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Just read abit about how it works. It doesn't really reverse people transactions(all Bitcoin transactions) on Blockchain like some made it to sound. Their system just help coin senders reverse only their transaction when receivers type codes/password meant for them wrongly(probably typing the codes wrongly multiple times will cause the reversal).
Well, it's an interesting solution to irreversible transaction "problem" in Crypto... only that it relies on third-party & centralization to achieve this.

I guess the fees for complete transaction will increase abit for the sender. And I wonder if the sender will always have to send the codes to the real recipient before transaction is possible... that will probably be better for significant/large transactions. The receivers always needing to get the codes first before receiving funds could complicate things abit for them unless the process is fully automated and quick

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I read how it works and i must say it's a cumbersome process that is not really neccessary but then again, I've seen lots of people complain about they mistakenly transfer fund to a wrong address or they transferred not the disired amount which is all due to not doing a proper cross checking before broadcasting the transaction

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Quote from: Zemomtum on July 02, 2020, 07:50:48 PM

Undo button for transactions. what if the sender made payment for a high fee and pick up by miner almost immediately or would there be e central control where the transaction will be help before processing? That will go against decentralization of course.

Worried about the miner to confirm that transaction too, I'm not fully aware of this undo button maybe there is a function where the undo button is only available for a short time, I don't want to think the obvious way of putting an undo button it is really useless and hassle at the same it. What we need is a sense of self-security, the essence of double checking everything upon sending any funds to others.

Quote from: Zemomtum on July 02, 2020, 07:50:48 PM

The only best way in my own opinion is to establish a medium of check where the amount and address are confirmed second time before the processing actually takes place. Most wallets have this feature

Or just a visible clipboard software? I haven't see any one using or recommending this, or maybe this isn't existing yet? it would be a lot of save effort.

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Meh, why not just implement a system wherein the wallet prompts the user to reenter a password and displaying the information on a dialogue box before broadcasting the transaction? Oh, I get it, it's already implemented, therefore this feature isn't really a necessity at all.

I don't get why people using bitcoin need to have this feature. One, knowing that users are using bitcoin makes me think that they at least know that they should be careful when it comes to sending tx as there isn't a chargeback/undo feature in this and; two, given that moat addresses are strings of characters that aren't easily identifiable, users inspect the addresses first.

It's a good effort to tackle the problem of forgetfulness for some people though I don't think that it really is that important IMO.

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All I know is that it requires confirmation when transacting from a good wallet. In this case a code goes to your phone number or a link goes to your email for the successful completion of your transaction. You should make sure that everything is OK before confirming it. Then there will be no chance of being wrong.

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We need to monitor the sites carefully before transacting You are right to say that it is not right to believe the people you see on the internet they are more scammers so OPs are most effective in maintaining their security for transactions. OPs are able to give us the right advice A lot of the time scam sites come out through this.

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Quote from: Etsu on July 03, 2020, 07:53:59 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on June 30, 2020, 03:49:53 PM

Amazing innovation by the way , lets see if it works ..

Truly quite a nice innovation toward ending human error in making irreversible bitcoin transactions but i think most errors do stems out as a result of people being too lazy to cross check transactions before broadcasting it on tge network. I read about how it works but damn, it's quite a process as you have to make a transafer to some some sort of wallet called safe address prior to sending it to desired recipient with a preset password that which you'll give tge recipient to enable them claim the asset

Would it promote potential scammers? This is great for those honest mistakes incurred by users but I hope scammers will not use this for their illegal activities. As a crypto user, just make sure that your transaction is safe and secure. Don't trust people that you just met over the internet.

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Quote from: fiulpro on June 30, 2020, 03:49:53 PM

Amazing innovation by the way , lets see if it works ..

Truly quite a nice innovation toward ending human error in making irreversible bitcoin transactions but i think most errors do stems out as a result of people being too lazy to cross check transactions before broadcasting it on tge network. I read about how it works but damn, it's quite a process as you have to make a transafer to some some sort of wallet called safe address prior to sending it to desired recipient with a preset password that which you'll give tge recipient to enable them claim the asset

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Most of the online wallet nowadays requires a confirmation before proceeding on the transaction. Not only in the bitcoin wallet but some local wallets have also a confirmation feature to avoid mistake transactions. Undo feature might be helpful but it'll lessen the discipline of checking the correct information on every transactions.

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Quote from: coinfinger on July 03, 2020, 12:30:45 AM

Even now that there is no undo button for transactions, a lot of people are still being scammed because they sent their money to a scammer or they sent to a wrong address.

Sending to wrong address doesn't means you got scammed, it's stupidity. That's why it's better to request for both qr code and wallet address of sender when sending a transaction. All you need is two devices, a PC and a mobile phone that you're going to send the coin from.

That's why we shouldn't rush things and do the transactions carefully to avoid problems. There are many of scammers in the digital world, always hesitate to transact with someone we doesn't know personally.

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This type of invention is expected when cryptocurrency is getting bigger, i read the article and it stated the platform in already available on ledger wallet.
Is this project centralized or we just misunderstand them because they claimed not to hold user private keys?

Quote from: Krislaw on July 03, 2020, 12:02:42 PM

Quote from: coinfinger on July 03, 2020, 12:30:45 AM

Even now that there is no undo button for transactions, a lot of people are still being scammed because they sent their money to a scammer or they sent to a wrong address.

