Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 585. (Read 1047042 times)

Bullish since 69
Uno exited the inflationary "birthing" cycle in JULY 2014
_{*check FN's chart above}



   
BTC Network Hashrate:
289.62 PH/s
289,620 TH/s

UNO Network Hashrate:
20 TH/s

Wanna take bets on how many and how soon those TH/s start plugging into UNO.net?

Even Wolong couldn't pump UNO for 5 months.   The Uno formula speaks for itself.

Distributed-Vault Coin exists.

HODL  

The jacket I imagine the original Un-core will be sporting in future years.  

Our vocabulary:

see that UNO above March numbers ... is there a single other coin in the top100 that can claim this?

REALITY OF BTC

folks until BTC nears the (2016?) half date ... it's an inflationary turkey!!


The Uno Formula

* Fine Art ... like this idea, the fine art concept goes well with the 'unobtainable' theme ... you should see Kim Jongs collection!
* Income generating land, real estate ... good idea ... we've got N.Korea, and other estates.
* government bonds ...   nope
* hedge funds ... ETF (DVC), the UNO Hedges * check these rockets are getting ready to launch
* venture crypto capital ... coming soon   ... think angel investing in DACs
* private equity ... that is what UNO is ... a TT peer network backed by a globally distributed collective of fund/equity managers ... uno is uno ... the traders are the long investor holding/trading UNO equity "shares" aka "coins" aka "kilos" and managing his/her own private inventory of cash, bullion, land, venture capital, and other entitlements to support UNOs price stability in down cycles.

suggested portfolio 1:1:1
 >> A. traditional very liquid currencies+BTC/LTC+gold/silver ETFs (this is the Junk you seek to sell off)
 >> B. traditional Hard assets held by yourself (this is real gold/silver)
 >> C. crypto capital / venture equity (these are non-inflationary coins, with good community, and solid plan) ... HELLO UNO

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Go Go

D
V
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In Uno veritas

The result will be the most stable crypto trading-pair in existence: Uno/DVC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9558176

I see some popups coins that want to be rare lately  
To made bad imitations of Unobtanium is the same to made funny bad imitations of  Leonardo's Monna Lisa and to want to sell it for original
Premine shits lol
All those "rare" jokes: Rotocoin, Acoin,Aurumcoin have no life simply because the original rare already exist   and is outstanding and unique....who wanna try to create reproductions...lol ...good luck

Many more maybe try to imitate Blazr2  ,but Rare  is here in best possible way!
We have the patent for Rare... We holding all keys,we keeping all the doors. ..It all depends on us now.
Trading responsible!
Uno the community! The keepers of the keys of rare......
We are Unobtanium  community.
 
Spartans you gonna see more and more imitations of Rare in the future. Unobtanium is example that others  want to follow

In Uno  veritas  

My buy orders is fully again  gracias, Danke schön,Oгpoмнoe cпacибo! ཐུགས་རྗེ་ཆེ་།  thank you ladies and gentlemen's

i am very interested in taking a position in OFF.  I've read about it and think it is brilliant; i would consider it as buying art more than currency.  Blazr is a visionary, tapped into something mystical.

I listened to him talk about Skidoo in that one interview, but I need to read up on it again.

'The benefit to UNO users is questionnable' -- yup! It's what I was hinting at yesterday. Just creating an asset doesn't create value (check JL777 and Nxttycoin -- each is a commercial project for which the assets' 'units' -- coins in the currency -- serve as stocks.)

To create a coin that merely 'leverages off' an existing coin is pure fractional reserve banking, which got us into this mess!

(There is a minor possibility of increasing 'interface' with newcomers, but hey, we'll mentor them in Crypto 101!)

mgw? I think -- like any other exchange -- that you gotta apply to be listed. (Beware copycat scams and legit confusion. The NXT SAE is the wild wild west west. There are three 'mgw things'.)

