Topic: Unfair Scammer Judgements (Read 3357 times)
Theymos tagged him. Thread locked.
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot.
I never said any particular person/website had a sign up age.
I said when you lie to a website to gain access to which you otherwise would be denied, which I'm sure you have, you are scamming them.
Since profanity is a sign of a weak mind, there is no more sense in talking to you. Typical ignorant teenager.
He was not the only one that lost money. Many people, including me, have done so. Therefore, whether or not his own case is void should have no impact of the verdict. I find your attempted deflection of attention away from the scam at hand concerning. Would you mind revealing whether you have a vetted interest in this case?
I'm just saying that one scammer calling another out is funny, that's all.
Have a good one.Are you saying that you have never lied before in your life? Not even once? That's the argument that you're making.
If you ask me, you're the one acting ignorant currently.
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot.
I never said any particular person/website had a sign up age.
I said when you lie to a website to gain access to which you otherwise would be denied, which I'm sure you have, you are scamming them.
Since profanity is a sign of a weak mind, there is no more sense in talking to you. Typical ignorant teenager.
He was not the only one that lost money. Many people, including me, have done so. Therefore, whether or not his own case is void should have no impact of the verdict. I find your attempted deflection of attention away from the scam at hand concerning. Would you mind revealing whether you have a vetted interest in this case?
I'm just saying that one scammer calling another out is funny, that's all.
Have a good one. 
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot.
I never said any particular person/website had a sign up age.
I said when you lie to a website to gain access to which you otherwise would be denied, which I'm sure you have, you are scamming them.
Since profanity is a sign of a weak mind, there is no more sense in talking to you. Typical ignorant teenager.
He was not the only one that lost money. Many people, including me, have done so. Therefore, whether or not his own case is void should have no impact on the verdict. I find your attempted deflection of attention away from the scam at hand concerning. Would you mind revealing whether you have a vetted interest in this case?
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot.
I never said any particular person/website had a sign up age.
I said when you lie to a website to gain access to which you otherwise would be denied, which I'm sure you have, you are scamming them.
Since profanity is a sign of a weak mind, there is no more sense in talking to you. Typical ignorant teenager.
I did not lie to Andrew Bitcoiner or bitjack21 about my age. I never told them my age, nor signed a contract stating my age.
Also, you're threadjacking my thread anyways. My age has nothing to do with unfair scammer judgments.
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot.
I never said any particular person/website had a sign up age.
I said when you lie to a website to gain access to which you otherwise would be denied, which I'm sure you have, you are scamming them.
Since profanity is a sign of a weak mind, there is no more sense in talking to you. Typical ignorant teenager.
So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made.
A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court.
Re-read my last two posts, I clarified them.
This is why theymos won't give him a tag. Because he didn't have a ToS that said he couldn't steal my Bitcoins.
You should probably re-read them again. :-) Simply because only a minor can void a contract, not the counter party unless a minor lied about his age and there is no contract.
So, mlawrence: I didn't lie about my age. Contract is valid.
So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made.
A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court.
Re-read my last two posts, I clarified them.
This is why theymos won't give him a tag. Because he didn't have a ToS that said he couldn't steal my Bitcoins.
You should probably re-read them again. :-) Simply because only a minor can void a contract, not the counter party unless a minor lied about his age and there is no contract.
So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made.
A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court.
Re-read my last two posts, I clarified them.
This is why theymos won't give him a tag. Because he didn't have a ToS that said he couldn't steal my Bitcoins.
So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made.
A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court.
Re-read my last two posts, I clarified them.
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
Also, just so you know, lying =/= scamming. Idiot.
So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made.
A 14 year old can make a contract, it just can't be legally enforced in court.
*Sigh* So, what you're saying is that I can't sign up for an account on any website on the internet? The ToS's count as contracts.
Absolutely. if a website says you have to be older than a certain age to sign up, and you aren't, but you signup anyway - YES, you are scamming them.
So it's legal to steal from 14 year-olds? Seems legit.
Of course not. The contract will be voided and restitutions must be made.
Lets clarify even more. Andrew Bitcoiner cannot use TOS against you.
When companies are honest it doesn't matter if the other party is 14 years old or not.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
Most likely that these companies don't know that they deal with 14 y/o. Even World of Warcraft requires an adult.
When companies are honest it doesn't matter if the other party is 14 years old or not.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
Most likely that these companies don't know that they deal with 14 y/o. Even World of Warcraft requires an adult. To be more specific, the company cannot force a minor to do anything, but a company cannot void a contract. Only minors can.
Andrew bitcoiner is probably a scammer, but it's theymos' rules and he doesn't really follow contract law in US.
When companies are honest it doesn't matter if the other party is 14 years old or not.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
They just pay what they win.
Fact: I know 14 y.o. "kids" who make more in 1 month doing affiliate marketing than their parents do in the entire year working in their jobs. And the marketing networks pay them what they owe them, they don't come saying that contracts with 14 y.o. "kids" aren't enforceable, so cut the crap with his age.
To be honest, are any of the contracts on these forums really enforceable? It's not like there are any formal written contracts for 99% of these deals. Any lawyer could find a loophole in them.
IANAL
IANAL
Too expensive to enforce. People just take a loss. For an example I could sue anyone in NY state, but it's at least $40 filling fee for a small claim court.
To be honest, are any of the contracts on these forums really enforceable? It's not like there are any formal written contracts for 99% of these deals. Any lawyer could find a loophole in them.
IANAL
IANAL
Too expensive to enforce. People just take a loss. For an example I could sue anyone in NY state, but it's at least $40 filling fee for a small claim court.
danieldaniel, aren't you 14? You have NO BUSINESS entering into contracts with other people, because they mean nothing in the eyes of the law.
There are three stages of consensus:
1. Negotiation. The two parties discuss the situation with each other and attempt to reach an acceptable solution. Being a minor does not affect this stage at all. 99% of disputes are resolved in this stage.
2. Mediation. The two parties discuss the situation with a third party and the third party proposes an acceptable solution the two parties ratify. Again, there is no reason why being a minor affects this stage. 0.99% of disputes are resolved in this stage.
3. Arbitration. Here, and only here, does the law come in. A third party enforces a solution upon the two parties to ensure consensus. If a minor is entering a contract, the contract may be declared void by the arbiter. 0.01% of disputes are resolved in this stage.
There is no reason a 14-year-old has no business entering contracts, because the law only handles 0.01% of cases. Most cases are resolved through the cheaper methods of negotiation or mediation.
Contracts with minors aren't enforceable. There is nothing else to add.
All three steps are optional and not enforceable.
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