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Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 109. (Read 433405 times)

legendary
Activity: 1554
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When I go to the waffle store and they are on sale I buy more waffles than originally intended. The problem is the waffles aren't always on sale due to decreased waffle production which causes the price to rise. Cool

Thank you for your support.

But usually those waffles are stale or not as fresh  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
When I go to the waffle store and they are on sale I buy more waffles than originally intended. The problem is the waffles aren't always on sale due to decreased waffle production which causes the price to rise. Cool

Thank you for your support.

JC IN DA HOUUUUUSEEE  Cool
sr. member
Activity: 596
Merit: 251
When I go to the waffle store and they are on sale I buy more waffles than originally intended. The problem is the waffles aren't always on sale due to decreased waffle production which causes the price to rise. Cool

Thank you for your support.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1011
Or probably these are big holders/miners selling little by little as soon as any substantial support appears. They don't want the price to fall too fast because they want to sell their coins at maximum price possible.

I think it would be insane for any pumper to make a move now when so many people want to sell at 100-200K.

The ones who really want to sell will put many smaller sell orders and over week or two he could sell substantial amount without hurting the market.
This what you are saying is not what is happening here, definetly not... or sellers are realy stupid which I highly doubt.


It very well could be miners. Not everyone who mines holds the all the coins they mine long term.

If you are larger miner you may need to sell some amount on a regular basis to cover your expenses, mainly electrical costs. So even if you do mine and hold, you may need to sell 60-75% on a regular basis to offset mining costs.

I have a few miners going at my house 24/7 and they add approximately $200/mo to my electric bill. I will sell approximately 1 BTC's worth at current rates each month, usually trying to spread it out to hit higher prices, just to offset my electricity costs. I still end up with a decent amount to hold onto longer term, without having to risk as much.


Not impossible, and some miners really do just dump everything without much trading thought. But this is too stupid. Within a few minutes of a rise the dump comes, VNL looked like rising quite a bit but the setiment is cut down with an axe by these little instant dumps.

I should clarify, I do not think every sell is a miner, there is a bot on Polo at work all the time too. I just mean a good amount of fresh coins comes into existence each day that will amplify the selling pressure already in play. Once the block reward gets cut a few more times, these effects should lessen, but for now I believe it is multiple factors causing the mini dumps. One of which is of course miners looking to recoup some of their operating expenses.
full member
Activity: 207
Merit: 100
Its probably miners, mostly Idcray maybe?!

They still have more than half the network hash. Figure with 86400 seconds in a day, and figure blocks at around 200 seconds each roughly, would put around 31000 coins a day from mining. Idcray gets probably around 15-20k coins a day from their mining hashpower. Thats around 5-7btc everyday they dump on top of anyone else mining that dumps ( another 5-6btc ), and any other portion of their stash that Idcray wants to dump. With low volume days around 20-30btc it will keep price down abit.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Or probably these are big holders/miners selling little by little as soon as any substantial support appears. They don't want the price to fall too fast because they want to sell their coins at maximum price possible.

I think it would be insane for any pumper to make a move now when so many people want to sell at 100-200K.

The ones who really want to sell will put many smaller sell orders and over week or two he could sell substantial amount without hurting the market.
This what you are saying is not what is happening here, definetly not... or sellers are realy stupid which I highly doubt.


It very well could be miners. Not everyone who mines holds the all the coins they mine long term.

If you are larger miner you may need to sell some amount on a regular basis to cover your expenses, mainly electrical costs. So even if you do mine and hold, you may need to sell 60-75% on a regular basis to offset mining costs.

I have a few miners going at my house 24/7 and they add approximately $200/mo to my electric bill. I will sell approximately 1 BTC's worth at current rates each month, usually trying to spread it out to hit higher prices, just to offset my electricity costs. I still end up with a decent amount to hold onto longer term, without having to risk as much.


Not impossible, and some miners really do just dump everything without much trading thought. But this is too stupid. Within a few minutes of a rise the dump comes, VNL looked like rising quite a bit but the setiment is cut down with an axe by these little instant dumps.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1011
Or probably these are big holders/miners selling little by little as soon as any substantial support appears. They don't want the price to fall too fast because they want to sell their coins at maximum price possible.

I think it would be insane for any pumper to make a move now when so many people want to sell at 100-200K.

The ones who really want to sell will put many smaller sell orders and over week or two he could sell substantial amount without hurting the market.
This what you are saying is not what is happening here, definetly not... or sellers are realy stupid which I highly doubt.


It very well could be miners. Not everyone who mines holds the all the coins they mine long term.

If you are larger miner you may need to sell some amount on a regular basis to cover your expenses, mainly electrical costs. So even if you do mine and hold, you may need to sell 60-75% on a regular basis to offset mining costs.

I have a few miners going at my house 24/7 and they add approximately $200/mo to my electric bill. I will sell approximately 1 BTC's worth at current rates each month, usually trying to spread it out to hit higher prices, just to offset my electricity costs. I still end up with a decent amount to hold onto longer term, without having to risk as much.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Wallet version 0.3.3 BETA released: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/204/version-0-3-3-beta-release/1

Changes:

Reduced outbound TCP bandwidth significantly
User configurable options are now available on Mac OS X and Windows
ZeroTime is enabled by default on Android and iOS
ZeroTime can be enabled by default on Mac OS X and Windows
General Bug Fixes

http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php

Buying time bitches...