The drawbacks are part and parcel of POS  cryptos: the coins -- the currency, in effect -- is struck on Day One, then it goes well or badly. IMZ has spent long long* hours theorsing this:

absolutely the pivotal problem to solve is that of the 'Bursar's Wallet.' That is, you create an asset with X coins. 10% of X might go into circulation. The rest can be issued -- an inflow of coins with similarities to mining -- from the Bursar's Wallet. Any final excess can be burned.**

* Think kinds thoughts about 'IMZ Ian,' guys. IndiaMikeZulu is unique, an alliance/think-tank. I am the motormouth and theorist, but Ian (an ex-student of mine and good good mate) is equal partner.

** Here's the Bottom Line: the biggest problem in both POW and POS coins is that of unfair distribution. Both distribution systems, mining and 'Bursars' Wallets' can be gamed. Unobtanium is not a good coin because it's POW. It's a good coin because it's a good POW coin. Any Particular POS Coin is not a bad coin because it's POS, but because it's a bad POS!

mgwUNO on SAE isn't real yet, is it? I didn't see Un listed. That would be cool, though.

I've been delving deeper into NXT today. It seems it should be fairly easy to issue an asset for sale from the NXT wallet. You could call it something like "Unobtanium NXT trade tokens." 

It could be "backed" by a strong reputation and Uno put into a visible wallet.
The benefit to NXT users is that it "should" track the price of Uno if there is any interest in it.
The benefit to UNO users is questionnable; it would tie up whatever quantity of Un would be pledged to the asset.

As far as I can tell there are some important drawbacks to issuing NXT assets.
1. You can't issue more of an asset. So if I issue 100 UNO tokens, then that's all there can be. A new issue would require a new asset.
2. You can't recall an asset. So if nobody bought it, the asset just remains out there. Perhaps I could buy it back from myself, effectively locking it up.

It seems that Counterparty has solved both of these problems (#1 and #2), and NXT is interested in doing something similar, but hasn't yet.

Maybe I'll issue a NXT asset for a very small amount of Uno later, just to complete the learning.

M

mgwUNO on SAE

something like that?

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@5 eye still don't get NXT, but starting to get MasterC.  Thinking on kinds of instruments to possibly issue.  All to be part of the TT community but allows outsider looking in to play along.

@1 eye'm paying attention, kinda have been working on something like that myself

Please please digest this text. If anyone in the community has real concerns, I will end the experiment forthwith: This is Big Picture Stuff, aiming to ultimately 'plait together' a range of beneficial practices.

One: if you express interest, we’ll have the world’s first in-house cryptographic currency in place shortly – ‘DCV’: Distributed-Vault Coin. [Thus, the middle ground between the two sides of yesterday's discourse.)

Two: the theory of it will puzzle some people for some time. It’s invitation-only, rewarding those who demonstrate trust and competence, traded only among TT’s on Un-Ex, creating the most stable trading-pair in the crypto realm: Uno/Dvc

Three: (gonna check all these answers) an Nxt asset can’t be recalled.

Four: an Nxt asset – POW folk voyaging into the POS realm! – is automatically listed on the SAE

https://trade.secureae.com/#4551058913252105307 -- SAE

However, almost all trades will be ‘X-WIPs’ – P2P on Un-Ex. [Ian was talking about ‘white label exchanges.’ Anyone understand these?]

Five:

‘I'm unclear if there would be any benefit to the UNO community of issuing an asset on NXT’’

Correct question!!
(a)   It will provide a small ‘anchor’ of price-independence
(b)   All Uno used to trade DVC will remain in the TT community
(c)   It will further our education of, and integration into, the bullion-dealing community – ‘corporate culture’
(d)   It will function as Hedges (theoretically) do, as a trading-instrument – but will be ‘Phase Two’ of Hedges, the cryptographic stage.

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Ok, so making a Un asset on NXT would require trust in the issuer of the asset. That's easy to understand. It's not as though the NXT network can actually escrow the asset (although that would be killer if it could). 

