Topic: [unmoderated]Re: ACE - AD Campaign Experts - advertising shady site (Read 1571 times)

anyone claimed we scam them? no.

It was not. It was pointing out that a "disclaimer" on some random thread is useless and does not absolve someone from advertising a ponzi and/or a known scam.

Your post was offtopic, as you very well know.

A warning about Legonds of Tomorrow was posted in the ACE thread a long time ago, however my post was promptly deleted by Lauda

Or maybe this is just an indication that someone put very little effort into what is fairly clearly a scam attempt.

sorry didnt see this one.

so now neither hot wallet nor cold wallet is useful then?

what should we do? tell Quickseller to escrow the funds?

Their deposit address has addresses that are spendlinked that have roughly 39BTC in them, however the fact that they are in possession of 50BTC is meaningless.

i would like to confirm this.

Quickseller is speaking about our mixing service address.

this address has been used BEFORE our launch, and since a lot of users used to mix on our old mixer using the address, we were requested by them to continue using the address itself.

however if you check the past deposits on the address and the day we launched the new website, you would realise the past deposits had over 20 bitcoins and from launch of the organisation Legends of Tomorrow, there are just around 10btc that have been sent to mixed.

as for the retraction of investments, let me clarify that every investor was made aware of this, and they support the reason also.

if you really want to know why, well, we exchanged it for usd on cex.io a few minutes after bitfinex hack. then rebought at lower still on cex.io

the funds were deposited in another address to which we have signed and proved to our investors. the investors are the one who are entitled to the funds not Quickseller so i am in no position to provide quickseller's weird mind proof of anything.

however if quickseller wants more proof of our funds.

sure we can sign another address of 60btc if he wants.

50btc address was already signed before the ACE campaign started to prevent this type of misguidance. but alas. we forgot Quickseller and his FUD spreading comments.

all investors are given a small review of how their funds were used at the end of each 4weeks. if Quickseller wants, we can give him a snip of the situation. or even post it on public. no worries.

i would like to add that, we are currently building a casino as well as a crowdfunding website along with a charity website. all charity funds will be directly sent to bitcoin charity organisation's address. we are just the transmitter of the message including one for ross.

Quickseller, funny how you try bust scam and point fingers at others when you have been scamming for months using your trust score and by self escrowing your deals.

till now nobody has claimed not receiving their funds in any of our services.

Quickseller, if you say that a new company asking funds bla bla bla. if we follow your message, then every new company that wants to go big in a system should not exist and are 100% a scam.

please do yourself a favor, find something else to do on the forum than fud spreading our work.

ps. your signature campaign or whatever is being said about it, does not concern us. so we refrain ourselves from commenting on that.

My concerns are us-disputable facts about LegondsOfTomorrow. The fact is that they are a company that has literally zero history is asking to be trusted with large amounts of money. One might say that the prudent thing for anyone to do is to research this company prior to trusting them with your money, however part of this research would include seeing who is endorsing them, and several users with large amounts of trust are endorsing them via their signature.  
The TOS/T&C are worthless to anyone who is viewing their signatures. There is no reason for anyone reading any member of "ACE"'s posts to read an obscure thread. Anyone who wants to be responsible with what they advertise will only advertise services that they can logically say there is a very low chance is a scam, not make some BS disclaimer that they are not responsible if what they are advertising is a scam.

The standards are clearly very low at ACE, and evidenced by what they are willing to advertise.

I would also question who exactly you are, and what your relationship with ACE is.

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Another PM from Lauda, and my responses:

I think you forgot to say BINGO

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No.

edit:
According to their T&C
The service ACE is advertising has not been in business for 3 months. According to the very first post of the account behind the service they are advertising, their service was planning to launch in late June, being that it is now the beginning of August, the service has been in business for no more then 1.5 months. Also the signature does not include a link to the ACE thread.

As i read it, you are concerned about LegendsofTomorrow.
With all these concerns you have, i assume you did already shoot LegendsofTomorrow a pm/dm/mail ?!

The standards are high at ACE., as we can see at the noted T&C.
No worries there at all.

Same goes for Primedice, Betking, Rollin and countless others.

I am involved in Bitcoin and I don't care about house edge. Please let me win hundreds of coins , make a dice favorable to the players.

You don't run a business based on the mentality of the gamblers. The only reasons to not have a license are either you are not allowed to offer such businesses in your country or you are waiting to do a runner.

So guys CG is basically an illegal/unlicensed platform for those who don't care about government regulations , got it ?

nice to know.

In my country it is not regulated, but i'm not sure for Slovenia.

Just to get this straight, you're saying you have comitted what is considered a crime (in your jurisdiction) and you're publicly admitting doing so?
(http://archive.is/etXwa#selection-7021.26-7021.152)

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Look at this, what's next? Rollin.io harassing the poor & innocent betcoin.ag guys.

You guys at satoshigames.io stop this crusade against the honorable betcoin.ag staff. This is madness!

The whole situation was explained many times over and over again, and if you missed some of it, i welcome you to go to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betsoft-non-payment-of-jackpot-1517648 and read up.
There can't be a  "next one" with same situation as Jason, because rules are clear now. When someone hits jackpot now, they will be paid out if it's not from free spin, duh.
In regards to that tweet; i was participating in their twitter campaign, is that a crime ? (Oh, wait, since crypto-games is an illegal casino - It is !)

p.s. look at the thread title and op - we can continue on https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betsoft-non-payment-of-jackpot-1517648 , before getting totally ot.


Because there is nothing and noone who protects their customers in case they flee. Having an investment option, therefore customer funds is just another flag.

You are saying "illegal unlicenced" like it's something bad. Don't you realize that most people involved in Bitcoin don't care about government regulations?

Giving a fraction of the jackpot that he was entitled to get seems fair to you? Lets say you get a fraction of your entitled signature campaign payout then what will you think about it? Will it be fair?

It doesn't matter how much they gave it to him. What matters is that they gave him some amount to shut his mouth instead of giving the jacpot that he was entitled to get. Maybe this time it was jasonort who shut his mouth what about next time?? Will betcoin.ag will continue to keep those sucking casino games and when somebody hits the jackpot they continue to give only small fraction?


Care to answer about this : https://twitter.com/ajareselde/status/752258770445692929 as Darkstar_ pointed out

Who got scammed ? Noone did. And when we're talking about who can get scammed, then we can talk about crypto-games.net as well, because they have more
incentive than anyone run away, being illegal and unlicenced.



Who did they scam ? Jasonort ? It's funny because even he said that he doesn't consider betcoin a scam.


Only people with crypto-games tag are doing so, while they're advertising an illegal casino in the meantime.

I would say protection people from being scammed is a smart thing to do. Are you saying that just because a service is advertised in someone's signature means that it is legit?

Yes, and a casino that has a worthless license that can be bought with little verification, pays people to lie about things and is shady is much better, right? Crypto-Games hasn't scammed anyone, but Betcoin.ag has.

Also, can't forget about this: https://twitter.com/ajareselde/status/752258770445692929

The only valid point in your post.

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waits for him to say something about me being a crypto-games affiliate in his reply

1. Don't you have anything smarter to do other than to comment on other people's signatures ?

2. You have illegal unlicenced casino in your signature ad space, but that's ok,right ?

3. This doesn't belong in services section, belongs to service discussion at best..