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Topic: [UNRESPONSIVE POOL OPERATOR] 50BTC.com - page 21. (Read 257895 times)

legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1008
January 10, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
Still waiting On my 0.04 and change Btc...
jr. member
Activity: 58
Merit: 1
January 10, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
What they are doing is literally robbery and they should be dragged to court.

Good luck with that... especially when your lawyer will ask you about the ToS.

This doesn't mean that it's okay that they don't refund the money, I lost about 1 BTC myself from my account so obviously I'm not happy with it. But the most efficient way not to get ****ed again is just to set the auto payout threshold as low as reasonable (i.e. at least once every day).

A lawyer will say you, that the TOS are not lawful.
They will also ask you if the TOS were published to the Date when registered. And every Screenshot says "no".
In german rights: you have to announce every change of a TOS and send every customer an e-mail or a mail by postial services. The customer got now a 4 week "Sonderkündigungsrecht". When the customer say nothing the new TOS will become lawful.

So their first mistake: They didn't announce the ToS so there will be no ToS.
Second mistake: German webserver, German Translation, so designed for german customers --> german law (really i am not kidding, but it's only useful for my case (if you are not germans))
third mistake: no ToS on the date i registered (some screenshot as evidence)
fourth mistkae: no communication, no recover of the funds...

any court or any lawyer would confirm what i say.
wayback machine will be able to confirm that the ToS was not there on the day of registration as well.
hero member
Activity: 507
Merit: 500
January 10, 2014, 07:48:38 PM
With out getting too far in to what 50BTC has said to me in PM.

I am upset that INSTEAD OF MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT, OR FACING THE COMMUNITY, They are sneaking around and only sending PM to those that are the loudest complains.


Shame on you 50BTC.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
January 10, 2014, 12:55:14 PM

2. Aaaaand of course people who are lying about their balances: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4134228 & https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4181455
Look-a-like guys who are THE MOST active people in this thread… some weird feeling is not leaving me when I read their posts

Once again and last time i will explain it:

First of all i am everything but not a liar.
Second i am only able to say: What i've got before the attacks, during the attacks and now after reset. And i am only able to say what my mining hardware is.
third, yes i am one of the most active persons in this thread. But are you able to imagine why? Because they stole about 20 000 € (~45 BTC which they already confirmed in this thread!!) from me. sorry if someone only steals 100 € from me i will try to catch him. We in germany say: "Aus Prinzip!"

Then, nothing to say against your "hope" points. Maybe they got a new design but really no new HTML-Code (from Scetch) at all. There are many similar parts (too many to say all new...).
Why is bitmine.ch not respinding to ALL their customers? There are many customers which have paid but didn't receive anything. 50btc already in October said "all payments were redirected to bitmine".
sorry, for that but your "hope" points are in parts not this kind of hope points.

With one point you are right: They actually pay, ACTUALLY MINED Coins with coins which were mined in the PAST.  And this is for me fraud. Because this coins they are actually pay to the miners are normally "blackcoins" which they have to pay back to the miners which mined in the past. I hope you know what i'm going to say.
For me it looks like that your story is quite strange. Firstly you claimed to owe mystical 70BTC, than agreed that you had 45BTC. What’s next, 20BTC?

HTML-code is COMPLETELY different. You don’t have to be a professional to notice that code was changed from BEM to Bootstrap.
As for the technical changes, on the old pool system job id were integer and now it’s a guid.

The fact is that they are still working is something. If they wanted to steal all balances, they would just close the service and disappear. Now everything is working, including payouts.

All this “mystery” with the balance looks like a big lie to me… maybe I am wrong and you’re just a victim, but your shady 70 BTC story won’t get you any more trust. If you lied (or whatever you call it) about the balance (the pool already proved it and you forgot about your “70” BTC in a blink of an eye) why they should believe you about your mining equipment? Seems like you just want to make some profit on this story! I won’t surprise if your real balance is near 0.

What did someone Pay You to Write this stuff?

