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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 132. (Read 1047017 times)

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"from strange-onomics through crazee-nomics towards flat-out-insane-onomics"
but SRSLY ... $1.80 is all you need 2 back ... approaching duh! levels.
Paging @natmcmolecule to Come dump 1k uno on the market so we can back the truck up and get amazing deals and kill all the snakes. Wink

@Kingn56:  Still waiting for you to take me up on the one ton at .003 offer.  Hell, I'll sell two.  Could much better use the liquidity elsewhere than here.  Buying a ton on the market without me woukd cost way the fuck more.

Or are you just wind @Kingn56?

@BitcoinNational:  you got the money?  Or is everyone here broke dicks?
You clearly misinterpreted my post dude, sorry. If you would have read other replies under that one you would of understood what i wrote as i explained it...
Their is no need for you to get personal and hostile towards anyone...

That's my MO.  Ask anyone.

Being a dick and waste of life is your MO? And you wonder why no one wants to buy UNO from you? Maybe it's cause you are a stain on humanity.

EDIT: Also gekko is responsilbe for the downtrend in the price as he pmd me saying hes already dumped 2 tons soo, I say we have a party to celebrate no longer having to see him around and getting cheap uno cause of him.

Edit: incase anyone wonders how many he has left, 699UNO still in his wallet 1000Uno posted at 0.003 on bittrex and 1k uno in his bittrex wallet, so eh has 2.7k total.
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"from strange-onomics through crazee-nomics towards flat-out-insane-onomics"
but SRSLY ... $1.80 is all you need 2 back ... approaching duh! levels.
Paging @natmcmolecule to Come dump 1k uno on the market so we can back the truck up and get amazing deals and kill all the snakes. Wink

@Kingn56:  Still waiting for you to take me up on the one ton at .003 offer.  Hell, I'll sell two.  Could much better use the liquidity elsewhere than here.  Buying a ton on the market without me woukd cost way the fuck more.

Or are you just wind @Kingn56?

@BitcoinNational:  you got the money?  Or is everyone here broke dicks?
You clearly misinterpreted my post dude, sorry. If you would have read other replies under that one you would of understood what i wrote as i explained it...
Their is no need for you to get personal and hostile towards anyone...

That's my MO.  Ask anyone.
hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 508
"from strange-onomics through crazee-nomics towards flat-out-insane-onomics"
but SRSLY ... $1.80 is all you need 2 back ... approaching duh! levels.
Paging @natmcmolecule to Come dump 1k uno on the market so we can back the truck up and get amazing deals and kill all the snakes. Wink

@Kingn56:  Still waiting for you to take me up on the one ton at .003 offer.  Hell, I'll sell two.  Could much better use the liquidity elsewhere than here.  Buying a ton on the market without me woukd cost way the fuck more.

Or are you just wind @Kingn56?

@BitcoinNational:  you got the money?  Or is everyone here broke dicks?
You clearly misinterpreted my post dude. If you would have read other replies under that one you would of understood what i wrote as i explained it...
Their is no need for you to get personal and hostile towards anyone...
hero member
Activity: 545
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"from strange-onomics through crazee-nomics towards flat-out-insane-onomics"
but SRSLY ... $1.80 is all you need 2 back ... approaching duh! levels.
Paging @natmcmolecule to Come dump 1k uno on the market so we can back the truck up and get amazing deals and kill all the snakes. Wink

@Kingn56:  Still waiting for you to take me up on the one ton at .003 offer.  Hell, I'll sell two.  Could much better use the liquidity elsewhere than here.  Buying a ton on the market without me woukd cost way the fuck more.

Or are you just wind @Kingn56?

@BitcoinNational:  you got the money?  Or is everyone here broke dicks?
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I'm curious as to how many of those wallets last opened 500-800 days ago are lost forever?

Would you guys say the majority of them are cold storage/paper wallets? Or do you think a lot of them are truly dead and gone, picked up when coin first came out then forgotten about and left to die along with their computers?

Would love some opinions on this! Smiley
address != wallet
It is perfectly possible for someone to use one and the same wallet, yet a specific input can go unspent for years even if the wallet is actively used. With the current wallet it is possible to specify exactly which inputs you want to spend, so you can only choose newer ones if you prefer. Not saying that everyone is doing that and this is why some addresses have not moved in a long time. Some addresses might very well have been forgotten about or lost. Just saying an inactive address does not mean an inactive wallet. Smiley
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I'm curious as to how many of those wallets last opened 500-800 days ago are lost forever?

