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Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 196. (Read 1047085 times)

sr. member
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The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao
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I think there is less stigma in overt community based price management than convert pumps.
How is it any different than board of directors agree that there needs to be some company stock buy-back (reduction of the float) and coordinating a price target?  Is this common place in public stocks ... Company A has targeted price X for end of Q2.

If anything it shows the strength of the community to manage value, and ought be an attraction to the passive investor who is willing to hold short term because the community has a reputation for hitting price objective goals.

So I would suggest to keep it on board in public view.
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Hi BCN,

The stigma is not so much my concern as the effectiveness of the effort.

As to your "How is it any different than board of directors agree that there needs to be some company stock buy-back (reduction of the float) and coordinating a price target?" example, big difference.

We are not a board, and there will be no "legal" reduction in the float, as in your example.  When a company does a buyback, the shares are removed from the "issued and outstanding" portion of the balance sheet, and moved to the "treasury (issued, but not outstanding) portion of the balance sheet.  It would be like, if we had the foundation running saying "OK, the Foundation has done a buyback of 25,000 UNO and we are keeping them off the market forever to increase the rarity by 10%"

The current discussion is more akin to several members of the board saying "you know, we own a lot of this stock already, the price is down, let's individually buy up as much as we can to make the price go up".  Now, this wouldn't be announced in the newspapers, but it would eventually show up on "insider trading" reports.

A third scenario is those board members going "OK, let's set up anonymous off-shore corporate entities and anonymously buy and sell stock of our own company to skirt regulatory reporting requirements, and manipulate the price where we want it to be so we can collect our bonuses, exercise our stock options etc...then we can dump it..."

So three different scenarios.  Your example looks like my scenario 1.  What is being discussed here is more like scenario 2.  It could also be seen as being more like scenario 3 if you guys wanted to hide your hands and make these purchases through new wallets.

My advocacy of discussing it in private is to encourage you not to tip your hand to those who bought at .0029, will be thrilled to dump on you at .004, and then go buy back at .0029 again.

So again, I recommend you discuss this privately.  Your cards are showing.

We're not a board.  We're a loosely knit community - looking to grow.  I'll gladly show my cards; to the long term success of UNO.  Else we might as well fold up and go home now.  (Am I the only idiot who still believes in this coin?)

Seriously, some say this coin is already over.  Then, what are we doing still hanging around here?  Nobody is going to get rich off me doing my small payday buy-ins... (If you think you are, god help you.  God help you, Sir.)

Z
sr. member
Activity: 317
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The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao
Ok, based on the discussion, I will withdraw my public support for the project.

Christ guys, its just a $100.  Just the tiniest blip in a (currently) $300k economy. Its a simple statement of confidence in Uno's future, not a Wolong-style game of deception. But if showing confidence is so dangerous, I'll just take it underground. I'm always ready to buy cheap Uno, funds permitting.

Instead, I will collude privately with my co-conspirators via PM.  Shh. It's a secret.

I'll collude privately, too, next Friday, the 26th.  Concur that it's a simple statement of confidence in Uno's future.

Wish I could say I didn't care if others didn't join in.  But, come hell or high water... You don't have to prove it ... It's only rock 'n' roll

Z ~ a whole $100.  But, I'm not telling you which exchange(s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbqGUTkSJI

P.S.  Bitcoin is busting a move


hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
Lol, Bitcoin pumps and altcoins dump. Pretty much the entire roster of coins on Poloniex is red for today.

Uno be like "meh, not impressed" and does its own thing...  Kiss

Damn you weren't kidding! Here's the top 20



BTW look at the only winner, I knew Bryce was on to something with his joke  Cheesy
BitcoinPlus, lol. I faintly remember that name, had some werid presale shenanigans on Polo back a year or two ago IIRC.

What that image shows IMO is that most UNO owners are long term hodlers and don't really care if Bitcoin makes a move or not. That's a good and a bad thing.
sr. member
Activity: 272
Merit: 251
We should be in the billion dollar club.

Arise chikun, ARISE!
legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
twitter.com/natmcmolecule
Lol, Bitcoin pumps and altcoins dump. Pretty much the entire roster of coins on Poloniex is red for today.

Uno be like "meh, not impressed" and does its own thing...  Kiss

Interesting to look at the Coinmarketcap top 100. 
Altcoins today are almost exactly $1 billion in value,  now grown to 1/6th of the value of Bitcoin.
A coin now needs $1m in value to break into the top 56 in value.


