Topic: (Unofficial) Litecoindark Thread (LTCD Dead-Officially) - page 7. (Read 9905 times)

I can't find any worry inside myself about whether anyone chooses to *THINK* LTCD is dead or not. Facts is facts. Blockchain still going strong, transfers nice and quick, coins trading on the exchanges, behind the scenes work getting done. LTCD is alive, regardless of any opinion.

Long term - now that I can help you with. Hold if you got. Get if you don't have. Project is making progress, but will be maybe a couple months for the Gen 2 rewrite. Some little things will happen along the way, but the bigger stuff can't happen until Gen 2 code portion is finished. Can't really give any accurate time estimates on when which things will become available, just general estimates. It's no small thing.

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Discussion is fine, but general conversation does not belong in the main [ANN] topic. I don't quite know when people started allowing general discussion in [ANNOUNCEMENT] topics, but it isn't proper. [ANN] is for technical discussion and official announcements. All other conversations should be in a topic separate from the [ANN]. I know it happens in all the other coin topics and used to be in the LTCD [ANN]. Doesn't make it right. I fixed it.

Won't many people just think it's dead this way? Better some discussion then not being able to discuss anything.

What do you suggest long term?

The official thread is locked because there is nothing official to discuss or announce. Leaving it open has only resulted in trolls and other no-goodnicks trashing the place.

I can't really give you any solid advice on what to do with what is yours. I could make suggestions, but I don't know what your goals and strategy are.

Vivelcro why is the official thread locked? What to do with our coins?

You simply don't understand that it's not important what YOU want. LTCD would have been gone on Nov 18 if somebody hadn't stepped in to keep it going. The entire coin has to be rewritten and you weren't going to be the one to do it, now were you?

I have decided for myself that I am concerned about what the community wants BY MY OWN CHOICE. Doesn't mean I decided that you crying about it was important even the slightest bit. None of it is truly important in any way shape or form. The disposition of my health and my immortal soul do NOT depend on any human desire, so what the community wants is not ultimately important any further than I choose to consider. You are making this way bigger of an issue than it is.

Seriously, you've boo hoo'd about your coin value more than once. Here's a tip for you - cash out now and take your 0.06032757 BTC ($11.76 USD) to another coin or buy a Happy Meal. You'll get over it and be much better off. It's bothering you too much and isn't good for your stress level.

If $11.76 is such a huge issue for you, you would have been better off NOT buying any crypto. It's just not that much money, dude. You weren't going to become a millionaire with that nest egg, really.

For all the time you've spent slinging your sob story, you could have mowed a lawn or shoveled some snow and gotten a better return than you would get trading $11.76 on any exchange.

In comparison, I've lost nearly $15000 USD of other coins due to market value dropping in the past 10 days. I'm sure you give a huge flying fuck about that. Well, that's how I feel about your $11.76 USD. No fucks flown or given. Personally, I do not possess a single LTCD at this time, so in that regard - you ARE rich compared to me. Which one of us is flipping out of their wig about it? I'll give you a hint - it ain't ME.

And lastly, about your "5 minutes" comment:
You were the one making such a big deal about me not spending time here but dev'ing instead BUT at the same time you bash me for having not communicated. Well, buddy. I've communicated plenty. Public posts and a string of PM replies to your silly ass bullshit whining about $11.76 USD. Fortunately, for me to pick one individual (you) and put a browser up on my 3rd monitor has NOT been too taxing on my time because I have 2 more monitors with other things open and running while you spend 40+ minutes waiting for yer mommy to think up comebacks for you to post at the big bad mean old man. So, really not a major hardship for me.

Today was your lucky day, princess. Let it go, move along, find your vaj eye nah (just sniff around, won't take you long) and rub it till it stops itching.

You simply don't understand that it's not important what YOU want, it's what the community wants..... yeah, 5 minutes.....

I won't contest or contradict your opinion that I am a strange person. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.

I only put a few minutes of my time in here on this occasion. Those ENTIRE few minutes WERE put into COMMUNICATION, you moron. No, bashing and PMs won't disappear.

