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legendary
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May 17, 2016, 09:44:26 AM
I like Trump

Was it his support of Democrats up until 2008 and his vote for Obama that got you to like him? Or his conservative rhetoric up until he was the defacto Republican nominee? Or is it his higher taxes, single payer health care talk after he was chosen?

That more or less matches my own dispositions in those timeframes.  I remember casting a vote for Obama but only because even back then I was very strongly #NeverHillary and knew nothing about Obama himself.  I probably did or would have cast a vote for Obama in the general because the alternative was Crazy Johnny (later known as 'Jihad Johnny'.)

I may have given up on the potential for single-payer to work by that time, but I did support it at one point because it provides the best leverage on a theoretical basis among other more broad benefits.  At the time I did not recognize that the health care system was being broken on purpose for nefarious reasons and by those who wanted universal care to further ratchet up their game.  By the time Obamacare rolled around I favored a public option specifically to help the right people have leverage in 'making the deals'.  States may not be the best allies of 'the people', but they don't print their own money so they have at least some reason to try to control costs.

I believe in 'higher taxes' for groups who have used their influence to insert loopholes into the tax codes and who leverage these loopholes.  Always have, and I believe that if Trump is at his core a decent person then he probably would and did as well.

I don't have anything against people who 'flip-flop'.  I do it myself.  I do have something against those who will not flip-flop even when new information comes in.  They either are not exposing themselves to it or are to fossilized (or bought off) to take it in.  Generally I find this inflexibility to be the biggest problem with the hard-core Libertarian types.

legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
May 17, 2016, 04:10:32 AM
I like Trump

Was it his support of Democrats up until 2008 and his vote for Obama that got you to like him? Or his conservative rhetoric up until he was the defacto Republican nominee? Or is it his higher taxes, single payer health care talk after he was chosen?
full member
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May 17, 2016, 03:57:22 AM
I like Trump
legendary
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May 17, 2016, 02:49:41 AM
....people believe him because he's a show man, he knows what to say, what most of the people want to hear and when things need to be said.....

You mean, like Obama?

I mean yes they are all the same in the end: the usually play in the same teams behind the scenes. But I don't know why this guy troubles me more than any other guy.

One possible answer is that the others hide their psychotic narcissism with a smiley faced false front and Trump doesn't.  Some people would find this revolting and not see the underlying similarity.

I wonder if a lot of people literally vote for someone "they like."

But it seems if that were so the same people that voted for Obama, would never, ever vote for Hillary.

Exactly! That is the point of it all!
Trump is an "organic" true crazy man: it seems he's not acting at all, he's like that, naturally, organically.
While the other one, as you pointed out, is simply and truly fake.

Once I saw a documentary http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/the-prime-minister-and-the-press/introduction/?p=913 about Berlusconi, former Italian Prime Minister.
It seems that people voted for him because they "liked" him.
legendary
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May 16, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?

No.

BOTH conventions will be contested, IMO.

Get some popcorn.

Prepare for riots.
legendary
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May 16, 2016, 08:56:09 PM


 Smiley


Looks like his wall failed from ED!!!!

Electoral Dysfunction.

 Grin
legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 08:36:50 PM






It may be a long road ahead to the final days, but the walk will be interesting.


... And beautiful.


legendary
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May 16, 2016, 07:15:49 PM






It may be a long road ahead to the final days, but the walk will be interesting.
legendary
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May 16, 2016, 06:19:14 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?


All I know is no one cares about your election...

 Smiley




Of course! We don't have the habits of involving ourselves in each and every war around the world ^^


Or crying for help every time you kill each other in europe...




Well after seeing what you asked for your help, it's clearly not genuine help. And we shouldn't have accepted it xD


We agree TRUMP will be good, both for the US and europe...

 Smiley




Perhaps good for the U.S., but not necessarily good for the American people.    Cool
legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 05:47:25 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?


All I know is no one cares about your election...