Website Showed me 71 btc, they calculated 45 btc so i will Take the 45 btc before gering nothing. That's number 1. Number 2: I don't have to proof anything. I am able to take pictures and all evidence what I've got and send them to the 50btc crew, no problem but you are not in the position to say I am a liar. I thing you have to learn reading a text before judging. If you read interested and concentrated you may get the clue.
And last thing: I would never involve any govs or the cops if I am an liar. That's against the law (Falsche Verdächtigung, Verleumdnung). Use you translater for it! I am Fed up of this Situation, i am an adult Humen and Anyone is Able to speak and find a Solution with me, but this will Never Happen, Thats why i Went to the govs!
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
January 10, 2014, 10:02:02 AM

2. Aaaaand of course people who are lying about their balances: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4134228 & https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4181455
Look-a-like guys who are THE MOST active people in this thread… some weird feeling is not leaving me when I read their posts

Once again and last time i will explain it:

First of all i am everything but not a liar.
Second i am only able to say: What i've got before the attacks, during the attacks and now after reset. And i am only able to say what my mining hardware is.
third, yes i am one of the most active persons in this thread. But are you able to imagine why? Because they stole about 20 000 € (~45 BTC which they already confirmed in this thread!!) from me. sorry if someone only steals 100 € from me i will try to catch him. We in germany say: "Aus Prinzip!"

Then, nothing to say against your "hope" points. Maybe they got a new design but really no new HTML-Code (from Scetch) at all. There are many similar parts (too many to say all new...).
Why is bitmine.ch not respinding to ALL their customers? There are many customers which have paid but didn't receive anything. 50btc already in October said "all payments were redirected to bitmine".
sorry, for that but your "hope" points are in parts not this kind of hope points.

With one point you are right: They actually pay, ACTUALLY MINED Coins with coins which were mined in the PAST.  And this is for me fraud. Because this coins they are actually pay to the miners are normally "blackcoins" which they have to pay back to the miners which mined in the past. I hope you know what i'm going to say.
For me it looks like that your story is quite strange. Firstly you claimed to owe mystical 70BTC, than agreed that you had 45BTC. What’s next, 20BTC?

HTML-code is COMPLETELY different. You don’t have to be a professional to notice that code was changed from BEM to Bootstrap.
As for the technical changes, on the old pool system job id were integer and now it’s a guid.

The fact is that they are still working is something. If they wanted to steal all balances, they would just close the service and disappear. Now everything is working, including payouts.

All this “mystery” with the balance looks like a big lie to me… maybe I am wrong and you’re just a victim, but your shady 70 BTC story won’t get you any more trust. If you lied (or whatever you call it) about the balance (the pool already proved it and you forgot about your “70” BTC in a blink of an eye) why they should believe you about your mining equipment? Seems like you just want to make some profit on this story! I won’t surprise if your real balance is near 0.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
January 10, 2014, 08:25:02 AM
Because it was all a lie that is why, I have tracked and traced the wallets they were using at the time of the attack and they only show coins going in to the wallets and coins being moved to other wallet addresses they control they dont show any coins going to outside of their control wallet addresses


Remember they Stopped all outgoing transactions ( payments to people ) before this so called "hack" even happened
hero member
Activity: 682
Merit: 500
January 10, 2014, 03:43:59 AM
What I really don't understand is why they don't show us the wallets they were using at the time. That would clearly show all of their (our) btc leaving the wallets at the time of the so called attack. Why are they showing absolutely zero proof of any kind of attack/robbery?!?!
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
January 09, 2014, 05:00:37 PM

2. Aaaaand of course people who are lying about their balances: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4134228 & https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4181455
Look-a-like guys who are THE MOST active people in this thread… some weird feeling is not leaving me when I read their posts

Once again and last time i will explain it:

First of all i am everything but not a liar.
Second i am only able to say: What i've got before the attacks, during the attacks and now after reset. And i am only able to say what my mining hardware is.
third, yes i am one of the most active persons in this thread. But are you able to imagine why? Because they stole about 20 000 € (~45 BTC which they already confirmed in this thread!!) from me. sorry if someone only steals 100 € from me i will try to catch him. We in germany say: "Aus Prinzip!"

Then, nothing to say against your "hope" points. Maybe they got a new design but really no new HTML-Code (from Scetch) at all. There are many similar parts (too many to say all new...).
Why is bitmine.ch not respinding to ALL their customers? There are many customers which have paid but didn't receive anything. 50btc already in October said "all payments were redirected to bitmine".
sorry, for that but your "hope" points are in parts not this kind of hope points.