I will continue to stand on my previous statement. Glad to see you noticed that.

Your assertion about what is ridiculous (by your own words) is dependent on the *IF* part of whether I want an active community.... Well, that's an assumption you made and it is definitely flawed. Nowhere have I ever said that I specifically wanted an active community. I have said that I will step in to preserve LTCD so you all didn't lose your entire bag of coins. I have said that my goal is to achieve as many of the features that the community ALREADY SAID they wanted BEFORE the current team existed. I have clearly said that I do not want any more added to the list of features UNTIL the current list has been taken care of as best as can be achieved. It makes no sense for anyone to pile on more work when the previous work from the prior devs was never completed. First things first. Why is that so hard for your brain cell to comprehend?

Don't make any assumptions about what my intentions are. Don't misinterpret my words. Don't put words in my mouth or into my posts. Don't project your masturbatory coin fantasies onto me or my team. What you personally expect and what I provide are quite probably two different things. Find a way to make yourself comfortable with that and you will find that you will be upsetting YOURSELF much less intensely.

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Quoted you before you could delete your shit, this time, bitch.
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Not to me, you didn't. You are either mistaken regarding which coin you offered to assist or perhaps you made your offer to the prior devs.

Your mistake, not mine.

Now, in regard to the most recently quoted shit from you:

The website doesn't need translation, but thanks anyway.
Your current offer to take over taking care of anything is respectfully declined, thank you very much.
I am not alone - I have chosen my immediate team already.
I should be the only one making decisions because my name is on all the legal paperwork and I am responsible for it going forward.
I am open to suggestions (except yours) but the final decisions will be determined by me.
Cryptos fail because people are greedy and kill their own golden goose.
One person does not mean centralization.
You don't understand the meaning of the words you throw around.

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I forgot to say: You are an idiot. Do yourself a favor and remain silent. I'll be disregarding you anyways, but you can save yourself some public embarrassment.

Still won't deal with the issue YOU started? Big surprise.

Until you respond back telling us all WHAT YOU HAVE OFFERED TO CONTRIBUTE "by working together" - I have nothing to say to you aside from Fuck You and the Horse that Rode Up In You.

I offered a lot man, I offered to translate the website, I offered taking over taking care of the thread with guidelines, yet you want everything in YOUR manner, yet you aren't alone and shouldn't be one person makiing all decisions, that's how crypto's fails, one person means centralization....

Unbelievable what a strange person you are, yet all this time you put in here, put a fraction of that into communication, and poef all bashing and PM's dissapear, yet you want to remain with you previous statement, which is just simply ridiculous iof you want an active community,,,

Come on, man. I see the green light that says you are still online. I know you've seen my challenge. 28 35 40+ minutes later, you're still fiddle-fucking around with mommy trying to get her help with a comeback.

Let's do this. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10149724

-much time has passed-

Screw it. You're a mouthy coward and your panties are bunched up too tight. I got things to do. You're on your own. Mutherfuck me all you like. I'm a volunteer rescuer, I didn't create LTCD. A bit of thanks would have been cool. Silence would have been perfectly OK by me. But lies and bullshit aren't fine by me. Piss me off enough and you can stuff your coins up your ass and whistle Dixie.

You and I both know that isn't true. You PM'd me. I replied back with much detail. You came back all hostile and diaper full of dirty doo doo. My second reply to you was quite severely profane and grumpy. You earned it, so you got it.

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You didn't answer my question. I took my turn. You then resorted to name calling and said I'm autistic - but you avoided the subject YOU brought up. Now take your turn. You called me out. You wanted to play. Now I'm here and I brought the bat. Have you got the balls, Twinkie?

The question that you conveniently avoided was the first question I turned back around on you (and you quoted it in your own reply, so don't deny you were asked, the proof that you brought it up and that I asked you is in the box just a few lines down):
And just WHAT work have you offered to do? Cuss me out? Insult me? Bait me with loaded questions that you can misquote me on at a later time? Gee, thanks dude. Luv Ya.

dude is really authistic... I didn't cuz you out, untill you came with complete nonsens...