 Smiley




Of course! We don't have the habits of involving ourselves in each and every war around the world ^^


Or crying for help every time you kill each other in europe...




Well after seeing what you asked for your help, it's clearly not genuine help. And we shouldn't have accepted it xD


We agree TRUMP will be good, both for the US and europe...

 Smiley


legendary
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May 16, 2016, 05:32:43 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?


All I know is no one cares about your election...

 Smiley




Of course! We don't have the habits of involving ourselves in each and every war around the world ^^


Or crying for help every time you kill each other in europe...




Well after seeing what you asked for your help, it's clearly not genuine help. And we shouldn't have accepted it xD
legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?


All I know is no one cares about your election...

 Smiley




Of course! We don't have the habits of involving ourselves in each and every war around the world ^^


Or crying for help every time you kill each other in europe...


legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
May 16, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?


All I know is no one cares about your election...

 Smiley




Of course! We don't have the habits of involving ourselves in each and every war around the world ^^
legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 05:12:35 PM





legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?


All I know is no one cares about your election...

 Smiley

legendary
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Merit: 1251
May 16, 2016, 03:09:25 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...




Well it's maybe coming but when? Your elections are so fuck ingredients long!!!! They take around a year no?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 03:02:59 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!


It is coming... Meanwhile have a coffee and a makrout el louz while waiting...


legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
May 16, 2016, 02:54:42 PM
Those American elections seem to take just so loooooong. ...

I feel like we're talking about that for a year or two! Are we done yet? At least the nominates campaign is over no?


I would feel the same as you if I knew bernie was dead meat...


 Cheesy




Meh? Why would I car for the old bernie ?
I'm just waiting for the Trump train to get to the finish line!
legendary
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Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 11:30:12 AM



Centrist Democrats: We can work with President Trump



As Democrats portray Donald Trump as a dangerous leader for his party, most of them barely acknowledge he could be president. But some centrist Democrats say they’re ready and willing to work with the business mogul should he defeat their party’s nominee.

“The people will have a chance to vote. If Donald Trump is elected president there will be a great opportunity to sit down and have a conversation about what that agenda looks like,” explained Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), who has long backed Hillary Clinton. “If he’s president, we’re going to have disagreement. But we’d better all figure out how to come up with an agenda for the American people.”


Getting ready for a potential Trump presidency in their home states may just be good politics for moderate senators such as Heitkamp, Jon Tester of Montana and West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. They’ll be top targets for Republicans in 2018, a midterm year that could favor the GOP if recent trends of lower turnouts in nonpresidential elections continue. And it’s a good bet that they’ll need Trump voters to keep their jobs.

Trump should easily win North Dakota and neighboring Montana this fall if past is prologue: Montana went to Bill Clinton in 1992, while North Dakota hasn’t gone Democratic since 1964. He’ll also certainly win West Virginia and be favored to win Missouri as well: Both states have been in the GOP column since 2000.

For Democrats in those states, ignoring Trump’s political success, and by extension his supporters, would be a risky move. So some Democrats say they can see some opportunities for working together during a hypothetical Trump presidency, given that the Republican front-runner has based his campaign on being a deal maker — unlike any other prominent GOP candidate this cycle.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-moderate-democrats-223168


legendary
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minds.com/Wilikon
May 16, 2016, 10:59:25 AM
Which one is your favorite? And no, you cannot vote for me...

 Smiley

How would I know which is my favorite until I've had a deep meaningful discussion with each one of them to determine their inner beauty?

I'd bang them all though.

Did you not see the girl in the upper-left corner symbolizing a BJ?
... She is obviously looking for her *next* paid modeling job, Trump doesn't pay his models as much as the porn industry  Shocked



 


What a Vivid imagination you have. I only see a girl with her fist up, maybe wanting to make a thumb up milliseconds before the snapshot..?

I don't know her, so I would not dare calling her a whore without proofs.

But Harpy clinton on the other hand...
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/hillary-clinton-whore-remark-221931

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