We should be in that $1m club. Make it 57. All in good time I suppose...
legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
twitter.com/natmcmolecule
Lol, Bitcoin pumps and altcoins dump. Pretty much the entire roster of coins on Poloniex is red for today.

Uno be like "meh, not impressed" and does its own thing...  Kiss

Damn you weren't kidding! Here's the top 20



BTW look at the only winner, I knew Bryce was on to something with his joke  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
Lol, Bitcoin pumps and altcoins dump. Pretty much the entire roster of coins on Poloniex is red for today.

Uno be like "meh, not impressed" and does its own thing...  Kiss

Interesting to look at the Coinmarketcap top 100. 
Altcoins today are almost exactly $1 billion in value,  now grown to 1/6th of the value of Bitcoin.
A coin now needs $1m in value to break into the top 56 in value.
hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
Lol, Bitcoin pumps and altcoins dump. Pretty much the entire roster of coins on Poloniex is red for today.

Uno be like "meh, not impressed" and does its own thing...  Kiss
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
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FYI (for you or anyone else who is interested) here is my current load for an electrum server:

Code:
 PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND              
14821 electrum  20   0 1051980  20972   9236 S   0.7  0.5  14:39.17 electrum_uno          
  806 electrum  20   0 2859796  37732  15164 S   0.4  0.9 263:56.06 electrum_myr

current database size for 100 tx depth (default) is 158 MB. Building the database takes a few hours... Edit the config file and your server can join IRC ##electrum-uno, the clients will pick it up from there.

(ignore electrum_myr, it's for Myriad...)

OK so that's very light on everything then.

I have a few Tor relay's running currently. It will be straight forward enough to point a domain name at it, install Let's Encrypt SSL - https://letsencrypt.org/ and link the electrum-server-uno via a Tor hidden_service.

Might as well try to make myself useful. Yet another project for the weekend!  

Just wanted to clarify that I can probably run more than one electrum-server-uno as a Tor 'hidden_service'. One instance likely being dual stack i.e. optionally available over Tor, for increased user accessability and some privacy, whilst also being available over the clearnet.

...

Thank you to everyone who kindly tipped some UNO for the IP nodes I posted.  Cheers!

Also runs fine under i2p for those that use that, but I try to avoid java. I think it required a little proxychains massaging but there are a few i2p exchanges.
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
...

FYI (for you or anyone else who is interested) here is my current load for an electrum server:

Code:
 PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND              
14821 electrum  20   0 1051980  20972   9236 S   0.7  0.5  14:39.17 electrum_uno          
  806 electrum  20   0 2859796  37732  15164 S   0.4  0.9 263:56.06 electrum_myr

current database size for 100 tx depth (default) is 158 MB. Building the database takes a few hours... Edit the config file and your server can join IRC ##electrum-uno, the clients will pick it up from there.

(ignore electrum_myr, it's for Myriad...)

OK so that's very light on everything then.

I have a few Tor relay's running currently. It will be straight forward enough to point a domain name at it, install Let's Encrypt SSL - https://letsencrypt.org/ and link the electrum-server-uno via a Tor hidden_service.

Might as well try to make myself useful. Yet another project for the weekend!  

Just wanted to clarify that I can probably run more than one electrum-server-uno as a Tor 'hidden_service'. One instance likely being dual stack i.e. optionally available over Tor, for increased user accessability and some privacy, whilst also being available over the clearnet.

...

Thank you to everyone who kindly tipped some UNO for the IP nodes I posted.  Cheers!
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Hello to whoever recently connected a node in Jordan.

Also, glad to see one of our Slovak nodes is back.

Hello,

My nodes are always online, but sometimes they are not shown here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!network
I dont know why....

My nodes are

185.50.213.123
185.50.213.124
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
...

FYI (for you or anyone else who is interested) here is my current load for an electrum server:

Code:
 PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND              
14821 electrum  20   0 1051980  20972   9236 S   0.7  0.5  14:39.17 electrum_uno          
  806 electrum  20   0 2859796  37732  15164 S   0.4  0.9 263:56.06 electrum_myr

current database size for 100 tx depth (default) is 158 MB. Building the database takes a few hours... Edit the config file and your server can join IRC ##electrum-uno, the clients will pick it up from there.

(ignore electrum_myr, it's for Myriad...)

OK so that's very light on everything then.

I have a few Tor relay's running currently. It will be straight forward enough to point a domain name at it, install Let's Encrypt SSL - https://letsencrypt.org/ and link the electrum-server-uno via a Tor hidden_service.