As a matter of fact, I am the only one who can decide. So, I guess that means you are wrong.



And just WHAT work have you offered to do? Cuss me out? Insult me? Bait me with loaded questions that you can misquote me on at a later time? Gee, thanks dude. Luv Ya.

Currently, I hold more than 50k

You just don't understnad that you aint the only one who can decide, if you wish to make a coin a succes, but working together isn't in your dictionary I guess....

Dude you have some serious issues, read your text back, insane assclown talk

I don't do the Steve Jobs hypish style of management. I don't announce the unforeseeable future.

Nothing has changed since the last update I gave you, so there's nothing new to say.

I do not want every type of discussion in the development thread. It is too common with the scam coins - posting BS 'coming soon' nonsense and letting the P&D trolls scream 'MOON' or cry 'CRASH' to manipulate price by inducing euphoria or panic. I disapprove of pumping and I disapprove of dumping. Artificially driving price is theft by fraud. A natural market price based on people making their own decision to buy or sell without any influence from others is the best way to avoid ANYONE scamming or getting scammed. However, I am a free speech type of person. People can speak freely in some other topic. Doing so will be almost useless because nobody except the scammers will go to those topics. I will not have the dev topic be perverted in favor of the crooks.

The reason I am getting bombarded is because I won't let the scammers do their dance in the dev topic, so they bribe, extort and threaten via PM.

As far as the emails I'm waiting for - I'm still waiting. So, really there's nothing worth telling about. Unless you think 'NOTHING' is worth telling.

The dev does not have a responsibility to provide info regarding what's going on WHEN NOTHING IS GOING ON. Genuine coin devs don't report NOTHING. Only the shit coins have devs that act like twitter-freak PR bitches. Those devs pump and dump their own coin and run off with premines as well as community members' coins when it all goes south. You won't see me acting like that.

Everyone who is invested had already done so long before my time came. LTCD was originally created as a clone pump and dump. When the main team was on the edge of abandoning everyone, myself and a few others came forward to try and keep LTCD alive and get it moving forward. There never was any Gen 2, it turns out. Everything prior to November 24 was all lies.

Fixing this is going to take a while. So strap in or bail out. There is no way to successfully rush this. It has to be redone from scratch. Completely from ground zero.

There will be nothing major to share for a while. The name "LiteCoinDark" has to be abandoned. It was a poor choice from the beginning. Just an attempt to ride on somebody else's name. That somebody else "Litecoin" is going to hell in a handbasket and it has already caused a serious problem.

LTCD was never 'very promising'. It just seemed that way because the lies were plausible combined with greed and hope of the buyers in an alt-coin frenzy. Don't believe me? Pull the source code directly from Robbert's github and have it looked at by somebody you trust. There is nothing special about it. I've had code reviewers looking at it since Nov 28, and they say it is a shit clone. I looked at it, and I say it is a shit clone. It was a sham and a scam. I'm hoping to fix that.

In all 100% honesty, alt-coins are dead and simply haven't been buried yet because people are clutching too tightly to a lost cause. Gen 2 is the only way to survive and it must include usability. Not just market trading and dice sites. Retail acceptance is absolutely necessary for survival. In order to have any chance at retail acceptance, LTCD needs a name change and a complete rewrite to make it Gen 2 that is secure and has features everyone WILL use. Not obscure shit that only 1% or less would even understand.

The PR man for this coin has been busy with college exams and an unrelated project that existed prior to his involvement with LTCD. That's why you haven't seen any flowery Shakespearian announcements. I know people like pretty tweets and pretty fluff-posts, but that's not my bag. When the PR guy can get himself clear of prior obligations, he can post 'Two Bee oar Knot Two Bee' crapola all over the topic. Girls will get wet and dudes will get stiffies.

Or, if I continue having problems getting a solid TEAM of coders to begin fresh on Gen 2, I'll hand it all back to Robbert and let him finish raping everyone.

Truly, I'm being 100% hones with you - you won't be getting any hype from me. Nobody is going to convince me to make a community post about anything until *I* feel that there is something solid and finished in my hand to post about. I'm not mentioning any TEAM until I have the TEAM selected and under contract. I'm not posting any advance info about features. Feature updates will be posted after they've been implemented and known to be working.