Maybe it's just common manipulation but there is some serious trading opposition to VNL on Polinex. Within a minute or two of any rise someone dumps prematurely. This isn't just taking profits or bag holders this is a serious effort to keep the rice down. Why? Maybe just to accumulate more but it could be more sinister, even interests like ETH wanting to kill competition?

All I know is it's definitely there and people should take advantage of it and buy the crap out of the dumps. we need to get on another exchange with decent vol.
The people selling had to buy before. I believe this is somewhat day-trading.
This is good for the coins since it provide liquidity. VNL has rather good liquidity for a while, which is good for the coin (18th in trading volume in coinmarketcap for today, and it has done far better at times).



Bullshit is that day trading. Day traders when they see a coin can easily move up they don't dump instantly on a rise. Ive never seen such aggressive dumping on a coin. The only reason you do that is to keep the price down, why? that's open for debate....simple accumulation by a whale is of course the most likeliest.

The reasonably decent vol validates my point, no coin real low in marketcap is constant in the top 10 on polinex vol like VNL is. The price is static but coins are definetly being bought at a reasonable pace.


Annoying as it is....this is only a good sign, keep buying if someone or group wants to play this game.

When price starts to move up manipulator instantly make massive dump to his own buy orders and move buy support little lower in hope that with massive dump he will provoke panic sales. The thing is almost noone falls for that, and I can say that some of those guys could lose their sell wals because you cant hold this kind of coin on low level to long. Acummulation is one thing but this becomes vicious, and anyone saying this is healthy is on the same agenda as those manipulators.




Well I hope you didn't think my comments made it seem like ai thought it was healthy. I'm just saying if this is the situation then capitalise on it. A plus if anyone is that desperate to hold the price down then they must see VNL as either a threat or want to accumulate cheap....this is still I think a good sign. I absolutely dont think it's healthy though which is why some posts back I suggested that the community pushs through these levels and buys...ie calling the manipulators bluff.
hero member
Activity: 829
Merit: 1000
Or probably these are big holders/miners selling little by little as soon as any substantial support appears. They don't want the price to fall too fast because they want to sell their coins at maximum price possible.

I think it would be insane for any pumper to make a move now when so many people want to sell at 100-200K.

The ones who really want to sell will put many smaller sell orders and over week or two he could sell substantial amount without hurting the market.
This what you are saying is not what is happening here, definetly not... or sellers are realy stupid which I highly doubt.
hero member
Activity: 690
Merit: 500
Or probably these are big holders/miners selling little by little as soon as any substantial support appears. They don't want the price to fall too fast because they want to sell their coins at maximum price possible.

I think it would be insane for any pumper to make a move now when so many people want to sell at 100-200K.
hero member
Activity: 829
Merit: 1000
Wallet version 0.3.3 BETA released: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/204/version-0-3-3-beta-release/1

Changes:

Reduced outbound TCP bandwidth significantly
User configurable options are now available on Mac OS X and Windows
ZeroTime is enabled by default on Android and iOS
ZeroTime can be enabled by default on Mac OS X and Windows
General Bug Fixes

http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php

Buying time bitches...

Maybe it's just common manipulation but there is some serious trading opposition to VNL on Polinex. Within a minute or two of any rise someone dumps prematurely. This isn't just taking profits or bag holders this is a serious effort to keep the rice down. Why? Maybe just to accumulate more but it could be more sinister, even interests like ETH wanting to kill competition?

All I know is it's definitely there and people should take advantage of it and buy the crap out of the dumps. we need to get on another exchange with decent vol.
The people selling had to buy before. I believe this is somewhat day-trading.
This is good for the coins since it provide liquidity. VNL has rather good liquidity for a while, which is good for the coin (18th in trading volume in coinmarketcap for today, and it has done far better at times).



Bullshit is that day trading. Day traders when they see a coin can easily move up they don't dump instantly on a rise. Ive never seen such aggressive dumping on a coin. The only reason you do that is to keep the price down, why? that's open for debate....simple accumulation by a whale is of course the most likeliest.

The reasonably decent vol validates my point, no coin real low in marketcap is constant in the top 10 on polinex vol like VNL is. The price is static but coins are definetly being bought at a reasonable pace.


Annoying as it is....this is only a good sign, keep buying if someone or group wants to play this game.

When price starts to move up manipulator instantly make massive dump to his own buy orders and move buy support little lower in hope that with massive dump he will provoke panic sales. The thing is almost noone falls for that, and I can say that some of those guys could lose their sell wals because you cant hold this kind of coin on low level to long. Acummulation is one thing but this becomes vicious, and anyone saying this is healthy is on the same agenda as those manipulators.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
support looking good!  Cool
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo
Massive dumping is coming. Look at the sell walls. I am putting my buy order at 25k looking for cheap coins.

bittrex became a crap exchange.
currently any little fish can manipulate the prices of any currency there
poloniex managed to surpass it in quality and volume
but is a good time to buy on bittrex now
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM
Massive dumping is coming. Look at the sell walls. I am putting my buy order at 25k looking for cheap coins.

