about how big is at stake if ever they deal with a minor.
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December 05, 2022, 12:45:20 AM
under-age gambling.any side effects?  
Firstly gambling is a habit that becomes an addiction when not properly control and its really gonna eat you up likewise making you restless and not always focused on things you should do.

The  rate at which i see young minds and teens involved in the act of gambling in my area is really alarming and because of the poor regulatory bodies controlling the laws in my area they can't really do anything about this and its really affecting this young age.
Gambling has become a thing for everyone in my locality with out any age restrictions and am just curious If this is not going to cause side effects on this young gamblers.

Just the other day i was predicting  some games in the world cup in a betshop cause my network was bad so i can't stake online  so i decided to go to the betshop to place the bet, then to my shock i was boy aged around 14 to 15 years who came in and gave the cashier a booking code to place the bet and give him the coupon and the cashier collected and i was like isn't this too little to be involved in such acts.

And am just curious if this won't affect the person in times to come



Minors are prohibited to gambling in most countries for a reason. It isn't imposed just because. There are many good reasons as to why underage people shouldn't engage in gambling. In my perspective, here are the things to consider valid grounds to not allow minors to be gamblers.

1. They are not yet good decision makers. Those people who are considered to be underage which are years 18 below do not really possess the necessary knowledge just yet when it comes to making decisions on their own. They still have to be guided by their parents or guardians because their brains aren't mature enough to make sound judgments needed in taking an action, most especially when it comes to gambling.

2. They still need to ask for their parent's consent. Related to number 1, this will prove that the minors cannot really move on their own just yet because of maturity reasons. They have to ask permission first before they can be allowed to do something or go to something. Since gambling could possess major risks in someone's life, a person who can't consent on their own and has to ask consent on their parents shouldn't be qualified and tolerated to be gambling.

3. They don't earn money just yet. Since they are underage, they definitely are still living in the same roof with their parents. Therefore, they still have no job/s to pay for their own meal or rent, nor even spend for the things they want to like. They are still relying on the allowances being given to them by their parents or guardians. In this case, someone must not use the money allocated for a certain thing which is important just to gamble. Using your parents' hard-earned money in betting is just pure disrespect.

4. They still have no enough concept about how the world works. Minors do not have the enough knowledge about financial management, risk assessment, risk analysis, and so on. They don't know the depth of possible repercussions the moment they engage in gambling. They have the idea of entertainment, fun, and winning money, but they don't have the idea about how to responsibly take care of them.

There are still so many reasons why minors shouldn't really be gambling on their youth. Their teenage years could be their formative years which could have an impact in the way they view life and the way how they will do things. Gambling shouldn't really be honed in those years. Instead of gambling, they should be learning about risk assessment and management, and financial literacy. So when they grew up, if ever they do want to engage in gambling in their adult years, they already have the necessary information which could help them stay in the right path and avoid being addicted in gambling.
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December 05, 2022, 12:24:01 AM
.....then to my shock i was boy aged around 14 to 15 years who came in and gave the cashier a booking code to place the bet and give him the coupon and the cashier collected and i was like isn't this too little to be involved in such acts.
There are countries whose legal age is 16 and there may be others with lower number as their age of consent. I doubt the one or two-year age gap won't really be that big of a factor when we talk about the "side effects" of gambling addiction at an early age.


Our government is also pushing this legal age due to incidents involving minors, mostly 17 years old. It has really good aspects to have this 16- to 17-year-old legal age. At this generation's age, 16 to 17, people are more mature than they were in my time, and they are more curious about things that we parents can't stop.
Mostly, those side effects greatly affect those teens, as that is where they start learning what is really in the world, and this is also the time that teens get curious, which is where the addiction starts. 
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December 05, 2022, 12:03:45 AM
.....then to my shock i was boy aged around 14 to 15 years who came in and gave the cashier a booking code to place the bet and give him the coupon and the cashier collected and i was like isn't this too little to be involved in such acts.
There are countries whose legal age is 16 and there may be others with lower number as their age of consent. I doubt the one or two-year age gap would really be that big of a factor when we talk about the "side effects" of gambling addiction at an early age.
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