Would you guys say the majority of them are cold storage/paper wallets? Or do you think a lot of them are truly dead and gone, picked up when coin first came out then forgotten about and left to die along with their computers?

Would love some opinions on this! Smiley
hero member
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"from strange-onomics through crazee-nomics towards flat-out-insane-onomics"
but SRSLY ... $1.80 is all you need 2 back ... approaching duh! levels.
Paging @natmcmolecule to Come dump 1k uno on the market so we can back the truck up and get amazing deals and kill all the snakes. Wink

Not gonna dump, but if any of you players are feeling flush with BTC right now, I will set a ton on .003 for you to pick up the block straight away.

Just let me know if there's any interest and I'll send the ton to Bittrex.

Here or PM.  Don't matter.  I'm liking the volitilaty in ETH.  So, need some liquidity.
legendary
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Taking my annual summer (northern hemisphere) vacation this week. Don't feed the trolls while I'm gone. Will delete it eventually. Be good, have fun, spread the Uno love. No pumping Uno until I get back! I want in on that.
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We have had to re-build all of our coins since the hack, and Unobtanium has been on our Discovery List to re-launch, however it has taken some time to restore all of the coins.
We hope to have it back up in the near future. We appreciate your patience!"

EDIT: Also! LOVING THEESE PRICES IF THEY KEEP GOING DOWN LIKE THIS I'M GOING TO BACK UP THE TRUCK BIG TIMES!

okay i will wait in the hall with humility.  shapeshift much respect.  keep up the good works.  remember us ... we are UN-stopable! Smiley
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Verifications at Bittrex

http://www.coindesk.com/real-cost-applying-new-york-bitlicense/

Guys, apparently Bittrex will be requiring all users to re-verify when it starts trading $US*. When? Not sure -- perhaps a couple of months. I tried to re-verify, and they stuffed it up. Will a bunch of non-U.S. folk simply not want/be able to re-verify? Watch this space.

*I swapped emails with a staff member named 'Scott': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HegNSoWs4


Will non-verified members still be able to trade crypto to crypto or will they make the site off-limits to us? kind of worrying.

Morning, Kingn. I u n d e r s t a n d not, and that's why I thought I'd post about it. Would you care to open a ticket to get an update? It's the Bitlicense thang:

http://www.coindesk.com/real-cost-applying-new-york-bitlicense/

Yikes, yea, just submitted a question to them, not sure how long it takes to get a response but will certainly let you guys know what they say. On the brighter side of things I got this email from shapeshift a few days ago.

"Kingn56,

We have had to re-build all of our coins since the hack, and Unobtanium has been on our Discovery List to re-launch, however it has taken some time to restore all of the coins. We hope to have it back up in the near future. We appreciate your patience!"

EDIT: Also! LOVING THEESE PRICES IF THEY KEEP GOING DOWN LIKE THIS I'M GOING TO BACK UP THE TRUCK BIG TIMES!
IMZ
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Verifications at Bittrex

http://www.coindesk.com/real-cost-applying-new-york-bitlicense/

Guys, apparently Bittrex will be requiring all users to re-verify when it starts trading $US*. When? Not sure -- perhaps a couple of months. I tried to re-verify, and they stuffed it up. Will a bunch of non-U.S. folk simply not want/be able to re-verify? Watch this space.

*I swapped emails with a staff member named 'Scott': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HegNSoWs4


Will non-verified members still be able to trade crypto to crypto or will they make the site off-limits to us? kind of worrying.

Morning, Kingn. I u n d e r s t a n d not, and that's why I thought I'd post about it. Would you care to open a ticket to get an update? It's the Bitlicense thang:

http://www.coindesk.com/real-cost-applying-new-york-bitlicense/
hero member
Activity: 559
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Verifications at Bittrex

http://www.coindesk.com/real-cost-applying-new-york-bitlicense/

Guys, apparently Bittrex will be requiring all users to re-verify when it starts trading $US*. When? Not sure -- perhaps a couple of months. I tried to re-verify, and they stuffed it up. Will a bunch of non-U.S. folk simply not want/be able to re-verify? Watch this space.

*I swapped emails with a staff member named 'Scott': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HegNSoWs4


Will non-verified members still be able to trade crypto to crypto or will they make the site off-limits to us? kind of worrying.
IMZ
legendary
Activity: 1498
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Verifications at Bittrex

http://www.coindesk.com/real-cost-applying-new-york-bitlicense/

Guys, apparently Bittrex will be requiring all users to re-verify when it starts trading $US*. When? Not sure -- perhaps a couple of months. I tried to re-verify, and they stuffed it up. Will a bunch of non-U.S. folk simply not want/be able to re-verify? Watch this space.