Uhm, the same walls that are there since several days while the price doesn't move from 30k sats +-2k sats?

You should have learned by now that no one cares on random investment advice on BTT, it just spams the thread. Same goes for moon talk.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
Massive dumping is coming. Look at the sell walls. I am putting my buy order at 25k looking for cheap coins.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Can you get the chinese translations? You could send it to John directly and talk with him or send it over to me and I'll pm him. We got some additional translations waiting also, but it wasn't priority. Now it would be the time.

I will check on this getting translated. Feedback from China is that basically they can't read/use the English wallet very well. Seeing some attempts at "guides" springing up. Problem is I don't know of a solid translator.

I'm in for a bounty for a trusted chinese member of the VNL community, duno what the prices would be, but seeing as we were up for the doublespend bounty also doubt it would be an issue. If you could find one and ask for a price that would be great.

Hey Traum,

ACoin provided the following translations!

Donations address for Acoin:

VkwxboKXTuRmRBdnu16qLngaadQ8tFPJ4R

vanillacoin  韦恩币
account  账户
balance  余额
unconfirmed  未确认
stake  股权
immature  未成熟
connected 已连接
connectting  连接中

transfer  发送
pay  币数
to   支付地址
zerotime 瞬时转币
send  发送

history  交易记录
date  时间
status  状态
amount  币数

statistics  统计
network TCP    网络TCP
network UDP    网络UDP
blocks estimated  块预估量
blocks total  块总量
difficulty   难度
money supply  总量

addresses  地址
console  控制台
mining 挖矿
start 开始
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Wallet version 0.3.3 BETA released: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/204/version-0-3-3-beta-release/1

Changes:

Reduced outbound TCP bandwidth significantly
User configurable options are now available on Mac OS X and Windows
ZeroTime is enabled by default on Android and iOS
ZeroTime can be enabled by default on Mac OS X and Windows
General Bug Fixes

http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php

Buying time bitches...

Maybe it's just common manipulation but there is some serious trading opposition to VNL on Polinex. Within a minute or two of any rise someone dumps prematurely. This isn't just taking profits or bag holders this is a serious effort to keep the rice down. Why? Maybe just to accumulate more but it could be more sinister, even interests like ETH wanting to kill competition?

All I know is it's definitely there and people should take advantage of it and buy the crap out of the dumps. we need to get on another exchange with decent vol.
The people selling had to buy before. I believe this is somewhat day-trading.
This is good for the coins since it provide liquidity. VNL has rather good liquidity for a while, which is good for the coin (18th in trading volume in coinmarketcap for today, and it has done far better at times).



Bullshit is that day trading. Day traders when they see a coin can easily move up they don't dump instantly on a rise. Ive never seen such aggressive dumping on a coin. The only reason you do that is to keep the price down, why? that's open for debate....simple accumulation by a whale is of course the most likeliest.

The reasonably decent vol validates my point, no coin real low in marketcap is constant in the top 10 on polinex vol like VNL is. The price is static but coins are definetly being bought at a reasonable pace.


Annoying as it is....this is only a good sign, keep buying if someone or group wants to play this game.
sr. member
Activity: 445
Merit: 255
Wallet version 0.3.3 BETA released: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/204/version-0-3-3-beta-release/1

Changes:

Reduced outbound TCP bandwidth significantly
User configurable options are now available on Mac OS X and Windows
ZeroTime is enabled by default on Android and iOS
ZeroTime can be enabled by default on Mac OS X and Windows
General Bug Fixes

http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php

Buying time bitches...


Maybe it's just common manipulation but there is some serious trading opposition to VNL on Polinex. Within a minute or two of any rise someone dumps prematurely. This isn't just taking profits or bag holders this is a serious effort to keep the rice down. Why? Maybe just to accumulate more but it could be more sinister, even interests like ETH wanting to kill competition?

All I know is it's definitely there and people should take advantage of it and buy the crap out of the dumps. we need to get on another exchange with decent vol.
The people selling had to buy before. I believe this is somewhat day-trading.
This is good for the coins since it provide liquidity. VNL has rather good liquidity for a while, which is good for the coin (18th in trading volume in coinmarketcap for today, and it has done far better at times).
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Wallet version 0.3.3 BETA released: https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/204/version-0-3-3-beta-release/1

Changes:

Reduced outbound TCP bandwidth significantly
User configurable options are now available on Mac OS X and Windows
ZeroTime is enabled by default on Android and iOS
ZeroTime can be enabled by default on Mac OS X and Windows
General Bug Fixes

http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php

Buying time bitches...


Maybe it's just common manipulation but there is some serious trading opposition to VNL on Polinex. Within a minute or two of any rise someone dumps prematurely. This isn't just taking profits or bag holders this is a serious effort to keep the rice down. Why? Maybe just to accumulate more but it could be more sinister, even interests like ETH wanting to kill competition?

All I know is it's definitely there and people should take advantage of it and buy the crap out of the dumps. we need to get on another exchange with decent vol.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1002
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