The stuff I'm struggling to grasp is the mechanics of creating it, and the rules that can be applied. For example, can the asset be recalled?  How much of a network fee is applied to trading the asset.  How to list the asset on a nxt exchange.  Can an asset be "pegged" to the price of Un, or do you just declare that we are initially selling 1000 Un @ 150 NXT.

Also I'm unclear if there would be any benefit to the UNO community of issuing an asset on NXT, outside of locking up a quantity of Un.  It might draw trades from current exchanges; unless it's directly convertible for Un, I don't think you could arb any imbalances.  Am I missing something?
Only reason to try this that I can immediately see, would be to further our education in Crypto.  Maybe it goes nowhere, or maybe something unexpected happens.

Perhaps derivitive Un futures and hedges settled in NXT make more sense.

NXT Assets are easy technically, though convincing people of the value and legitimacy of holding behind each Asset is an entirely different scenario. The NXT Wallet has had the ability to create and trade in NXT Assets for some time.

back on this


can be any other stockexchange too. We can also sell it to china or japan.



Winkelvoss not matter. They won't do it for us. I am just an ordinary guy. Not elite at all. 18months+ is to be expected. I just hate wearing suits, that's my biggest issue.


that's why they need uno  


4: not backing uno with ETF - other way: backing ETF with uno. They need to buy before they can trade. ETF needs backing with uno. So no promises involved.
Superblock, i agree

5: forget the wall. Murica smells bad anyways. Currently i don't have the funds to buy 3rd grade companies. Maybe after Uno hit 500$ a piece

Don't worry. Nothing will happen all too fast. I honestly would prefer someone else (whale) takes this up. Mainly because i hate suits and ties. But if nothing gets going i will have to get educated because this is the injection of money that uno needs. Real investing. Not pump and dump. If the fiat-money-system fails the brokers need something to dump their holdings into. Uno ETF would be ideal for that.

If it is not to expensive to get the papers done: why not? Won't hurt us. Nothing changes for the community other than the marketcap and the value of the coins they hold. ETF-traders will not have a say in uno or at least not more than anyone else. Either they like it or they don't. Uno is a DAC


I do take uno for certificates too. I hope it didn't drop because of me  



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i honestly have no idea about all those things. I would have to do serious study. Best would be someone else who has experience with these things would do it. Nothing would change for community as far as i can think. Only uno is better known and traded at the stockexchanges. It's basically what everyone wants. Waiting for massadoption can take another decade. The masses come late but that's not a problem because there are coins for that like VTC, Myriad and others which are on purpose inflationary for a long time. Let the slow people buy franko. We want to moon as soon and hard as possible and not wait for another decade. If we wanted to wait for decades we would buy inflationcoins. 

if you need bootcamp, let me know. 

Blazr2 is
for purposes of whining use this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/should-bryce-weiner-remain-a-dev-of-uno-854092

Is Bryce the developer on this?

if the current seller reads this:

make less sellresistance, smaller walls and remove some from 81 to 83 for the moment, we'll buy you out within days.

Let the trend begin ... I've been following the similar mantra of "Turn cash into BTC, and BTC into UNO quick and fast".
_{*Impatient investor i must be}


And for the genius work of Blazr (the true lead dev thinks i)
perhaps we should all start taking positions on OFF and Skidoos
this is for future tips to Blazr when you are feeling uno-good



My guess is that the low volume will switch to a faster money velocity once UNO reaches $5 / $1M mc

Those of you that trade often should look to trading in a more narrow (weekly) channel.  This will help generate volume while giving stability.  Long investors will still be coming in an putting upward pressure.  And bear whales testing the floor.  But thier price points will be a notch above and below.  So 2 separate markets simultaneously operating.   Eventually you'll see very short term fast markets (1Hr 6Hr) there will be bots making that market ... AI is getting cheaper by the day and UNO offers fair price stability for them to play in.  My quess is that the bots will be buzzing in top of the books in 12months.