Sending to wrong address doesn't means you got scammed, it's stupidity.

Not in a situation of someone whose computer was attacked by copy clipboard hijack.

Quote from: Krislaw on July 03, 2020, 12:02:42 PM

That's why it's better to request for both qr code and wallet address of sender when sending a transaction. All you need is two devices, a PC and a mobile phone that you're going to send the coin from.

Thats still a better option but most of us dont usually request for the qr code.

Quote from: tomhutchinson on July 03, 2020, 01:56:14 PM

Anyone can recover lost coins by creating Hardfork, but will the entire network be forced to follow, no.
You can take back all your currencies or even create a new transaction with thousands of currencies.
The value of these currencies will be zero because no one will want them.
If this happens to Bitcoin, its value will be zero.

I don't understand what you're to say here but the hard fork has nothing to do with recovering of lost coins and aside from the platform discuss on this thread the other option to recover lost coins is through double spending when the transaction is yet to be confirmed.

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Anyone can recover lost coins by creating Hardfork, but will the entire network be forced to follow, no.
You can take back all your currencies or even create a new transaction with thousands of currencies.
The value of these currencies will be zero because no one will want them.
If this happens to Bitcoin, its value will be zero.

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Quote from: coinfinger on July 03, 2020, 12:30:45 AM

Even now that there is no undo button for transactions, a lot of people are still being scammed because they sent their money to a scammer or they sent to a wrong address.

Sending to wrong address doesn't means you got scammed, it's stupidity. That's why it's better to request for both qr code and wallet address of sender when sending a transaction. All you need is two devices, a PC and a mobile phone that you're going to send the coin from.

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Are you scared that it would be used for scamming people? Mate, no matter how you put it, there will always be people that are using it wrongly. It's just up to you, when you know how people are misusing it, then you have to be careful. Cryptocurrency doesn't have Central control and no unit to report to when you're having problems. Even now that there is no undo button for transactions, a lot of people are still being scammed because they sent their money to a scammer or they sent to a wrong address.

Though the one of sending to the wrong address is a dumb mistake, I have never made that kind of mistake, before I make transaction I request for the address I'm sending to and then I copy it and paste and when I'm about to enter my pin I check the address to be sure of it. I don't really understand why people are making such mistakes.

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Quote from: yazher on July 02, 2020, 08:13:09 AM

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 30, 2020, 05:30:57 PM

Very complicated.
Much easier solution would be to have some easy way to double check and confirm address of recipient before sending.
One way would also be to save this address in wallet addressbook before sending it.

I always do this thing whenever I'm about to send some BTC to another address. I think every BTC holders have developed this idea of double-checking before sending BTC. No need for the undo button, instead, we must not forget this very important step. If you ask me, I've been doing it for the last 5 years of my journey in the crypto industry, and never in my life I have sent BTC in the wrong address.

Exactly, I think for more experience users, we have learn to double or triple check everything, like the sender/receiver address and then wallets have built in passwords before you can send your transactions. Love the idea, but I'm totally against it though, it will make bitcoin centralised to me.

Let's just educate ourselves first, and I think this is the best weapon to not commit this kind of mistakes.

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Undo button for transactions. what if the sender made payment for a high fee and pick up by miner almost immediately or would there be e central control where the transaction will be help before processing? That will go against decentralization of course. The only best way in my own opinion is to establish a medium of check where the amount and address are confirmed second time before the processing actually takes place. Most wallets have this feature

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 02, 2020, 06:12:58 PM

I think the undo button is only for people who are too lazy to double check the address before sending coins. Because in my opinion
no one is lazy to do that which takes only a few seconds, which exists because of carelessness. So things like that will always be
pros and cons. But in my opinion the undo button feature is not needed, try more carefully before sending coins. If it reaches the
undo button realization by involving third parties for bitcoin transactions, there will definitely be a risk.

It does have Pro's but this one wont really be that different on to those service that we have known like Paypal which do have chargebacks or some sort and mostly
this kind of feature is more having a Cons when it comes to making transactions.This is why lots of people do support crypto due to irreversible transaction once
you have sent it to other user and now some service do try out to have that undo button when it comes to tx? no it wont really be that appealing.

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Nice Scrow service, they hold the sender coins and decide if let it go to the receiver or if chargeback the transaction...

Am i the only one who can predict a hell tone of scams done with this service. You could buy paypal money and chage back the bitcoin for easy double up.

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Laziness or being confident that can't even spend at least 10 seconds to check if the destination address is correct. There is no need to have this undo button but only we need is to change the way we process the transaction. Spending for a few seconds is not the hardest thing to do it and that is certainly a thing to develop rather than having this undo button. If we are irresponsible enough into our money then have to expect the same scenario happens again. I'm not sure how many had experienced (sending to the wrong address) such thing but it seems impossible to have 10 out from 100 tx, maybe it just only 1tx.

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I think the undo button is only for people who are too lazy to double check the address before sending coins. Because in my opinion
no one is lazy to do that which takes only a few seconds, which exists because of carelessness. So things like that will always be
pros and cons. But in my opinion the undo button feature is not needed, try more carefully before sending coins. If it reaches the
undo button realization by involving third parties for bitcoin transactions, there will definitely be a risk.

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