Might as well try to make myself useful. Yet another project for the weekend!  
hero member
Activity: 626
Merit: 504
For cryptapus, just some UNO dust for your efforts - was cleaning out wallets and thought you might could use it.

Code:
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Thank you kindly Smiley
full member
Activity: 267
Merit: 109
For cryptapus, just some UNO dust for your efforts - was cleaning out wallets and thought you might could use it.

Code:
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hero member
Activity: 626
Merit: 504
A testnet, towards a better mainnet ... 

Herewith, 2 x UNO and Prototanium (PR) dedicated nodes.

addnode=45.32.32.237

- Tokyo, JP

addnode=45.32.244.201

- Sydney, AU

Full daemon for both wallets running at each IP. Cheers!

Since you're running full nodes, maybe consider helping with an electrum-uno-server as well Smiley

https://cryptap.us/uno/electrum

https://github.com/cryptapus/electrum-server-uno

UNO node tips : ueDjrLVrD8qRFjs4md8izWw9KUpKJogSNt - Thanks! (see the Prototanium thread for PR).

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These two nodes are quite low RAM tbh.

I have an UNO / PR related project in the works that will require another server, so I would be able to host an electrum-uno-server on that for sure. The node will most likely be hosted in Sweden and the project will likely start within a few months, so I will get back to you then.

   Cool

FYI (for you or anyone else who is interested) here is my current load for an electrum server:

Code:
  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND               
14821 electrum  20   0 1051980  20972   9236 S   0.7  0.5  14:39.17 electrum_uno         
  806 electrum  20   0 2859796  37732  15164 S   0.4  0.9 263:56.06 electrum_myr

current database size for 100 tx depth (default) is 158 MB. Building the database takes a few hours... Edit the config file and your server can join IRC ##electrum-uno, the clients will pick it up from there.

(ignore electrum_myr, it's for Myriad...)
hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
Ok, based on the discussion, I will withdraw my public support for the project.
Why, because two guys said they don't like the idea? One of which is me - and you should know by now that whenever it comes to trading you shouldn't listen to me Wink - and the other has a history of ranting about "manipulation" and "insider trading" whenever the community gets together and organizes anything he doesn't control himself. Almost everyone else, universally people I've grown to respect, seem to be on board. So by all means continue and don't make me feel like a party pooper. Tongue
Disclaimer: I will purchase some UNO too very soon, just my guts telling me I shouldn't pre-announce time and date here, that's all.


@BotcoinFX Awesome, thanks for hosting those nodes!
Edit: Tip sent.
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1722
https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF
A testnet, towards a better mainnet ... 

Herewith, 2 x UNO and Prototanium (PR) dedicated nodes.

addnode=45.32.32.237

- Tokyo, JP

addnode=45.32.244.201

- Sydney, AU

Full daemon for both wallets running at each IP. Cheers!

Since you're running full nodes, maybe consider helping with an electrum-uno-server as well Smiley

https://cryptap.us/uno/electrum

https://github.com/cryptapus/electrum-server-uno

UNO node tips : ueDjrLVrD8qRFjs4md8izWw9KUpKJogSNt - Thanks! (see the Prototanium thread for PR).

...

These two nodes are quite low RAM tbh.

I have an UNO / PR related project in the works that will require another server, so I would be able to host an electrum-uno-server on that for sure. The node will most likely be hosted in Sweden and the project will likely start within a few months, so I will get back to you then.

   Cool
hero member
Activity: 626
Merit: 504
A testnet, towards a better mainnet ... 

Herewith, 2 x UNO and Prototanium (PR) dedicated nodes.

addnode=45.32.32.237

- Tokyo, JP

addnode=45.32.244.201

- Sydney, AU

Full daemon for both wallets running at each IP. Cheers!

Since you're running full nodes, maybe consider helping with an electrum-uno-server as well Smiley

https://cryptap.us/uno/electrum

https://github.com/cryptapus/electrum-server-uno
legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
twitter.com/natmcmolecule
Hello to whoever recently connected a node in Jordan.

Also, glad to see one of our Slovak nodes is back.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1076
keybase.io/fallingknife/
A testnet, towards a better mainnet ... 

Herewith, 2 x UNO and Prototanium (PR) dedicated nodes.

addnode=45.32.32.237

- Tokyo, JP

addnode=45.32.244.201

- Sydney, AU

Full daemon for both wallets running at each IP. Cheers!
That is awesome news, BitcoinFX! Thank you for your support!  The more Uno nodes, the merrier.  Post a Uno tip address.
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