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September 20, 2013, 09:14:57 PM
#12
I did a lot of research on this a while back.

You can actually buy mineral oil cooling rigs online.

The problem with cooling with oil is that oil doesn't absorb heat as readily as water or the cooling liquid specifically designed for PC cooling.

Also, it takes a very strong pump to circulate oil through a heat exchanger -- you can't just use a pump designed for water, or if you are able to the pump will have a very short useful life.

Next to cryogenic cooling, oil cooling is probably the most expensive and troublesome type of cooling you can use.
sr. member
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September 20, 2013, 05:43:51 AM
#11
One of my friends has his pc submerged in oil. Took all the fans out and it works like a charm, never reaching more than 40 degrees centigrade.
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Mining for the hell of it.
September 20, 2013, 04:07:04 AM
#10
you can find Mineral oil at your local drug store. Although the counter clerk may give you an odd look due to i think that stuff is used to "clean you out"...
legendary
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September 20, 2013, 04:04:38 AM
#9
Cooking oil is a very bad idea. It won't last long when exposed to heat not to mention the smell. Mineral oil is the only way to go. The 3M solution is even more expensive than mineral oil.

Mineral oil is better if you can find it at a reasonable price, but its not because its cooking oil that you need to cook it. When pumping it through a radiator it should be easy to keep the oil below ~40C or so, and at those temps and properly sealed vegetable oil should last longer than your asic will be profitable. Even if it goes rancid at some point, it costs next to nothing to replace it. You could probably even "recycle" it by putting it in your diesel car.
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September 20, 2013, 03:40:51 AM
#8
I was playing with the idea of an oil tank for blades, but it is completely unnecessary.

I had the resources to create a prototype of it (actually 2), but things move so quick in the BTC world you would regret any additional expense to your mining operation.

Oil submerging is quite good though in terms of cooling, but have some downsides too:

1.) A tank filled with oil and HW is very heavy so not convenient to move if needed. (my prototype weights around 30kgs+ filled up, including pumps and all the other HW)

2.) Maintenance can be quite messy

3.) It's expensive.

4.) If a pump fails the HW can literally fry and get damaged due to no circulation.





Oil is not so expensive as you use cooking oil instead of Mineral one.
If using Intel(R), overheat can be down, can be up after temperature decreases.

P.S
There is a more efficient method which has been using for decades, Fluoride solution by 3M. Started from military Radars to a known supercomputer then trimmed called Novec 7100. I have contacted with 3M, a key person has asked me if I am ready, the desired wattage, I said Ready, Like to cooldown 1300W being for Multi-purpose (Including bitcoin). Although the Novec solution can be more expensive than Oil Cooling, the messy cleaning is completely eliminated, no need to care about the Pump and radiators.

Cooking oil is a very bad idea. It won't last long when exposed to heat not to mention the smell. Mineral oil is the only way to go. The 3M solution is even more expensive than mineral oil.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Firing it up
September 20, 2013, 12:52:40 AM
#7
I was playing with the idea of an oil tank for blades, but it is completely unnecessary.

I had the resources to create a prototype of it (actually 2), but things move so quick in the BTC world you would regret any additional expense to your mining operation.

Oil submerging is quite good though in terms of cooling, but have some downsides too:

1.) A tank filled with oil and HW is very heavy so not convenient to move if needed. (my prototype weights around 30kgs+ filled up, including pumps and all the other HW)

2.) Maintenance can be quite messy

3.) It's expensive.

4.) If a pump fails the HW can literally fry and get damaged due to no circulation.





Oil is not so expensive as you use cooking oil instead of Mineral one.
If using Intel(R), overheat can be down, can be up after temperature decreases.

P.S
There is a more efficient method which has been using for decades, Fluoride solution by 3M. Started from military Radars to a known supercomputer then trimmed called Novec 7100. I have contacted with 3M, a key person has asked me if I am ready, the desired wattage, I said Ready, Like to cooldown 1300W being for Multi-purpose (Including bitcoin). Although the Novec solution can be more expensive than Oil Cooling, the messy cleaning is completely eliminated, no need to care about the Pump and radiators.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 1013
September 19, 2013, 04:50:20 AM
#6
I was playing with the idea of an oil tank for blades, but it is completely unnecessary.

I had the resources to create a prototype of it (actually 2), but things move so quick in the BTC world you would regret any additional expense to your mining operation.

Oil submerging is quite good though in terms of cooling, but have some downsides too:

1.) A tank filled with oil and HW is very heavy so not convenient to move if needed. (my prototype weights around 30kgs+ filled up, including pumps and all the other HW)

2.) Maintenance can be quite messy

3.) It's expensive.

4.) If a pump fails the HW can literally fry and get damaged due to no circulation.



hero member
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September 18, 2013, 05:26:44 AM
#5
not have to worry about the oil going rancid

Dude, you're not supposed to use cooking oil.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Firing it up
September 17, 2013, 11:11:14 PM
#4
This is pretty crazy, see for yourself! (prototype tank test with hair dryer)

http://youtu.be/h_7iOKCL-fM

not so crazy, it is just a simulation before real put in. Today, I have contacted with 3M to check if there is a not so messy method to maintain the desired as noise is the major problem. If the spent can reduce the chance to get diseased, then good.

newbie
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September 17, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
#3
Actually an external heat exchange would be really good cuz then you could have a sealed system and not have to worry about the oil going rancid or getting stuff in it...

Ideally you could vacuum seal it in a container and just have the external radiator.
sr. member
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September 17, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
#2
I've seen oil submersion before, but not with a pump and external heat exchanger.   I'm not sure how necessary that is, as the exterior of the tank has a fairly large surface area, and would radiate out a lot of heat anyway.  Something that could be calculated.
member
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Coffee makes it all better!
September 17, 2013, 03:00:44 PM
#1
This is pretty crazy, see for yourself! (prototype tank test with hair dryer)

http://youtu.be/h_7iOKCL-fM
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