*I swapped emails with a staff member named 'Scott': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7HegNSoWs4
IMZ
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@Sirsmokesalot: ‘Shouldn't those type of coins clearly fall under shit coins or scam coins?’

No. They are different things. Bitsquare’s point is clear to me: by adopting, for example, ‘DecentAryanFolkOnly Coin,’ they would be seen to endorse DAF Coin’s values. This takes us straight back to the past conflicts of this community: does a quasi-commercial enterprise like developing a crypto require any conformity with the values of its potential adoptees? IMHO: yes. Misogyny comes immediately to mind. Half the people in the world are girl people. So not providing a clearly anti-misogynist environment for them just seems counterproductive.


I don't disagree with the conformity of values to some extent. I wouldn't want to associate with a coin that is known for backing the third reich or anything of that nature. Even though i wouldn't consider it a legit coin i could see how a coin might not be a scam coin or a shit coin to those who do use it.
 
If it is merely an exchange, does listing a coin carry an implicit inheritance of values? I would say it depends on the Bitsquare vision really. I think it is possible to maintain moral neutrality by making no claims of limiting any coins just as much as an exchange can claim moral superiority by refusing to exchange coins that go against their core beliefs. It is their private exchange to do with as they see fit but my digestion of what they were saying is "we retain the ability to do whatever we want" which is an inherent part of running a private exchange, so to keep saying it over and over again confuses me. When i don't understand things

Giveaways are chaotic. There is no telling what will happen, but chaos isn't always a bad thing. Giving away 20 Uno isn't much, and maybe that is the issue?

The dollar means nothing. It is the limitless possibility, the dreams that come with having a million of them and being able to do whatever you want. That is what makes money something. Outside of the dreams, nothing. Even harder to connect dreams with other intangible and abstract concepts.

I think the biggest issue is no one wants to play if they can't be king and it takes too much to try to be king of Uno so people would rather just not play. It is bittersweet.

The idea of using Undex (like an uno-ized version of index, yep Wink) for pricing other coins is interesting.

Good morning, Sirsmokes! Fine post. I read it carefully. Don't disagree with any of it. My original thought was: 'Gee! Automated exchanges have been the bane of honest crypto geeks since Day One, so we should poke our noses into this decentralised-exchanges thang!'

For the moment, I am happy to puddle about providing trading-volume, perhaps help F.K. and Nat over at Reddit Unobtanium, and think about our birthday.
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@Sirsmokesalot: ‘Shouldn't those type of coins clearly fall under shit coins or scam coins?’

No. They are different things. Bitsquare’s point is clear to me: by adopting, for example, ‘DecentAryanFolkOnly Coin,’ they would be seen to endorse DAF Coin’s values. This takes us straight back to the past conflicts of this community: does a quasi-commercial enterprise like developing a crypto require any conformity with the values of its potential adoptees? IMHO: yes. Misogyny comes immediately to mind. Half the people in the world are girl people. So not providing a clearly anti-misogynist environment for them just seems counterproductive.


I don't disagree with the conformity of values to some extent. I wouldn't want to associate with a coin that is known for backing the third reich or anything of that nature. Even though i wouldn't consider it a legit coin i could see how a coin might not be a scam coin or a shit coin to those who do use it.
 
If it is merely an exchange, does listing a coin carry an implicit inheritance of values? I would say it depends on the Bitsquare vision really. I think it is possible to maintain moral neutrality by making no claims of limiting any coins just as much as an exchange can claim moral superiority by refusing to exchange coins that go against their core beliefs. It is their private exchange to do with as they see fit but my digestion of what they were saying is "we retain the ability to do whatever we want" which is an inherent part of running a private exchange, so to keep saying it over and over again confuses me. When i don't understand things

Giveaways are chaotic. There is no telling what will happen, but chaos isn't always a bad thing. Giving away 20 Uno isn't much, and maybe that is the issue?

The dollar means nothing. It is the limitless possibility, the dreams that come with having a million of them and being able to do whatever you want. That is what makes money something. Outside of the dreams, nothing. Even harder to connect dreams with other intangible and abstract concepts.

I think the biggest issue is no one wants to play if they can't be king and it takes too much to try to be king of Uno so people would rather just not play. It is bittersweet.