With one point you are right: They actually pay, ACTUALLY MINED Coins with coins which were mined in the PAST.  And this is for me fraud. Because this coins they are actually pay to the miners are normally "blackcoins" which they have to pay back to the miners which mined in the past. I hope you know what i'm going to say.
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
January 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PM
Looks like this thread is in “post only if you’re hater” mode Cheesy

Some hope:
1. ASIC shop seems okay, bitmine themselves confirmed me that they received the payment
2. Payouts are currently working - tested, not only by myself
3. They really have released new pool software after the attack. I checked the html code and the stratum protocol mining job id and etc. It seems they do what they say in the end.
4. If their goal was to run they would’ve done it long ago with ASIC shop coins, which as I know is a really huge amount

Paranoid staff:
1. They were amongst top 3 major pools in September, so someone could attack them with DDOS and other shit to eliminate the competitor
2. Aaaaand of course people who are lying about their balances: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4134228 & https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4181455
Look-a-like guys who are THE MOST active people in this thread… some weird feeling is not leaving me when I read their posts
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
January 09, 2014, 12:24:31 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4180209

There you can find everything You Need.

Ms. Savoskina

Don't try to get us silence, just Pay the btc you owe us!

For my example 47 btc which they calculated in this Thread!

If you NOW Start paying all People Out which have lost their bitcoin btw which you deleted there will be ways to stop the governments investigating against you!

You now got 24 hours to Start paying!
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
January 09, 2014, 12:14:38 PM
Can you do share owner? I had here 7 BTC. New site do not show old shares and payouts, so my feel is they deleted it. Do not think they got hacked, just stole BTC because price was in rise. Same happened with Czech exchange Bitcash.cz and all have now police. Think there will judgement too.
hero member
Activity: 507
Merit: 500
January 09, 2014, 08:06:03 AM
FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY.

50BTC send me a PM to try to silence me on the fourm after I've caused them to be listed so negitive.

Warning to: Kristina (owner of 50BTC)

We know who you are, and where you are.

Just give us the BTC owe and cut your losses
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
January 08, 2014, 04:21:37 AM
And this sort of scam/fraud pools is the reason why governments will control bitcoin.

Dear Owners and Operators of 50btc.com

Thanks for this scam/fraud against your customers! I really hope you will loose breath with all the coins scammed!
I also hope that govs will find you, catch you, get you in prison where you will pay for what you've done!


PS: use this tool to mark them finally as scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=48525
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1035
January 08, 2014, 03:18:11 AM
I just wrote off my loss and left a trust warning, I guess it's the best option for everyone who got scammed Undecided
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Co-Owner Of DCMCo-Op Mining Farm at 3.5 th/s
January 07, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
no one was stupid, People left funds on the site because by the time that some had balances big enough to withdraw it was to late and others like my self i withdrew all personal funds and the only funds that were left were business related funds that i was not touching till i was gonna send them where they were supposed to go but guess what when the time came to send them they claimed they were hacked and even tho i requested them they posted the transaction as " Processing " and what do ya know they are doing the same now with all new requests for Payouts
full member
Activity: 310
Merit: 100
January 07, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
yeah i have your bitcoins, and you are never having them backzzzz!  Roll Eyes

its pretty obvious that you will never see you btc again, the last few pages clearly say that.

wipe the tears from your keyboard and move on and make it a lesson to be learnt to not leave stupid amount of bitcoins in the hand of the pool operators  Kiss
hero member
Activity: 507
Merit: 500
January 07, 2014, 03:24:47 PM
can someone not just lock this topic  Roll Eyes

Are you supporting 50BTCs theft?

They need to be tagged Scammers and have their pools marked as such, Criminals like this ONLY harm our community.
full member
Activity: 310
Merit: 100
January 07, 2014, 02:50:51 PM
can someone not just lock this topic  Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 76
Merit: 10
January 07, 2014, 05:55:49 AM
50BTC can you please reply to me?Huh
I have sent you numerous support tickets, emails and still no reply???
Please reply?? Where is my 15BTC???

Check my screen I posted above. My balance from 2011 stolen by 50btc.com too Sad And their support never replying.
And result is: no one penny received from 50btc.com and now they have "branded new website" with clear history.

Also funny post here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4266526

It's like 50btc told there "maybe we will pay. but only if we will want and only where we will want" lol
member
Activity: 76
Merit: 10
January 07, 2014, 05:40:05 AM
Is it possible to prove via blockchain that they owe me 2 BTC I mined? It's very sad that they are "stolen" Sad

You could not track via blockchain what you mined using pool: when you mining on pool, all earnings coming directly into the pool's wallet.
So, you can only track how much their pool earn (if you know their pool wallet address or addresses they used during all history)

Then you will receive if admin will send your earnings to you.
Or system will do it automatically (again - if admin will enable it)

And again: sure if admin is a good and trusty person.
For a sample, some fake person working as pool admin may just clear your earnings from pool database and fetch it to his wallet.
Then tell "that person does not sit on website all the time to monitor earnings why to pay him".
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