PoS, for instance. I'm not even going to guess at a date when it will be available. PoS will be working and implemented in test wallets and ACTIVE on the blockchain first, then I'll tell everyone to update their wallets. Instant success, by that method, and no reason for anyone to be repeatedly disappointed.

Yes, my style is different. I'm not interested in screwing anyone out of their lunch money. I'm not interested in fame or popularity. I'm interested in results, if they can be had. I'm interested in talking about the job when the job is finished, not before it is done. Odd, I know.

I want this coin to be one of the 10 survivors from the alt-scam scene. So, this coin has to be different and the leadership has to behave different than the others have been.

My best advice to you, because you seem to want fast results that won't be coming, is to sell off now and buy bitcoin or hold fiat. Check back in 3 to 6 months.

I understand that most people are sheep and they WANT to be mislead. They prefer empty dreams and false hope, instead of reality. Reality sucks and it's no fun.

I understand that it is much easier for manipulators to pull off their cons and scams when they can post in the dev topics where all the victims will be hanging out. Much harder for them to pull their shit off when they have to make their own topics that almost nobody will visit.

That's why the dev thread is only for news about what is DONE. Not about what is coming or what anyone thinks about it.

I don't want there to be a lot to read. I want it to be bare bones minimum, so important information and details don't end up getting buried under bullshit.

As far as "Everything there is to know about the coin" - That won't include discussion about price, hype, FUD, trolling, etc. Anybody who wants that shit can use the search function and find whatever topic might exist for that kind of stuff.

That won't change. Crap will not be acceptable in the dev topic ever. No need to suggest it or discuss it. My decision is firm, in that regard. The only info in the dev topic will be official announcements and specific discussion relating exclusively to the technical issues AFTER they exist and each one is complete (no pre-announcements and no cheerleading). All business. No jerking around and nobody getting jerked around.

Quote from: Furio on 12 January 2015, 21:55:25
BTW, can't you understand it somewhere that most people find it much easier and more convenient to get all their info via one thread, yeah it's a lot to read, but the real interested see EVERYTHING there is to know about the coin

The current dev team does not have any LTCD. If you will recall, the whole reason the previous devs handed LTCD over was because the dev funds vanished on their watch.

The only funds available are what BitcoinOperatedBoy, Myself, and one other community member put in. Our funds that we donated into the dev wallet. We haven't sold any of those. Every single transaction into or out of the current wallets have been publicly posted with transaction IDs.

Your post is false and misleading. You've had PM contact with me. You know very well that we've been entirely honest about funds.

Why did you not mention that I replied to your PM with information about the team, the holiday delays, getting the to-do list (that was never completed by the prior devs) finished and then "DONE" being the next updated official post? Why didn't you mention that I clearly informed you about the extended time that will be required for those things to be completed? Why did you deliberately leave that unsaid? It's been days since you've had my PM reply with all of that.

What is your motive for being two-faced and fake? Are you possibly just maybe trying to manipulate the market price, somehow? Tell your community. It's fine by me if your motive is price-oriented. Just be honest about it.

Don't try playing your BS off on me or any of the other team members. We're busy getting work done and tired of the general cryptocommunity trend of hyping and talking all day and then wondering why things haven't been done. I personally decided to leave the official topic locked, after the holiday, so we can have time to get important things done without interruption. You neglected to mention that to your community, even though you were given that information by me personally.

If you or anyone else here wants LTCD dead, just keep on posting what you're posting. If you don't want it dead, consider that you influence your own reality by your choice of words. Speak poorly, things will go poorly. Speak with optimism, and better things are more likely to transpire. You have an audience of your own, here. Choose wisely what you include in the content of your diatribes.

I won't be here to see your reply. Your topic, you spew whatever you want, I guess. Good or bad, your words are your own and people WILL remember where you lead or mislead them.

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While proofreading, I realize I forgot to say 'Fuck' anywhere. So, 'Fuck'. There, I feel so much better now.

-Cheerio