The idea of using Undex (like an uno-ized version of index, yep Wink) for pricing other coins is interesting.
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Is the Unobtanium Community/Team be able to help fund this book:

ufuuqwGVfhCgzk8MPmTYT9JvW2jG2USQjU

anyone donates nanodust And I will throw in 1kg ... more to follow Smiley
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@110

to the rest of crypto ... goood luck at finding valid market capital projects ... UNO is sub100 now ... LOLZ ... really Smiley
have fun with the ballons as they are filled with air ... Economist predictions of 2018 might have been spot ON the money Wink  Wink  Wink


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
"Just Do It" Motivational Speech (Original Video)
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UNO 30day volume $20859
http://alt19.com/  (not sure if it is just bittrex data)

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if a team can help IMZ with getting listed on square, perhaps there's energy  Wink
IMZ
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' . . . And the current market temperature seems to be ... let it go as low as it can.  And I think this collective consensus is cool, ice cold cool, most coins stack the books to create the illusion of vast support.' I find this un-nerving but accurate.

'I think in general giveaways are erroneous.' I agree, but haven't found the right time to say so. My giveaway would be away-from-the-screen: friends, family, work colleagues, merchants.

Back to Bitsquare: my point is: is there energy to explore de-centralised exchanges?

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A long winded opinion on distribution.

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To be Frank I don't care.  

UNO is one of, and possibly, the best intial distro, ever.  This is not hyperbole.  See the history of crypto from BTC to LTC to ETH to Zeta.  

Next, check the numbers, https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!rich

UNO is dominantly distributed to the 11-100 addresses.  Not the Top10.  And for such a small capital coin this speaks volumes.

Personally I'd love to see an egalitarian coin with 90% held by those under Top10000.  I have yet not seen this.  Even with airdrops, the lions share seems to be picked off by the Top 10 accounts.  Again UNO is more diverse than most, but still steered by the Top100.  

With current participation numbers this is still fair, and evidence of this is UNO trade, we have constantly dealt with whales attempting to manipulate the market (as is true with any market traded asset), but in the long game their influence is dwindling.  And the current market temperature seems to be ... let it go as low as it can.  And I think this collective consensus is cool, ice cold cool, most coins stack the books to create the illusion of vast support.  While UNO has opened the door for new participants to get a position at undervalue rates.  

Note: Verns share which is a significant number is likely to be broken up and distributed also.

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RE: Giveaway distribution.


I think in general giveaways are erroneous.  But providing incentive for new participants to join in the conversation is worth exploring again.  So bring out the helicopter.  I would suggest a rule be that you must demonstrate having an active UNO wallet for +6months, thus a quid quo pro Wink

slightly contradicting ... Getting the funds together to make UNO tip-able on Cryptopia is a worth while cause.  
- Because it is fun.
- It adds value, even if the function is seldom used.
- appeases distribution critics ... Cryptopia has a very wide and diverse user base ... and we can likely afford to throw a un-penny to them all.

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RE: distribution methods

Again give aways = just for fun.

1.  Mass Adoption

I don't think UNO is built for mass adoption, but we should strive to market it, and maintain presences that it is a superior product for value storage.

But I am currently exploring the possibility of backing a microcoin with UNO.  Hence UNO provides a floor value, and there is literally enough coins for every one to have some.  Thus UNO can be both rare and abundant; both low inflation yet have a side chain with entropy feature.

2.  Best Adoption Method

a) friends and family ... sort of an Amway less the scammy
b) IMZ's Mall concept
c) Specific and Concentrated .. aka .. localized distribution

I would suggest a blend of ABC.  

UNO is market mature enough, and has assembled the requisite tools to float as a valid local currency.  We can handle quick mobile payment solutions, ebay web markets (which is of use only if local), and even instant payment solutions(3rd party).  Of interest ... http://bithappy.co.uk/

3.  MPA

UNO is at a floor value.  The timing is getting very right.  Underwriting UNO @ $2 is an option.  Also a localized experiment could have de facto roll backs / claws ... so that only local participants from the local coin pools can claim at the pegged $ rate... block chain tech makes monitoring this fuzzy solution possible.    

4.  Primary Case Use

UNO can try to be all things to all people.  But the prime utility of UNO is acting as a stable (non-inflationary) base pair.  This means market utility.  So the core user base is active traders and long term investors.  As an experiment we can have a secondary project that aims to launch a local currency use.  
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