Topic: [Unmoderated] Bit-Investors.com Independent Discussion - ►NO LONGER PAYING - page 3. (Read 5940 times)

Looks like tradefortress was right xD

Hi all,

Several users in the 'official' Bit-Investors.com thread have asked me to make public details of the conversations I had with Silvercane.

I have decided to post them here due to this thread's unmoderated status.

http://www.filedropper.com/filemanager/public.php?service=files&t=25c79f32848dc660908660fa60d8edb0

EDIT: file is a PDF. The URL doesn't make that clear.

Yeah.


Didn't even take a week!

So Friday and Saturday have come and gone. Looks like you all got scammed.

Wrong account?

First of all, its tf, he has emailed people and has posted GPG signed messages. I don't know what more proof you want but there is tons if you actually take the time to look.


Not true, parts of the inputs user database leaked. So other users here can confirm it and your email is already public.

My thoughts on this:

I of course don't think the owner should refund him the 0.2BTC, I do however feel that it should go to a charity. Tails gets most of its funding from Tor who get most of their funding from the gov, so I don't know why you would donate to Tails, they essentially have access to government funding and have plenty of cash.

Whereas projects like OpenBSD are struggling to pay the power bill: http://www.zdnet.com/electricity-bill-threatens-survival-of-openbsd-7000025276/
Maybe you could donate it to them instead.

Besides Tails sucks, they need to properly isolate the OS using virtualization, as it stands if you are rooted you can be identified very easily.

If you were actually scammed for 6BTC then of course you should keep it for yourself as reimbursement, but clearly you're lying when you say you lost 6BTC. If not then post your inputs email.

But of course you're just going to keep it, thats how a HYIP makes money, the owner keeps it.

In other words: "if I scam you, you're not a current investor".

Exactly, simply post the TX id's of all your payments on friday and put this thread to rest. Simple as that. OP is just desperate.

When I get scammed, I obviously threaten to make a thread Fail to see your point?

Here's genuine proof that Bit-Investors scammed 0.2 BTC: https://blockchain.info/tx/c543697b8b8a9d3434c31cabcdf2ac5d2084564546dd88a9d42ec037292fa1ec

Say what you want about me, but nothing can deny that Bit-Investors.com has already started scamming (and stopped paying everyone when I threatened to make his scamming of me public). Check back in this thread in a week and see defenders here morph into people crying


While significantly factually inaccurate, made me laugh still Nice.

This thread is both hilarious and pathetic on free hug's part. He's trying soooooo hard. It's not working lol, nobody cares about your shitty scam accusations. Until somebody provides genuine proof (besides the 0.2btc case, this has already been discuss here where you threatened to make this fail thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-large-bitcoin-network-fee-702654), this thread is useless.

BEST BEST BEST!!!

Bigger fail then this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sxfp_Cycvg

Ok we admit it all. bit-investors.com was hacked a while ago and the hacker stole all the coins in our medium-temperature wallet.

We're all very upset about this which is why we never told anyone until now. We can't refund you your 0.2 BTC because it was sent to us after the hack happened. It is considered common procedure to "keep" all deposits made after a bitcoin site is hacked like with inputs/cl.

You have to remember that the real victim here is silvercane because not only was he robbed of the BTC he could've made from shutting down the HYIP but also the cost of the domain and time wasted clicking on ads to get free hosting and coding the site using nulled scripts.

HYIP have no warranties of any kind for coins stored there.

Do not bother asking us for your money, we totally didn't keep it all and are totally telling the truth, just take everything I say to be complete truth there is no need for us to give any kind of proof we are telling the truth. We'll probably file a police report or some shit in a few years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors. Most of these scams work from anonymous offshore bases which make them hard to track down.
 

Mechanics
Operators generally set up a website offering an "investment program" which promises very high returns, such as 1% per day (3778% APY when returns are compounded every day), disclosing little or no detail about the underlying management, location, or other aspects of how money is to be invested. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has said that "these fraudulent schemes involve the purported issuance, trading, or use of so-called 'prime' bank, 'prime' European bank or 'prime' world bank financial instruments, or other 'high yield investment programs.' (HYIP's) The fraud artists … seek to mislead investors by suggesting that well regarded and financially sound institutions participate in these bogus programs." In 2010, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) warned that "[t]he con artists behind HYIPs are experts at using social media — including YouTube, Twitter and Facebook — to lure investors and create the illusion of social consensus that these investments are legitimate."
Though Ponzi schemes have existed since at least the early 1900s, the rise of digital payment systems has made it much easier for operators of such websites to accept payments from people worldwide.[3] Electronic money systems are generally accepted by HYIP operators because they are more accessible to operators than traditional merchant accounts. Some HYIP operators opened their own digital currency companies that eventually folded; these companies include Standard Reserve, OSGold, INTGold, EvoCash, and V-Money. StormPay started in the same way in 2002, but it remained in business even after the HYIP that it was created to serve was shut down by the State of Tennessee.
Some HYIPs have incorporated in countries with lax fraud laws to secure immunity from investor laws in other countries. The operators have been known to host their website with a web host that offers "anonymous hosting". They will use this website to accept transactions from participants in the scheme.

Some investors try to make money by attempting to invest in HYIPs at an early enough stage to create a return, and then by cashing out before the scheme collapses to profit at the expense of the later entrants. This is in itself a gamble as poor timing may result in a total loss of all money invested. To reduce this risk some of these investors use "tracker sites" listing the schemes and their current state. One expert states that there is not enough evidence to corroborate that tracker sites can actually help investors make more money.

There is no evidence that he even used Inputs or Coinlenders. He registered here 8 months after they closed. Still waiting for silvercane to email me their account info

SCAMMED BY BIT-INVESTORS FOR 0.2 BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/c543697b8b8a9d3434c31cabcdf2ac5d2084564546dd88a9d42ec037292fa1ec

By the way, TheGambler is yet another person who has an active 'investment' in Bit-Investors.com and is defending it to try and get suckers to pay for him. This thread will be hilarious in a week as he starts posting scam accusations

Do you seriously believe that? Their 'company registration' and freeze on payments colliding with me threatening to make this thread is no coincidence.

Obvious attempt at trying to protect their 'investment', hoping some suckers buy in so the operator can afford to pay them.


Completely irrelevant. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Totally related to bit-investors not paying out

(And no, I didn't invest here. I gambled )

Im a current board investor in the new transition. No problem with the admin at all. Seems OP needs to man up and pay his debts instead of wasting his time sending PM's to everyone who invested in silvercane's site which is still paying.
Recommend you edit your thread with proper facts as it's only a few days since the site will be up and running again.
Also a good idea would be to fix your trust rating if you think anyone will believe you. Looks pretty ridiculous if you ask me

Not paying

The operator, silvercane has attempted to justify it because he 'lost 6 BTC' on coinlenders/inputs, despite his account being registered more than half a year after CL or Inputs operated. silvercane refuses to provide any proof that he lost 6 BTC, and as such his claim can be considered entirely bogus.

I proposed that I will settle this if he donates 0.2 BTC to FSF or Tails. Despite initially agreeing, he refuses to donate the 0.2 BTC to the Free Software Foundation, a non-profit charity promoting FOSS software, or the Tails project. A couple of hours ago, silvercane said:


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Latest email from silvercane: "Go ahead and make your posts, It isn't that hard to explain to anyone who doubts me"

> Did not add 0.2 BTC *before* he knew I was TF

> Frivolous assertion that he "lost 6 BTC" in CL/Inputs

> Not making ANY payments now, to anyone