Topic: Unreasonable Account Banning, Help Please. - page 2. (Read 3675 times)

They'll get over it.

Sometimes they try sell their post on a popular coin as an advertisement. Not sure how successful they are though.

What do you mean by it promotes community? 

I found the weird time requirement to make your first post on here annoying. Almost to the extent I'd rather have discussions elsewhere.  Once I was past that, I'm all for the signatures though.  They promote community etc.

What about all those "reserved" posts.  Ban those guys.  Some shitcoin and 1/2 a dozen guys reserving the first page.  For what ?

 It is easy to go through a thread like that and just clean house.  Look at "ANN RES" for an example of this.

I find it ridiculous when users have only been here for a month or two and they are already hitting 2000-3000 posts. I know we had a lot of spammers before the whole sig thing. But, the way they are doing it now paying per post it seems it's getting worse. Spammers are trying to hide it too. They are posting in threads which they wouldn't be interested in and don't add any value to the subject in matter. I have seen the off topic section for example be flooded with one persons name commenting on every thread. Surely, they haven't got anything to add for every single thread posted here at the forum, it's not so much they're posts are constructive because anyone can sting a few sentences together.

I know rules are not black and white, it's just that I fear that many people will complain a lot if you prevent them from receiving their sig money
And I don't think moderators will be wrong often, but I do think that some will cry about how you're censoring them and that full white or full black rules make censorship not credible
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong though

Not sure it would be a bad thing

Also, out of curiosity, do you keep an eye on users with posts count/activity>10 (or 20 or even more)? I think that could help catching some spammers

Well thats kind of the thought. I think it would be preferential to allow everyone to continue doing what they are doing, and just hit the spammers harder. The problem with that is how much additional oversight it could take, which we may or may not be able to provide.

The majority of the forum rules are not black and white. They are really up to judgement by the moderator of the board. This however isn't really a problem, first because its always been this way, and second because in order for any more damage than a deleted post or two to occur, it is discussed, evidence is compiled, and appropriate actions are made by multiple parties. Mistakes are made from time to time, however with how the system is laid out, getting an unwarranted ban or worse is almost unheard of. You have to try really hard on this forum to get banned, if you haven't been warned more than a handful of times before being banned for anything other than posting malware or very obvious spamming, chances are, you aren't going to get banned if you make a bad decision and post a few things you shouldn't, you will end up with a warning.

Can moderators be an accurate judge of paid advertising spamming vs regular spamming is the question. If you are spamming because you are getting paid to, that is more severe than letting your emotions get the better of you, and spamming a few posts. If we can't tell the difference easily, then cracking down on paid advertising spammers won't work, and more drastic measures would be taken, such as not allowing paid advertising in the first place.

The goal here is to allow as much freedom as possible without letting those freedoms disrupt others.

SaltySpitoon, I know that what users say won't change much your (mods) decision but I don't think being more strict would help
This will only bring more dispute, more unhappy users and more work for mods
I think that moderation rules should be as manichean as possible: either something is allowed or it's not

Even though it's late IMO, it's good to see mods about to take decisions about this problem

... says the person with the 22 point red font paid advertisement in their sig.

I suggest the forums just disallow paid signature schemes altogether.

It clutters the place up too much IMO and promotes posts with little substance.

It's good to hear that you are looking to do something about this. I think the only way to deal with this is too try being more strict on spammers first, if it doesn't work within a certain period of time then banning them is the only option.

The staff already have enough to do without the extra work load of dealing with hundreds of spammers. So I can see the current work force struggling to keep it under control and eventually the paid signatures will have to get banned.

@mods:
Allowing per-post rewards for sig ads encourages spamming.
Allowing multiple accounts helps scammers.
Allowing selling of accounts - see above.
Threads like this are the result of an ill-defined & inconsistent forum policy.

I agree, as long as people don't spam I don't see the a problem and I don't think they should be banned as they do help me out and others, I know people find the signatures annoying but they can always hide them. If people just reported the ones that spammed they got banned without warning would be something

Aww, well that warms my heart haha. It'd be such a shame for these deals to get banned. As I and others have mentioned, I think policing them and making the rules stricter would cut down spam and I'd be more than happy to help out with that in any way. These deals are a great way for newbs to get a bit of Bitcoin and for those who are willing to put in a bit of extra work can actually get a decent amount of coin. I hope some workaround or compromise can be achieved without an outright ban.

IMO, ban the paid sig ads. It's the answer to all our problems.

We are currently thinking about what needs to be done, we have been discussing it since the latest influx of paid advertising spammers. The question is, do we just get more strict on spammers, or do we go as far as to disallow paid advertising, or even remove signatures.

Hopefully just having more defined rules and being more strict on spammers will be enough, however no one has come to a decision on anything, those are just ideas that are being tossed around.


When I became a Global Mod, the other Global mods were teaching me standard banhammer protocol, we used you for example hilariousandco. You were what we defined as being OK despite the huge post volume.

You were spamming for both of them I'm glad the mods are cracking down on it.

 Try and wrap your head around the fact that you are more than likely gaming the forums for your own monetary gain. That's probably why you got banned.

 Let me spell it out for you. Having one account advertising for Primedice, and another account advertising for coinrollit, is probably what got your account banned.

Well I fall into that category but I don't spam or post rubbish. Obviously there's always going to people who abuse the system and ruin it for everyone else, but if spammers are dealt with appropriately I can't see it being much of a problem. I actually see the most spam/crap and trolling from people who don't even have sig deals.

I honestly think the staff need to seriously think about what they are going to allow. Because, I've seen people with 50 odd activity and 2000-2500 posts. It's getting ridiculous. Before, it wasn't so bad but it seems it's ust getting out of hand I don't know if it's because they have switched to pay per post or not.

Is this your account: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hieroglyph-101576

Was you maybe using TOR or posting from several other accounts?