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Oldminer

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Quote from: Rannasha on October 21, 2013, 06:22:54 AM

Just because it's beyond your power of comprehension, doesn't make it a scam. Come with proper arguments if you want to convince anyone, since the post about provable fairness you quoted in your thread is just a question that was thoroughly answered and no proof of anything.

I comprehend it very well, which is why I know its a scam. Its those that don't understand the 'concept' that think its valid, since on the surface it does look very good. But the devil is in the detail.

User ASICSRUS has pointed out the 'phoniness' in your 'concept' and has even gone as far to say he can PROVE its a sham (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311404.80), yet you choose to ignore his posts and continue with your circle jerk.

Bitwincasino will not be signing up to this 'unprovably fair' concept since its nothing more than a scam.

thanks

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Quote from: b!z on October 21, 2013, 08:42:36 AM

Bitwincasino.com seems very sketchy to me. The admins have suggested that the software is designed to cheat if the casino is in a losing streak. With Noitev's additional evidence, I would recommend that people do not deposit and play in this casino, until the admins add provable fairness to the games.

After reading this I'm not even bothering to play with free btc. I'll stick with bit777 for now.

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I facepalm inside every time someone says provably fair is a scam. Mostly because their just too stupid to understand it/running a scam.

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Bitwincasino.com seems very sketchy to me. The admins have suggested that the software is designed to cheat if the casino is in a losing streak. With Noitev's additional evidence, I would recommend that people do not deposit and play in this casino, until the admins add provable fairness to the games.

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Quote from: TheNewAnon135246 on October 21, 2013, 07:37:41 AM

I'll check the site out since he is going to send me some coins for free. I'll post later to tell you how it went :p

He did the same for me and it didn't go well. min withdrawal is 5x your bonus it doesn't seem like it's possible to hit that with it.

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I'll check the site out since he is going to send me some coins for free. I'll post later to tell you how it went :p

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Damn. I feel sorry for the people who gamble there.

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This is by far the best quote:

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It's fine, I have undeniable proof that they are cheating their customers so it doesn't matter.

go to Casinowebscripts.com which is the software maker

they have documentation for the software there:

https://www.casinowebscripts.com/doc/backend.pdf

Go to page 5

Play For Real Percent
Influences how often a player will win in real mode.
Set this to 100% and the players will have random chances to win, depending on how the cards/symbols are positioned on the screen. The games will pay only if the bank has enough money to pay, otherwise the games will generate a combination of
cards/symbols so that the player will lose.

Randomness Play For Fun Percent
Influences how often a player will win in fun mode.

They admit that the games will pay losing combinations if the bankroll is too small. In addition, the games that play for fun have higher win rates than games for real money. Avoid this casino like the plague.

If you read on, you can see the system were they have a "98% return" by going to page 6. Basically the casino takes 2% of your money regardless of what happens in the game. If the player pool is empty, it refills it by making you lose.

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Quote from: Oldminer on October 21, 2013, 06:20:48 AM

Quote from: Mitchell on October 21, 2013, 06:15:07 AM

They keep deleting my posts, which is very strange, because they said they wouldn't remove negative feedback Roll Eyes

You continue to spam the thread with posts on 'provable fairness'. I stated in my thread that, in my opinion, this concept is nothing more than a scam peddled by a few 'believers'. I stated that the discussion on it would end in my thread. You continued to spam. Your posts were deleted. Simple.

Lol whut? Spam? I just said that fair is not provably fair. That is all I said about that subject.
Provably fair a scam? Dafuck is wrong with you?

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Quote from: Oldminer on October 21, 2013, 06:20:48 AM

Quote from: Mitchell on October 21, 2013, 06:15:07 AM

They keep deleting my posts, which is very strange, because they said they wouldn't remove negative feedback Roll Eyes

You continue to spam the thread with posts on 'provable fairness'. I stated in my thread that, in my opinion, this concept is nothing more than a scam peddled by a few 'believers'. I stated that the discussion on it would end in my thread. You continued to spam. Your posts were deleted. Simple.

Just because it's beyond your power of comprehension, doesn't make it a scam. Come with proper arguments if you want to convince anyone, since the post about provable fairness you quoted in your thread is just a question that was thoroughly answered and no proof of anything.

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Quote from: Mitchell on October 21, 2013, 06:15:07 AM

They keep deleting my posts, which is very strange, because they said they wouldn't remove negative feedback Roll Eyes

You continue to spam the thread with posts on 'provable fairness'. I stated in my thread that, in my opinion, this concept is nothing more than a scam peddled by a few 'believers'. I stated that the discussion on it would end in my thread. You continued to spam. Your posts were deleted. Simple.

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I have had several of my posts deleted from the thread, all concerning provably fair betting. The operator apparently doesn't understand the concept of provable fairness and calls it a scam to trick customers. He links to a post from another thread on provable fairness which contains a question about how it prevents the website from fixing the rolls and uses that as evidence for his claim, despite the question (and followups to it) being answered in great detail by several people later on in that thread.

I would avoid bitwincasino.com.

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They keep deleting my posts, which is very strange, because they said they wouldn't remove negative feedback Roll Eyes

Quote from: Oldminer on October 20, 2013, 03:37:44 PM

Quote from: dooglus on October 20, 2013, 02:58:35 PM

Quote from: Oldminer on October 20, 2013, 02:56:43 PM

Heads or tails? What ill it be?

Is this one fair? It seems a simple coin toss would be easy enough to program to be fair.

Or does it make sure the player loses if the casino has been unlucky recently?

All the games are fair.

The casino has a 98% payout, so for every 100 credits bet, 98 are put back into the prize pool.

Fair =/= provably fair. Can you prove that a game is fair?

Long live self moderated topics Grin

What about the comment you made earlier about not deleting negative posts? Roll Eyes

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